[Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
Dear Friends, In our Office we are having 8 Desktop Client Machines and 10 Laptops with Fedora 14, Ubuntu 10.04, Mandriva 2010.1 etc., We are getting Internet Connection from two ISPs. BSNL (ADSL Dynamic IP) and Sify (Private IP and not public). Both are 1 MBps. BSNL is Configured to a wireless Router and Sify is configured in a wired switch. BSNL connection is often going down. So the laptop users cannot get internet through wireless. So, we need an alternate solution by configuring a desktop machine, to get both the ISP lines from two LAN cards. and an output from the third LAN card should give the trouble free Internet through Wireless. If any one line is down then the other one should take up automatically, even if any link is very slow then the other one should take up automatically. Please guide me how to configure these setup. and if there is any software please mention it. It should be truly open source. -- With Regards, RK, +91 9976294191 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Re: [Ilugc] FOSS Lab Setup in Dr. N.G.P. Institute of Technology, Coimbatore district
Hi, I've read a lot of mails about the labs being set up at various colleges and, I've wanted to know about what happens next ? The engg. colleges in the coimbatore and surrounding regions (Erode, Salem, Namakkal, Karur, Dharmapuri, Krishnagiri districts) have started using open source software in most of the computer labs for doing their practicals and also decided to teach linux/foss from the first year onwards. (a engg. college has requested to setup a lab with Linux/QCAD for mechanical engg. dept.) Does there exist a system by which the colleges keep track of how the labs are being used or, report issues with the setup ? As the engg. colleges have the subject 'open source software' in the sixth semester ( http://www.annauniv.ac.in/syllab_curriculam_pdf/2008/cse_5_8sem.pdf) which covers LAMPPP, they are in need of foss labs and we have setup the lab with every proprietary equivalent foss tools and the colleges are experimenting with all the tools and also have decided to use foss tools in other labs also. We have got excellent feedback from almost all the engg. colleges, where we have setup foss labs and also we all can ensure that, in the coming years GNU/Linux will be the primary operating system of choice in engg. colleges here. We had detailed discussions with many of the engg. college management authorities, and they have decided to use foss to make better use of IT infrastructure wherever possible/applicable. Regards S. Baskar CEO/LinuXpert Systems ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
Greetings, On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:28 PM, R.Kanagaraj (RK) kanagaraj...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Connection from two ISPs. BSNL (ADSL Dynamic IP) and Sify (Private IP and the other one should take up automatically. Please guide me how to configure these setup. and if there is any software please mention it. It should be truly open source. pfsense? Regards, Rajagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:28 PM, R.Kanagaraj (RK) kanagaraj...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, In our Office we are having 8 Desktop Client Machines and 10 Laptops with Fedora 14, Ubuntu 10.04, Mandriva 2010.1 etc., We are getting Internet Connection from two ISPs. BSNL (ADSL Dynamic IP) and Sify (Private IP and not public). Both are 1 MBps. BSNL is Configured to a wireless Router and Sify is configured in a wired switch. BSNL connection is often going down. So the laptop users cannot get internet through wireless. So, we need an alternate solution by configuring a desktop machine, to get both the ISP lines from two LAN cards. and an output from the third LAN card should give the trouble free Internet through Wireless. If any one line is down then the other one should take up automatically, even if any link is very slow then the other one should take up automatically. Please guide me how to configure these setup. and if there is any software please mention it. It should be truly open source. Remember that you can only load balance outgoing IP traffic. Even traffic shaping can only be done on outgoing traffic. If you want full link aggregation you should keep the same setup on the ISP side also. I dunno about Linux. With OpenBSD you can do this with trunk(4) interfaces. You can also use equal cost multipath routing. Or you can use BGP if there are BGP speakers. The final way is by using pf(4) to do route-to() between the two outgoing interfaces. In other words there are 4 ways to achieve this. With OpenBSD which is truly open source unlike Linux. -Girish ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
