Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பத ிப்பாக ்கப் பட்டறை

2009-03-05 Thread இராமதாசன்
On வி, 2009-03-05 at 13:10 +0530, Mano wrote:
 இந்த அஞ்சல் வரிசையில் எல்லோரும் கல்ந்தாலோசித்து முடிவு செய்ததுதான்
 சப்ஜெக்டில் 'Tamil' என்று இணைக்க வேண்டும் என்ற வறைமுறை. அந்த வறைமுறை
 உங்களுக்கு பிடிக்கவில்லையென்றாலும் பெரும்பான்மையின் கருத்துக்கு
 மதிப்பளித்து உடன்படுவதுதான் ஜனனாயக முறை.  இந்த சிறிய வறைமுறையை நீங்கள்
 கடைபிடிக்க பிடிவாதமாக‌ மறுப்பது 'இயல்பாக' எனக்கு படவில்லை.
 விகாரமாகத்தான் தோண்றுகிரது.
 

இதில் நடைமுறை சிக்கல் இருக்கு. 

முடியாதுன்னு பிடிவாதமெல்லாம் இல்லை. போற அவசரத்துல இருக்கற வேலைக்கு
மத்தியில நடந்த நிகழ்ச்சி பலருக்கு அறியத் தரணும்னு எழுதறேன்.. யாரையும்
வற்புறுத்தல.. 

ஒரே மடலை சில சமயங்களில் freetamilcomputing, ilugc, ubuntu-l10n-tam,
mintamil, kanimozhi, foss4mylang, ubuntu-tam இப்படி பலக் குழுக்களுக்கு
அனுப்ப வேண்டிருக்கு..

நான் மொழிபெயர்க்க மாட்டேன் என்றும் சொல்லலை.. எப்பவும் அப்படி நேரம்
அமைவது இல்லை. உதவறவங்களுக்கு நன்றி. 

நேரமின்மை... just that i am unable to take it up as rule/ standard.. 

என்னால முடிஞ்ச போது செய்யறேன். முடியாத போது பொறுத்துக்
கொள்ளவும்..யாராச்சும் உதவவும்..

இப்போ கூட வேற வேலையாய் போக வேண்டியிருக்கு.. மொழி பெயர்ப்பது.. நாலு பத்தி
சட்டுன்னு எழுதிட்டேன்.. 

//உங்கள் கருத்துக்கள் தமிழ் கூறும் நல்லுலகிற்கு மட்டுமின்றி
மற்றவர்களுக்கும் சென்றடைய வேண்டும் என்ற ஆதங்கத்தில் பேசினேன். 
இதனால் நஷ்டபடுவது
நீங்கள்தான்.//

I understand your point.. Thank you..

Where ever I can I will do.. Time, work, connectivity other constraints
are there.. thats it...

Thank you again..

my last mail on this topic forever..

---

ஆமாச்சு













 உங்கள் கருத்துக்கள் தமிழ் கூறும் நல்லுலகிற்கு மட்டுமின்றி
 மற்றவர்களுக்கும் சென்றடைய வேண்டும் என்ற ஆதங்கத்தில் பேசினேன். ஆனால்
 நீங்களோ, 'எனது கருத்துக்களை அறிய விரும்பும் மற்றவர்கள் வேன்டுமானால்
 தமிழ்
 கற்றுகொள்ளட்டும்' என்ற நிலைப்பாட்டில் உள்ளீர்கள்!  'எனது கருத்துக்களை
 கேட்க யாரேனும் உள்ளார்களா?' என்று ஆவலுடன் எல்லோரும் எதிபார்க்கும்
 காலகட்டத்தில் உங்கள் நிலைபாடு விந்தையாக உள்ளது! இதனால் நஷ்டபடுவது
 நீங்கள்தான்.
 
