Re: [Ilugc] Students Project - suggestions
On 10:43:20 Oct 16, Gourav Shah wrote: I had a talk with folks back at my organization, and we do have a few interesting projects that we want to work on, but don't have enough time due to our other engagements. I have put togather a list of those projects as well as few personal hobby projects, that we would love to see taken up by students and getting it done. The students will get to learn on few of the interesting and practical technologies. We might be able to have them intern at Efficient Frontier(www.efrontier.com) subject to our availibilty to mentor them. [..] Nice effort. Looks interesting. -Girish ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Linux Admin Course
Hi Lugs One of my friend is working in bangalore he want to Join Linux Admin Course. any body know good institute with 100% Practical training around bangalore mail me back Regards ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Squid-The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help!
Hi All, I have configured squid squidGuard in debian Etch. with Squid, it is working fine. After creating .db files for squidGuard ,I enable the redirector_bypass on in squid.conf. But after that squid service is not running and it says ok! Please guide me to solve this.(I have googled but in vain). The same set of error comes 2 times for a single squid restart my /var/log/syslog message is as follows, Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Starting Squid Cache version 2.6.STABLE18 for i386-debian-linux-gnu... Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Process ID 26174 Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: With 1024 file descriptors available Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Using epoll for the IO loop Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: DNS Socket created at 0.0.0.0, port 49072, FD 6 Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Adding nameserver 127.0.0.1 from /etc/resolv.conf Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: helperOpenServers: Starting 8 'squidGuard' processes Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: User-Agent logging is disabled. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Referer logging is disabled. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26172]: Squid Parent: child process 26174 started Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Unlinkd pipe opened on FD 19 Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Swap maxSize 102400 KB, estimated 7876 objects Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Target number of buckets: 393 Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Using 8192 Store buckets Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Max Mem size: 8192 KB Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Max Swap size: 102400 KB Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Local cache digest enabled; rebuild/rewrite every 3600/3600 sec Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Rebuilding storage in /var/spool/squid (DIRTY) Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Using Least Load store dir selection Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Set Current Directory to /var/spool/squid Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Loaded Icons. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Accepting proxy HTTP connections at 127.0.0.1, port 4480, FD 21. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Accepting proxy HTTP connections at 192.168.1.242, port 4480, FD 22. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Accepting ICP messages at 0.0.0.0, port 3130, FD 23. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: HTCP Disabled. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: WCCP Disabled. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Ready to serve requests. Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: WARNING: url_rewriter #1 (FD 7) exited Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: WARNING: url_rewriter #2 (FD 8) exited Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: WARNING: url_rewriter #3 (FD 9) exited Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: WARNING: url_rewriter #4 (FD 10) exited Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: Too few url_rewriter processes are running Oct 16 12:19:16 sybrantx_host squid[26174]: The url_rewriter helpers are crashing too rapidly, need help! Thanks Regards MThanigairajan The Most Certain Way To Succeed Is To Try One More Time -- By Edison - Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Hi from padhu
Sir, How are you? are you have 'classic shell scripting' book written by Arnold Robinson in your library? Please give me to read it. i will return with in a month. Nothing else. Take care. Bye. Padhu, Ooty -- Knowledge is power ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hi from padhu
பத்மநாதன் wrote: Sir, How are you? are you have 'classic shell scripting' book written by Arnold Robinson in your library? Please give me to read it. i will return with in a month. Nothing else. Take care. Bye. Padhu, Ooty Eh? Is this a personal mail wrongly sent to the list? If not, kindly forbid from sending these kinda personal looking mails to the list. Thank you. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?
ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: Hi, We do know that most common distros that originates abroad do not include the necessary plugins for playing mp3 by default due to patent issues.. how about the condition as on date in India for distro that is created and circulated within India? Software patents have to be registered on a regional basis unless there are international treaties between countries automatically enforcing them between places. Software patents in general don't seem to be valid in India and even if they are, there is nothing which automatically validates the U.S ones, here. With these assumptions, I have released Omega, a remix of Fedora - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-September/msg00015.html It does support mp3 out of the box (among other codecs). Note however, that once you start distributing a variant, there is nothing controlling redistribution of it outside of India especially if it is out there in the Internet. So the question really would be, would you be held responsible? I wouldn't think so. Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?