Hi, On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: With OpenBSD which is truly open source unlike Linux. Please avoid trolling/posting flame baits like the one above. Thanks Regards, Guruprasad ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:53 +0530, Guruprasad wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: With OpenBSD which is truly open source unlike Linux. Please avoid trolling/posting flame baits like the one above. how is it a troll or flame bait? He is entitled to express an opinion - an opinion held by many people -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
hi, I have an extra monitor plugged into my laptop. Resolution in both are set to 1024X800. The laptop screen always has the correct resolution, but the external monitor (samtron 45BN) sometimes gives the correct resolution and sometimes is at 800X600 - any ideas about the cause and remedy? Fedora 12. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I have an extra monitor plugged into my laptop. Resolution in both are set to 1024X800. The laptop screen always has the correct resolution, but the external monitor (samtron 45BN) sometimes gives the correct resolution and sometimes is at 800X600 - any ideas about the cause and remedy? Fedora 12. If you are using GNOME, would it be possible for you to use gnome-display-properties to define the resolutions of the monitors/display devices attached to your laptop ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 15:50 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I have an extra monitor plugged into my laptop. Resolution in both are set to 1024X800. The laptop screen always has the correct resolution, but the external monitor (samtron 45BN) sometimes gives the correct resolution and sometimes is at 800X600 - any ideas about the cause and remedy? Fedora 12. If you are using GNOME, would it be possible for you to use gnome-display-properties to define the resolutions of the monitors/display devices attached to your laptop ? I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above. The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above. The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. I can say that I can reproduce the issue infrequently with my set up. So far I haven't found the cause and I end up using the g-d-p to reconfigure. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
Hi Kanagaraj, Here is the guide on how to setup the failover load balancing net connection in linux. http://tech.gaeatimes.com/index.php/archive/how-to-load-balancing-failover-with-dual-multi-wan-adsl-cable-connections-on-linux/ Try this and share your experiences. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 16:04 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above. The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. I can say that I can reproduce the issue infrequently with my set up. So far I haven't found the cause and I end up using the g-d-p to reconfigure. how many external monitors do you have? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above. The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. Did you try Alt - Ctrl - + to change resolution? You know what to do? Press Alt , then Ctrl then + . It cycles between the mode lines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf I dunno, just guessing. It might work. -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech http://gayatri-hitech.com gir...@gayatri-hitech.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above. The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. Can you try grandr or lxrandr gui tools to set it back? Raman.P blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: With OpenBSD which is truly open source unlike Linux Oh ya, OpenBSD is truly, honestly, evidently, obviously a better, greater open source software than Linux, but please stop trolling! Nobody is discussing about the merits of BSD or Linux or Open Source here. Is it any requirement that this list should have n flames per month or so? Anyway IMHO we already had enough flame-war for this year; So you can postpone flame baiting till next year. Thanks. -- *அகிலன்* (Akilan R) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 16:16 +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above. The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. Did you try Alt - Ctrl - + to change resolution? nothing happens -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 16:31 +0530, akila...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: With OpenBSD which is truly open source unlike Linux Oh ya, OpenBSD is truly, honestly, evidently, obviously a better, greater open source software than Linux, but please stop trolling! how is this trolling? Nobody is discussing about the merits of BSD or Linux or Open Source here. why not? -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 16:24 +0530, Raman.P wrote: I am using gnome and I *do* have the resolutions set as mentioned above. The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. Can you try grandr or lxrandr gui tools to set it back? I will try the next time I get low resolution - do not want to mess anything up now. -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
