[Ilugc] Require your help in configuring Zimbra with MailScanner.
Dear All In my work place we have installed zimbra 5.0.8 with MailScanner (This is configured for to check the internal mail users and external mail users). If i upgrade to zimbra 6.0 the MailScanner will work or not. or entirely I have to reconfigure. I require your help to proceed further. Thanks in advance. KANNAN.A.K. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics
Actually at the desktop level, linux usage is very meagre.. but at the server level, its very popular and widely used.. However, with introduction of sharepoint 2010, everyone is moving to .NET and windows based development.. In my company (which is a fastest growing MNC), most intranet sites are developed in .NET and recently, new sites are consolidated under sharepoint.. I think, Microsoft will have a big push through Sharepoint, just like it had when it released windows GUI desktop.. Another thing is that Network integration is veyr powerful in Windows.. Most big corporates are moving on to Single Sign on, and Linux has been having major problems in integrating to windows network.. We run a corporate blogging site in linux, and its really a problem implementing single sign on.. Its really an ambiguity to predict where will Linux Move on, unless it sorts out desktop issues. Regards, Senthil On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:04 PM, rajkumar vbalakrishnasamy rajkumar.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi ilugcies, I recently googled about Linux usage statistics all over the world and found some information on that but the information shows only 1% use of Linux globally in desktop market, is this wiki article is fake or real.And i also found in some websites that Linux market share is high and w3c's statistics is also wrong.So,please comment on this or we have to analyze the actual usage statistics and modify the wiki content.And also we can find some more ideas to bring awareness on foss. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems http://www.seopher.com/articles/linux_usage_statistics__dell_holds_the_key_w3c_shows_decline -- राजकुमार follow me http://twitter.com/krisrajkumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:18 PM, senthilraja P technocr...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing is that Network integration is veyr powerful in Windows.. Huh? AFAIK, Windows 95 lifted the TCP/IP stack from *BSD. OK, let's accept it at face value; can Windows mount a NFS or for that matter any other global file system w/o any additional software/driver? Most big corporates are moving on to Single Sign on, and Linux has been having major problems in integrating to windows network.. You mean MS-ADS? SSO (LDAP + Kerberso) was there much before MS-ADS came out in Windows 2000. Windows NT domain controller on paper looks like NIS concepts. MS-ADS is LDAP + Kerberos plus their **proprietary** extensions to *open* standards which makes MS-ADS a non standard.To implement the proprietary extensions one has to sign a NDA with MS - which means any FOSS solution will not be able to implement them because of it's own licensing terms. Samba4 is making progress in implementing a clean room version of MS-ADS features but it is not yet ready for production use. We run a corporate blogging site in linux, and its really a problem implementing single sign on.. Please see above. Implement an open standard SSO and you should not have the problem you are talking about. At the end of the day it is the corporations prerogative to choose it's platforms but to blame FOSS for not playing well with MS-ADS Its really an ambiguity to predict where will Linux Move on, unless it sorts out desktop issues. Please name a few issues.IMO, for task workers (limited functionality Office, Browser) it is already there. I assure you that large Indian MNCs are actively looking at Linux desktop (thin clients) as an alternative for their aging desktop replacement. In desktop migration, I generally suggest to keep a few windows desktops for their power users (especially Excel) - typically they are less than 5% of their staff. My 10 paise. -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics
This thread is very insightful and meaningful than what one would expect from the subject. I will add what I know which is not very much. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing is that Network integration is veyr powerful in Windows.. Huh? AFAIK, Windows 95 lifted the TCP/IP stack from *BSD. OK, let's accept it at face value; can Windows mount a NFS or for that matter any other global file system w/o any additional software/driver? Good point. Network integration being powerful in Windows? You mean Windows shares? That is quite amazing given that it is incredibly noisy at the network level. Still its GUI is really intuitive and very useful and friendly end of the day. You can share anything and their discovery protocols work very well. I don't think UNIX NFS protocols ever attempted anything like automatic discovery. There used to be a protocol called SLP(Service Location Protocol) but I don't think it was adopted. I am talking