Re: [Ilugc] Rupee Symbol

2016-02-03 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Sahasranaman M S <sah...@naman.ms> wrote:

> On Tuesday 02 February 2016 10:39 PM, Arun Khan wrote:
> > I guess, the question is about how to have the ₹ symbol mapped to a key.
> > So when you "type" that key, it will output the ₹ symbol just like the
> > $ on an US keyboard.
>
> I guess on most machines,  if we have English (India) keyboard
> installed,  the right Alt + 4 is the ₹ sign.  Just like Shift + 4 is the
> $ sign.


Came across this
https://abhidg.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/typing-the-indian-rupee-symbol-in-debianubuntu/.
I was looking for a Xmodmap example to use this symbol in Writer.

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Re: [Ilugc] Rupee Symbol

2016-02-03 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Mohan Sundaram <mohan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Sahasranaman M S <sah...@naman.ms> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 02 February 2016 10:39 PM, Arun Khan wrote:
>> > I guess, the question is about how to have the ₹ symbol mapped to a key.
>> > So when you "type" that key, it will output the ₹ symbol just like the
>> > $ on an US keyboard.
>>
>> I guess on most machines,  if we have English (India) keyboard
>> installed,  the right Alt + 4 is the ₹ sign.  Just like Shift + 4 is the
>> $ sign.
>
>
> Came across this
> https://abhidg.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/typing-the-indian-rupee-symbol-in-debianubuntu/.
> I was looking for a Xmodmap example to use this symbol in Writer.


I use awesome as my window manager and not gnome. Thus I use
setxkbmap/xmodmap. Getting the rupee symbol in writer and other such apps
was a pain but I never bothered till I saw this. I have used xmodmap to set
up my modifier keys as per my liking in awesome.

On my keyboard, F11 (keycode 95) and F12(keycode 96) were not use for any
purpose. I set up F12 to give me the rupee symbol by mapping it
appropriately.

You can test it in a terminal as under:
$ xmodmap -e "keycode 96 = U20B9 U20B9 "

After this, through the session, F12 will give you the rupee symbol. To
make it permanent, you will need to make this entry in the ./Xmodmap file.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Based Router or Gateway.

2015-09-11 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Look at getting Buffalo/TP-Link routers. They run opensource like
OpenWRT, Tomato, Svensoft firmware etc. Can download those distros and
customise. These boxes come at $40-50 for 802.11N and $100 for
802.11AC versions.
-- Mohan Sundaram


On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Siji Sunny <sijisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> t
>
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > For one of our products we are working on designing a gateway/router
>> (wifi).
>> >
>> > Currently for our prototype i have made a raspberry pi as router. I am
>> > looking for a cheap and reliable alternative since this router will be
>> > working 24/7.
>>
>
> It may worth to give a try with Bananna-Pi router board -
> http://www.banana-pi.com/eacp_view.asp?id=64
>
>
>> >
>> > Kindly suggest some alternatives.
>>
>> I had similar thoughts but abandoned the idea.
>>
>> Raspi -- hobby/home/proof of concept use OK but it  is a *bad* choice
>> for commercial productising.On alibaba.com, you can find embedded
>> boards (small form factors) with 4 Gigabit LAN ports + mini PCI-e
>> slots to stick your Wi-Fi card.  They are about $150 and upward.
>> PCEngines and Soekris boards have a small form factor but they are
>> more expensive.
>>
>> You can try mini ITX boards but the form factor may not be attractive.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, what is the USP of your product when compared to the
>> mid range APs (5-10K)?  From my experience, most small businesses
>> settle for the sub Rs. 1000 products from the likes of TPLINK and
>> DLINK.
>>
>> HTH,
>> -- Arun Khan
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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Based Router or Gateway.

2015-09-11 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Will help to know what you are trying to build into these routers as features.
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Rajesh kumar <rkrajeshkuma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> For one of our products we are working on designing a gateway/router (wifi).
>
> Currently for our prototype i have made a raspberry pi as router. I am
> looking for a cheap and reliable alternative since this router will be
> working 24/7.
>
> Kindly suggest some alternatives.
>
> --
> regards
> Rajesh Kumar R.K
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[Ilugc] Networking - teaching

2015-06-05 Thread Mohan Sundaram
A teacher in an Engg college has approached me to help make a networking
course covering application and transport layers largely practical and
hands on.

I would like to have suggestions from the group on practicals topics, tools
and guidance sheets for these practicals. Want to focus on using FOSS tools
and platforms.

Regards
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Re: [Ilugc] [commerical] Low cost open source networking products - ready to use

2015-03-28 Thread Mohan Sundaram
I've done this is in the past. (2000-2002) and was part of a embedded Linux
district team. Built a device and a product. Used to convert old PCs into
gateways too.

Look up LEAF firewall. pFSense looks to be the best packaged version right
now for firewall. You must look at a gateway package and then choose the
platform. Eg one that supports firewall, proxy, AV, qos, 802.1x etc

You'll find hardware with 5.to 8 Ethernet ports on a book PC from Taiwan or
even bare metal networking boxes, as is the trend now from Dell, HP etc.

You can write to me or talk to me if you want to discuss this further.

Regards
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On Mar 28, 2015 9:00 AM, S Suresh sureshkumar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Currently we dont have open source networking products available in
 indian market. mostly we need to buy from global market.  For example,
  PFSense/openWRT firewall/routers not available (out of the box).