Hi, On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 16:31 +0530, akila...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Girish Venkatachalam girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote: With OpenBSD which is truly open source unlike Linux Oh ya, OpenBSD is truly, honestly, evidently, obviously a better, greater open source software than Linux, but please stop trolling! how is this trolling? Nobody is discussing about the merits of BSD or Linux or Open Source here. why not? Because this thread is about something else as the subject says. If there are other things to be discussed, you can start a separate thread and talk your heart out there and back your opinions with facts and reasons. Thanks Regards, Guruprasad ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 16:56 +0530, Guruprasad wrote: why not? Because this thread is about something else as the subject says. If there are other things to be discussed, you can start a separate thread and talk your heart out there and back your opinions with facts and reasons. right - I missed that point -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com Coimbatore LUG rox http://ilugcbe.techstud.org/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
I dunno about Linux. With OpenBSD you can do this with trunk(4) interfaces. You can also use equal cost multipath routing. Or you can use BGP if there are BGP speakers. The final way is by using pf(4) to do route-to() between the two outgoing interfaces. In other words there are 4 ways to achieve this. As Girish and Rajgopal suggested, FreeBSD is the ideal solution for you. I suggest you use pfsense http://www.pfsense.org/ which will give you a easy to use web interface to configure all this. Ideally, use a dedicated box with CF card running pfsense. You could get a Soekris Embedded box ( http://www.soekris.com/index.htm) and install pfsense/freebsd on it. Very solid solution. We have been using this type of solution for years without almost no issues. Thanks Gourav ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [Developer Camp Kerala] Report
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Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: Did you try Alt - Ctrl - + to change resolution? nothing happens Have this line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 You need to have this line for every monitor you have. Which is to say that you need to add it to the section. Then only this will work. -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech http://gayatri-hitech.com gir...@gayatri-hitech.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:28 PM, R.Kanagaraj (RK) kanagaraj...@gmail.com wrote: Both are 1 MBps. Before you start playing around with load balancing links, may I suggest that you first upgrade your DSL bandwidth? 4Mbps unlimited DSL schemes are Rs 1500 to Rs 2000 per month. These are typically residential DSL schemes, but the ISPs are not too strict and I know several folks who are using it at work. - Raja ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. External devices may not get fully restored to previous state when you resume from hibernation. Simply unplugging your monitor, waiting a few seconds and replugging it should resolve the issue. If this problem persists, always disconnect your external monitor before hibernating your laptop. Reconnect the display only after your laptop has fully completed resuming and X11/gnome is fully responsive. - Raja ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
I have an extra monitor plugged into my laptop. Resolution in both are set to 1024X800. The laptop screen always has the correct resolution, but the external monitor (samtron 45BN) sometimes gives the correct resolution and sometimes is at 800X600 - any ideas about the cause and remedy? Fedora 12. Came accross the below link [1] while fixing similar problem. May help, do keep us posted. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Monitor_settings ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Load Balancing two ISPs.
In our Office we are having 8 Desktop Client Machines and 10 Laptops with Fedora 14, Ubuntu 10.04, Mandriva 2010.1 etc., We are getting Internet Connection from two ISPs. BSNL (ADSL Dynamic IP) and Sify (Private IP and not public). Both are 1 MBps. BSNL is Configured to a wireless Router and Sify is configured in a wired switch. BSNL connection is often going down. So the laptop users cannot get internet through wireless. So, we need an alternate solution by configuring a desktop machine, to get both the ISP lines from two LAN cards. and an output from the third LAN card should give the trouble free Internet through Wireless. If any one line is down then the other one should take up automatically, even if any link is very slow then the other one should take up automatically. Please guide me how to configure these setup. and if there is any software please mention it. It should be truly open source. May be this will help you: http://zeroshell.net/eng/ http://zeroshell.net/eng/Share your experience with us. Regards Ravi Kumar Tenneti ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] how to write mobile appilcations and integrate ?
