Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-11 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
The IETF Last Call has finished after 06.06.13 and now you request
discussions. I think only IESG can call for discussions not editors.

On 6/10/13, Ulrich Herberg ulr...@herberg.name wrote:
 We have submitted a new revision of the draft, addressing one comment
 from Adrian during IETF LC (which we wanted to address in the previous
 revision, but forgot about it). We added a new section that can
 trigger future work, as requested by Adrian.

I don't see that Adrian requested a future work section, could you
refer to his input for that or was that private request. May be
comments in last call made you think to add missing information as
future. What is the reason for future work in this informational
draft?

 To the WG: Obviously, the new text is up for discussion if anyone has
 any issues with it.

Is that a new text or new idea? if I don't know what the Editors
discussed privately (outside IETF) how can I discuss inside IETF?
However, I will not review any more for this draft because it has
special policy for refering to contributions.

AB


 Best regards
 Ulrich

 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:22 PM, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote:

 The IESG has received a request from the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG
 (manet) to consider the following document:
 - 'Security Threats for NHDP'
   draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt as Informational RFC

 The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
 final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
 ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-06-06. Exceptionally, comments may be
 sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
 beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

 Abstract

This document analyses common security threats of the Neighborhood
Discovery Protocol (NHDP), and describes their potential impacts on
MANET routing protocols using NHDP.

 The file can be obtained via
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/

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RE: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-11 Thread Adrian Farrel
  We have submitted a new revision of the draft, addressing one comment
  from Adrian during IETF LC (which we wanted to address in the previous
  revision, but forgot about it). We added a new section that can
  trigger future work, as requested by Adrian.
 
 I don't see that Adrian requested a future work section, could you
 refer to his input for that or was that private request. May be
 comments in last call made you think to add missing information as
 future. What is the reason for future work in this informational
 draft?

Abdussalam,

Look and ye shall see. Seek and ye shall find. 

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg15423.html
 2. Please consider adding a short section that may drive new work by
   suggesting which threats need to be addressed in new protocol work,
   which in deployment, and which by applications.

Adrian



Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-10 Thread Ulrich Herberg
We have submitted a new revision of the draft, addressing one comment
from Adrian during IETF LC (which we wanted to address in the previous
revision, but forgot about it). We added a new section that can
trigger future work, as requested by Adrian.

To the WG: Obviously, the new text is up for discussion if anyone has
any issues with it.

Best regards
Ulrich

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:22 PM, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote:

 The IESG has received a request from the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG
 (manet) to consider the following document:
 - 'Security Threats for NHDP'
   draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt as Informational RFC

 The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
 final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
 ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-06-06. Exceptionally, comments may be
 sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
 beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

 Abstract

This document analyses common security threats of the Neighborhood
Discovery Protocol (NHDP), and describes their potential impacts on
MANET routing protocols using NHDP.

 The file can be obtained via
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/

 IESG discussion can be tracked via
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Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-06 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013
I-D: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03
Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:06/06/2013
Reviewer Comment A3: Use Cases not considered and the Information Bases Threats.
+++
*Use-cases threats*

Reading the RFC6130 applicability section 3, the I-D does not consider
all the use-cases included in the that section 3.

AB Does the use-case of NHDP [RFC6130] add any value to the threats,
or the I-D assumes only one use case which is OLSRv2 network.

The NHDP uses RFC5444 packets and RFC5444 messages, so what are the
threats to NHDP use for each? not mentioned in I-D.

RFC6130 NHDP Can use relevant link-layer information if it is available.
AB is there any threat from that use-case? not mentioned in the I-D.

*Information bases threats*

RFC6130 Appendix F This appendix illustrates various examples of
physical topologies, as well as how these are logically recorded by
NHDP from the point of
view of the router A. This representation is a composite of
information that would be contained within A’s various Information
Bases after NHDP has been running for sufficiently long time for the
state to converge.

AB Why the logically recording of the NHDP for all the examples not
mentioned in the I-D and were not threat analysed? If there is similar
level of threats related to all exampels in RFC6130, then please
mention that.


This is my last message, thanks.

Regards
AB


Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-06 Thread Ulrich Herberg
AB,

while the IETF LC has already ended, I will reply to your comments below:

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Abdussalam Baryun
abdussalambar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013
 I-D: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03
 Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:06/06/2013
 Reviewer Comment A3: Use Cases not considered and the Information Bases 
 Threats.
 +++
 *Use-cases threats*

 Reading the RFC6130 applicability section 3, the I-D does not consider
 all the use-cases included in the that section 3.

 AB Does the use-case of NHDP [RFC6130] add any value to the threats,
 or the I-D assumes only one use case which is OLSRv2 network.

I don't understand the question. The use case is a MANET running NHDP.
Section 5 in addition outlines consequences of security threats to
NHDP for protocols using the information from NHDP.


 The NHDP uses RFC5444 packets and RFC5444 messages, so what are the
 threats to NHDP use for each? not mentioned in I-D.

I don't understand the question. There is no danger from a message or
packet itself;  they may contain information that has either been
legitimately tampered with or that is wrong because of
misconfiguration. And these are the cases we have described.


 RFC6130 NHDP Can use relevant link-layer information if it is available.
 AB is there any threat from that use-case? not mentioned in the I-D.

After discussion on the MANET mailing list, this was already added in
section 4.8 (even though the link quality itself is not a normative
part of RFC6130, the authors agreed to add that section).


 *Information bases threats*

 RFC6130 Appendix F This appendix illustrates various examples of
 physical topologies, as well as how these are logically recorded by
 NHDP from the point of
 view of the router A. This representation is a composite of
 information that would be contained within A’s various Information
 Bases after NHDP has been running for sufficiently long time for the
 state to converge.

 AB Why the logically recording of the NHDP for all the examples not
 mentioned in the I-D and were not threat analysed? If there is similar
 level of threats related to all exampels in RFC6130, then please
 mention that.


I don't understand the question. The example in RFC6130 simply
illustrates how NHDP would perceive and store several sample
topologies. How would that represent a level of threat? The I-D
describes several security threats and explains in which situations
these could occur (and what effect it would have). That could happen
in an infinite amount of different topologies, so it is impossible
(and useless) to list all topologies where such attacks could occur.

Best regards
Ulrich


RE: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-06 Thread Adrian Farrel
I find it somewhat disruptive that this email raises new questions on a draft
authored in a working group in which you participate, and that it has arrived
after the end of IETF last call.

I see a series of questions in this message, but no suggested textual changes. I
therefore conclude that you are requesting no changes and none shall be made. 

Thank you.
Adrian

 Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013
 I-D: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03
 Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:06/06/2013
 Reviewer Comment A3: Use Cases not considered and the Information Bases
 Threats.
 +++
 *Use-cases threats*



Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-06 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
I received an IESG message asking my comments so I gave it, regard to
your comments below, the reply is that I refer to missing information
needed in the I-D, so the reveiw suggests that there is something
missing. Did not suggested text because I know that it most probably
not be considered.

The Last call ends by 06.06.2013 so I still am in this date, not sure
why you close,

AB


On 6/6/13, Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk wrote:
 I find it somewhat disruptive that this email raises new questions on a
 draft
 authored in a working group in which you participate, and that it has
 arrived
 after the end of IETF last call.

 I see a series of questions in this message, but no suggested textual
 changes. I
 therefore conclude that you are requesting no changes and none shall be
 made.

 Thank you.
 Adrian

 Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013
 I-D: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03
 Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:06/06/2013
 Reviewer Comment A3: Use Cases not considered and the Information Bases
 Threats.
 +++
 *Use-cases threats*




Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-03 Thread Jiazi Yi
Hi, 

I think it's OK to add an informative reference to draft-ietf-nhdp-olsrv2-sec, 
which serves as a pointer to the related work going on, and possible 
countermeasures to the threats. 

best

Jiazi

On Jun 3, 2013, at 07:35 , Ulrich Herberg ulr...@herberg.name wrote:

 Hi Adrian,
 
 I personally agree that adding an informational ref to 
 draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec is a good idea. I will discuss with my 
 co-authors.
 
 Thanks
 Ulrich
 
 On Sunday, June 2, 2013, Adrian Farrel wrote:
 Hi Abdussalam,
 
 I think it is a reasonable suggestion for this I-D to make a forward reference
 to draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec
 Although this work is clearly scoped to NHDP (RFC 6130) as currently 
 specified,
 it is worth an informational reference to note that there is work in progress
 that seeks to update NHDP to counter a number of security threats described in
 this document.
 
 I do not think, however, that this I-D should attempt to describe the 
 situation
 with NHDP after the inclusion of protocol work that has not yet been 
 completed.
 Contrary to your suggestion, I think this I-D motivates updates to 6130 and it
 would be wrong to review this document in the context of changes being made to
 address this document.
 
 Thanks,
 Adrian
 
  I think if we got an effort in IETF to update NHDP [RFC6130] as draft
  [1] does, why this reviewed I-D of threats does not include [1] in its
  references to be reviewed before reviewing this NHDP-threat I-D? I
  suggest to include draft [1] in References section, IMHO, any updates
  to RFC6130 should be considered by the community while reviewing this
  I-D.
 
  [1] draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec-02
 



Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-03 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
I would hope that IETF add my name in the acknowledgement section of the
I-D. I complained to AD about that my efforts in WGLC was not acknowledged
by editors even after my request, however, I did not stop reviewing (trying
not be discouraged) which I will complete on 6 June with the final
comments. Therefore, this message (can be added as a comment on the I-D) is
an objection to section 8 that ignores acknowledge input/review effort
related to the I-D.

AB


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Ulrich Herberg ulr...@herberg.name wrote:

 Hi Adrian,

 I personally agree that adding an informational ref to
 draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec is a good idea. I will discuss with my
 co-authors.

 Thanks
 Ulrich


 On Sunday, June 2, 2013, Adrian Farrel wrote:

 Hi Abdussalam,

 I think it is a reasonable suggestion for this I-D to make a forward
 reference
 to draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec
 Although this work is clearly scoped to NHDP (RFC 6130) as currently
 specified,
 it is worth an informational reference to note that there is work in
 progress
 that seeks to update NHDP to counter a number of security threats
 described in
 this document.

 I do not think, however, that this I-D should attempt to describe the
 situation
 with NHDP after the inclusion of protocol work that has not yet been
 completed.
 Contrary to your suggestion, I think this I-D motivates updates to 6130
 and it
 would be wrong to review this document in the context of changes being
 made to
 address this document.

 Thanks,
 Adrian

  I think if we got an effort in IETF to update NHDP [RFC6130] as draft
  [1] does, why this reviewed I-D of threats does not include [1] in its
  references to be reviewed before reviewing this NHDP-threat I-D? I
  suggest to include draft [1] in References section, IMHO, any updates
  to RFC6130 should be considered by the community while reviewing this
  I-D.
 
  [1] draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec-02




RE: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-02 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi Abdussalam,

I think it is a reasonable suggestion for this I-D to make a forward reference
to draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec
Although this work is clearly scoped to NHDP (RFC 6130) as currently specified,
it is worth an informational reference to note that there is work in progress
that seeks to update NHDP to counter a number of security threats described in
this document.

I do not think, however, that this I-D should attempt to describe the situation
with NHDP after the inclusion of protocol work that has not yet been completed.
Contrary to your suggestion, I think this I-D motivates updates to 6130 and it
would be wrong to review this document in the context of changes being made to
address this document. 

Thanks,
Adrian

 I think if we got an effort in IETF to update NHDP [RFC6130] as draft
 [1] does, why this reviewed I-D of threats does not include [1] in its
 references to be reviewed before reviewing this NHDP-threat I-D? I
 suggest to include draft [1] in References section, IMHO, any updates
 to RFC6130 should be considered by the community while reviewing this
 I-D.
 
 [1] draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec-02



Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-02 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Hi Adrian

My comments below,

On 6/2/13, Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk wrote:
 Hi Abdussalam,

 I think it is a reasonable suggestion for this I-D to make a forward
 reference
 to draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec
 Although this work is clearly scoped to NHDP (RFC 6130) as currently
 specified,
 it is worth an informational reference to note that there is work in
 progress
 that seeks to update NHDP to counter a number of security threats described
 in
 this document.

So I understand you agree with my suggestion on this I-D to
referencing/refering to that draft [1].


 I do not think, however, that this I-D should attempt to describe the
 situation
 with NHDP after the inclusion of protocol work that has not yet been
 completed.

I think the work completes when the WG submits to AD, but reviews not
completed. IMHO, the draft/work [1] is completed from WGLC, and now is
at AD review.

 Contrary to your suggestion, I think this I-D motivates updates to 6130 and
 it
 would be wrong to review this document in the context of changes being made
 to
 address this document.

I suggest the I-D referencing. I do not think I suggested way of
reviews, but that other satetment was my opinion/beleive or advise to
community of such reveiw for output quality. I don't understand why
you think it was wrong way of review, after you agreed to reference
such document (usually my reviewing reviews all references as well).

Regards
AB


 I think if we got an effort in IETF to update NHDP [RFC6130] as draft
 [1] does, why this reviewed I-D of threats does not include [1] in its
 references to be reviewed before reviewing this NHDP-threat I-D? I
 suggest to include draft [1] in References section, IMHO, any updates
 to RFC6130 should be considered by the community while reviewing this
 I-D.

 [1] draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec-02




Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-02 Thread Ulrich Herberg
Hi Adrian,

I personally agree that adding an informational ref to
draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec is a good idea. I will discuss with my
co-authors.

Thanks
Ulrich

On Sunday, June 2, 2013, Adrian Farrel wrote:

 Hi Abdussalam,

 I think it is a reasonable suggestion for this I-D to make a forward
 reference
 to draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec
 Although this work is clearly scoped to NHDP (RFC 6130) as currently
 specified,
 it is worth an informational reference to note that there is work in
 progress
 that seeks to update NHDP to counter a number of security threats
 described in
 this document.

 I do not think, however, that this I-D should attempt to describe the
 situation
 with NHDP after the inclusion of protocol work that has not yet been
 completed.
 Contrary to your suggestion, I think this I-D motivates updates to 6130
 and it
 would be wrong to review this document in the context of changes being
 made to
 address this document.

 Thanks,
 Adrian

  I think if we got an effort in IETF to update NHDP [RFC6130] as draft
  [1] does, why this reviewed I-D of threats does not include [1] in its
  references to be reviewed before reviewing this NHDP-threat I-D? I
  suggest to include draft [1] in References section, IMHO, any updates
  to RFC6130 should be considered by the community while reviewing this
  I-D.
 
  [1] draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec-02




Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-06-01 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Continue Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013
Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:02/06/2013
Reviewed I-D: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03
Reviewer Comment A2: Referencing the NHDP and related to RFC6130
++

I think if we got an effort in IETF to update NHDP [RFC6130] as draft
[1] does, why this reviewed I-D of threats does not include [1] in its
references to be reviewed before reviewing this NHDP-threat I-D? I
suggest to include draft [1] in References section, IMHO, any updates
to RFC6130 should be considered by the community while reviewing this
I-D.

[1] draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-sec-02

AB

 On 5/24/13, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote:

 The IESG has received a request from the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG
 (manet) to consider the following document:
 - 'Security Threats for NHDP'
   draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt as Informational RFC

 The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
 final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
 ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-06-06. Exceptionally, comments may be
 sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
 beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

 Abstract

This document analyses common security threats of the Neighborhood
Discovery Protocol (NHDP), and describes their potential impacts on
MANET routing protocols using NHDP.

 The file can be obtained via
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/

 IESG discussion can be tracked via
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/ballot/


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Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-05-28 Thread Jiazi YI
Hi,

I think those comments have been addressed/answered in my previous reply

  http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg15274.html

I didn't see the support of your comments from other WG participants.

best

Jiazi


2013/5/27 Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com

 Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013

 Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:27/05/2013
 Reviewer Comment A1: Previous comments in WGLC
 +++

 Related to your request below please read my previous review comments
 [1] and I will continue with additional messages/comments.

 [1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg15254.html

 Regards
 AB

 On 5/24/13, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote:
 
  The IESG has received a request from the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG
  (manet) to consider the following document:
  - 'Security Threats for NHDP'
draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt as Informational RFC
 
  The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
  final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
  ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-06-06. Exceptionally, comments may
 be
  sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
  beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
 
  Abstract
 
 This document analyses common security threats of the Neighborhood
 Discovery Protocol (NHDP), and describes their potential impacts on
 MANET routing protocols using NHDP.
 
  The file can be obtained via
  http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/
 
  IESG discussion can be tracked via
 
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/ballot/
 
 
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Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-05-27 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013

Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:27/05/2013
Reviewer Comment A1: Previous comments in WGLC
+++

Related to your request below please read my previous review comments
[1] and I will continue with additional messages/comments.

[1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg15254.html

Regards
AB

On 5/24/13, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote:

 The IESG has received a request from the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG
 (manet) to consider the following document:
 - 'Security Threats for NHDP'
   draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt as Informational RFC

 The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
 final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
 ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-06-06. Exceptionally, comments may be
 sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
 beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

 Abstract

This document analyses common security threats of the Neighborhood
Discovery Protocol (NHDP), and describes their potential impacts on
MANET routing protocols using NHDP.

 The file can be obtained via
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/

 IESG discussion can be tracked via
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/ballot/


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Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-05-27 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Hi,
Reviews at this stage don't need supports from WG when it is in the
IETF Last Call, the comments are sent as per request of iesg.

AB

On 5/27/13, Jiazi YI yi.ji...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I think those comments have been addressed/answered in my previous reply

   http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg15274.html

 I didn't see the support of your comments from other WG participants.

 best

 Jiazi


 2013/5/27 Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com

 Reply to your request dated 24/05/2013

 Draft Reviewed By: Abdussalam Baryun (AB)Dated:27/05/2013
 Reviewer Comment A1: Previous comments in WGLC
 +++

 Related to your request below please read my previous review comments
 [1] and I will continue with additional messages/comments.

 [1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg15254.html

 Regards
 AB

 On 5/24/13, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote:
 
  The IESG has received a request from the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks WG
  (manet) to consider the following document:
  - 'Security Threats for NHDP'
draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt as Informational RFC
 
  The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
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  Abstract
 
 This document analyses common security threats of the Neighborhood
 Discovery Protocol (NHDP), and describes their potential impacts on
 MANET routing protocols using NHDP.
 
  The file can be obtained via
  http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats/
 
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Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-05-27 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
On 5/27/13, Jiazi YI yi.ji...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I think those comments have been addressed/answered in my previous reply

   http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg15274.html

 I didn't see the support of your comments from other WG participants.

I also didn't see objection of my comments from the WG. I also didn't
see support of your reply from the WG.  (WG decisions are
WG-rough-consensus, not the editors opinion). If there was WG
objection then I will report that in my reviews to IESG as
information.

AB


Re: [manet] Last Call: draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-03.txt (Security Threats for NHDP) to Informational RFC

2013-05-27 Thread Melinda Shore
On 5/27/13 10:39 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:
 I also didn't see objection of my comments from the WG. I also didn't
 see support of your reply from the WG.  (WG decisions are
 WG-rough-consensus, not the editors opinion).

Chairs call consensus.