Re: [Ifolder-dev] Community or not ? (related to the wiki thread)

2007-07-12 Thread Balakrishnan KalIdas
Hi All,

 The Novell iFolder Wiki is being moved to a production server under Novell 
IST for better maintenance and high availability. We will hear soon after the 
migration is done. Meanwhile we are welcome to add to the wiki, so that the new 
data can be migrated once the new server is up and running.

 This is other reason why there are no updates to the Wiki. The first phase 
movement is over, and is undergoing some testing, so we should have it up soon.

 Thanks for all your help in iFolder, Novell needs the community for mutual 
growth. Currently there is less activity from Novell in the community due to 
closure of huge list of pending bugs in iFolder, the whole team is working day 
and night testing and fixing issues, so that we have a stable build that can be 
provided to the community and take is forward from there.

 Due to the wiki movement, the daily build server is currently off. We are 
working on a way to get builds to the community. I should heartily thank 
Jan-Simon for providing builds. Also others for helping in various build and 
setup issues. IMO, we as Novell are working to get a stable build to the 
community as that has been the major concern in the community. It would be 
great if the community can help us provide support for other flavors of Linux 
like CentOS, FC and others, as we do not have resource to look at those issues.

 We will share more in forth-coming mails.

Thanks,
Kalis

 Jan-Simon Möller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/07 2:40 PM 
Hi all !

My thoughts ... on the wiki-spam thread - applies to the whole 
iFolder project.


SRI, but it's that simple: if Novell want's a Community to do some work on 
a wiki, _we_ (=both) need to have the technical requirements (=good 
functioning wiki) and _we_ need communication (to share 
ideas/positions/information).
I attended some of the openSUSE status meetings and i really think that's the 
way to go. No one wants to prevent novell from making money (ok, competitors 
maybe ;) ... but at least no one out of the community committed to the 
several projects) - so fantastic that iFolder is part of OES2 - great to have 
a professional solution for that. But why is there no communication ... ? The 
code is GPLed so that's no secret. That's more likely the integration in eDir 
and the management interface in OES2. 

I really know the team in Bangalore is busy (OES2). So don't feel blamed by my 
writing here. My intention is more likely to establish a good way where you 
(devs/novell) profit from an active community and we (community) get a 
fascinating piece of software in return.

My thoughts about iFolder is that it's a great software, but it needs more 
publicity. This means more users. If they feel comfortable with it (and i've 
no doubt they will), this also leads to more bussiness for novell because 
companies then use it and need solutions for their environments.
So why not create a community and use word of mouth propaganda _in addition 
to_ the typical marketing.



So these were my 2 cent on the situation ... what are your's ?

Sincerely yours

Jan-Simon Möller
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Re: [Ifolder-dev] Community or not ? (related to the wiki thread)

2007-07-12 Thread Jan-Simon Möller
Hi Balakrishnan KalIdas , hi all!

Many thanks for answering and joining this discussion.

Am Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2007 10:04:00 schrieb Balakrishnan KalIdas:
 Hi All,

  The Novell iFolder Wiki is being moved to a production server under Novell
 IST for better maintenance and high availability. We will hear soon after
 the migration is done. Meanwhile we are welcome to add to the wiki, so that
 the new data can be migrated once the new server is up and running.

  This is other reason why there are no updates to the Wiki. The first phase
 movement is over, and is undergoing some testing, so we should have it up
 soon.

Great news! Looking forward to the new possibilities. Things take time to get 
setup and rolled out, so lets happily drink some tea. It's good to have a 
perspective.

  Thanks for all your help in iFolder, Novell needs the community for mutual
 growth. Currently there is less activity from Novell in the community due
 to closure of huge list of pending bugs in iFolder, the whole team is
 working day and night testing and fixing issues, so that we have a stable
 build that can be provided to the community and take is forward from there.

As far as I could notice it from here this is really really what my impression 
is. And I appreciate the efforts of the whole team !! YOU DO GREAT WORK !


  Due to the wiki movement, the daily build server is currently off. We are
 working on a way to get builds to the community. I should heartily thank
 Jan-Simon for providing builds. Also others for helping in various build
 and setup issues. IMO, we as Novell are working to get a stable build to
 the community as that has been the major concern in the community. It would
 be great if the community can help us provide support for other flavors of
 Linux like CentOS, FC and others, as we do not have resource to look at
 those issues.

Tnx to the buildservice, I can do this. It's supposed to exculpate the devs 
from the builds atm so they can concentrate on the big todo-list ;) 
If it helps great! 
BTW if someone is a debian crack and reads this - please contact me to get 
debian builds also running :P 



  We will share more in forth-coming mails.

 Thanks,
 Kalis

Thanks,
Jan-Simon

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[Ifolder-dev] Community or not ? (related to the wiki thread)

2007-07-10 Thread Jan-Simon Möller
Hi all !

My thoughts ... on the wiki-spam thread - applies to the whole 
iFolder project.


SRI, but it's that simple: if Novell want's a Community to do some work on 
a wiki, _we_ (=both) need to have the technical requirements (=good 
functioning wiki) and _we_ need communication (to share 
ideas/positions/information).
I attended some of the openSUSE status meetings and i really think that's the 
way to go. No one wants to prevent novell from making money (ok, competitors 
maybe ;) ... but at least no one out of the community committed to the 
several projects) - so fantastic that iFolder is part of OES2 - great to have 
a professional solution for that. But why is there no communication ... ? The 
code is GPLed so that's no secret. That's more likely the integration in eDir 
and the management interface in OES2. 

I really know the team in Bangalore is busy (OES2). So don't feel blamed by my 
writing here. My intention is more likely to establish a good way where you 
(devs/novell) profit from an active community and we (community) get a 
fascinating piece of software in return.

My thoughts about iFolder is that it's a great software, but it needs more 
publicity. This means more users. If they feel comfortable with it (and i've 
no doubt they will), this also leads to more bussiness for novell because 
companies then use it and need solutions for their environments.
So why not create a community and use word of mouth propaganda _in addition 
to_ the typical marketing.



So these were my 2 cent on the situation ... what are your's ?

Sincerely yours

Jan-Simon Möller
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Re: [Ifolder-dev] Community or not ? (related to the wiki thread)

2007-07-10 Thread Jan-Simon Möller
There's a good proverb:

There's no problem - only a solution!




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