 மனோ
 
 
 Translation:
 
 Mr. Ramdas,
 
 After much discussion in this list it was agreed that the word 'TAMIL'
 would be appended in the subject, if the post was in Tamil. Even if
 you do not accept that as the right solution, it is expected that you
 will follow it. Thats the democratic way! Your stubborn refusal to do
 so cannot be construed as 'natural'. To me it only seems
 subversive/defiant.
 
 I was trying to convince you that your views should reach as many
 people as possible. But you are of the opinion that those who want to
 know your views should learn tamil! In a world where everyone is
 eagerly looking for people who will give them their attention, your
 attitude is strange. The loss is yours.
 
 mano
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Re: [Ilugc] Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX

2009-03-05 Thread S.Selvam Siva
 Where can I download the Centralized Tamil Spell checker for GNU/LINUX ?
 Plz somebody post the link.

 Kandaswamy



http://launchpad.net/~tamilspellchecker is the link to our project.

As of now only 30,000 words are there .I am yet to push the latest code
which contains 4.8 lakh words (whose size is around 20 MB) to launchpad
project repository ,as i am accessing internet using my mobile GPRS .So i
can not upload the latest code and corpus collection.Please wait for a while
to get the latest code.

-- 
Yours,
S.Selvam
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Re: [Ilugc] FOSSConf09 pictures

2009-03-05 Thread pavithran
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Senthil Kumaran S style...@gmail.comwrote:

 pavithran wrote:
  I can also install gallery2 on some other place if you want . We can
  then
  customise the album template to have fossconf logo :) ( pure foss style )
  Any other suggestions?

 Please do it. You can get the entire collection of pics here -
 http://www.stylesen.org/fosscon09_pics.tar.gz

Thank you ,it made things easy :)


 Once you are done with it, post the url, so that I can link it from
 http://fossconf.in/content/fossconf09-pictures

 -

Done ! Please link up to http://pavithran.org/fossconf/
Any comments on template and logo ( some one resize fossconf logo to 107 X
58 ) would be appreciated .
Regards,
pavithran
-- 
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www.pavithran.org
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Re: [Ilugc] FOSSConf09 pictures

2009-03-05 Thread pavithran
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Senthil Kumaran S style...@gmail.comwrote:



 Done :)

 Cool I really like the way it was done , instead of flaming each other that
this is not FOSS , that thing was not using FOSS we really made the gallery
FOSS !
Thanks senthil , it would not have been possible if you hadn't helped so
quickly  :)
Regards,
pavithran
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www.pavithran.org
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Re: [Ilugc] FOSSConf09 pictures

2009-03-05 Thread Senthil Kumaran S
pavithran wrote:
 Done ! Please link up to http://pavithran.org/fossconf/

Done :)

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http://www.stylesen.org/
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[Ilugc] DEBIAN 5.0

2009-03-05 Thread Kannan
hi friends
  i am installed the DEBIAN 5.0 LENNY Edition in my system.
but it only works on command mode.it does not boot into the GUI mode.i am
not expert in terminal.
so help me to enter into GUI mode.

-- 
With regards,
Kannan. R. P,
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Re: [Ilugc] DEBIAN 5.0

2009-03-05 Thread Ravi Jaya
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Kannan kanna...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi friends
  i am installed the DEBIAN 5.0 LENNY Edition in my system.
 but it only works on command mode.it does not boot into the GUI mode.i am
 not expert in terminal.
 so help me to enter into GUI mode.

 hello,

i had seen most of the fresh men failed to select X while they install Linux
for the very first time, I belive it might be the cause in your case too.

Please get into terminal type 'tasksel' from the popup installer select the
X - window system and enjoy the Happy Linux after  the installation.

cheers

RJ
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[Ilugc] Re:new user in quest of linux coding

2009-03-05 Thread suresh dandiboina
Hi..
This Suresh
I want to start linux from scratch ...
I didn't hav anyone to help..
I know c,c++,shell scripting,patches(some ...in  the sense creating,using
diff,patching it ,viewing make file.)
could u plz help me in ..
How to start ?
whom to go for help?
Which books to read to know al these?
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[Ilugc] Re: OSI Tech Days 09 gives Chennai LUG a chance to showcase itself

2009-03-05 Thread Sayantan Pal
Hello,

As I understand, quite a few people from the Chennai LUG are interested
to set up a booth during OSI Tech Days http://www.osidays.com. Just
writing this email to enquire if you guys have finally come to a decision.

Moreover, if you still want some information regarding free booths for
ILUGC, kindly visit http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=7

Regards,
Sayantan.

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[Ilugc] Reminder for those who did not get OSI passes

2009-03-05 Thread Sayantan Pal
Hi,

Just an email reminder for all those who have already registered for OSI
Days in Chennai (March 12-14) but still haven't received their passes or
confirmation emails from us. Kindly let us know about the same and we
shall get back to you asap.

You can email us at sayantan dot pal at efyindia dot com.

Regards,
Sayantan.

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Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பா ஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக ்கப் பட்டறை

2009-03-05 Thread deva free
mano wrote:
After much discussion in this list it was agreed that the word 'TAMIL'
would be appended in the subject, if the post was in Tamil. 

Hello,

Would this apply to replies also? I think you have omitted the word TAMIL in 
your reply. And so have I :), as there isnt a Tamil word in this reply.

I think its a reasonable rule, that can be followed by everyone with no 
difficulty at all.

That being said, I express my appreciation for those working for 
regionalization and migration of Linux / FOSS to vernacular languages. I think 
it is a very important contribution.

Regards

Mahadevan




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Re: [Ilugc] Re: OSI Tech Days 09 gives Chennai LUG a chance to showcase itself

2009-03-05 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Sayantan Pal wrote:

 As I understand, quite a few people from the Chennai LUG are interested 
 to set up a booth during OSI Tech Days http://www.osidays.com. Just 
 writing this email to enquire if you guys have finally come to a decision.

As of now, we have 4 volunteers for the stall. Plz provide us a stall
and put-it next to the open-street map project stall. 

We need another 4 volunteers on half day basics to manage the stall. 
Anyone interested, plz mail back to me.

Bye :)
-- 
Bharathi S

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[Ilugc] Re:new user in quest of linux coding

2009-03-05 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, suresh dandiboina wrote:

 I want to start linux from scratch ...

Goto http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

Bye :)
-- 
Bharathi S

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Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Monday 02 March 2009 21:12:38 Raman.P wrote:
  The topic has been changed, But for your kind information
  please see this
  thread from KG,
  http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-March/046701.html

 That is different calling for suggestion. Well I have given many already to
 him, even during fossconf-09.

you did not give any ideas when we met
-- 
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kg
http://lawgon.livejournal.com
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Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

2009-03-05 Thread Vikram Vincent
 Your are forgetting very important point i.e NRCFOSS.
 It is National Resource Centre for Free and Open Source Software
 paid out of taxpayers money, to promote FOSS not individuals.
 It is acceptable even if an ILUGC volunteer has done it, because
 it is only voluntary. Whereas anything from NRCFOSS has a duty I repeat
 DUTY to promote FOSS, not just interest in technical subject.

 why?

Because it says so...
National Resource Centre for Free/Open Source Software (NRCFOSS) aims
to contribute to the growth of FOSS in India through Research and
Development, Human Resource Development, Networking and
Entrepreneurship Development, as well as serve as the reference point
for all FOSS related activities in the country including the creation
and maintenance of this national FOSS Portal.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re:new user in quest of linux coding

2009-03-05 Thread Ashok Gautham

 I want to start linux from scratch ...

You could have meant
1) The distro(or absence of it) Linux from Scratch which is what Mr Bharathi
pointed
you to.

2) The Linux kernel from scratch: For this, have a look at:
- http://www.makelinux.net/kernel_map to help you learn basic dependencies
- http://kernelnewbies.org/ to be a guide throughout your journey
- http://lxr.linux.no/ Use an offline version of the kernel source from
kernel.org and
ctags or something like it in gvim/emacs. This can however serve as a quick
ref.
- http://darwish-07.blogspot.com/2008/02/howto-lxrng-on-ubuntu-710.html can
help
you set up an offline lxr.
- Misc:
-- I also found linux 0.01 source as a useful starter
http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Dusting_Off_the_0.01_Kernel
-- The xinu kernel is also good to read.
http://www.dmi.unict.it/~pappalar/lab3/xinuhome.html

3) You might have meant using linux/learning the stuff you said you know (
wanted to know?)
C is learnt from real code. You have plenty of it. Learn NCurses
C++ can be learnt from Bruce Eckel. Learn the standard C++ and not conio.h
C++ without namespaces. Learn the STL
http://www2.roguewave.com/support/docs/sourcepro/edition9/html/stdlibref/index.html
Try using the boost library too
Shell Scripting: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
Makefiles http://www.makelinux.net/books/autobook-1.5/autobook.html
Finally learn perl/python/lua/ruby (For scripting ofcourse. But this can
come later)
and a GUI toolkit. gtkmm or wx...

People to approach for help
- This channel
- Your distro channel for Linux e.g. #fedora or #archlinux on
irc.freenode.net
- The C and C++ channels on Freenode ##C++ (Note, do your homework. People
in this channel often give people rtfms)
- Other channels #ruby-lang #python
- People you meet at the lug meets every first saturday of the month

---
Ashok `ScriptDevil` Gautham
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[Ilugc] how to upgrade openoffice2

2009-03-05 Thread senthil kumar
   could anybody help me   how to upgrade openoffice2.0 to openoffice3.0
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Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

2009-03-05 Thread Read Me Back :)
To Mr. Ramadoss,

I am working in a company where people from all corners(read people from
North and West of India, primarily) work. I have seen Hindi-speaking people
getting frustrated all the while since the native people start the
conversation in English, but gravitate to Tamil - which is completely alien
to them.  They feel let out, feel unwanted in the group - this is the seed
for the growing resentment against us.  I am not going to ponder the reason
why we have this situation - this is not the appropriate group. Long story
short - English remains our(read Tamil Nadu) link language to the rest of
the world.

If you wanna talk in Tamil, please create a group of your own and have your
conversation. But - please do have the courtesy to have the conversation in
English. Is this so difficult?

-- 
Thanks,
Read me back (RMB).
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Re: [Ilugc] how to upgrade openoffice2

2009-03-05 Thread Arun Khan
On Thursday 05 Mar 2009, senthil kumar wrote:
could anybody help me   how to upgrade openoffice2.0 to
 openoffice3.0

Which distribution and version?

Was OOo2 installed as part of the OS install i.e. native packages 
included in the OS *or* did you install it from the tar balls?

If packages are from the OS then use then see if that version is 
offering upgrades.  Alternately, uninstall OOo2 and install OOo3.

-- 
Arun Khan

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Re: [Ilugc] Grub Booting Problem

2009-03-05 Thread Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक]
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Shahrukh Khan shahrukh1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Abhishek Amberkar [अभिषेक] 
 abhishek.amber...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Shahrukh Khan shahrukh1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Well.. You can try mapping hard disks. So it appears to Windows
  like it is on a primary!
 
 
 
 http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub#Dual_booting_with_Windows_on_another_hard_disk
 
 
  Well i tried mapping hard disk in the link given but i get the error as
  Error 22: Unknown Partition So any other suggestions please.

 Mapping will not work since you have only one hard disk.

 title Windows XP Professional
 rootnoverify (hd0,4)
 savedefault
 makeactive
 chainloader +1

 Check out rootnoverify. This should work.

 Nop i tried rootnoverify but that also doesnt seem to help as error message
 is displayed.

Try booting manually from grub prompt.


-- 
With Regards
Abhishek Amberkar

Learn to appreciate a beauty within...
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Re: [Ilugc] FOSSConf09 pictures

2009-03-05 Thread Read Me Back :)
A request, could you please publish who's who in the photographs? Atleast
for a handful of important photographs this should do ...
-- 
Thanks,
Read me back (RMB).
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Re: [Ilugc] FOSSConf09 pictures

2009-03-05 Thread pavithran
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Read Me Back :) xunil.nih...@gmail.comwrote:

 A request, could you please publish who's who in the photographs? Atleast
 for a handful of important photographs this should do ...


@senthil or anyone who attended the Meet . Mail me off the list I will
create a account , so that you could add names,details and tags for the
pictures !!

Regards,
Pavithran
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www.pavithran.org
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Re: [Ilugc] annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.html

2009-03-05 Thread pavithran
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Vikram Vincent vincentvik...@gmail.comwrote:



  and the FOSS community in Karnataka was in
  disarray. Now a strong FOSS community has emerged and

 I think that you should not come to these conclusions just from your
 interactions with a
 couple of people on online groups and/or by attending the recent
 meeting at Bangalore.
 The Free Software Movement or FOSS movement in Karnataka has been
 making a lot of
 progress and much before my tenure at NRCFOSS.


Yes I agree with vikram , the free software movement in karnataka was strong
and was one of the major driving force for me to embrace free software .
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1892949130354331450
This video in kannada will say more ;)

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[Ilugc] Yum Repos

2009-03-05 Thread Ashish Verma
Hi,

Please suggest some yum repos. rpms like below will be very helpful.

http://rpm.livna.org/livna-release.rpm for livna repo.
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpmfor
rpm-fusion

Are there others like these.

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Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

2009-03-05 Thread Nallu Ignacius
Hi,

This mail is intended to clear this issue out of our list(may be we can lay
an example for such lists that have language diversity issues - rather than
suppressing one group of people) and not bring in new fights.

One good example is  Linux users groups in France  that are giving more
importance to their native language - French(minimum English and maximum
French)
http://www.linux.org/groups/france.html
We can't apply the same directly to Indian Linux users Groups  as such
because we have more than 20 official languages(think so). But, the official
languages of the region in which the LUG is operating can be allowed to be
used in it.

Is this the scenario where  some one suddenly comes here and asks not to use
English in this list and use Thamizh instead of English.  If someone did say
that then they can be treated differently. But, People are questioned
inappropriately just because their  post  is in Thamizh. In despair they
reciprocate with some content that leads to a 50 post thread.

We(all) can comment each other easily and find/get some short term enjoyment
out of it.  This thread won't stop and if it stops it is a small pause for
another storm of messages in a similar thread where someone write in
Thamizh.

Let us put a final and strong stop for these threads(selection of
communication language) with correct rectifications in mail list rules.
List administrator can decide upon this(He can have a online meeting or
offline meeting with list members) and send a final mail containing list of
change to be made in our list with respect to different languages in posts.

The delay between my last post and this one is due to some digging work done
in earlier threads of same offensive nature.

*We would be able to conclude considering the two factors that caused this
issue :*

   1. A General Classification of people here as members and will be as
members in future(This categorization is not for segregation of any kind it
is just for the sake of grouping people based on the languages they know 
where they reside.)
   2. Ideology of people under each category.


*Let me categorize the people who have posted here or a member of our list(*
* based on member types in ideology perspective**):*

   1. One who knows Thamizh well - ie.,  proficient in reading and writing
(even if his mother tongue may or may not be  Thamizh ; His mother tongue
could be one among the 22 languages or so; He could have been in Chennai/any
Thamizh speaking community in a certain period of time  learnt it with love
towards it) but is not familiar with English( he may or may not have the
willingness to learn and use English) or can't read  write in English as of
now.
   2. One who is proficient in Thamizh and English or at least who knows to
read and write in both languages  able to contribute in the translation
effort here(translation of threads).
   3. One who knows only English(   ~Thamizh).


