Re: Last Call: draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option-01.txt (Obsoleting the Endpoint Identifier (EID) Option) to Proposed Standard

2012-10-08 Thread Fernando Gont
On 10/05/2012 03:58 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
  Have the original authors [sic - JNC] been contacted? 
 
 Alas, the author of the ID which defines this option, Charlie Lynn, is no
 longer with us:
 
   http://www.postel.org/pipermail/end2end-interest/2004-June/004195.html
 
 I can probably give as good a judgement on it as anyone, though.

FWIW, being unaware of this, I tried to contact Charles Lynn a couple of
years ago when I was going through each of the then-currently-specified
IPv6 options. I seem to recall checking with Noel regarding whether EID
had ever been deployed (but my memory may certainly fail).


 Looking at the ID defining the option:
 
   http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/nimrod/eidoption.txt
 
 (dunno why the obsoletion ID doesn't give a URL for it),

Yep, it should. -- for some reason the I-D is referencing only
http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/nimrod/ but not the specific I-D that
specified the option. -- I will add a specific reference in the next rev
of the I-D - thanks!



 the obsoletion ID is
 slightly inaccurate: it wasn't just meant to be used with the Nimrod routing
 architecture, but rather the endpoint name format supported by that option
 is totally general, allowing any endpoint name format to be used.

Please let me know if you have any suggestions on how to tweak the text
to improve this.

Thanks!

Best regards,
-- 
Fernando Gont
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Re: Last Call: draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option-01.txt (Obsoleting the Endpoint Identifier (EID) Option) to Proposed Standard

2012-10-05 Thread Eggert, Lars
On Oct 4, 2012, at 20:23, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote:
 The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
 the following document:
 - 'Obsoleting the Endpoint Identifier (EID) Option'
  draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option-01.txt as Proposed Standard

Have the original authors been contacted? Also, I see no reason why this RFC 
would need to be standards track.

Lars




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Re: Last Call: draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option-01.txt (Obsoleting the Endpoint Identifier (EID) Option) to Proposed Standard

2012-10-05 Thread Noel Chiappa
 From: Eggert, Lars l...@netapp.com

 The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
 consider the following document:
 - 'Obsoleting the Endpoint Identifier (EID) Option'
  draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option-01.txt as Proposed Standard

 Have the original authors [sic - JNC] been contacted? 

Alas, the author of the ID which defines this option, Charlie Lynn, is no
longer with us:

  http://www.postel.org/pipermail/end2end-interest/2004-June/004195.html

I can probably give as good a judgement on it as anyone, though.


Looking at the ID defining the option:

  http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/nimrod/eidoption.txt

(dunno why the obsoletion ID doesn't give a URL for it), the obsoletion ID is
slightly inaccurate: it wasn't just meant to be used with the Nimrod routing
architecture, but rather the endpoint name format supported by that option
is totally general, allowing any endpoint name format to be used.

(In fact, one large faction of the Namespace Research Group wanted to use a
format for endpoint names which would have made use of the 'variable length'
capability of this option, but I digress..)

I don't see any particular reason to not obsolete this option, though; no
recent proposal uses a separate header option for endpoint identification in
IPv6. Recent work on adding endpoint names has either i) used part of the
IPv6 address as an EID (e.g. ILNP), or interpreted the existing IPvN address
as an EID (e.g. LISP).

And, in any event, if we decide we need it, we can always bring it back
(according to the obsoletion ID, it's merely to be marked obsolete,
not re-assigned).

Noel


Last Call: draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option-01.txt (Obsoleting the Endpoint Identifier (EID) Option) to Proposed Standard

2012-10-04 Thread The IESG

The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'Obsoleting the Endpoint Identifier (EID) Option'
  draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option-01.txt as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
i...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-11-01. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


   This document formally deprecates the IPv6 Endpoint Identification
   (EID) option (hex value 0x8a), thus cleaning up the corresponding
   IANA registry, and possibly serving as a basis for providing advice
   about the filtering of packets containing this option.




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gont-intarea-obsolete-eid-option/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.