about my Novell days. In fact Novell had an interest in it. You mean MS-ADS? SSO (LDAP + Kerberso) was there much before MS-ADS came out in Windows 2000. Windows NT domain controller on paper looks like NIS concepts. MS-ADS is LDAP + Kerberos plus their **proprietary** extensions to *open* standards which makes MS-ADS a non standard. To implement the proprietary extensions one has to sign a NDA with MS - which means any FOSS solution will not be able to implement them because of it's own licensing terms. Samba4 is making progress in implementing a clean room version of MS-ADS features but it is not yet ready for production use. Samba4? Yeah it is slowly and surely getting stable. In fact Samba is an incredibly well funded open source initiative. It is unfortunate it is GPL. As to single sign on I am sure LDAP existed for a very long time though a good implementation is lacking. SSO never took on in the UNIX for some reason. Even NIS does not seem very popular. People love Windows shares and Samba. We run a corporate blogging site in linux, and its really a problem implementing single sign on.. I agree that there are no single sign on solutions. Password syncing is a hard thing. At the end of the day it is the corporations prerogative to choose it's platforms but to blame FOSS for not playing well with MS-ADS Well blaming is one thing. But Linux has no mandate to interoperate with Windows. Its really an ambiguity to predict where will Linux Move on, unless it sorts out desktop issues. It is more or less a fact that Linux cannot capture the desktop market. But of late I find a lot of penetration as rightly pointed out. Thin client and cost savings. And of course the virus menace. Please name a few issues. IMO, for task workers (limited functionality Office, Browser) it is already there. I agree that the GNOME desktop is quite idiot friendly. Windows users will only be slightly uncomfortable with it. I assure you that large Indian MNCs are actively looking at Linux desktop (thin clients) as an alternative for their aging desktop replacement. In desktop migration, I generally suggest to keep a few windows desktops for their power users (especially Excel) - typically they are less than 5% of their staff. I don't hate Microsoft as some of their innovations are noteworthy and their ability to survive and sustain the market is itself quite creditable. I don't like any commercial thing be it M$ or Cisco. Even after all this days open source continues to appeal only to the intelligentsia. -Girish ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Summer Workshop for this weekend
Friends. Do we have any summer workshop this weekend? Please look this page and confirm in the mailing list. http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=ILUGC_Summer_Workshops Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My experiences with Linux are here http://goinggnu.wordpress.com For Free and Open Source Jobs http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics
On 05/27/2010 08:54 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: Samba4? Yeah it is slowly and surely getting stable. In fact Samba is an incredibly well funded open source initiative. It is unfortunate it is GPL. How so? None of the Samba developers would be working on the project if it was not GPL. They were the earliest adopters of GPLv3 as well. If it was a permissive license, it would have definitely been forked with several proprietary variants. Rahul ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] problem in accessing pendrive using ubuntu 10.04
hello This is vinoth. I have newly installed ubuntu 10.04 in my system.in that pendrive is detected but i cant do any operations like copy or paste...So please give solution -- with regards, vinoth ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] imp
hi friends; in ubuntu 10.04, i cant able to access pen drive... i can able 2 access(copy or paste) 4m pen drive to system.. but i cant able to access(copy r paste) 4m system to pen drive... i checked with many pen drive. if any body know to solve this problem pl help me... -- Regards, Himesh Ragu... http://www.himeshragu.co.nr/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] OAOD (KompoZer)
Application: KompoZer What it is: KompoZer is a complete Web Authoring System that combines web file management and easy-to-use WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) web page editing. KompoZer is designed to be extremely easy to use, making it ideal for non-technical computer users who want to create an attractive, professional-looking web site without eeding to know HTML or web coding. Key features and capabilities : # FTP site manager # A new color picker # Tabs! # CSS editor # A dash of style(s) # Customizable toolbars # Forms # Cleaner markup # XFN # Visible marks # Table/Cell resizing rulers # Automated Spellchecker To know more about: http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/ To install: sudo apt-get install kompozer -- நன்றி , தஸ்தகீர்.அ Kanchi Linux User Group Rocks ! http://kanchilug.wordpress.com My Works on Linux http://dowithlinux.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!
