Re: New Mailing List: Internet governance and IETF technical work

2013-09-05 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
On 9/4/13, IAB Chair iab-ch...@ietf.org wrote:
 As requested by the community, the IAB has decided to open a mailing list
 to
 discuss topics regarding the intersection of Internet governance and IETF
 technical work. In particular, this list will focus on issues relating to
 Internet governance and regulation, including the 2014 ITU Plenipotentiary
 Conference, and their potential to impact the future of the Internet
 architecture. In that regard, the community is invited to participate in
 this
 mailing list with an eye toward both receiving more information about these
 events and advising the IAB by identifying key issues for which the board
 may
 wish to provide technical clarifications on how certain policy outcomes
 could
 impact the Internet architecture.
-
 Because Internet governance is often a sensitive topic and passions often
 run high, while anyone from the IETF community is welcome, those who join
 the
 list will be expected to stay within the parameters above (e.g., receiving
 information and providing constructive advice to the IAB) and to comport
 themselves in a respectful way toward all.  To encourage inclusion, we are
 asking that individuals avoid repetitive or excessive posting. The IAB's
 ITU-T
 Coordination Program Leads (currently Ross Callon and Joel Halpern) may, at
 their sole discretion, remove or moderate individuals whose posting is not
 of
 assistance to the IAB or, in the opinion of the Program Leads, of benefit
 to
 the IETF community.

I am confused of what is asked to an individual in ietf community,
first I understand you want invite me to discuss a topic on a list but
in the same time you don't want excessive posting (while agreeing that
all don't want repetition). Discussions may need many postings related
to our interests. People have different ways of measuring
posts/discussions, Do you mean the definition of excessive is 5 posts
per week? However, I am sorry that it seems that I will not join that
list as long I don't understand the value of these discussion
conditions, and don't need excessive conditions managing my
volunteering participation rights.

AB


Re: New Mailing List: Internet governance and IETF technical work

2013-09-05 Thread Arturo Servin


On 9/5/13 6:01 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:
 On 9/4/13, IAB Chair iab-ch...@ietf.org wrote:
 As requested by the community, the IAB has decided to open a mailing list
 to
 discuss topics regarding the intersection of Internet governance and IETF
 technical work. In particular, this list will focus on issues relating to
 Internet governance and regulation, including the 2014 ITU Plenipotentiary
 Conference, and their potential to impact the future of the Internet
 architecture. In that regard, the community is invited to participate in
 this
 mailing list with an eye toward both receiving more information about these
 events and advising the IAB by identifying key issues for which the board
 may
 wish to provide technical clarifications on how certain policy outcomes
 could
 impact the Internet architecture.
 -
 Because Internet governance is often a sensitive topic and passions often
 run high, while anyone from the IETF community is welcome, those who join
 the
 list will be expected to stay within the parameters above (e.g., receiving
 information and providing constructive advice to the IAB) and to comport
 themselves in a respectful way toward all.  To encourage inclusion, we are
 asking that individuals avoid repetitive or excessive posting. The IAB's
 ITU-T
 Coordination Program Leads (currently Ross Callon and Joel Halpern) may, at
 their sole discretion, remove or moderate individuals whose posting is not
 of
 assistance to the IAB or, in the opinion of the Program Leads, of benefit
 to
 the IETF community.
 
 I am confused of what is asked to an individual in ietf community,
 first I understand you want invite me to discuss a topic on a list but
 in the same time you don't want excessive posting (while agreeing that
 all don't want repetition). Discussions may need many postings related
 to our interests. People have different ways of measuring
 posts/discussions, Do you mean the definition of excessive is 5 posts
 per week? However, I am sorry that it seems that I will not join that
 list as long I don't understand the value of these discussion
 conditions, and don't need excessive conditions managing my
 volunteering participation rights.
 
 AB
 


Take it as kind warning that your comments need to be useful and to the
point or you will be banned (or ignored).

Why? Because the IG (Internet Governance) topic is very flammable and
it would be very easy for a discussion to explode in a religious war
that won't be useful for the IAB as input from us (the IETF community).


Best regards,
as




New Mailing List: Internet governance and IETF technical work

2013-09-04 Thread IAB Chair
As requested by the community, the IAB has decided to open a mailing list to
discuss topics regarding the intersection of Internet governance and IETF
technical work. In particular, this list will focus on issues relating to
Internet governance and regulation, including the 2014 ITU Plenipotentiary
Conference, and their potential to impact the future of the Internet
architecture. In that regard, the community is invited to participate in this
mailing list with an eye toward both receiving more information about these
events and advising the IAB by identifying key issues for which the board may
wish to provide technical clarifications on how certain policy outcomes could
impact the Internet architecture.  Examples could include IPv6 deployment,
spam, cybersecurity, and obstacles or challenges to Internet adoption. This
will be an IAB maintained list, and will be subject to normal IETF process
(such as the NOTE WELL statement).

This new email list is:  internetgovt...@iab.org . To join, please visit the
web page:  https://www.iab.org/mailman/listinfo/internetgovtech

The list is specifically not a general discussion list for all issues relating
to the ITU or even Internet Governance.  ISOC will be posting information 
about ISOC mailing lists for more general policy discussions. 

Because Internet governance is often a sensitive topic and passions often
run high, while anyone from the IETF community is welcome, those who join the
list will be expected to stay within the parameters above (e.g., receiving
information and providing constructive advice to the IAB) and to comport
themselves in a respectful way toward all.  To encourage inclusion, we are
asking that individuals avoid repetitive or excessive posting. The IAB's ITU-T
Coordination Program Leads (currently Ross Callon and Joel Halpern) may, at
their sole discretion, remove or moderate individuals whose posting is not of
assistance to the IAB or, in the opinion of the Program Leads, of benefit to
the IETF community.

On behalf of the IAB,
  Russ Housley
  IAB Chair