hi to all recently i heard that jquery using jqtouch to write mobile applications ! but i still not experimented with that my doubt is how to write applications for sony ericson,apple ipod, and nokia mobiles how to write applications for them which language can i choose ? and how to integrate the mobile with system (via) usb plug or else any chip i need to buy ? is the mobile devices can support or they have patents of their own standards how we integrate mobile applications and with our own customised applications into high tech gadgets do i need to learn client side technologies or server side technologies to master them ! or else can i go through the symbian os ? please clarify thank u ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] EduFair
Hi, This mail is to inform all members of ILUGC about Bhavan's (my school) Young Indian's Educational Fair. One of the leading complaints of people whom I have switched toFOSS is that there is virtually no local PC guy who knows FOSSsoftware. So, if they call them up for some help, they justreinstall *Windows*. So, I realized the need for Local PC guys whoknow FOSS. I saw the opportunity for that in the EduFair. EduFair is a Educational Fair (you guessed it right) for school drop-outs from slums of near-by areas for our school. It gives thema chance to work and make a living. NGOs would be offering themvarious options in the field of vocational training. Around 500+school drop-outs would be attending the EduFair. I thought ILUGC would be a great NGO in teaching them various simple FOSS skills like installing and configuring Ubuntu, etc.,Zoho (the SAAS Office Provider) is also coming. I hope the kindhearted persons in ILUGC would be able to teach them the basicskills that The Local PC Guy requires. The main problem as far asI can see now, is getting The Local PC Guys to accept that thereare better software that is free. We don't have to make the schooldrop-outs unlearn the conventional *Windows* tricks. It would begood deed to us all, because we can start consuming the resources offered by the new FOSS-trained Local PC Guys. By the way, it'snot going to be free, and we can expect Yi Net to give some moneyfor the training purposes. The event is to be held on the comingSunday. Bhavan's is willing to let us have a stall, so that theinterested guys can come and have a look. P.S: Most of school drop-outs are not totally unaware of computers. They do know most basic stuff. The event is being organized this Sunday (5th December) With Regards, --Kumaran R ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] EduFair
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Kumaran R kuma...@techie.com wrote: EduFair is a Educational Fair (you guessed it right) for school drop-outs from slums of near-by areas for our school. It gives thema chance to work and make a living. NGOs would be offering themvarious options in the field of vocational training. Around 500+school drop-outs would be attending the EduFair. Kudos! Congrats and all the best for this noble endeavor. Way to go. Regards, Arun ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] EduFair
On 2 December 2010 21:43, Kumaran R kuma...@techie.com wrote: I hope the kind hearted persons in ILUGC would be able to teach them the basic skills that The Local PC Guy requires. The main problem as far as I can see now, is getting The Local PC Guys to accept that there are better software that is free. Nice idea and I am sure ilugc team would help . Anyways making them the 'local pc guys' is better than making someone who knows everything to mess with windows :) My suggestions would be to go slow while teaching them and show them simple tasks like installing,patitioning ,painting,picture editing , office applications etc which would first make them comfortable with the desktop . Obviously the software manager works by default in ubuntu hence a bit of practise I guess is all they need to know . But as with any GNU/Linux machine some times they get stuck in issues like network configuration ,mobile broadband , printer , sound ,graphic and other driver issues. This is where we teach them free software communication and make them approach ilugc or even better teach them googling or asking in ubuntu forums , IRC etc ( I know its overkill but it helps ) . Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri http://look-pavi.blogspot.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] how to write mobile appilcations and integrate ?
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.com wrote: hi to all recently i heard that jquery using jqtouch to write mobile applications ! but i still not experimented with that my doubt is how to write applications for sony ericson,apple ipod, and nokia mobiles how to write applications for them which language can i choose ? and how to integrate the mobile with system (via) usb plug or else any chip i need to buy ? is the mobile devices can support or they have patents of their own standards how we integrate mobile applications and with our own customised applications into high tech gadgets do i need to learn client side technologies or server side technologies to master them ! I dunno about others; for Apple you need to learn Objective-C and you need a simulator and if possible buy some apple gear to test it. ObjectiveC is apparently a good language. -Girish ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] HI friends help immediately
Dear friends My redhat4 os root partition corrupted how to fix the problem automaticallyplease tel the command and way to ... -- Regards G.Karthick 9629214811 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] HI friends help immediately
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, karthick g shrikaarthic...@gmail.comwrote: Dear friends My redhat4 os root partition corrupted how to fix the problem automaticallyplease tel the command and way to ... what is the error message.. -- Regards G.Karthick 9629214811 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Blue screen error in Centos 5.5 .