*Reasons favoring people in category 1:*

   1. He/She should be given chance here to interact freely in Thamizh.(
This list describes itself as Indian Linux Users Group - Chennai), Chennai
is the capital of Tamilnadu. Most people here would be from tamilnadu(
ofcouse it has global members - but they have their own regional groups -
almost all major cities in India and cities/towns/villages around the
World). People  stated that there can be TLUGC(Tamil Linux Users Group
Chennai) then this list should have been ELUGC(English Linux Users Group
Chennai). I am not mocking anyone nor the list but to bring out that such
things are not actual solutions for this thread(It kindles new arguments).
 1. Many members of ILUGC are here because they were/are residing in
chennai for a period of time(past or present).
 2.  And a considerable amount of  people here are the residents of
Tamil Nadu(a major portion of whom may not know English but can/will turn
out to be great contibutors of Linux/Opensource/Free Softwares not only in
Translation  but programming,testing, designing, concepts, etc.,).
   2. My view is  - He/She  should be allowed to post in the regional
language without separate rules while posting(India's constitution acts
state that each Non-Hindi  state has the right to practise/use its regional
language and English. In non-Hindi states it would be Hindi instead of
English - not another cold war from here  )
   3. Based on the Indian Constitution acts and rights we have this
situation where at least a single person (will be)/(is ) a member of this
list who may not use English in his/her workplace or education system or
home - in such case even if he would have learnt English it would have
diminished in due course of time - Category 2 3  people need English in
some or one of the three reasons so we are able to keep English in out
mind.   Non-Hindi states - states where Hindi is not a mandatory language
can use/practise their regional language along with English.  Even central
government activities/transaction/business can be 

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

2009-03-05 Thread Roshan Mathews
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Nallu Ignacius nallu.ignac...@gmail.com wrote:
 This mail is intended to clear this issue out of our list(may be we can lay
 an example for such lists that have language diversity issues - rather than
 suppressing one group of people) and not bring in new fights.

Just in case anyone is wondering, that was 1945 words.  Thanks.

Regards,
Roshan
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Re: [Ilugc] Re:new user in quest of linux coding

2009-03-05 Thread Ashok Gautham
I had that on an old subdomain at hostrator. Their subdomains
started to really suck. However links on shakti's site
http://www.shakthimaan.com/
and on http://www.makelinux.net/resources are some of the links
I am frequenting of late.
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Re: [Ilugc] Yum Repos

2009-03-05 Thread Ashok Gautham
Use the SIGs.

Most common apps can be found on the official Fedora repos. rpmfusion
can be used for non-free and at times, rarely used rpms...
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs is used for special needs

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Fedora Ambassador
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[Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-05 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

Part of doing FOSS is to learn to *communicate* --- as a writer *and*
as a reader.

While writing, one should make one's best attempt to say things as
clearly, logically and briefly as possible. Punctuation and formatting
are important as well. The writer should be trying to reach the
reader.

As readers, we should make an effort to try and understand what is
being said. In particular, this means that we should forgive all
errors of the above type---if we can get the meaning. The reader
should be trying to read the mind of the writer.

In both cases, we need to spend more *time* to read and to write. The
writer should use the save as draft key until you have time to put
in the effort. The reader should use the next key until you have the
time to read carefully.

In brief, if you don't have anything to say, don't say it, if you
don't like what is written just ignore/delete it.

Instead of spending so much energy on deciding which *language* we
can communicate in, we should spend some time on communicating!

Regards,

Kapil.
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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-05 Thread Parthan SR

Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:

In brief, if you don't have anything to say, don't say it, if you
don't like what is written just ignore/delete it.

Instead of spending so much energy on deciding which *language* we
can communicate in, we should spend some time on communicating!
  
