Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned
I loved Gordon's post. I thought it was very interesting to see how the Telecommunications industry is self destructing,..and how things (including a lot of jobs) could be saved if we acted on time. Regards, Alex. Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: At 5:11 PM -0500 1/6/02, Gordon Cook wrote: I sent but a single copy of 'empowering' to the list. It returned THREE to me. If everyone else got 3, my apologies. If anyone can inform me as to what happened i'd appreciate it. Er, a better question is why you spammed the IETF list at all. --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned
I've heard the pre-mature announcements of the death of the ILECs before. Where in the analysis did it address the monthly subscription revenue, whether one makes a phone call or not? They are taking in US$ billions each month. Mike At 11:50 AM 1/7/2002 -0600, Alex Audu wrote: I loved Gordon's post. I thought it was very interesting to see how the Telecommunications industry is self destructing,..and how things (including a lot of jobs) could be saved if we acted on time. Regards, Alex. Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: At 5:11 PM -0500 1/6/02, Gordon Cook wrote: I sent but a single copy of 'empowering' to the list. It returned THREE to me. If everyone else got 3, my apologies. If anyone can inform me as to what happened i'd appreciate it. Er, a better question is why you spammed the IETF list at all. --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned
At 08:36 PM 1/6/2002 -0600, Timothy J. Salo wrote: While Gordon is regularly fairly confused, he sometimes does provide a few interesting tidbits in his infrequent postings. The information The basic rule about making rules for these sorts of situations is that they need to be easy and quick to enforce. In other words, objective and mechanical. You appear to want a rule that says acceptability is based on whether there is consensus that people like the posting. That makes for a rule that is difficult and slow to enforce. The existing IETF rule prohibits commercial postings. Gordon's announcement pertains to a commercial newsletter. If you want the announcements, sign up for his list, as many others have. Disliking the other content on the IETF list does not warrant permitting postings that violate formal acceptable use policies. d/ -- Dave Crocker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Brandenburg InternetWorking http://www.brandenburg.com tel +1.408.246.8253; fax +1.408.273.6464
RE: one copy sent to list but THREE returned
It's easy to hit the side of a barn with a shotgun, harder to build it ;-) Peter -Original Message- From: Alex Audu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 January 2002 17:50 To: Paul Hoffman / IMC Cc: Gordon Cook; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned I loved Gordon's post. I thought it was very interesting to see how the Telecommunications industry is self destructing,..and how things (including a lot of jobs) could be saved if we acted on time. Regards, Alex. Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: At 5:11 PM -0500 1/6/02, Gordon Cook wrote: I sent but a single copy of 'empowering' to the list. It returned THREE to me. If everyone else got 3, my apologies. If anyone can inform me as to what happened i'd appreciate it. Er, a better question is why you spammed the IETF list at all. --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
one copy sent to list but THREE returned
I sent but a single copy of 'empowering' to the list. It returned THREE to me. If everyone else got 3, my apologies. If anyone can inform me as to what happened i'd appreciate it. -- The COOK Report on Internet, 431 Greenway Ave, Ewing, NJ 08618 USA (609) 882-2572 (phone fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription info prices at http://cookreport.com/subscriptions.shtmlSummary of content for 10 years at http://cookreport.com/past_issues.shtml Empowering the Customer or Empowering the Telco? Information on just published 458 page report at http://cookreport.com/empowering.shtml
Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned
At 5:11 PM -0500 1/6/02, Gordon Cook wrote: I sent but a single copy of 'empowering' to the list. It returned THREE to me. If everyone else got 3, my apologies. If anyone can inform me as to what happened i'd appreciate it. Er, a better question is why you spammed the IETF list at all. --Paul Hoffman, Director --Internet Mail Consortium
Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned
To: Gordon Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Hoffman / IMC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned At 5:11 PM -0500 1/6/02, Gordon Cook wrote: I sent but a single copy of 'empowering' to the list. It returned THREE to me. If everyone else got 3, my apologies. If anyone can inform me as to what happened i'd appreciate it. Er, a better question is why you spammed the IETF list at all. Oh, please. Compared to what? Megabytes of viruses? Long discussions about whether viruses should be filtered from the IETF mail list? Long discussions about whether IETF mail lists should accept e-mail only from subscribers? Repeated tirades against address translation? While Gordon is regularly fairly confused, he sometimes does provide a few interesting tidbits in his infrequent postings. The information content of his postings probably ranks at least average for IETF postings (I am sorry to say). It seems to me that Gordon's postings are the least of the challenges faced by the IETF mail list. -tjs
Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned
Enginneering and computer science disipline are a joke. It seems ppl in these feilds all about ego and no documentation or worse terse confusing documentation. (eg rfcs) cut the crap and do something usefull. And yes, I am not helping here.. At 08:36 PM 1/6/02 -0600, Timothy J. Salo wrote: To: Gordon Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Hoffman / IMC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: one copy sent to list but THREE returned At 5:11 PM -0500 1/6/02, Gordon Cook wrote: I sent but a single copy of 'empowering' to the list. It returned THREE to me. If everyone else got 3, my apologies. If anyone can inform me as to what happened i'd appreciate it. Er, a better question is why you spammed the IETF list at all. Oh, please. Compared to what? Megabytes of viruses? Long discussions about whether viruses should be filtered from the IETF mail list? Long discussions about whether IETF mail lists should accept e-mail only from subscribers? Repeated tirades against address translation? While Gordon is regularly fairly confused, he sometimes does provide a few interesting tidbits in his infrequent postings. The information content of his postings probably ranks at least average for IETF postings (I am sorry to say). It seems to me that Gordon's postings are the least of the challenges faced by the IETF mail list. -tjs
