RE: Plenary Online Experiment
It may be an artifact of email or I may have missed some earlier relevant exchanges, but I am a bit surprised that it is announced for the first time ~ 10 minutes before the event... Of course some of us can't attend in such cases... Stephane -Original Message- From: IETF Chair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:48 PM To: IETF Announcement list Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Plenary Online Experiment It is my pleasure to announce another experiment. People are invited to join the IETF 73 online Plenary meeting. Topic: IETF73 Plenary Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 Time: 3:00 pm, Central Standard Time (GMT -06:00, Chicago) Meeting Number: 925 685 107 Meeting Password: IETF73 Please use the link below to see more information, or to join the meeting. --- To join the online meeting --- 1. Go to h t t p s : / / c i s c o s ales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=110978912UID=0PW=0e56c038797c65750507 2. Enter your name and email address. 3. Enter the meeting password: IETF73 4. Click Join Now. 5. A 'Join Teleconference' dialogue box will be presented, select your country code, then enter your local number and click OK from the Web Conference to join the Voice Conference portion of the meeting. --- To join the teleconference only --- 1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers at http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html 2. Press 3 to attend the meeting. 3. Follow the prompts to enter the Meeting Number (listed above) or Access Code followed by the # sign. US/Canada: +1.866.432.9903 United Kingdom: +44.20.8824.0117 India: +91.80.4103.3979 Germany: +49.619.6773.9002 Japan: +81.3.5763.9394 China: +86.10.8515.5666 Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf --- For assistance --- 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click Support. You can contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+32) 476 476 022 To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: h t t p s : / / c i s c o s a l e s ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Stephane H Maes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be an artifact of email or I may have missed some earlier relevant exchanges, but I am a bit surprised that it is announced for the first time ~ 10 minutes before the event... Of course some of us can't attend in such cases... I hadn't noticed any announcements about it prior to the one at about 3:50p EST today, but chalked it up to the experimental nature. I'm looking forward to the day when there's full remote attendance capability for the plenaries. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
Plenary Online Experiment
It is my pleasure to announce another experiment. People are invited to join the IETF 73 online Plenary meeting. Topic: IETF73 Plenary Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 Time: 3:00 pm, Central Standard Time (GMT -06:00, Chicago) Meeting Number: 925 685 107 Meeting Password: IETF73 Please use the link below to see more information, or to join the meeting. --- To join the online meeting --- 1. Go to h t t p s : / / c i s c o s ales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=110978912UID=0PW=0e56c038797c65750507 2. Enter your name and email address. 3. Enter the meeting password: IETF73 4. Click Join Now. 5. A 'Join Teleconference' dialogue box will be presented, select your country code, then enter your local number and click OK from the Web Conference to join the Voice Conference portion of the meeting. --- To join the teleconference only --- 1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers at http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html 2. Press 3 to attend the meeting. 3. Follow the prompts to enter the Meeting Number (listed above) or Access Code followed by the # sign. US/Canada: +1.866.432.9903 United Kingdom: +44.20.8824.0117 India: +91.80.4103.3979 Germany: +49.619.6773.9002 Japan: +81.3.5763.9394 China: +86.10.8515.5666 Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf --- For assistance --- 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click Support. You can contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+32) 476 476 022 To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: h t t p s : / / c i s c o s a l e s ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Am 19.11.2008 um 21:48 schrieb IETF Chair: 1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers at http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html Hello ? http://www.dimdim.com does the same and is opensource thanks Marc -- If you're not confused, You're not paying attention Les enfants teribbles - research and deployment Marc Manthey - head of research and innovation Hildeboldplatz 1a D - 50672 Köln - Germany Tel.:0049-221-3558032 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] blog : http://www.let.de ipv6 http://stattfernsehen.com xing : https://www.xing.com/profile/Marc_Manthey ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: Plenary Online Experiment
