[Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
http://itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-to-join-microsoft/ Is this correct? -- Cheers, Dhastha http://dowithlinux.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Dhastha dhasthagh...@gmail.com wrote: http://itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-to-join-microsoft/ Is this correct? dated APRIL 1, 2013 ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Dhastha dhasthagh...@gmail.com wrote: http://itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-to-join-microsoft/ Is this correct? -- You may want to double check the date on that article. -- Sincerely, A. Narendiran ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
It is fake. On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Dhastha dhasthagh...@gmail.com wrote: http://itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-to-join-microsoft/ Is this correct? dated APRIL 1, 2013 ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Cheers, Dhastha Project staff Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay My experience on Linux: http://dhastha.wordpress.com Member of KanchiLUG : http://www.kanchilug.wordpress.com OAOD: http://dowithlinux.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Dhastha dhasthagh...@gmail.com wrote: http://itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-to-join-microsoft/ Is this correct? dated APRIL 1, 2013 ? :-) Regards, Balasubramaniam Natarajan www.blog.etutorshop.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Announcing Project Creation for Tamil Corpus - SorKandu
Friends. I created a project in sourceForge for creating a software for Tamil Corpus development. https://sourceforge.net/p/sorkandu/ Interested people can join the project and check the tickets. Here is the mailing list for the discussions. https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sorkandu-discussions/ We decided to develop this in python and django. Thanks. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in Get CollabNet Subversion Edge : http://www.collab.net/svnedge ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Announcing Project Creation for Tamil Corpus - SorKandu
Why not in github? Github provides more features and is much easier to view code online. Anyway that is just a personal choice. Regards, PrasannaKumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
looks some one is making ppl april fool! On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM, s...@ccmb.res.in wrote: - Original Message - From: Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.com To: ILUG-C ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Dhastha dhasthagh...@gmail.com wrote: http://itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-to-join-microsoft/ Is this correct? dated APRIL 1, 2013 ? If this is the destiny for Linux and where is the future for other FOSS products s.mahalingam ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
This was published on April 1 :) Kind Regards, Abhijeet Bansode 9096265096 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM, abhishek gangwar abhishekkumargang...@gmail.com wrote: looks some one is making ppl april fool! On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM, s...@ccmb.res.in wrote: - Original Message - From: Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.com To: ILUG-C ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Dhastha dhasthagh...@gmail.com wrote: http://itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-to-join-microsoft/ Is this correct? dated APRIL 1, 2013 ? If this is the destiny for Linux and where is the future for other FOSS products s.mahalingam ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] How online shopping works
The other day I wanted to buy a wallet and I thought: Why not online? And then voila. Wasn't I pleasantly surprised at what Google gave me? It was indeed very pleasing, amazing and excellent that I found not just one website but several companies offering merchandize on the web. Not just some ordinary website, but really integrated web based shopping cart application with integration into payment portals. Not just that they have a fabulous website with multiple views of the product and dimensions, weight and so on(everything except video), they also have a live chat option and what I found was that when I was buying the product a guy offered to chat with me. It was not intrusive, it was pleasant and they went a very long way towards earning the trust from a buyer and making a buyer really comfortable and at home. Typical Indian hospitality which is sometimes lacking in business. So I am going to talk about what all technologies went into making this online shopping experience meaningful, useful and worthwhile. And also making money using technology. I hate academia and the college project ideology and system administration mindset in LUG which are the evils preventing LUG members from achieving their full potential in life. So my job is actually to encourage more and more people towards entrepreneurship and to go ahead and build product companies after building the appropriate technical skills. In order to create something that will sell you need to be really serious. It is not a college project; it is not a joke. It is a real world issue. Any real world issue is hard to solve. That is why only few make money. Now if you take the sellers who showed up in google for my query for a wallet, there was zovi.com and there was bagskart.com. I bought a wallet each from both guys. And I think both these companies online presence was out of the world. I thoroughly enjoyed it. The real technical challenge or business challenge in building an online shopping site is integration with payment portal and listing the product with dimensions, photographs and customer reviews and sorting by price and so on. But technology alone cannot succeed. You need to be clued in with the real world. We have a bigger problem. That of trust. How to earn customer loyalty? How does a random buyer called Girish sitting in Nellai get faith that if I spend 399 rupees for a purse I will actually get the purse in my hand( of course I did just now)? To do that you need to use certain technologies. And a thinking should go into the design of the website that listing the product alone and integration with payment gateway is not quite enough. You should have neat website with lot of photographs, you should provide the user with a lot of information, claims of 30 day moneyback or replacement, guarantee that the shipping will not take a lot of time and so on. At every step you should get customer confidence. Okay this mail is too long. But you get the idea. Always apply technology to the real world. Then only you can be successful in life. I wish to quote this I read on FB. Education earns you livelihood. But self learning makes you a fortune. Apply your knowledge what you studied in engineering and your career and help yourself. No one can help you. Only you can. God bless. -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech http://gayatri-hitech.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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[Ilugc] The design of the SMTP Proxy
Actually I am not sure if the heart of my product is actually a TCP proxy or an SMTP proxy. I don't try to interpret SMTP commands beyond a point. Actually it is an SMTP proxy. Yes. It is so because I look at the 'DATA' command which actually sends out the headers and body of the mail and process it and then deliver it to the TCP pipe of the mail server or drop it sending an error 550 response code to the sending mail client. A TCP proxy would only look at a TCP shutdown or so. The design of my 3500 line C code is actually very very interesting. It could be smaller since I have an auth socket which is actually not something I have implemented yet. In these many lines of C code a lot of things happen. It was not written easily or in a week or so. It took I think around 2 months to write and to fix the most critical bugs it took more than 4 months I think. And it is only now that the code is production quality. So it has taken more than a year. The larger aspects of the design which we in software parlance call as a 35,000 feet view itself is quite complicated and requires substantial technical knowledge. Try discussing this with your manager in a big software company and I can wager, nobody would be able to figure out what this means. Anyway I will describe the parts: *) Daemonize(chdir /, setsid, daemon(2) and so on) *) fork() model for concurrent processing(hardest part) How to clean up and how not to crash your system *) multiple sockets, UNIX domain, 3 TCP sockets, client and server *) poll(2) based relaying in which you act as proxy, again hard *) the real engine which reads, writes, creates temporary files using mkstemp() and does other munching, only the offset calculation when writing to a file is tough *) the SMTP proxy part which does interpretation of SMTP commands like DATA, RECV FROM, HELO/EHLO *) other features like passive OS fingerprint, invoking spam,virus check, SURBL analysis, SPF, DNS and so on *) communication between multiple processes for keeping track of counters like mails rejected, total mail attempts, I used a UNIX domain socket, instead you could use shared memory. I think I first tried shared memory, but liked UNIX sockets better *) Using linked lists to keep track of configuration parameters and iterate through lists of blocked mail IDs, doing network matching and blocked MIME types, attachments *) Config file parsing at startup and reading it on SIGHUP signal *) clearing the statistics counters everyday(using setinterval() timer) *) responding to statistics requests on a UNIX domain socket for the web interface *) logging SMTP handshake using syslog And so on. Really easy eh? -Girish -- Gayatri Hitech http://gayatri-hitech.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
This is a fake news. But, for those who concern about future of FOSS: * FOSS was started as a movement by Richard Stallman. * GNU OS was developed, but only the kernel was missing. * Linus has developed the kernel, and named it as Linux. * FOSS is really a huge movement, which involves millions of developers. * Nobody can derail this movement by spreading these kind of fake messages. * FOSS movement CAN and WILL survive after the days of RMS and Linus. * Their names and the moral values they have created will grow forever. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
* FOSS was started as a movement by Richard Stallman. Better use the term 'Free Software' instead of 'FOSS', as RMS is really opposed to the term 'FOSS' when referring Free Software. -- S. Baskar Twitter : http://twitter.com/linuxbaskar LinkedIN : http://www.linkedin.com/pub/baskar-selvaraj/21/881/b29 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Linus Torvalds To Join Microsoft To Head Windows 9 Project
Hi, --- On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:57 PM, R Rajendhran rajendh...@yahoo.com wrote: | * FOSS was started as a movement by Richard Stallman. \-- Nope. He started the Free Software movement [1]. --- | * Linus has developed the kernel, and named it as Linux. \-- Nope. He wanted to call it Freax. It was Ari Lemmke who created a directory called linux at ftp://ftp.funet.fi/ [2]. SK [1] Free as in Freedom. http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ [2] README. ftp://ftp.funet.fi/README -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [0T] Suggestion
If we are using Google Search Engine In Same room with different laptops. The same keywords . Why it showing Different Results to Different people ? Why it not showing the same results to everyone ? The world wide consortium need to Look around this ? If its means is it Standardize one ? is it good for a common man can getting the exact results as what he expects ? Thanks Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [0T] Suggestion
Kumar, I believe Google customizes the search results for each user based on their profile, search history, and the contents of their mailbox. Cheers, - Ashwin. On 4/2/13, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.com wrote: If we are using Google Search Engine In Same room with different laptops. The same keywords . Why it showing Different Results to Different people ? Why it not showing the same results to everyone ? The world wide consortium need to Look around this ? If its means is it Standardize one ? is it good for a common man can getting the exact results as what he expects ? Thanks Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [0T] Suggestion
On Apr 3, 2013 7:19 AM, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.com wrote: If we are using Google Search Engine In Same room with different laptops. The same keywords . Why it showing Different Results to Different people ? Why it not showing the same results to everyone ? The world wide consortium need to Look around this ? If its means is it Standardize one ? is it good for a common man can getting the exact results as what he expects ? Google Search is a product that is provided to you by a company ie Google. If you don't like it, you can switch to another product by a different company. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [0T] Suggestion
With Google Search, you are not the customer, you are the product. Google stores all kinds of data about you and mines it to benefit their real customers. On 4/2/13, Mehul Ved mehul.n@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 3, 2013 7:19 AM, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.com wrote: If we are using Google Search Engine In Same room with different laptops. The same keywords . Why it showing Different Results to Different people ? Why it not showing the same results to everyone ? The world wide consortium need to Look around this ? If its means is it Standardize one ? is it good for a common man can getting the exact results as what he expects ? Google Search is a product that is provided to you by a company ie Google. If you don't like it, you can switch to another product by a different company. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [0T] Suggestion
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 7:19 AM, jaya kumar jayakumargen...@gmail.com wrote: If we are using Google Search Engine In Same room with different laptops. The same keywords . Why it showing Different Results to Different people ? Why it not showing the same results to everyone ? Google tracks your search history, and the history of usage of all your google products. When you try to search for something, it suggests based on your history. Not only this, they will also place ads nearby based on your search, recently watched youtube videos and what not? The world wide consortium need to Look around this ? Nobody is going to look around this, when you signed up for google services, you agreed for such things when you clicked 'I agree' in terms and conditions, Privacy Policy http://www.google.co.in/policies/privacy/etc. The are other search engines which donot track you, feel free to use them. Try Duck Duck Go https://duckduckgo.com/. If its means is it Standardize one ? is it good for a common man can getting the exact results as what he expects ? I don't know what this statement means, but google's method of tracking and delivering results is more accurate at giving you what you expect. And a lot of us don't want to be tracked. Thanks Kumar ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Sincerely, A. Narendiran ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