 I am working on this project opensource firewall/router/voip/etc
 (pfsense, monowall, openwrt/opensips etc) porting in to the Desktop PC
 targeting SME customers.

 Please suggest your views.

 Also, I am interested to join hands established people/company for
 this project.  If you are interested, please mail me.

 Thanks
 suresh.
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Re: [Ilugc] Jolla...My Thoughts

2014-10-27 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Oct 27, 2014 11:53 AM, Anand anandrk...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Mon Oct 27 2014 10:20:56 GMT+0530 (IST), Shrayas rajagopal wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Anand.R.Kris anandrk...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
   tl;dr - Jolla is a smart phone in very sense, it expects it users to
   be really smart! ;-) :-D
  
 
  ​very nice review :) Short and to the point.
 
  A person I know also has the Jolla smartphone and he claims it to be
great
  as well.
 
  Let me see if i can get a guest review from him as well for us :)
 
  Cheers.​
 
 Thanks. That will be great, to hear more views. I can probably bring to
LUG meeting and show {off! ;)} to folks!

 If anyone is looking for a new phone and willing to explore / experiment,
this device would be  great choice. Btw, am not saying its not production
ready but has lot to catch up with other mobile OS's, especially in terms
of app ecosystem.

I've a N9 running maemo. Wonderful piece but no apps. Killing thing was no
sync with gmail contacts.

Does anyone have experience running Sailfish on N9? Would like to make it a
Jolla phone.
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Re: [Ilugc] Bad publicity on FOSS security

2014-10-23 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:55 AM, sahil साहिल
scorpionking.sa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Bugs get reported and they get fixed. There is nothing shocking about
 it. It is the way things work in F/OSS.

This is the way it work in any software, granted.

 Well said by Shakthi sir. As long as there are softwares there should be
 bugs. But the main thing is they get reported and fixed and this is known
 to all of us.

 We at least know they are fixed, unlike proprietary systems.

 +1. That's the beauty of F/OSS (at least in my sense). Publicly exposed
 vulnerabilities and publicly fixed so no need to fear.

I love FOSS and understand all that is being said. I think it is
better in security than closed source. However, the stats shown in the
article are interesting and the opinion of security researchers seem
to suggest that there is no difference between closed source and open
source in terms of vulnerabilities.

This is not something that is expected. While fixes may come fast, the
more eyeballs proposition says that vulnerabilities will be caught
earlier and sooner as source is available for all to see. Soon/early
enough to avoid large scale impact.

Heartbleed and Shellshock have had a large impact across the board for
a lot of sites. I cannot deny that these two alone have cast a shadow
over these security assumptions in open source. SSL and Bash have been
around for ages and still these vulnerabilities took so long to
surface.

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Re: [Ilugc] Bad publicity on FOSS security

2014-10-23 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Karthikeyan A K 77mi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Who know how many shell shock Microsoft hides? And how many of it is known
 by NSA?

I'm of the opinion that FOSS is certainly better. Your statement about
MS does not give me added comfort with FOSS. I'm bothered about the
vulnerabilities and impact in the absolute sense in FOSS.

I've used FOSS for a long time and have managed a webfarm for 4 years
in the 90s. I've always marvelled at the fact that Linux machines were
simply rock solid, not hacked and a low overhead management platform
while MS machines were insecure and a nightmare. I've never before
encountered a serious vulnerability in Linux as Heartbleed/ shellshock
that shook the foundation of the platform stack used for web
applications itself.

I referred to ESR's thoughts/works like CatB as I believe in them
strongly (so much that I travelled to meet him for a chat at his
residence in Wayne PA in the 90s). Those premises failed in these
cases badly. Both SSL and Bash have been around for a long time, used
by many and were considered robust components. It was after a long
while that the enterprise segment believed in FOSS and adopted such
robust pieces.

That confidence has been pummelled by these incidents. The painstaking
gains made by FOSS in enterprise adoption would get eroded, whether we
like it or not. The sniggers will be back.

I posted this originally as I was concerned when I saw the statistics
quoted. This is what the commercial enterprise software vendors will
grab and use against FOSS. Luckily, most of them used SSL/TLS and so
cannot blow their own trumpets.

We will need to wait and watch how the scenario unfolds and affects FOSS.

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Re: [Ilugc] Bad publicity on FOSS security

2014-10-23 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.com wrote:
 What F/OSS claims is that the source code is available for anyone to
 try out. Even if there are bugs, people can find it and fix it, and
 anyone can *verify* the same.

Yes. This is the premise that also alludes that FOSS would mature
faster to being vulnerability free than a closed source product. The
caveat is that that must be a popular and often used software.

SSL and Bash satisfy both these criteria but still had serious
vulnerabilities. Such vulnerabilities leads me to think that a hybrid
model would possibly work better.

a) Develop fast, release fast and mature fast as proposed by ESR for
non-foundation software.
b) A more focussed QA by a dedicated team like what Theo practices for
OpenBSD for core platform components which also means feature
inclusion will be slow but measured.

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[Ilugc] Bad publicity on FOSS security

2014-10-22 Thread Mohan Sundaram
http://www.darkreading.com/application-security/open-source-software-brings-bugs-to-web-applications/d/d-id/1316878

This says FOSS did not get critical attention to ensure more
eyeballs, more bugs discovered notion championed by ESR. Each one's
opinion but recent discoveries of Heartbleed and Shellshock have been
really bad for FOSS.