It may be an artifact of email or I may have missed some earlier relevant exchanges, but I am a bit surprised that it is announced for the first time ~ 10 minutes before the event... Of course some of us can't attend in such cases... Stephane -Original Message- From: IETF Chair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:48 PM To: IETF Announcement list Cc: ietf@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Plenary Online Experiment It is my pleasure to announce another experiment. People are invited to join the IETF 73 online Plenary meeting. Topic: IETF73 Plenary Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 Time: 3:00 pm, Central Standard Time (GMT -06:00, Chicago) Meeting Number: 925 685 107 Meeting Password: IETF73 Please use the link below to see more information, or to join the meeting. --- To join the online meeting --- 1. Go to h t t p s : / / c i s c o s ales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=110978912UID=0PW=0e56c038797c65750507 2. Enter your name and email address. 3. Enter the meeting password: IETF73 4. Click Join Now. 5. A 'Join Teleconference' dialogue box will be presented, select your country code, then enter your local number and click OK from the Web Conference to join the Voice Conference portion of the meeting. --- To join the teleconference only --- 1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers at http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html 2. Press 3 to attend the meeting. 3. Follow the prompts to enter the Meeting Number (listed above) or Access Code followed by the # sign. US/Canada: +1.866.432.9903 United Kingdom: +44.20.8824.0117 India: +91.80.4103.3979 Germany: +49.619.6773.9002 Japan: +81.3.5763.9394 China: +86.10.8515.5666 Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf --- For assistance --- 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click Support. You can contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+32) 476 476 022 To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: h t t p s : / / c i s c o s a l e s ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Stephane H Maes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be an artifact of email or I may have missed some earlier relevant exchanges, but I am a bit surprised that it is announced for the first time ~ 10 minutes before the event... Of course some of us can't attend in such cases... I hadn't noticed any announcements about it prior to the one at about 3:50p EST today, but chalked it up to the experimental nature. I'm looking forward to the day when there's full remote attendance capability for the plenaries. -- /Daniel P. Brown http://www.parasane.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Are you volunteering to set this up next time ? I think that such an offer would be gladly accepted. Regards Marshall On Nov 19, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Marc Manthey wrote: Am 19.11.2008 um 21:48 schrieb IETF Chair: 1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers at http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html Hello ? http://www.dimdim.com does the same and is opensource thanks Marc -- If you're not confused, You're not paying attention Les enfants teribbles - research and deployment Marc Manthey - head of research and innovation Hildeboldplatz 1a D - 50672 Köln - Germany Tel.:0049-221-3558032 Mobil:0049-1577-3329231 jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] blog : http://www.let.de ipv6 http://stattfernsehen.com xing : https://www.xing.com/profile/Marc_Manthey ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Am 19.11.2008 um 23:47 schrieb Marshall Eubanks: Are you volunteering to set this up next time ? I think that such an offer would be gladly accepted. as you know i am a flash_hater ;) but seriously I ´ve meet a very talented motivated young C ++ programmer and we started implementing our_own_crossplattform _opensource_software_project. Its in a very early stage but hopefully at the 74 meeting we could have something in our hands. Would it be possible when we give it to the IETF , that we get an invitation for attending to the next meeting when we would make a presentation out of it ? regards Marc -- web : http://dev.let.de PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Marshall http://www.dimdim.com does the same and is opensource ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
On Nov 19, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Marc Manthey wrote: Am 19.11.2008 um 23:47 schrieb Marshall Eubanks: Are you volunteering to set this up next time ? I think that such an offer would be gladly accepted. as you know i am a flash_hater ;) but seriously I ´ve meet a very talented motivated young C ++ programmer and we started implementing our_own_crossplattform _opensource_software_project. Its in a very early stage but hopefully at the 74 meeting we could have something in our hands. There have been a number of lists circulating of various sorts of audio / video / data conferencing and collaborating technologies that we might consider. I think that a BOF on this topic in San Francisco, with support of multiple protocols as a test, might be very useful here. Regards Would it be possible when we give it to the IETF , that we get an invitation for attending to the next meeting when we would make a presentation out of it ? regards Marc -- web : http://dev.let.de PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Marshall http://www.dimdim.com does the same and is opensource ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Am 20.11.2008 um 00:14 schrieb Marshall Eubanks: On Nov 19, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Marc Manthey wrote: Am 19.11.2008 um 23:47 schrieb Marshall Eubanks: Are you volunteering to set this up next time ? I think that such an offer would be gladly accepted. as you know i am a flash_hater ;) but seriously I ´ve meet a very talented motivated young C ++ programmer and we started implementing our_own_crossplattform _opensource_software_project. Its in a very early stage but hopefully at the 74 meeting we could have something in our hands. There have been a number of lists circulating of various sorts of audio / video / data conferencing and collaborating technologies that we might consider. I think that a BOF on this topic in San Francisco, with support of multiple protocols as a test, might be very useful here. 1. ) we are on the other side of the world, 2. ) we look like terrorists ;) 3. ) we dont like aiplanes that much, ( thats the reason why we like to accomplish something like this by the way ; )) Is there any specific lists that i migh join to get information about votings or pro and