Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
The id-announce mails are defective. I thought the proposal was to ADD a URL to the HTML/tools or datatracker versions of the I-D, rather than remove the URL to the versioned TXT file. While Barry Leibas suggested Greasemonkey script curiously fixes the 404 error created by the recent change to the I-D announcements for the Browser usage case, my download script that receives those I-D announce mailings doesn't run GreaseMonkey, and would appreciate the continuing presence of a URL to the versioned TXT file that this particular announcement is about. Otherwise I'm just fine with *ADD*ional URLs to either tools-HTML or datatracker or both. -Martin ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On 2012-03-06 14:41, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? ... +1000 ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On 2012-03-06 08:51, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-03-06 14:41, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? ... +1000 +INT_MAX Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart -- http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source-- http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server -- http://numb.viagenie.ca ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
Even better, also add the XML2RFC output if it's available at the same time: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-name.html for example, (just picking my own latest draft as an example): http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nir-websec-extended-origin-02.html I don't know which drafts get this version (perhaps those submitted along with XML?), but they're sure easier to read than TXT. Yoav On Mar 6, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? Cheers, Xavier ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca wrote: On 2012-03-06 08:51, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-03-06 14:41, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? ... +1000 +INT_MAX +\aleph_0 :-) Seriously, it would be really nice to have this feature. Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart -- http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source -- http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server -- http://numb.viagenie.ca ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On 2012-03-06 14:56, Yoav Nir wrote: Even better, also add the XML2RFC output if it's available at the same time: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-name.html for example, (just picking my own latest draft as an example): http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-nir-websec-extended-origin-02.html +1 I don't know which drafts get this version (perhaps those submitted along with XML?), but they're sure easier to read than TXT. Indeed I'd like to understand that as well. In particular, as this apparently runs an outdated version of rfc2629.xslt, and then mangles it's output (HTML tidy maybe?) causing what's served to be invalid HTML. Best regards, Julian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
+1. This will save a few typing and clicks. Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? Cheers, Xavier ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Russ On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? Cheers, Xavier ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? then we can each have our cake and eat it too. but i fear folk may just want the bright shiny. randy ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On 3/6/2012 6:12 AM, Russ Housley wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ +1 d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Yes, it would be fine. From my point of view the two versions are almost equivalent, this latter maybe is more flexible (at the expense of one more click, which is negligible) then we can each have our cake and eat it too. but i fear folk may just want the bright shiny. randy ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
It would be acceptable to me, especially since there's a link from there to the tools HTML version. (Look for the html link at the top.) Tony Hansen On 3/6/2012 9:12 AM, Russ Housley wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Russ On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? Cheers, Xavier ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
With a link like https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ (e.g. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-websec-extended-origin/ ), I will most often then click again on the html top right link. But I'm fine with it too. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Russ On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? Cheers, Xavier ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
The XML2RFC version is not linked from there. If that was added to the Other versions field, that would be great. On Mar 6, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Xavier Marjou wrote: With a link like https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ (e.g. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nir-websec-extended-origin/ ), I will most often then click again on the html top right link. But I'm fine with it too. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Russ On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Xavier Marjou wrote: As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? Cheers, Xavier ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf Scanned by Check Point Total Security Gateway. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
almost equivalent, this latter maybe is more flexible (at the expense of one more click, which is negligible) Re: one more click... https://datatracker.ietf.org/cookies/ Note the third item. Barry ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
-Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Xavier Marjou Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 5:42 AM To: IETF Discussion Subject: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ? As a subscriber of the i-d-annou...@ietf.org list, I generally prefer reading the HTML version of the draft rather than the TXT version. I thus often need to manually rewrite the TXT link to fetch the HTML version of the draft. I can not believe I'm the only one. Hence, would it be possible to also include a link like http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-name in the mail of the announced draft? ...or a link to the datatracker page, which in turn has links to all available formats? -MSK ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
RE: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
-Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Russ Housley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:13 AM To: Xavier Marjou Cc: IETF Discussion Subject: Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ? I would be much happier with a link to the datatracker HTML version: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-name/ Would this meet your needs? Serves me right for not reading the thread before replying. +ULONG_MAX, so there. -MSK ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On 2012-03-06 16:26, Yoav Nir wrote: The XML2RFC version is not linked from there. If that was added to the Other versions field, that would be great. ... Indeed. HTMLized plain text is progress over plain text, but properly generated HTML is better. But I fear we're getting close to our beloved permathread. Best regards, Julian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
On Mar 6, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-03-06 16:26, Yoav Nir wrote: The XML2RFC version is not linked from there. If that was added to the Other versions field, that would be great. ... Indeed. HTMLized plain text is progress over plain text, but properly generated HTML is better. But I fear we're getting close to our beloved permathread. Pictures in RFCs? ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
Pictures in RFCs? Come to the RFCFORM BOF to voice opinions on this topic. Russ ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: Add a link to the HTML version in i-d-announce mails ?
Not that voicing opinions on this topic has ever done any good. -T On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: Pictures in RFCs? Come to the RFCFORM BOF to voice opinions on this topic. Russ ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