Note however, that once you start distributing a variant, there is nothing controlling redistribution of it outside of India especially if it is out there in the Internet. So the question really would be, would you be held responsible? I wouldn't think so. Responsible to what? This is the law of our land, so you don't have anything to tell them even if they come talking to you personally. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?
Sahasranaman MS wrote: Note however, that once you start distributing a variant, there is nothing controlling redistribution of it outside of India especially if it is out there in the Internet. So the question really would be, would you be held responsible? I wouldn't think so. Responsible to what? This is the law of our land, so you don't have anything to tell them even if they come talking to you personally. Held responsible for others infringing on software patents that might be valid in their region. Internet makes the transition from local to international laws, fuzzy. Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux Admin Course
Mr Mohammed , I am in need of a job in Linux administration If you can help me , i will be more thankful to you On 10/16/08, A. MHd. Shaik Abdullah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lugs One of my friend is working in bangalore he want to Join Linux Admin Course. any body know good institute with 100% Practical training around bangalore mail me back Regards ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] SuperTUX Help
Hi, SuperTUX is one of the favorite game of my son. In that, I want to know, How to go the next level? Presently, at end of the level, Tux is going near a wall and after that unable go future. Any tips? Bye :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux Admin Course
Mr Mohammed , I am in need of a job in Linux administration If you can help me , i will be more thankful to you Why cant you take this to offline dicuss with him. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (TAR)
Hai Bharathi I am saravanan . I thoughts i wil appreciate , this method is very useful to linux newbie Kept it up bye --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Bharathi Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bharathi Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (TAR) To: Indian Linux Users Group - Chennai ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 9:24 AM One Day One GNU/Linux Command = tar -- Create/Add/Extract Tape ARchives files. Summary: tar is an archiving program designed to store and extract files from an archive file known as a tar file. A tar file may be made on a tape drive, however, it is also common to write a tar file to a normal file. Normally .tar file is not a compressed files, it is actually a collection of files within a single file. .tar.gz/ .tgz is a collection of files in compressed mode. Example: $ tar -cf myfile.tar mydir -- Create new tar file. $ tar -cvf myfile.tar mydir -- With detail output. $ tar -tvf myfile.tar -- List the content of the tar file. $ tar -uvf myfile.tar mydir -- Update/Append files that are newer than copy in tar. $ tar -xvf myfile.tar -- Extract the tar file. $ tar -xvf myfile.tar dir1/file1 -- Extract only file1 from the tar. $ tar --delete -vf myfile.tar *.doc -- Delete all files with .doc extn from tar file. $ tar --diff -vf myfile.tar mydir -- Differences between archive mydir $ tar -czvf myfile.tgz mydir -- Tar and GZip the files. $ tar -xzvf myfile.tgz -- Extract the tgz file. $ tar -cZvf myfile.tgz mydir -- Tar and compress the files. $ tar -xZvf myfile.tgz -- Extract the tgz file. Read: man tar HTH :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] ip address
how to find server ip in local system using php code?how to display all local system ip address in client mechine using php code? ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu DVD
On 10/16/08, Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi friends... i am interest in install the ubuntu with many softwares in my system.So i want the DVD of the ubuntu 8.04 version.Where i can get the ubuntu dvd.HELP ME. Ubuntu Tamil Team will soon make provisions for it in Tamil Nadu. Till then.. http://www.zyxware.com/articles/2007/09/27/linux/get-ubuntu-dvds-delivered-to-your-doorstep -- ஆமாச்சு ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hi from padhu
Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 01:50:27PM +0530, Parthan SR wrote: are you have 'classic shell scripting' book written by Arnold Robinson in your library? Also, the book is by Arnold Robbins, I presume. He needs a Wren and Martin first, perhaps ;) -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hi from padhu
On Thursday 16 October 2008 01:50:27 pm Parthan SR wrote: Eh? Is this a personal mail wrongly sent to the list? If not, kindly forbid from sending these kinda personal looking mails to the list. Thank you. what is your problem? if you have to book, lend it - otherwise dont discourage him -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hi from padhu
On Thursday 16 October 2008 06:26:43 pm Parthan SR wrote: Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 01:50:27PM +0530, Parthan SR wrote: are you have 'classic shell scripting' book written by Arnold Robinson in your library? Also, the book is by Arnold Robbins, I presume. He needs a Wren and Martin first, perhaps ;) why are you making these personal remarks - if you have any issues with him, please take it offlist -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] SuperTUX Help