And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to 
read it through ;-)


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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-05 Thread Zico
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.comwrote:

 And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to read
 it through ;-)


haha :D

Come on!!! ;)


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[Ilugc] [OSI Tech Days 09]

2009-03-05 Thread Sayantan Pal
Dear all,

As a part of the Open Source India team, I'd like to thank you all for
being a part of OSI Tech Days 2009 and registering for the event in
large numbers. However, this email is a reminder to all those who still
haven't gotten themselves registered for the event. As of writing this
email, there are only 17 SILVER passes (free) left for the grabs. So, if
you had missed our previous messages or had postponed registration, this
is your time! By the way, do not forget, do get yourself registered with
'ILUGC' as the promotion code to be eligible for the lucky draw that
gets you upgraded to a Platinum pass! :-) The official page of
registration is http://www.osidays.com/users/delegate09.php

Other highlights of OSI Tech Days 2009 -

* Free promotion booths for Indian LUGs at OSI Tech Days 2009 -
http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=7
* Chennai Tweetup, March 12, Beer on the house! -
http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=12
* 'Movers  Shakers' award with prizes worth 5 Grands! -
http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=19

Shall be looking forward to meet you all at Chennai.

Regards,
Sayantan.

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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-05 Thread Santosh

Parthan SR wrote:
And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to 
read it through ;-)




People who really care do. If you don't read it, you don't have to say it out 
here. He has taken the initiative to do some ground work on what is what and how 
 can these be solved, you don't have to appreciate, but can keep from 
dishonouring/disrespecting/(or whatever you call it) these initiatives.



Santosh
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[Ilugc] FOSS competency certification

2009-03-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi,

NRC-FOSS announces FOSS competency certification. Details here:

http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/full/63/AN/
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Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists

2009-03-05 Thread Parthan SR

Santosh wrote:

Parthan SR wrote:
And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going 
to read it through ;-)




People who really care do. If you don't read it, you don't have to say 
it out here. He has taken the initiative to do some ground work on 
what is what and how  can these be solved, you don't have to 
appreciate, but can keep from dishonouring/disrespecting/(or whatever 
you call it) these initiatives.




Well I just now realized i missed a +1 before my statement. What i meant 
was the 1945 words that Roshan took pains counting and letting us know 
in his earlier mails :)


@Kapil, the comment was not for your post :)


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[Ilugc] [OT] Help required for Hindustan University to retrieve data

2009-03-05 Thread LinuXpert Academy
Dear All,

This mail is being sent by LinuXpert Systems on behalf of Hindustan University, 
Kelambakkam
reg. a data recovery problem in SCO Unix Server.

Message by Chief Librarian, Hindustan University:
--

We have to recover the data available in the magnetic tapes. We used the HP DAT 
Tape Drive External C1556D/6 Pin SCSI which has some problems. Any people in 
chennai who can retrieve the data/provide the tape drive may please contact 

Mr. Viswanathan : 9840927690.

--

Even though this message is irrelevant to this mailing list,  they are in 
urgent need to recover
the data from the tape.  If anybody in this mailing list could help them on the 
above said problem,  it would be helpful.

Regards

S. Baskar
CEO/LinuXpert Systems


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Re: [Ilugc] DEBIAN 5.0

2009-03-05 Thread Common Man
Hi,

Where can I download DEBIAN 5.0 LENNY Edition?

Kandaswamy
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Senthil Kumaran S style...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ravi Jaya wrote:
  Please get into terminal type 'tasksel' from the popup installer select
 the
  X - window system and enjoy the Happy Linux after  the installation.

 To be more specific select Desktop environment.

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Re: [Ilugc] DEBIAN 5.0

2009-03-05 Thread Senthil Kumaran S
Common Man wrote:
 Where can I download DEBIAN 5.0 LENNY Edition?

http://cdimage.debian.org

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[Ilugc] [OSI Tech Days 09] Calling out for Digital Media Partner

2009-03-05 Thread Sayantan Pal
Hi,

We are currently looking out for a digital media partner, for OSI Tech
Days '09, who can help us disseminate the word, who can broadcast the
events live and also talk about it after the event. What we can offer
you is free, unrestricted access, publicity, exposure and also an
opportunity to get exclusive dope on the Open Source industry.

For a detailed description of the scheme, kindly check out our official
blog http://www.osidays.com/blog/?p=28

Thanks a lot for your support.

Regards,
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