cons for a specific system thats the IEFT might choose , so i could catch up and we could improve things while we work on it. Guess i will use the jabber / streaming stuff anyway to get informed greetings marc Regards Would it be possible when we give it to the IETF , that we get an invitation for attending to the next meeting when we would make a presentation out of it ? regards Marc -- web : http://dev.let.de PGP/GnuPG: 0x1ac02f3296b12b4d jabber :[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Marshall http://www.dimdim.com does the same and is opensource ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Guess i will use the jabber / streaming stuff anyway to get informed As long as people upload their slides to the meeting materials page, I find this works very well. But I think the idea of experimenting with a variety of more recent tools is a good one. Brian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Am 20.11.2008 um 00:43 schrieb Brian E Carpenter: Guess i will use the jabber / streaming stuff anyway to get informed As long as people upload their slides to the meeting materials page, I find this works very well. But I think the idea of experimenting with a variety of more recent tools is a good one. yes deffinitly i was looking at http://farsight.freedesktop.org/apidoc/farsight2/ aswell , but there is several discussion , because its a bit blown up An opensource_skype_alternative is on the FSF TOP priority list aswell !! http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority.html#skypereplacement and this is worth to have a look at too http://sip-communicator.org/ greetings Marc ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
On Nov 19, 2008, at 2:48 PM, IETF Chair wrote: It is my pleasure to announce another experiment. People are invited to join the IETF 73 online Plenary meeting. Having been a remote participant for multiple past IETF meetings, I definitely applaud any experiments like this that provide more methods to include people who cannot travel to the actual meeting.[1] I would encourage more such experiments for future meetings including such things as streaming video. As others have noted, there are a great number of new services available that make providing these services much easier than it has been before. However, can we *please* put out notice of such experiments with more than 30 minutes notice? It's great that today's plenaries are going out through a web collaboration tool, but it's tough to get that information out to people without much notice. Thanks, Dan [1] And MANY thanks to the teams that provide the audio streaming and Jabber server as they are a huge benefit to remote participants. -- Dan York, CISSP, Director of Emerging Communication Technology Office of the CTOVoxeo Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1-407-455-5859 Skype: danyork http://www.voxeo.com Blogs: http://blogs.voxeo.com http://www.disruptivetelephony.com Build voice applications based on open standards. Find out how at http://www.voxeo.com/free ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Am 19.11.2008 um 21:48 schrieb IETF Chair: --- To join the online meeting --- 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=110978912UID=0PW=0e56c038797c65750507 dear chairs, i would recoment using the up to date techniques to annouce future meetings, http://twitter.com/ieft is available see how much people you can reach here http://twitter.com/BarackObama To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: https//ciscosaes regards Marc ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Plenary Online Experiment
Am 20.11.2008 um 06:30 schrieb Marc Manthey: Am 19.11.2008 um 21:48 schrieb IETF Chair: --- To join the online meeting --- 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=110978912UID=0PW=0e56c038797c65750507 dear chairs, i would recoment using the up to date techniques to annouce future meetings, http://twitter.com/ieft is available ops sorry stupid typo, had no coffee :( account created http://twitter.com/IETF and password send to ietf@ietf.org regards Marc ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Plenary Online Experiment
It is my pleasure to announce another experiment. People are invited to join the IETF 73 online Plenary meeting. Topic: IETF73 Plenary Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 Time: 3:00 pm, Central Standard Time (GMT -06:00, Chicago) Meeting Number: 925 685 107 Meeting Password: IETF73 Please use the link below to see more information, or to join the meeting. --- To join the online meeting --- 1. Go to h t t p s : / / c i s c o s ales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=110978912UID=0PW=0e56c038797c65750507 2. Enter your name and email address. 3. Enter the meeting password: IETF73 4. Click Join Now. 5. A 'Join Teleconference' dialogue box will be presented, select your country code, then enter your local number and click OK from the Web Conference to join the Voice Conference portion of the meeting. --- To join the teleconference only --- 1. Dial into Cisco WebEx (view all Global Access Numbers at http://cisco.com/en/US/about/doing_business/conferencing/index.html 2. Press 3 to attend the meeting. 3. Follow the prompts to enter the Meeting Number (listed above) or Access Code followed by the # sign. US/Canada: +1.866.432.9903 United Kingdom: +44.20.8824.0117 India: +91.80.4103.3979 Germany: +49.619.6773.9002 Japan: +81.3.5763.9394 China: +86.10.8515.5666 Toll-free dialing restrictions: http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf --- For assistance --- 1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click Support. You can contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (+32) 476 476 022 To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft Outlook), click this link: h t t p s : / / c i s c o s a l e s ___ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