Hi, --- On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Bharathi Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Tux is | going near a wall and after that unable go future. Any tips? \-- Press the 'Ctrl' key (fire/run) while you use 'Right arrow key' and 'Spacebar'. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (TAR)
One Day One GNU/Linux Command = tar -- Create/Add/Extract Tape ARchives files. Summary: tar is an archiving program designed to store and extract files from an archive file known as a tar file. A tar file may be made on a tape drive, however, it is also common to write a tar file to a normal file. Normally .tar file is not a compressed files, it is actually a collection of files within a single file. .tar.gz/ .tgz is a collection of files in compressed mode. Example: $ tar -cf myfile.tar mydir -- Create new tar file. $ tar -cvf myfile.tar mydir -- With detail output. $ tar -tvf myfile.tar -- List the content of the tar file. $ tar -uvf myfile.tar mydir -- Update/Append files that are newer than copy in tar. $ tar -xvf myfile.tar -- Extract the tar file. $ tar -xvf myfile.tar dir1/file1 -- Extract only file1 from the tar. $ tar --delete -vf myfile.tar *.doc -- Delete all files with .doc extn from tar file. $ tar --diff -vf myfile.tar mydir -- Differences between archive mydir $ tar -czvf myfile.tgz mydir -- Tar and GZip the files. $ tar -xzvf myfile.tgz -- Extract the tgz file. $ tar -cZvf myfile.tgz mydir -- Tar and compress the files. $ tar -xZvf myfile.tgz -- Extract the tgz file. Read: man tar HTH :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Re: [JOB][OT][Commericial] Job opening for fresher 2008 passed ou
Hi, --- On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:23 PM, K.C. Ramakrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I am from Hyderabad. I find ilugc much more active and useful than ilughyd. Please keep it that way. \-- Would rknowsys, Hyderabad be willing to host a user-group meet? http://www.ilughyd.org.in/ --- | I personally know of a lot of firms in Hyd which offer jobs by taking | 'non-refundable deposits'. \-- Because the general mentality of the people is buy.degree-get.job-go.onsite-get.green_card-settle.abroad. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (TAR)
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Bharathi Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One Day One GNU/Linux Command = tar -- Create/Add/Extract Tape ARchives files. A worthy addition is tar -xjvf file.tar.bz2 This is used for extracting bziped tarred files ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ip address
how to find server ip in local system using php code?how to display all local system ip address in client mechine using php code? ?php echo $_SERVER['SERVER_ADDR']; ? $_SERVER is a reserved server variable ref: http://in.php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php cheers Ravi jaya ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hi from padhu
On 19:10:20 Oct 16, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Sadly, we focus so much on correct usage of a foreign language, English, than something which was, supposedly, native to India -- brotherhood! Many people around here cannot write the spelling of my name properly. They spell it as Grish. I wonder how they can miss the 'i'. In fact some of my friends don't even have the desire to learn English. Whether or not it is a foreign language is secondary. It is the lingua franca of the world for better or worse. If we are to do anything significant in the business world English is inevitable. I have at the same time met quite a lot of technically competent people and hard working individuals who don't have language skills to match. -Girish ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hi from padhu
Hi, My thoughts below: --- On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | While I do agree that command on English is important in the 'globalised' | world, but should we make it butt of jokes? Should the lack of better | language skill be an obstacle in learning a technology? \-- To be precise, it is essential to have functional English [1] (reading, and comprehension skills), which is the reason why one finds plenty of FOSS development in Europe, inspite of they being non-native speakers of English (except Britain). Bad grammar can be ignored, but, atleast do a spell-check! Unfortunately, in India, people give more emphasis on accent and pronunciation (spoken English), rather than reading comprehension skills. SK [1] Slide #19. Language. http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ip address
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Ravi Jaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how to find server ip in local system using php code?how to display all local system ip address in client mechine using php code? ?php echo $_SERVER['SERVER_ADDR']; ? $_SERVER is a reserved server variable Not sure if that's what the OP is looking for... You'll have to parse the output of ifconfig(8) and get what you need. - Raja ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
I trust most of the friends are aware of this. There has been a lot of doubts over using Ubuntu on servers. But recently Wikimedia and Internet Achieve have started to migrate to Ubuntu servers. I guess this will build confidence in those who want to use Ubuntu on servers. Regards -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?