-- Hi every one .. i installed centos5.5 in my system After installing i reboot my system ... i got blue screen with cursor ...i can enter using single user mode but i cant enter GUI login can anyone help to solve this prob ? * * Regards *R.Muthu Saravanan.* https://muthusaravananmca.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] resolution in extra monitor sometimes goes down
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Raja Subramanian rajasuper...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: The problem is that sometimes when I wake up the machine (or switch it on) the external monitor only displays a lower resolution. External devices may not get fully restored to previous state when you resume from hibernation. Simply unplugging your monitor, waiting a few seconds and replugging it should resolve the issue. I have a different problem in Fedora with 2 monitors. I have a 1920 X 1080 large monitor connected to my laptop's secondary port. When the laptop goes to sleep and wakes, the primary and secondary monitors swap, and the task bar which was at the bottom of the large monitor simply disappears in the smaller laptop monitor when it swaps. This is because GNOME still thinks that the task bar is in the large monitor. Stopped using a second monitor with Linux because of this. Any solutions? Regards, Arun ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Blue screen error in Centos 5.5 .
Greetings, 2010/12/3 Muthu sαrαναnαn .я rmuthusarava...@gmail.com: -- Hi every one .. i installed centos5.5 in my system After installing i reboot my system ... i got blue screen with cursor ...i can enter using single user mode but i cant enter GUI login can anyone help to solve this prob ? Can you please elaborate? Regards, Rajagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] OSS workshops / FDPs in the coimbatore region
Dear all, The following open source software workshops / faculty development programmes are planned in the coimbatore region. December 6 - 11th Vellalar College of Engineering Technology, Erode FDP on Open Source Software-06.12.2010 to 11.12.2010 sponsored by Centre for Faculty Development Anna University of Technology,Coimbatore. http://www.vellalar.com/Engg/oss.pdf Speakers: 1. 6 7th December - Mr. S. Baskar (CEO/LinuXpert Systems) Mr. K. Baskar, (Independent FOSS Trainer/Consultant), Chennai - ( Introduction to OSS and Perl ) 2. 8th December - Mr. S. Ramesh, FOSS Web Consultant - ( PHP) 3. 9th 10 December - Mr. Joe Steeve, HiPro IT Solutions Private Limited Mr. S.Balamurugan Nokia India Pvt. Ltd., Bangalore - Python and NS2. 4. 11th December - Prof. T. Senthil Kumar, Amirta University, Coimbatore - ( MySQL). December 6 7th Kathir College of Engineering, Coimbatore (Introduction to FOSS, MySQL, PERL) Speaker: Mr. Raman (ILUGC) December 8, 9 10th (FDP on LAMPPP) Angel College of Engineering and Technology, Thiruppur Speakers: Mr. S. Baskar (CEO/LinuXpert systems), Mr. K. Baskar (Independent FOSS consultant/trainer), Mr. Kumaran (HOD/CSE, Jaya Engineering College), Ms.P.M.Latha (NRC-FOSS) December 14, 15 16th (FDP on LAMPPP) Muthayammal Engineering College, Namakkal Speakers: Mr. S. Baskar (CEO/LinuXpert Systems), Mr. Raman (ILUGC) and speakers required for Python/PHP on 16th. December 28 29 (FDP on FOSS Introduction / Python / PHP) Bannari Amman Institute of Technology, Sathyamangalam, Erode Speakers: Mr. Raman (ILUGC) / Mr. Baskar (LinuXpert Systems) with warm regards S. Baskar CEO/LinuXpert Systems ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Re: OSS workshops / FDPs in the coimbatore region
correct it as December 28 29 (FDP on FOSS Introduction / Python / PERL) and not PHP. December 28 29 (FDP on FOSS Introduction / Python / PHP) Bannari Amman Institute of Technology, Sathyamangalam, Erode Speakers: Mr. Raman (ILUGC) / Mr. Baskar (LinuXpert Systems) ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc