RE: CCIE - I still don't know
Ya know, I used to work at EDS. One day, a guy sent a message to a distribution list rather than to the specific person that they meant to. It was some sales guy, so immediately, people start sending these angry "don't spam me, remove me from your list..." messages in reply. The problem is, they would hit reply all (like I just did) rather than simply reply. As the messages began to mount up, supposedly really smart EDSers started trying to educate the ignorant masses of EDSers by replying all to tell them not to reply all. Of course, their voice was lost in the wilderness of reply all messages. The result? For two days, the mail servers were constantly crashing and coming back up only to crash again Brian -Original Message- From: Shen, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:27 PM To: 'Betsy Brennan' Cc: Ietf@Ietf. Org Subject: RE: CCIE - I still don't know Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert (CCIE) OK! NO more CCIE! Peter Shen Canon Information System -Original Message- From: Betsy Brennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 2:20 PM To: Ietf@Ietf. Org Subject: Re: CCIE - I still don't know But what is a CCIE?
Re: CCIE
Man, I wish I had 8 megs of RAM ;-) Regards, Kurt Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ROW Software and Web Design http://www.rowsw.com - Original Message - From: "Book, Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Kurt Weber'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Kurt, Just an aside. Perhaps, onerous as the thought may be, it's time to upgrade from your '286 w/8MB of RAM and 20 MB harddrive. :-)But your point is well taken. There's been far too little on-topic conversations on this mailing list. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Kurt Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:08 PM To: Kevin Lahey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE OK...what was the point of that message? It took me 7 minutes to download on a 56k modem. Not all of us have 45-megabit connections. If you want to send it to him, fine, but please don't send that to everyone else. It crashed my entire system five times just because it ran out of memory. Regards, Kurt Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ROW Software and Web Design http://www.rowsw.com
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*Looking at my new AlphaServer GS320,32 CPU'S 256 GB ECC RAM* :-) -Original Message- From: Kurt Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 3:58 PM To: Book, Robert Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Man, I wish I had 8 megs of RAM ;-) Regards, Kurt Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ROW Software and Web Design http://www.rowsw.com - Original Message - From: "Book, Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Kurt Weber'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: RE: CCIE Kurt, Just an aside. Perhaps, onerous as the thought may be, it's time to upgrade from your '286 w/8MB of RAM and 20 MB harddrive. :-)But your point is well taken. There's been far too little on-topic conversations on this mailing list. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Kurt Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:08 PM To: Kevin Lahey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE OK...what was the point of that message? It took me 7 minutes to download on a 56k modem. Not all of us have 45-megabit connections. If you want to send it to him, fine, but please don't send that to everyone else. It crashed my entire system five times just because it ran out of memory. Regards, Kurt Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] ROW Software and Web Design http://www.rowsw.com
CCIE
Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. Anyone interested please email me back and I will forward your details to HR. Many thanks Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 +44 1256 761925 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company. BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Paton;Mark.;J.S;; FN:Mark. J.S Paton ORG:Mnsl;Consultancy TITLE:Network Design / Support TEL;WORK;VOICE:+44 0585 649051 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+44 (0585) 649051 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;Basingstoke;Willow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road;Mattingley;Hampshire;RG27 8JU;= United Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Basingstoke=0D=0AWillow Cottage=0D=0AReading Road=0D=0AMattingley, Hampshire= RG27 8JU=0D=0AUnited Kingdom URL: URL:http://www.mnsl.org EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:19990422T133901Z END:VCARD
AW: CCIE
Forgive this spam again: I have got a large position of high quality wooden coffins, and anyone recently died should contact for an immedate delivery (having in mind the high summer temperature!). To be honest, is there no way to prevent all the subscribers of this list from become overloaded with such rubbish? Probably no technical possibility. Eventualy by overloading the capacity of the originating computer by addressing hundreds of mails to it? I for myself would appreciate if all subscriber agree not to answer such mails, just to ignore and delete them without having read. Reinhold -- Von: mark.paton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2000 15:25 An: Ietf@Ietf. Org Betreff: CCIE Datei: Mark. J.S Paton.vcf Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. Anyone interested please email me back and I will forward your details to HR. Many thanks Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 +44 1256 761925 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company.
RE: CCIE
Cedar or Oak? I'd like the GT model please -Michael B. Bellopede [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Feigel Reinhold (MC-AC/WES1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:18 PM To: Ietf@Ietf. Org; 'mark.paton' Subject: AW: CCIE Forgive this spam again: I have got a large position of high quality wooden coffins, and anyone recently died should contact for an immedate delivery (having in mind the high summer temperature!). To be honest, is there no way to prevent all the subscribers of this list from become overloaded with such rubbish? Probably no technical possibility. Eventualy by overloading the capacity of the originating computer by addressing hundreds of mails to it? I for myself would appreciate if all subscriber agree not to answer such mails, just to ignore and delete them without having read. Reinhold -- Von: mark.paton[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2000 15:25 An: Ietf@Ietf. Org Betreff: CCIE Datei: Mark. J.S Paton.vcf Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. Anyone interested please email me back and I will forward your details to HR. Many thanks Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 +44 1256 761925 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company.
Re: CCIE
Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. i can not find an rfc for "CCIE." what is one, some kind of can opener? randy
RE: CCIE
can opener, cork screw, knive, fork, spoon, etc. a swiss army kind of thing hig -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:55 AM To: mark.paton Cc: Ietf@Ietf. Org Subject: Re: CCIE Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. i can not find an rfc for "CCIE." what is one, some kind of can opener? randy
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Randy Bush wrote: i can not find an rfc for "CCIE." what is one, some kind of can opener? Yes, exactly: a Can Consumable Ingredients Extractor. -- /===\ |John Stracke| http://www.ecal.com |My opinions are my own. | |Chief Scientist |==| |eCal Corp. |"I only wish I had time to get married myself,| |[EMAIL PROTECTED]|as I've told m'wife many's the time." | \===/
RE: CCIE
I don't think this is a standard yet, perhaps we should start a WG. -Michael B. Bellopede [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:12 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: mark.paton; Ietf@Ietf. Org Subject: Re: CCIE On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:55:09 MDT, Randy Bush said: Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. i can not find an rfc for "CCIE." what is one, some kind of can opener? Given the locations, it must be some I18N standard. ;) -- Valdis Kletnieks Operating Systems Analyst Virginia Tech
RE: CCIE
Forgive this spam; I've got a lot of spam in the can and candles left over from Y2K preparation in my basement. Cases and cases, including the ever popular 'food' flavored spam. Also, I have two generators and 20,000 boxes of ammunition. These would make a nice addition to the wooden coffins advertised below. Thanks. /m. -Original Message- From: Feigel Reinhold (MC-AC/WES1) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 8:18 AM To: Ietf@Ietf. Org; 'mark.paton' Subject: AW: CCIE Forgive this spam again: I have got a large position of high quality wooden coffins, and anyone recently died should contact for an immedate delivery (having in mind the high summer temperature!).
Re: CCIE
With messages like these you are creating "sub-spamming". Someone sends a message like "We are looking for CCIE's". And then several users, instead of ignoring the message, start telling jokes almost "ad eternum". Is this right ? You are not stopping the "spam", you are continuing the "spamming" (with a new mutation)... For this kind of talk maybe IEFT should create a discussion group - "alt.comp.ietf.jokes-about.spamming". or "alt.comp.ietf.ccie-jokes". Best regards, Nuno Cristelo - Original Message - From: "John Stracke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Ietf@Ietf. Org" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:43 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Randy Bush wrote: i can not find an rfc for "CCIE." what is one, some kind of can opener? Yes, exactly: a Can Consumable Ingredients Extractor. -- /===\ |John Stracke| http://www.ecal.com |My opinions are my own. | |Chief Scientist |==| |eCal Corp. |"I only wish I had time to get married myself,| |[EMAIL PROTECTED]|as I've told m'wife many's the time." | \===/
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Folks I am not trying to solve the World's problems today but - how about we talk about SOMETHING instead of continuing with a thread about - well you get the idea. Lillian Komlossy || Site Manager || http://www.dmnews.com || http://www.imarketingnews.com || 212 925-7300 ext. 232 || mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: mark.paton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:26 AM To: Ietf@Ietf. Org Subject: CCIE Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. Anyone interested please email me back and I will forward your details to HR. Many thanks Regards Mark Paton CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng Mercury Network Systems Limited +44 585 649051 +44 1256 761925 http://www.mnsl.org "Mercury Network Systems - The Unstoppable Force" This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information if you are not, or suspect that you are not, the named addressee or the person responsible for delivering the message to the named addressee, please telephone us immediately. Please note that we cannot guarantee that this message or any attachment is virus free or has not been intercepted and amended. The views of the author may not necessarily reflect those of the Company.
Re: CCIE
Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. i can not find an rfc for "CCIE." what is one, some kind of can opener? "Carbon Copy Internet Explorer", from the "New Corporation(s)." They'll I-D on or about 04/01/01, after securing the market. Power of 2 and all that, neh? Eric
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"Kevin Lahey" writes In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "mark.paton" writes: Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. Anyone interested please email me back and I will forward your details to HR. This is an inappropriate message for this mailing list. If you'd like to see the kinds of messages that are appropriate, here's the archive of traffic for the last month: Although not as inappropriate as my reply. I will fully deserve the ration of crap that will no doubt rain down on me for being stupid enough to send this to *anyone* in the first place, let alone to the entire IETF list. My apologies. Kevin Lahey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "mark.paton" writes: Forgive this spam, but I am looking for 7 CCIE's for locations in London, Silicon Valley, California and Tokyo. Anyone interested please email me back and I will forward your details to HR. This is an inappropriate message for this mailing list. If you'd like to see the kinds of messages that are appropriate, here's the archive of traffic for the last month: From owner-ietf-outbound Mon May 1 04:51:53 2000 Received: by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) id EAA22260 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 1 May 2000 04:50:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp (necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp [131.112.32.132]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA22234 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 1 May 2000 04:44:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Masataka Ohta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp (8.6.11/TM2.1) id RAA11363; Mon, 1 May 2000 17:42:00 +0900 Subject: Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from "vinton g. cerf" at "Apr 30, 2000 06:20:48 am" To: "vinton g. cerf" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:42:00 +0859 () CC: Matt Holdrege [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vint; that's right - they use iMODE on the DOCOMO mobiles. iMODE and WAP seem to have that in common: a non-IP radio link protocol and an application gateway. Of course, this limits the applications to those that can be "translated" in the gateway, while an end to end system (such as the Ricochet from Metricom) would allow essentially any application on an Internet server to interact directly with the mobile device because the gateway would merely be an IP level device, possibly with NAT functionality. With a JAVA interpreter or other similar capability in the mobile, one could imagine considerable competition for development of new applications. As it stands, only the applications NTT chooses to implement in the translating gateway are accessible. An interesting thing is that iMODE is so successful that DOCOMO is suffering from the usual problems (lack of scalability and robustness) caused by violating the end to end principle. iMODE is now infamous for its frequent service interruption. DOCOMO users are refunded for the interruption. Since HTTP is one of the "applications" served, there is still a lot of room for competition, I suppose. To make the competition fair, the important questions are: Is it fair if providers using iMODE or WAP are advertised to be ISPs? Is it fair if providers using NAT are advertised to be ISPs? My answer to both questions is No, while they may be Internet Service Access Providers and NAT users may be IP Service Providers, they don't provide Internet service and are no ISPs. Any oppositions? Masataka Ohta From owner-ietf-outbound Mon May 1 07:01:30 2000 Received: by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) id HAA23645 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk (bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.5.31]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id GAA23594 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 1 May 2000 06:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:55:51 +0100 To: Masataka Ohta [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: "vinton g. cerf" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matt Holdrege [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Narten [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 2000 17:42:00 +0859." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:55:50 +0100 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jon Crowcroft [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Masataka Ohta ty ped: Is it fair if providers using iMODE or WAP are advertised to be ISPs? Is it fair if providers using NAT are advertised to be ISPs? My answer to both questions is No, while they may be Internet Service Access Providers and NAT users may be IP Service Providers, they don't provide Internet service and are no ISPs. i agree: in the UK, i would say that someone claiming internet access via WAP would be in breach of the trades description act. Any oppositions? not from here (for wap - i dont know enough about iMODE to comment) Masataka Ohta cheers jon From owner-ietf-outbound Mon May 1 12:51:30 2000 Received: by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) id MAA29994 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 1 May 2000 12:50:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp (necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp [131.112.32.132]) by
Re: CCIE - I still don't know
But what is a CCIE?
RE: CCIE - I still don't know
Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert (CCIE) OK! NO more CCIE! Peter Shen Canon Information System -Original Message- From: Betsy Brennan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 2:20 PM To: Ietf@Ietf. Org Subject: Re: CCIE - I still don't know But what is a CCIE?
Re: CCIE - I still don't know
Using.. http://www.onelook.com/ ..and subsequently.. BABEL: A Glossary of Computer Oriented Abbreviations and Acronyms http://www.geocities.com/ikind_babel/babel/babel.html ..we see.. CCIE Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert [cisco] JeffH
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Wow, look at what all the top network professionals/researchers in the world are upto!? Networking is happening or what. Just when one thought we had seen the last of the CCIEs there comes another one. If a spam on CCIE draws the interest of the folks subscribing to ietf, then being a grad student I need to follow the steps of the people I aspire to be. So here we go, one more to the list. If anyone else has been holding back from sending email for a long while now, showing some consideration to the people on the list, please do not do so. You can get amazing relief by contributing to the list and getting to feel one among them. Lets build the networks for the future - that can take all the spam. Mur TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF MY LIFE Murali K Viswanathan Grad. Student, Electrical and Computer Eng., Iowa State Univ., Ames, IA - 50011.
RE: CCIE - I still don't know
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