Rahul: Internet makes the transition from local to international laws, fuzzy. Could you please explain this. On 10/16/08, Rahul Sundaram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sahasranaman MS wrote: Note however, that once you start distributing a variant, there is nothing controlling redistribution of it outside of India especially if it is out there in the Internet. So the question really would be, would you be held responsible? I wouldn't think so. Responsible to what? This is the law of our land, so you don't have anything to tell them even if they come talking to you personally. Held responsible for others infringing on software patents that might be valid in their region. Internet makes the transition from local to international laws, fuzzy. Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Esse quam videri ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?
kish wrote: Rahul: Internet makes the transition from local to international laws, fuzzy. Could you please explain this. A few practical examples: Debian includes a mp3 decoder in main. For a non-profit (even though it is established in US), there isn't much of a risk. The most you can do is filing a suit and if you win, stop the distribution of it from that point onwards. Usually can't claim much damages if any. Mandriva (organization based on France where software patents are invalid) includes mp3 codecs. However recently, you have the alternative to get paid codecs from Fluendo via them. This is because they need to license the patents to do this to be able to target the US market in a legal way. Ubuntu (Canonical is a based on Isle of man, Europe). They do not include mp3 codecs out of the box but point to (non-patent licensed free) codecs with a warning that this is legally ambiguous. You have the option of buying paid codecs from Canonical similar to Mandriva. LinuxMint, a volunteer derivative distribution of Ubuntu includes all the codecs out of the box and has become more popular these days for that reason. Canonical as a commercial organization won't take this risk. Fedora (Red Hat is based in US) does not include nor point to the free codecs. Neither does OpenSUSE for similar reasons. References: http://lwn.net/Articles/230042/ http://lwn.net/Articles/300829/ http://ostatic.com/173388-blog/canonical-opens-codec-sales-and-potential-can-of-worms http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/25939 --- There a few questions that determine the potential course of action: * Are you a commercial organization or a non-profit or volunteer community? If you are doing it without commercial backing, there is pretty much no risk since patent holders won't consider it worth their time or money to pursue you. * Are you based on a region where software patents are valid like US or not valid like France or India? * Are you trying to distribute directly only outside of areas where software patents are valid or are you trying to sell to US markets? If you are targeting only specific regions like India where software patents are invalid, again there is no direct risk to you. In summary, Internet makes pretty much anything you distribute a potentially global product but as long as you don't indulge in commercial trade to areas where software patents are enforced actively and infringe on them, the legal risk, if low to none. The laws are misguided in various places. There is no right solution to that problem except fighting to get rid of software patents and make sure, India doesn't end up in the same bad situation. Rahul ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] mp3 in a distro from India?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Mandriva (organization based on France where software patents are invalid) includes mp3 codecs. However recently, you have the alternative to get paid codecs from Fluendo via them. This is because they need to license the patents to do this to be able to target the US market in a legal way. While not directly related to this conversation, thought I'd point out that things have got a bit sticky in France as well recently. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I trust most of the friends are aware of this. There has been a lot of doubts over using Ubuntu on servers. But recently Wikimedia and Internet Achieve have started to migrate to Ubuntu servers. I guess this will build confidence in those who want to use Ubuntu on servers. Will this be affecting Red Hat and its derivatives? I had just decided to move to CentOS and started downloading when I saw this. ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] SuperTUX Help
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Bharathi Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, SuperTUX is one of the favorite game of my son. In that, I want to Thanks for the pointer. I am loving it too :-) Regards, Aanjhan ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
Will this be affecting Red Hat and its derivatives? I had just decided to move to CentOS and started downloading when I saw this. ___ I trust Wiki migrated from Red Hat to Ubuntu and CentOS's updates are a bit delayed (please correct me). Its high time to give Ubuntu a try, I guess. Experts on the list may tell better. I am just a journo ;-) Swapnil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