Hi All, Recently I moved to Singapore and will be in frequent travelling for next few months. So it is bit difficult for me to physically co-ordinate the ILUGC activities. I am looking for someone to takeover the ILUGC co-ordinator responsibility from me. Interested person, please mail to me or the list. Co-Ordinators Responsibilities: 1. Regularly conducting the monthly meetings. 2. Maintain the harmony in the mailing list. 3. Willingness to coordinate any LUG related activities. Around 7 years and 7 months before, on Fri 11th Oct 2002, I took[1] the responsibility of ILUGC Office boy aka Co-ordinator from Dr Prabhu. Now it is a time for an another change :) [1] http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2002-October/001184.html Bye :) -- Bharathi Subramanian ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Summer Workshop for this weekend
On Thursday 27 May 2010 9:01:33 pm Shrinivasan T wrote: Friends. Do we have any summer workshop this weekend? Please look this page and confirm in the mailing list. http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=ILUGC_Summer_Workshops ஞாயிறன்று தருமபுரியில் கண்காட்டிசியில் இடம்பெறச் செல்கிறோம். ஆகையால் மேற்குறிப்பிட்டுள்ள பக்கத்தில் உள்ளது போல் கட்டற்ற தமிழ்க் கணிமைப் பயிற்சி இருக்காது. -- ஆமாச்சு ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics
On Thursday 27 May 2010 21:03:18 Rahul Sundaram wrote: Samba4? Yeah it is slowly and surely getting stable. In fact Samba is an incredibly well funded open source initiative. It is unfortunate it is GPL. How so? None of the Samba developers would be working on the project if it was not GPL. They were the earliest adopters of GPLv3 as well. If it was a permissive license, it would have definitely been forked with several proprietary variants. please do not spread FUD. There is no harm if you want to use GPL - but to spread nonsense that 'if it was a permissive license it would have ...'. Like python, perl, php, postgresql, zope, django, etc etc etc. You just need to look at one of your own distros to find the plethora of non-GPL packages there. -- regards kg http://livejournal.com/lawgon ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] log4php's default log path anyone knows? please suggest
Hi all, log4php's default log path anyone knows? please suggest, or how to disable log and do console logging, it will be valuable for me if you could share your ideas on this ! Thanks, Usha ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!
Greetings, I propose KG as the co-ordinator. Regards, Rajagopal On 5/28/10, Bharathi Subramanian bharathi.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Recently I moved to Singapore and will be in frequent travelling for next few months. So it is bit difficult for me to physically co-ordinate the ILUGC activities. I am looking for someone to takeover the ILUGC co-ordinator responsibility from me. Interested person, please mail to me or the list. Co-Ordinators Responsibilities: 1. Regularly conducting the monthly meetings. 2. Maintain the harmony in the mailing list. 3. Willingness to coordinate any LUG related activities. Around 7 years and 7 months before, on Fri 11th Oct 2002, I took[1] the responsibility of ILUGC Office boy aka Co-ordinator from Dr Prabhu. Now it is a time for an another change :) [1] http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2002-October/001184.html Bye :) -- Bharathi Subramanian ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!
On Friday 28 May 2010 10:18:51 Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: I propose KG as the co-ordinator. I am not based in Chennai, and was just going to nominate T Shrinivasan (he could hand over mentoring Kanchi LUG to his highly capable friends and take over this responsibility) -- regards kg http://livejournal.com/lawgon ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Ubuntu 10.04 DVD
Dear ILUGCs, June month CHIP magazine having Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Live DVD -- Padhu, Pollachi. Knowledge is power ! Be an Energy (Opti)mizer - Use Electricity Wiser ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!
Dear Friends, I propose Mr.Raman Pandarinathan, as the co-ordinator. Regards, Thyagarajan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Friday 28 May 2010 10:18:51 Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: I propose KG as the co-ordinator. I am not based in Chennai, and was just going to nominate T Shrinivasan (he could hand over mentoring Kanchi LUG to his highly capable friends and take over this responsibility) I second the nomination - it will be in able hands. -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!
hi, I am not based in Chennai, and was just going to nominate T Shrinivasan (he could hand over mentoring Kanchi LUG to his highly capable friends and take over this responsibility) +1 -- Thanks, Aishwarya.M.B http://aishwarya-stillsearchingwhoiam.blogspot.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc