[Ilugc] Require your help in configuring Zimbra with MailScanner.

2010-05-27 Thread kannan krishnamurthy
Dear All

In my work place we have installed zimbra 5.0.8 with MailScanner (This is 
configured for to check the internal mail users and external mail users).

If i upgrade to zimbra 6.0 the MailScanner will work or not. or entirely I have 
to reconfigure.

I require your help to proceed further.

Thanks in advance.


KANNAN.A.K.


  

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics

2010-05-27 Thread senthilraja P
Actually at the desktop level, linux usage is very meagre..  but at the
server level, its very popular and widely used..

However, with introduction of sharepoint 2010, everyone is moving to .NET
and windows based development..  In my company (which is a fastest growing
MNC), most intranet sites are developed in .NET and recently, new sites are
consolidated under sharepoint..

I think, Microsoft will have a big push through Sharepoint, just like it had
when it released windows GUI desktop..

Another thing is that Network integration is veyr powerful in Windows..
Most big corporates are moving on to Single Sign on, and Linux has been
having major problems in integrating to windows network..  We run a
corporate blogging site in linux, and its really a problem implementing
single sign on..

Its really an ambiguity to predict where will Linux Move on, unless it sorts
out desktop issues.

Regards,
Senthil

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:04 PM, rajkumar vbalakrishnasamy 
rajkumar.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi ilugcies,
 I recently googled about Linux usage statistics all over the world
 and found some information on that but the information shows only 1% use of
 Linux globally in desktop market, is this wiki article is fake or real.And
 i
 also found in some websites that Linux market share is high and w3c's
 statistics is also wrong.So,please comment on this or we have to analyze
 the
 actual usage statistics and modify the wiki content.And also we can find
 some more ideas to bring awareness on foss.

 http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

 http://www.seopher.com/articles/linux_usage_statistics__dell_holds_the_key_w3c_shows_decline

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics

2010-05-27 Thread Arun Khan
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:18 PM, senthilraja P technocr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Another thing is that Network integration is veyr powerful in Windows..

Huh?  AFAIK, Windows 95 lifted the TCP/IP stack from *BSD.  OK, let's
accept it at face value; can Windows mount a NFS or for that matter
any other global file system w/o any additional software/driver?

 Most big corporates are moving on to Single Sign on, and Linux has been
 having major problems in integrating to windows network..

You mean MS-ADS?   SSO (LDAP + Kerberso) was there much before MS-ADS
came out in Windows 2000.  Windows NT domain controller on paper looks
like NIS concepts.   MS-ADS is LDAP + Kerberos plus their
**proprietary** extensions to *open* standards which makes MS-ADS a
non standard.To implement the proprietary extensions one has to
sign a NDA with MS - which means any FOSS solution will not be able to
implement them because of it's own licensing terms.  Samba4 is making
progress in implementing a clean room version of MS-ADS features but
it is not yet ready  for production use.

 We run a
 corporate blogging site in linux, and its really a problem implementing
 single sign on..

Please see above.  Implement an open standard SSO and you should not
have the problem you are talking about.

At the end of the day it is the corporations prerogative to choose
it's platforms but to blame FOSS for not playing well with MS-ADS 

 Its really an ambiguity to predict where will Linux Move on, unless it sorts
 out desktop issues.

Please name a few issues.IMO, for task workers (limited
functionality Office, Browser) it is already there.   I assure you
that large Indian MNCs are actively looking at Linux desktop (thin
clients) as an alternative for their aging desktop replacement.  In
desktop migration, I generally suggest to keep a few windows desktops
for their power users (especially Excel) - typically they are less
than 5% of their staff.

My 10 paise.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics

2010-05-27 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
This thread is very insightful and meaningful than what one would expect
from the subject.

I will add what I know which is not very much.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another thing is that Network integration is veyr powerful in Windows..

 Huh?  AFAIK, Windows 95 lifted the TCP/IP stack from *BSD.  OK, let's
 accept it at face value; can Windows mount a NFS or for that matter
 any other global file system w/o any additional software/driver?

Good point.

Network integration being powerful in Windows?

You mean Windows shares? That is quite amazing given that it is
incredibly noisy
at the network level. Still its GUI is really intuitive and very
useful and friendly
end of the day.

You can share anything and their discovery protocols work very well.

I don't think UNIX NFS protocols ever attempted anything like
automatic discovery.

There used to be a protocol called SLP(Service Location Protocol) but
I don't think
it was adopted. I am talking about my Novell days. In fact Novell had
an interest in it.

 You mean MS-ADS?   SSO (LDAP + Kerberso) was there much before MS-ADS
 came out in Windows 2000.  Windows NT domain controller on paper looks
 like NIS concepts.   MS-ADS is LDAP + Kerberos plus their
 **proprietary** extensions to *open* standards which makes MS-ADS a
 non standard.    To implement the proprietary extensions one has to
 sign a NDA with MS - which means any FOSS solution will not be able to
 implement them because of it's own licensing terms.  Samba4 is making
 progress in implementing a clean room version of MS-ADS features but
 it is not yet ready  for production use.

Samba4?

Yeah it is slowly and surely getting stable.

In fact Samba is an incredibly well funded open source initiative. It
is unfortunate it is GPL.

As to single sign on I am sure LDAP existed for a very long time
though a good implementation is lacking.

SSO never took on in the UNIX for some reason. Even NIS does not seem
very popular.

People love Windows shares and Samba.



 We run a
 corporate blogging site in linux, and its really a problem implementing
 single sign on..


I agree that there are no single sign on solutions. Password syncing
is a hard thing.

 At the end of the day it is the corporations prerogative to choose
 it's platforms but to blame FOSS for not playing well with MS-ADS 


Well blaming is one thing.

But Linux has no mandate to interoperate with Windows.

 Its really an ambiguity to predict where will Linux Move on, unless it sorts
 out desktop issues.


It is more or less a fact that Linux cannot capture the desktop market.

But of late I find a lot of penetration as rightly pointed out. Thin
client and cost
savings. And of course the virus menace.

 Please name a few issues.    IMO, for task workers (limited
 functionality Office, Browser) it is already there.

I agree that the GNOME desktop is quite idiot friendly.

Windows users will only be slightly uncomfortable with it.


 I assure you
 that large Indian MNCs are actively looking at Linux desktop (thin
 clients) as an alternative for their aging desktop replacement.  In
 desktop migration, I generally suggest to keep a few windows desktops
 for their power users (especially Excel) - typically they are less
 than 5% of their staff.

I don't hate Microsoft as some of their innovations are noteworthy and their
 ability to survive and sustain the market is itself quite creditable.

I don't like any commercial thing be it M$ or Cisco.

Even after all this days open source continues to appeal only to the
intelligentsia.

-Girish
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[Ilugc] Summer Workshop for this weekend

2010-05-27 Thread Shrinivasan T
Friends.

Do we have any summer workshop this weekend?

Please look this page and confirm in the mailing list.

http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=ILUGC_Summer_Workshops

Thanks.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 08:54 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:

 Samba4?

 Yeah it is slowly and surely getting stable.

 In fact Samba is an incredibly well funded open source initiative. It
 is unfortunate it is GPL.
   

How so?  None of the Samba developers would be working on the project if
it was not GPL.  They were the earliest adopters of GPLv3 as well.   If
it was a permissive license, it would have definitely been forked with
several proprietary variants.

Rahul
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[Ilugc] problem in accessing pendrive using ubuntu 10.04

2010-05-27 Thread vinoth kumar
hello
This is vinoth.
I have newly installed ubuntu 10.04 in my system.in that pendrive is
detected but i cant do any operations like copy or paste...So please give
solution


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[Ilugc] imp

2010-05-27 Thread himesh ragu
hi friends;
in ubuntu 10.04, i cant able to access pen drive...
i can able 2 access(copy or paste) 4m pen drive to system..
but i cant able to access(copy r paste) 4m system to pen drive...
i checked with many pen drive.
if any body know to solve this problem pl help me...

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[Ilugc] OAOD (KompoZer)

2010-05-27 Thread Dhastha Gheer
Application: KompoZer

What it is:

KompoZer is a complete Web Authoring System that combines web file
management and easy-to-use WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) web
page editing.

KompoZer is designed to be extremely easy to use, making it ideal for
non-technical computer users who want to create an attractive,
professional-looking web site without  eeding to know HTML or web
coding.

Key features and capabilities :

# FTP site manager
# A new color picker
# Tabs!
# CSS editor
# A dash of style(s)
# Customizable toolbars
# Forms
# Cleaner markup
# XFN
# Visible marks
# Table/Cell resizing rulers
# Automated Spellchecker

To know more about:

http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/

To install:

sudo apt-get install kompozer

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[Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!

2010-05-27 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
Hi All,

Recently I moved to Singapore and will be in frequent travelling for
next few months. So it is bit difficult for me to physically
co-ordinate the ILUGC activities. I am looking for someone to takeover
the ILUGC co-ordinator responsibility from me. Interested person,
please mail to me or the list.

Co-Ordinators Responsibilities:
1. Regularly conducting the monthly meetings.
2. Maintain the harmony in the mailing list.
3. Willingness to coordinate any LUG related activities.

Around 7 years and 7 months before, on Fri 11th Oct 2002, I took[1]
the responsibility of ILUGC Office boy aka Co-ordinator from Dr
Prabhu. Now it is a time for an another change :)
[1] http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2002-October/001184.html

Bye :)
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Re: [Ilugc] Summer Workshop for this weekend

2010-05-27 Thread ஆமாச்சு
On Thursday 27 May 2010 9:01:33 pm Shrinivasan T wrote:
 Friends.
 
 Do we have any summer workshop this weekend?
 
 Please look this page and confirm in the mailing list.
 
 http://wiki.ilugc.in/index.php?title=ILUGC_Summer_Workshops

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மேற்குறிப்பிட்டுள்ள பக்கத்தில் உள்ளது போல் கட்டற்ற தமிழ்க் கணிமைப் பயிற்சி 
இருக்காது.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux usage statistics

2010-05-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 27 May 2010 21:03:18 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  Samba4?
 
  Yeah it is slowly and surely getting stable.
 
  In fact Samba is an incredibly well funded open source initiative. It
  is unfortunate it is GPL.

 
 How so?  None of the Samba developers would be working on the project if
 it was not GPL.  They were the earliest adopters of GPLv3 as well.   If
 it was a permissive license, it would have definitely been forked with
 several proprietary variants.
 

please do not spread FUD. There is no harm if you want to use GPL - but to 
spread nonsense that 'if it was a permissive license it would have ...'. Like 
python, perl, php, postgresql, zope, django, etc etc etc. You just need to 
look at one of your own distros to find the plethora of non-GPL packages there. 
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[Ilugc] log4php's default log path anyone knows? please suggest

2010-05-27 Thread Usha Murali
Hi all,

log4php's  default log path  anyone knows? please  suggest, or how to
disable log and do console logging, it will be valuable for me if you could
share your ideas on this !

Thanks,
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Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!

2010-05-27 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

I propose KG as the co-ordinator.

Regards,

Rajagopal

On 5/28/10, Bharathi Subramanian bharathi.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Recently I moved to Singapore and will be in frequent travelling for
 next few months. So it is bit difficult for me to physically
 co-ordinate the ILUGC activities. I am looking for someone to takeover
 the ILUGC co-ordinator responsibility from me. Interested person,
 please mail to me or the list.

 Co-Ordinators Responsibilities:
 1. Regularly conducting the monthly meetings.
 2. Maintain the harmony in the mailing list.
 3. Willingness to coordinate any LUG related activities.

 Around 7 years and 7 months before, on Fri 11th Oct 2002, I took[1]
 the responsibility of ILUGC Office boy aka Co-ordinator from Dr
 Prabhu. Now it is a time for an another change :)
 [1] http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2002-October/001184.html

 Bye :)
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Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!

2010-05-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 28 May 2010 10:18:51 Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 I propose KG as the co-ordinator.
 

I am not based in Chennai, and was just going to nominate T Shrinivasan (he 
could hand over mentoring Kanchi LUG to his highly capable friends and take 
over this responsibility)
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[Ilugc] Ubuntu 10.04 DVD

2010-05-27 Thread பத்மநாதன்
Dear ILUGCs,
 June month CHIP magazine having Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Live
DVD

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Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!

2010-05-27 Thread Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன்
Dear Friends,

I propose Mr.Raman Pandarinathan, as the co-ordinator.

Regards,
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Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!

2010-05-27 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
 On Friday 28 May 2010 10:18:51 Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 I propose KG as the co-ordinator.


 I am not based in Chennai, and was just going to nominate T Shrinivasan (he
 could hand over mentoring Kanchi LUG to his highly capable friends and take
 over this responsibility)

I second the nomination - it will be in able hands.

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Re: [Ilugc] Wanted Coordinator!!

2010-05-27 Thread aishwarya .
hi,



 I am not based in Chennai, and was just going to nominate T Shrinivasan (he
 could hand over mentoring Kanchi LUG to his highly capable friends and take
 over this responsibility)


+1



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