On Thursday 16 October 2008 09:33:23 pm Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I trust most of the friends are aware of this. There has been a lot of doubts over using Ubuntu on servers. But recently Wikimedia and Internet Achieve have started to migrate to Ubuntu servers. I guess this will build confidence in those who want to use Ubuntu on servers. and what exactly is the justification for a crosspost here? Cross post should only be used for an anouncement of general interest, like release of a new version of software or an event, or job advertisement. The above is none of these things. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
and what exactly is the justification for a crosspost here? Cross post should only be used for an anouncement of general interest, like release of a new version of software or an event, or job advertisement. The above is none of these things. -- regards KG Kenneth Ji, The message was posted to several other LUGs as well. So, the understand of cross posting that I had -- if you are posting same message to other lists -- I marked it as such. Please correct me if I am wrong so that I may not repeat the same in future. Swapnil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Clarification on Distros
Hi, I would like to have clarity on what the real difference is between different Linux Distros. What exactly makes one better than the other. Do the distros have differences at the kernel level itself. Is it only the applications packages that are included that make the difference. How does one distro be more secure and/or robust than the other. Is it that the codes used for applications (iptables, apache etc etc) is different. Are distros like Debian more secure only because they have fewer/no GUI apps. I hope I could explain what I am looking for. Would request your advise on this. Regards, Ashish ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Clarification on Distros
Dear Ashish, On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Ashish Verma wrote: I would like to have clarity on what the real difference is between different Linux Distros. What exactly makes one better than the other. On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Ashish Verma wrote: In addition, ppl say UNIX is more secure and robust than linux. Messages such as the above are typically called trolls. In other words these are meant to start a heated discussion which ultimately amounts to little. A better way to frame your question would be something like. I am trying to do X. Which is a suitable way to do X? Is there a specialised distro to do X? Will other *nix be more suitable to do X instead of Linux? Here X could be something like: Create a secure web server Learn about server security ... Of course, since this is iLugc where L is for Linux, it is likely that the answer to the last question will be No! except from Girish! :-) Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
On Friday 17 October 2008 07:22:59 am Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Kenneth Ji, The message was posted to several other LUGs as well. So, the understand of cross posting that I had -- if you are posting same message to other lists -- I marked it as such. Please correct me if I am wrong so that I may not repeat the same in future. whether you mark it as cross post or not is irrelevant - crosspost should only be used in the circumstances I mentioned in my reply. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Clarification on Distros
2008/10/16 Ashish Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would like to have clarity on what the real difference is between different Linux Distros. What exactly makes one better than the other. 1) Most of the distributions have a targeted audience and try to make the distro usable to that target audience without much changes to default install. For example many are general purpose distributions that cater to normal desktop/laptop and server like Debian, Fedora ... Some are for a particular audience like dynabolic for multimedia. 2) Another one is installation, configuration and maintainability Debian and many of the distributions use apt based tools, Fedora and many others use yum, gentoo has emerge and others have different methods. 3) Stability depends on how much testing is done before a package is included. Some have very strict rules before they include a package, some does not have any. For example Debian needs the package to be in unstable section for a specified time (depending on priority), then remain in testing and have all its important bugs fixed before it can go to stable release. Do the distros have differences at the kernel level itself. The version of the kernel differs. Some have older kernel, but well tested. Some have bleeding edge kernel with latest drivers. Is it only the applications packages that are included that make the difference. The number of applications ready to install also does matter. Debian lenny fits in 34 CDs/5 DVDs with official support. How does one distro be more secure and/or robust than the other. Is it that The policies for inclusion and time taken for testing. the codes used for applications (iptables, apache etc etc) is different. Some of the options selected by default differ. Are distros like Debian more secure only because they have fewer/no GUI apps. Depends on the strict policy and adherence to it. Also the time and number of people testing it. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Clarification on Distros
Hi Kapil, I asked that not with intention to start any heated discussion or argument. I did not even mean to say anything is better than the other. It was for purpose of my knowledge. Since these things generally come up when a grp of guys are discussing, it arises such questions. I only request for inputs rather than raising conflicts. Any distro/os may be better than each other. However since Linux and Unix are the one's with similar structure, I had this doubt. Regards, Ashish ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: Clarification on Distros
On 19:21:38 Oct 16, Ashish Verma wrote: In addition, ppl say UNIX is more secure and robust than linux. On what basis is this said. Is this again related to the code used in various apps used in UNIX. If two servers, 1 UNIX, 1LINUX are being used to host web server. Where does one score over the other. In every case. ;) The argument goes like this. Windoze supports a lot of applications and is apparently very user friendly. Or rather idiot friendly to be precise. Linux comes second. UNIX does not support as many apps as linux but is more robust and certainly better. So it goes without saying that if you want the greatest app that is the talk of the town, then it will take a while to get that for UNIX. For instance firefox browser under OpenBSD still does not support flash. There are few websites that have videos or flash animations that won't work under OpenBSD. The main reason people do not understand the superiority of UNIX over linux is that they do not know how to read kernel C code... Thanks. -Girish ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] new LUG in Bengaluru
hi, for those luggies who are in Bengaluru: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-bengaluru/ -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [Cross Post] Ubuntu Getting Strong On Servers?
whether you mark it as cross post or not is irrelevant - crosspost should only be used in the circumstances I mentioned in my reply. -- regards KG Thanks for making that clear for me. I will keep that in mind in future. Thanks again. Regards Swapnil ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (ZIP)
One Day One GNU/Linux Command = zip -- Package and Compress files in Zip format. Summary: zip is a compression and file packaging utility. The zip program puts one or more compressed files into a single zip archive, along with information about the files. Example: $ zip stuff * -- Create stuff.zip, add current Dir files in it. $ zip -r myzip mydir -- Create myzip.zip, add mydir files in it. $ zip -j myzip mydir/* -- Same as above. But mydir name will not be recorded. $ zip -rm myzip mydir -- Delete the original files after zipping. $ zip -r myzip mdir -x \*~ -- Exclude all files that end in ~. $ zip -u stuff * -- If myzip.zip is already exist then, update new and modified files from the current Dir. $ zip -R foo '*.c' -- Travel the Dirs recursively starting at the current directory and zip all C files. $ zip -n .Z:.zip:.tiff:.gif:.snd myzip * -- Create myzip.zip file, add files from current Dir and Don't try compress the specified files. $ zip -rt 2005-06-06 myzip mydir -- Zip all the files in foo and its subdirs that were last modified on or AFTER 06-06-2005. $ zip -rtt 2005-06-06 myzip mydir -- Zip all the files in foo and its subdirs that were last modified BEFORE 06-06-2005. Read: man zip (Lot of examples are available) HTH :) -- Bharathi S ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] jQuery documentation
jQuery, a masterful piece of human genius in web design was covered in a small way in my Dec ilugc talk at IITM. But I feel quite bad that I could not do proper justice to it. You can read this documentation and bookmark it for the future. http://jquery.bassistance.de/api-browser-1.2/ Javascript is an exceptionally powerful language that forces you to learn a lot of new idioms in programming. It also necessitates you to think in new says and is a paradigm shift from the traditional C programming model in which everything follows from top to bottom. Anyway now coming back to jQuery(http://www.jquery.com), jQuery makes js programming real fun. It has all the economy of expression that has traditionally been C's stronghold and also the power and flexibility of the web environment. The web as a medium and browser as the killer app of the future cannot be overemphasized. And jQuery forms a very important link in the chain should you be concerned with user interface in any way. More contributions from my side will follow later. I also take this opportunity to announce a one day web programming workshop. This will be at a later point in time maybe December. Thanks. -Girish ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: Hi from padhu
Dear LUGs, Unfortunately my personal mail listed out in ILUGC. I am sorry for this. Just leave it. Padhu, Ooty. -- Knowledge is power ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