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Re: [Ilugc] Hamara Linux | Privacy Package

2014-10-21 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Oct 22, 2014 6:57 AM, kavin raj sikavin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just before three months I had used Ubuntu, but I can't able to continue,
I
 can't able to install Photoshop is my first reason,

Free and open software is not just an operating but an ecosystem with a
bunch of software to enable different applications. Photoshop runs on
Windows and Mac alone. This restricts the OS choice. There age equivalent
software like GIMP that offer features like Photoshop but may not be as
strong on features. Thus, when you want to use open source,  you need to
look at the gamut of apps you want and try to figure out what going can use.
 then I can't able to
 access hard disk partisan like windows as easy. Main thing is it is not
 user friendly like windows.
Have you tried the gnome-disks utility in Ubuntu?


 Please try to develop user friendly is like windows.

After having used Linux now for 20 years, I find Windows impossible to use.
:-) There are user friendly distros like Mint etc which one could try.

Regards
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P.S: to all top posters. It takes a lot of effort to send a trimmed
interleaved mail from gmail on the mobile. Where there is a will, there is
a way.
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Re: [Ilugc] MatchStick.tv - streaming with opensource

2014-10-18 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Oct 18, 2014 6:10 PM, Shrayas rajagopal shray...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:28 PM, kanthan cforcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  http://www.matchstick.tv/
  Open software and hardware HDMI streaming stick based on Firefox OS.
  its a $24 open alternative to walled gardens like google chromecast.
 
  It has a kickstarter project and it already at 320% with 23 days to go.
If
  interested, do show your support.
 

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/matchstick/matchstick-the-streaming-stick-built-on-firefox-os
 
  Mozilla article
 

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/09/matchstick-brings-firefox-os-to-your-hdtv-be-the-first-to-get-a-developer-stick/
 

 The day I got to know about this, I bought one of it.

 Though the delivery is in Feb 2015, I'm really excited :)

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Re: [Ilugc] nice to see some changes

2014-10-13 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Oct 13, 2014 12:08 PM, Raman Pandarinathan raam...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 10/13/14, Karthikeyan A K 77mi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Perhaps Kenneth is a old man who doesn't like changes. Even bill gates
  doesn't like change.

 Since when did Bill Gates became role-model for FOSS enthusiast?

Karthikeyan - instead of being nonchalant about it, why don't you return
this group a favour? We have put up with your top posting. Now it's your
turn to stop top posting and post as per the group's liking.

There is no point in alienating oneself,take being ignored as acceptance
and rubbing it in on top of it.

Also commenting on late KG was in bad taste. Can we see your cultured side?
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Re: [Ilugc] need some papers to network security related to linux

2014-10-12 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Oct 12, 2014 6:17 PM, Raj Kumar raj2070ku...@gmail.com wrote:

 providing open source solution for security and easily monitors the
network.


Too wide a topic. You will need to refine this further.

Sub topics would be packet filtering or firewalls, protocol based
filtering, content filtering which will cover a wide range of IDS/UTM/AV,
authentication frameworks for network applications, application firewalls
etc.

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Re: [Ilugc] opensource firewall

2014-10-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Raj Kumar raj2070ku...@gmail.com wrote:
 I recommend *cyberoam, *it will very useful to you!

1. Please do not top post.
2. OP clearly asked for open source FW while this is a commercial product.
3. I'll give you the benefit of doubt that language used was
unintentional. Broad, prescriptive and promotional statements like it
will very useful to you are to be avoided, especially for commercial
products.

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Re: [Ilugc] opensource firewall

2014-09-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sep 30, 2014 6:24 PM, Vivek Kumar vivek.2k...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear All

 Please suggest best firewall  with user management, proxy, bandwidth
 management.

A trick question. For a firewall and QoS combo need, look at Smoothwall,
Untangle, Std Linux with iptables(shorewall add on)+ tc + squid, pfsense
with other adds on in BSD.

Bandwidth management needs a good understanding of qdiscs and classes.
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Re: [Ilugc] opensource firewall

2014-09-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Sheyam Selvaraj smartshe...@gmail.com wrote:
 monowall and dansguardian will be helpful in that prespective

Forgot to mention that monowall is based on pFSense.

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Re: [Ilugc] community project using Ubuntu OS

2014-07-15 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Padmini Sankaran padsa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am exploring the possibility of getting HS students involved in learning to
 format hard drives of older computers (that people want to get rid of),
 install the Ubuntu OS and make these available to those with less access to
 computers.
 The students would then teach the recipients to use the OS and applications
 that work with the OS. They would also help with regular upgrades each year
 when the next version is released. It is an ongoing programme.
 There are details of course which would be modified depending on the
 context. But that's it in a nutshell.

1. Enterprises deprecate full machines and just hard disks are rarer nowadays.
2. Getting hard disks, loading Ubuntu on them means you require
machines without hard disks. Trust you've folks who can teach these
kids how to plug in drives, do diagnostics etc or check BIOS
configurations in older machines etc.

I feel getting full machines and repurposing them with Ubuntu OS would
be a more manageable route.

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Re: [Ilugc] community project using Ubuntu OS

2014-07-15 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:32 PM, Padmini Sankaran padsa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the positive response Anand.
 You lost me on the technical stuff of course.
 Me, I'm strictly non-technical - more about the idea, the possibility of
 applications within a community and how young people could learn from the
 projects.
 That's why I'd turn to you all for the tech support.

I'm in Bangalore. Can muster up my nephew too for this.

Anand was talking of more friendly interfaces than the default that
Ubuntu offers i.e unity. Linux Mint has good reviews and is easy for
windows users to migrate to.

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Re: [Ilugc] community project using Ubuntu OS

2014-07-14 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Padmini Sankaran padsa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would it be possible to talk with you or anyone else about this over the
 phone?
 It would be far easier to make it a conversation so clarifications could be
 made immediately.

A blog or online page will help folks understand and respond. Else,
the person you speak to will have to summarise and post a mail.

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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [HW] Linux compatible multi function inkjet (tank) printers

2014-07-05 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 WTB - a Linux compatible multi function (printer, copy, scan) inkjet
 printer with tank.

 Those who have such a thing, please share the brand/model and your
 experience with it so far.

Ubuntu 14.04. HP Deskjet All in One 2545.

Installed HP printer drivers and works well. Am able to see the status
using CUPS on localhost and also the printer URL by IP which allows
for scanning, diags etc.

Overall experience - Pretty good.

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Re: [Ilugc] Unable to Install Ubuntu / Debain

2014-07-03 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whenever I tried to install Ubuntu / Debian or even booting live CD, it say
 low graphics mode and always ends up with the console. I tried googling a
 lot and find that the problem is with Radeon graphics drivers and couldn't
 find any optimal solution.

 Try installing the ATI binary blobs.

I would recommend installation from an alternate ISO/image of Ubuntu.
Installs much faster than the GUI install. Set the default to console
login. Install the ATI binaries and invoke X. If it falls back to the
console, see the error in the logs. This will give you pointers.

I've a AMD desktop with a Radeon card with HDMI and VGA interface at
home. I was able to get display on the HDMI display while installing
Ubuntu though to a max of 1440x900 resolution. Post installation, I
installed the Radeon 5450 (my card) drivers from the Dell site and
then was able to get full HD output.

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Re: [Ilugc] Dell laptop (i7, 8GB RAM) with Ubuntu

2014-06-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Dell has high end laptops with Ubuntu alone. Difficult to get without
Windows in India.

Regards
Mohan Sundaram
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On Jun 30, 2014 3:20 PM, sreepriya sreepriya1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I want to purchase a Dell laptop with the configuration as i7- Intel core,
 8 GB RAM as min specification. I am a regular Ubuntu user. I don't use
 Windows and I don't want to buy Windows 8 along with that. Sadly, I
 couldn't find an option like that along with the specified configuration.
 Does any of you know any way to get it without Windows?


 Regards,
 (Lokah Samasthah Sukhino Bhavanthu)

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Re: [Ilugc] Dell laptop (i7, 8GB RAM) with Ubuntu

2014-06-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Sundaram KR
sundaram.ramachand...@kggroup.com wrote:
I want to purchase a Dell laptop... I am a regular Ubuntu user.

 Recently Dell went private, and Microsoft is a major investor. I tried 
 installing Linux on Dell Optiplex series and gave up after tearing my hair 
 out. It is painful.
 Dell has discontinued Linux desktop offerings

I use DELL laptops with Ubuntu and have been for over 12 years now. No
issue in running Ubuntu. The only situation where we get into issues
is with display drivers for GPUs like Radeon and NVIDIA. For Intel
graphics, it works like a charm.

I still see a few Laltitude laptops with Linux ubuntu option
http://search.ap.dell.com/results.aspx?s=genc=inl=encs=cat=allk=ubuntu

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Re: [Ilugc] Forgot System Password

2014-06-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Jun 19, 2014 4:26 PM, Venkatraman S venka...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the system login password for the lone user in my computer with
 Ubuntu 14.04LTS. I tried various solutions after a quick round of
googling,
 but of no avail.

 Any previous experiences or quick help would be awsum, as the system
 contains some critical data.

Boot from a live CD, do a choir to the directory on hard disk and execute
passwd root or the user name to change the password.  Well documented on
the internet.
http://www.c-integration.com/blog/showpost.php/83-reset-linux-root-password-without-knowing-the-password

I've not tried the grub and single mode in recent times as single user mode
was also password protected.

As a standard practice, I have my normal user id also in sudoers file so
that I can execute privileged commands when I need to. Can change passwords
if I do forget for some privileged account.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Cluster

2014-06-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
We are a group that is willing to help those who help themselves. Please
use the same words in Google search,  read up what comes up and ask
specific questions. I'm sure you would see quite a few hands go up.

You might still get some responses now tontour mail as some folks are
magnanimous.

It is likely you are new to this list and have not been on lists for a long
time now. Please ask specific questions after doing some groundwork.

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Re: [Ilugc] Failover help

2014-06-16 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:26 PM, arunkumar s arun_le...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 I am running one application on two servers,between servers i am doing
 replication of data now i need to configure one server as active and the
 other one as passive using ip address as failover

 I have only one option of configuring failover using ip and not have option
 to do with DNS and other ways kindly help

Assuming these are linux servers, you can do VRRP for ip failover in a
master slave (active-standby) configuration. However, I suspect this
alone may not be enough. What is your application? Web based? Suspect
it is as you are talking of DNS. Can you drop sessions?

For web based applications, it would be better to use a load balancer
(like nginX) which will maintain sessions and will talk to servers
behind it configured in a active-standby configuration.

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Re: [Ilugc] How to run a GUI application in a headless server?

2014-06-13 Thread Mohan Sundaram
VNC is probably an easier alternative to install and run.

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[Ilugc] OpenBTS

2014-06-11 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Interesting story on OpenBTS providing cellphone service in the
Antartica. The service is run by Range Networks whose founder wrote
OpenBTS.

http://www.wired.com/2014/06/openbts/

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Mint Cinnamon

2014-06-08 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Jun 7, 2014 12:21 PM, Karthikeyan A K 77mi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have enjoyed Cinnamon too. But my laptop has AMD Radeon graphics which
 Mint for some reason could not work with (how I dream of a open
 computer). So I had to use Ubunutu. Guess what next, after some updates
 Unity broke and now am using Gnome which on top of Ubuntu fits not so
good.

Mesa has reelased the latest version 10.2 last week. You may find an.answer
to your problems with it.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux Mint Cinnamon

2014-06-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Karthikeyan A K 77mi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have enjoyed Cinnamon too. But my laptop has AMD Radeon graphics which
 Mint for some reason could not work with (how I dream of a open
 computer). So I had to use Ubunutu. Guess what next, after some updates
 Unity broke and now am using Gnome which on top of Ubuntu fits not so good.

Mint is a built on top of ubuntu. Find it odd that Radeon does not
work on it if it does on ubuntu. Has nothing to do with desktop
environment just drivers. Amongst graphics cards, Radeon has the best
open source driver support. NVIDIA in comparison is lousy.

Check the latest Phoronix site for 65 GPU models  and open source drivers.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=massive_linux_gpusnum=1

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Re: [Ilugc] multiple routing ?

2014-06-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, km srikrishnamo...@gmail.com wrote:
 one of my server has four network interfaces. But by default any outgoing
 traffic is going through only one of the interface. How can I make use of
 all the 4  network interfaces for outgoing traffic ?

The network topology and intent must be clear. Assuming each of your
network cards is part of a different subnet, traffic for each of those
subnets will go to the appropriate interface. Normally all other
traffic would go out through one interface card/subnet which has the
gateway to the address space outside your subnets.

Do you have gateways on all the subnets? If you do, then just
configure multipath static default route via all the interfaces or
gateway addresses

For interface based:
ip route add default scope global nexthop dev eth0 nexthop dev eth1 ...

For gateway based:
ip route add default scope global nexthop via gw-ip1 nexthop via gw-ip2 ...

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Re: [Ilugc] multiple routing ?

2014-06-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Jun 7, 2014 1:01 PM, km srikrishnamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the quick reply.
 Let me be more clear. All the four network interfaces are in the same
 subnet with different IPs and the same default gateway.

 Can it be configured in such a way that the traffic gets distributed
 between the network interfaces if one of them is busy ?

You can configure by interfaces as I'd described earlier. Routing based on
device load is not possible. Packets get queued on the destined interface.
You could use equalise directive for packet equalisation instead of per
flow.

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Re: [Ilugc] multiple routing ?

2014-06-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan
bala150...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:00 PM, km srikrishnamo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the quick reply.
 Let me be more clear. All the four network interfaces are in the same
 subnet with different IPs and the same default gateway.

 Can it be configured in such a way that the traffic gets distributed
 between the network interfaces if one of them is busy ?


 I guess what you require is interface bonding.  I believe that should help
 you with this case.

+1. Yes. Did not think of that as the discussion was on routing.
Thanks for the correction. Bonding is a much cleaner and neater way in
this scenario.

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Re: [Ilugc] multiple routing ?

2014-06-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar
benignb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Krishna,

 On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:00 PM, km srikrishnamo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the quick reply.
 Let me be more clear. All the four network interfaces are in the same
 subnet with different IPs and the same default gateway.

 Can it be configured in such a way that the traffic gets distributed
 between the network interfaces if one of them is busy ?



   Thought I don't have a solution right away, I vaguely
 remember the LARTC explaining something very similar - Here is the
 link[1]. It might just be useful.

Link bonding can be done either in standby or load balancing mode.
Static ECMP routing with packet equalise will achieve this too if the
links are in different subnets (example command line was given
before). Given that all your cards are in the same subnet, link
bonding is the ideal solution.

I will not recommend LARTC unless you are understand QOS/queuing and
traffic control well along with what qdiscs to use (need to understand
the behaviour and appropriateness to your scenario). I think that is
an overkill. Simple packet based round robin balancing will achieve
what you want in the bonding scenario.

There is no concept of interface being busy but just queue length. If
an interface is busy, packets get dropped if the queue is full.
TCP/IP's internal mechanism will slow the source rate down
automatically.

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Re: [Ilugc] Awesome WM[ was Linux Mint Cinnamon]

2014-06-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar
benignb...@gmail.com wrote:
  I didn't quite catch that - Fluxbox in itself is a WM, and it
 is an excellent one :) So,Did you mean to say Awesome works on top of
 fluxbox as well ?


Nope. Muddled mind and fast fingers :) You are right. Fluxbox is a WM.
I made a mistake in referring to it otherwise. You must try Awesome.
It lives up to its name.

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Re: [Ilugc] Awesome WM[ was Linux Mint Cinnamon]

2014-06-06 Thread Mohan Sundaram
In the same vein...

I tried out Awesome WM 18 months ago and am hooked on to it. This WM is
standard in Arch, fluxbox etc. It started as a tiling manager and now has
some nice workspace features. Those who use window decorations and title
menu per app will find this a little odd as by default there is no
decoration.

I installed it on Ubuntu. This is a highly configurable WM with the
complete menu system and keyboard/ mouse shortcuts programmed in Lua. One
has to launch services and applets explicitly. Strict systray
implementations only work from Ubuntu. So some things like calender widget,
BT etc do not work.

Not for the fainthearted but does not need a nerd to use it either. I use
it with minimal services and the desktop comes up in under 5 seconds from
the login manager. Standard unity takes well over 45 seconds.

Good wiki at awesome.nasquadah.org

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Re: [Ilugc] Better operating system

2014-05-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On May 30, 2014 6:12 PM, Kumar send4ku...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Please suggest a best operation system for usage Web design and
development
 and Mobile apps.

Better is comparative. Apt for a purpose is probably what you mean. Please
state the purpose or usage.

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[Ilugc] Linux course on EdX supposedly by Linus

2014-05-22 Thread Mohan Sundaram
https://www.edx.org/course/linuxfoundationx/linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-introduction-1621

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Re: [Ilugc] Raspberry Pi clones offering significantly improved specifications compared to the original

2014-05-02 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Banana Pi was quoted at $60 in some article.

Given that RPi is about 24 months old, newer SoC based boards are bound to
come up soon. The price range of RPi like SoC based SBCs have been in the
$60-$100 range with better speeds /RAM.

Regards
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wrote:

 What is the approximate pricing for Banana Pi and HummingBoard systems? Cn
 we buy them in India?

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Filing taxes for freelancing work

2014-03-06 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Export earnings as professional fees have some IT rebates which gives one
greater tax savings than India revenues.

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ganesh.ranganathan...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Sikkandar Dulkarnai nsikkan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I am supporting for a New Zealand client and I receive the payment from
  nzforex.co.nz to my indian bank account. Should I have to pay IT or is
  there an exception?
 

 Like Madan said, You have to pay income tax if you earn money in India. It
 is a legal requirement
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Filing taxes for freelancing work

2014-03-06 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mar 6, 2014 7:56 PM, Manokaran K manoka...@gmail.com wrote:

 AFAIK, there are no rebates except for the service tax waiver.

 Whatever's posted here is mostly conjecture. So people with taxable income
 are best advised to seek an auditors help. Saves a ton of work and stress.

I agree with stress and related advise from a professional. What I said was
not conjecture though. In 2002-03, I got  50 percent rebate under 80HHE. I
do not know what is allowed today.

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Re: [Ilugc] run nginix and apache in same server

2014-02-26 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 all the configurations are here.
 http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2014/02/20/how-to-run-apache-and-ngnix-in-same-server/

 Now, I want to remove the port no 3000 in the url http://blog.example.com:3000


While there are redirect and other such solutions from others, why not
just host Wordpress using nGinX and remove Apache all together. Keeps
it simple and straight forward.
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Re: [Ilugc] Mail server error in fetch mail

2014-02-15 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Fetchmail delivers to the SMTP server as a default. Most likely this is a
postdiz configuration error. Can you mail locally on the machine to the
user under the domain name? If that is works,  check from logs if fetchmail
is see delivering to the MTA or not.

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[Ilugc] ATA disk problem

2014-02-06 Thread Mohan Sundaram
H/W - Dell Mini with a ATA 320GB HDD
O/s - Ubuntu 13.10

Output of mount
--
root@Mohan-Mini:~# mount
/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
none on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (rw)
none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
none on /run/user type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=104857600,mode=0755)
none on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw)
/dev/sda3 on /home type ext4 (rw)
systemd on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,none,name=systemd)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse
(rw,nosuid,nodev,user=smohan)

root@Mohan-Mini:~# cat /proc/mounts
=
rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
udev /dev devtmpfs rw,relatime,size=1018320k,nr_inodes=215847,mode=755 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000 0 0
tmpfs /run tmpfs rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=205420k,mode=755 0 0
/dev/disk/by-uuid/5fca1fa6-3f46-4eb8-9242-dd446b368f0c / ext4
rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered 0 0
none /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs rw,relatime,size=4k,mode=755 0 0
none /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw,relatime 0 0
none /sys/kernel/debug debugfs rw,relatime 0 0
none /sys/kernel/security securityfs rw,relatime 0 0
none /run/lock tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k 0 0
none /run/shm tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime 0 0
none /run/user tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=102400k,mode=755 0 0
none /sys/fs/pstore pstore rw,relatime 0 0
/dev/sda3 /home ext4 ro,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
systemd /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd cgroup
rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,name=systemd 0 0
gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs fuse.gvfsd-fuse
rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000 0 0
==

When I boot, the /dev/sda3 mounted on /home shows rw but turns to ro
pretty soon. Any write operation says har ddisk is write-protected.
Remount option cannot be used as it is RO.

Does anyone have any pointers? I have run badblocks in write mode and
reinstalled files in sda3. Still this problem occurs.
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Re: [Ilugc] ATA disk problem

2014-02-06 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Friday, February 7, 2014, Raman Pandarinathan raam...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look at /etc/fstab. What  is under options. if errors=remount ro then
 it means there is some error while reading/writing
  and kernel remounts it in read only mode. Check messages for any disk
 seek/read/write error in log.


Sorry. I did not mention that I had ATA errors only from sda3. I
reformatted the hard disk and had reloaded the whole OS too. No errors
while formatting or running badblocks. Googling showed that many had faced
spurious ATA errors with Ubuntu.

Before I invest in a new hard disk, I want to be sure it definitely is a
hard disk hardware problem.

.  Mohan Sundaram


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[Ilugc] [OT] Need help

2014-01-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
I help a NGO in Bangalore that works on identifying disabilities, one of
which is deafness. I learn that deafness is scientifically measured by
seeing responses to pure tone sounds from 250 to 1500Hz. Currently, special
equipment needs to be bought and is not very handy.

It occurred to me that this could be easily achieved using mobile phones.
Can some one on this list or their friends help out with this?

Need:
A simple UI driven program to choose frequencies from a radio button list
with a drop down list of time period for which the pure tone needs to play.
Possible inclusions - volume control, spectrum sweep across the whole set
of frequencies with display showing the frequency being played etc.

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Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meetings in cyberspace

2014-01-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Needs a good camera capable of 720p. Hangouts does take a lot of bandwidth
but lower than Skype. Look up oneklikstreet.com - bandwidth efficient
broadcasting solution. I advise this company and can get some good deals,
possibly free too,  for our community.

Regards
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On Jan 8, 2014 12:34 PM, Anand.R.Kris anandrk...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Abdur Rahman sarsarah...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan 
  bala150...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi
  
   My house is near central and say if I take the auto to come to IIT
  Chennai
   due to my personal reasons I have to shell out ~ RS. 250 one way and
  would
   take equally that much back to my house.  I cannot shell out RS 500
 just
  on
   travel alone :-(, Since I am interested in sharing and gaining
 knowledge
  I
   feel it is more apt and easy for many people to join the meeting should
   this happen over the web.
  
   first thing is why do you take auto? why not public transport?
  you have a train which is reasonable at fare
  and also by travelling in public transport will reduce the pollution
  emission.
 
 
   If people don't consider me cheap I can contribute RS 50 towards making
   this meeting possible over the web.  I know this is a small amount
  however
   if some more people join together I guess the fund should be enough to
  have
   it over the net.  I have also heard about the counter comment that if
  money
   is involved it leads to unnecessary disputes (I am really not sure how
 to
   get that resolved).
  
 
  IMPO we dont need to spend anything for that, we can just have Google
  Hangouts if we need.
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 If someone says *personal reasons*,  i think, it is courteous to not to
 probe further...

 You meant, Hangouts with webcam? Hangouts is fine for connectivity and
 conferencing, but for broadcasting / capturing the sessions with good
 quality, some better recording equipment than webcam is required?

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Re: [Ilugc] vim issue

2013-11-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote:

 You may try some options told in this link.
 http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Switch_color_schemes


Like I said, I know the ;colo name command and have tried it.
Nevertheless, my problem is different. Let me explain what all I've tried.

a) Edit a file already existing. Mark in colours comes up well.
b) Open a new file for edit and mark up does not come up at all as we edit.
c) Open a recently created file and the same thing happens.
d) On any of these new files, colorscheme works in changing the colour but
all text appears in the same colour.

My surmise:
a) All characters marked as delimiters for mark up colours has somehow been
cleared. Where does vi maintain the list of delimiters?

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[Ilugc] vim issue

2013-11-29 Thread Mohan Sundaram
I've a funny problem in vi/vim. The colour mark up shows up in some files
and does not in some others. The colour used is normal body colour through
out. Changing colour schemes changes the text colour but still mark up does
not.

Any pointers on how to solve this?

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[Ilugc] Need help

2013-11-09 Thread Mohan Sundaram
My friend in Bangalore (marked in this mail) wants help in
reinstalling a Ubuntu system over the next 2 weeks. He will be getting
an external hard disk to take data back ups. He has Ubuntu now but
wants a fresh install done with the following:
a) Eclipse IDE (Juno)
b) Java plugins - Oracle.
c) Android dev kit with Eclipse plugins.
d) NoSQL dev environment.
e) Python.

Can some volunteers help please? He is willing to pay for the service.

Interested folks can write to him at kns0...@gmail.com or call him on
+919844118458

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Re: [Ilugc] Terminate a running process

2013-10-25 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Oct 26, 2013 11:00 AM, Jacob G Podipara podi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Knights,
  May seem to be a silly question. I would like to terminate a process
like say Herrie, Transmission
  after an hour say. Can one do that while invoking the utility or is cron
necassary. The idea is
  that I listen to quiet music while sleeping off.

Try the at command. The shell process needs to be alive.

Regards
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[Ilugc] Google self driving cars run on Ubuntu

2013-09-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-s-Self-Driving-Cars-Are-Powered-by-Ubuntu-382360.shtml

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Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-17 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote:

 Further the member(s) in question should inform the list well in advance
 and obtain an implicit no objection certificate on the mailing list.

Such thoughts in the context of what Baskar is doing boil down to
being regimental and bordering on the ludicrous.

 b.If we talk about ILUGC in the event or had banner/any other material
 promoting ILUGC.

 In all other events it better to post to the list without 'on behalf ILUGC'.


 But ILUGC may be involved in Free software events subject to clearance
 from the mailing list.

I think we have lost complete sight of the spirit and the symbiotic
relationship ILUGC can have with companies like Baskar's in furthering
the cause of FOSS. No wonder Baskar feels he is better off without
involving ILUGC.

This does not bode well for us as a group. We are not a formal group
(formal groups will have a structure, representatation vide elected
office bearers etc) to give clearances nor do we have any one vested
with that authority in this group.

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Re: [Ilugc] Creating a facebook group for ilugc

2013-09-15 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Noorul Islam K M noo...@noorul.com wrote:
 The devils advocate speaking:
 1. What is a unit of conversation on facebook/g+/other tools that you have
 in mind? Can it be archived and searched conveniently?
 2. How do you plan to move the existing conversations from the list to the
 new tool
 3. When there are no volunteers here, how do you expect to have more
 volunteers in facebook?

 I think what we need is a presence on facebook, and someone taking up to
 updating it regularly, to garner more eyeballs and potential volunteers to
 join the mother list. IMHO, social networks have not replaced mailing lists
 yet. Far from providing migrating tools.


 I have not seen any tech community flourishing on Facebook. I might be
 wrong.

My view - I'd probably not go to FB for such lists. FB is far more
casual and free for all. I opine it will not work well for such a
group. I think FB cannot be moderated either. FB is definitely a great
place to attract youngsters.

We must use FB collaboratively with our mailing list and not replace
one with another.

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Re: [Ilugc] Apologies for posting FDP/Workshop event mails in ILUG-C

2013-09-15 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am sad to see this. But then, your contribution is independent of any
 acknowledgement it receives from ilugc.

 Whether on behalf of or in spite of, please continue the good work.

 Probably it is a good idea for ilugc to decide what it stands for and
 articulate the do's and dont's.

Most mailing lists discourage use of the list for promoting or
marketing products to the list members and I do agree with them. The
most prominent reasons being:
a. Reducing spam.
b. Objective of the list being sharing information and not to sell products.

If I had seen LinExpert's notice in another list, I probably would
have posted it here as it benefits and most importantly promotes FOSS.
Will I be asked to stop this? If not, just the fact that Baskar is
also a member is incidental.

FOSS needs a lot of promotion from many quarters to be adopted.
Conducting FOSS in colleges has a good cascading effect in promoting
FOSS. If ILUGC had resources, it would have certainly done this. In
the absence of such resources, some one else doing this as a
commercial enterprise must be supported.

If some folks have the problem with on behalf of ILUGC tagline,
maybe they could suggest an alternative tagline. I think it will be in
order that Baskar's efforts are endorsed in some form by ILUGC.

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Re: [Ilugc] Best Linux Distro for Office use

2013-09-13 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:01 PM, balachandar muruganantham
mbchan...@gmail.com wrote:

 i have used ubuntu and its not office friendly.

Though I've not used it, I've heard good reviews about Mint's windows
like interface.

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[Ilugc] Airtel 4G dongle

2013-09-04 Thread Mohan Sundaram
I got one yesterday - Huawei 3276. I think it has got activated as the
green light on the dongle keeps blinking.

Ubuntu NM showed new GSM broadband connection which I clicked and set
up the whole connection. After that the connection showed up in the
list but did not connect.

File manager showed the volume installed as airtel. Went in, looked up
Linux directory, copied it to tmp and ran the install script.
Installation went through without asking for overwrite - presume thus
the software was not installed earlier.

Reboot still did not get the connection up. Volume shows up in file
manager. Probably means mode switch has not been done automatically.
NM applet drop down list shows registration denied in status.

My questions:

a) Has any one gone through this procedure earlier with this modem? If
so, pointers will help.
b) Does not the NM install procedure automatically install the
drivers? Or do drivers come with 12.10?
c) Any thing else one should try apart from usbmodeswitch?

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Re: [Ilugc] Airtel 4G dongle

2013-09-04 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Nope. Does not work. Dongle still shows up in file manager as a
volume. Unmounted it and then gave the usbserial command. Tried
bringing the connection up using NM. Same error registration denied.
Syslog shows

Sep  5 09:34:35 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]:SCPlugin-Ifupdown:
devices added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0, iface: ppp0)
Sep  5 09:34:35 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]:SCPlugin-Ifupdown:
device added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0, iface: ppp0): no
ifupdown configuration found.
Sep  5 09:34:35 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: warn
/sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0: couldn't determine device driver;
ignoring...
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: warn pppd timed out
or didn't initialize our dbus module
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: info Activation
(ttyUSB0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) scheduled...
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: info Activation
(ttyUSB0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) started...
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: info (ttyUSB0):
device state change: ip-config - failed (reason
'ip-config-unavailable') [70 120 5]
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini pppd[5379]: Terminating on signal 15
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: info Marking
connection 'Airtel4G' invalid.
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: warn Activation
(ttyUSB0) failed for connection 'Airtel4G'
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: info Activation
(ttyUSB0) Stage 4 of 5 (IPv4 Configure Timeout) complete.
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: info (ttyUSB0):
device state change: failed - disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]: info (ttyUSB0):
deactivating device (reason 'none') [0]
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini modem-manager[1245]: info  Modem
/org/freedesktop/ModemManager/Modems/1: state changed (connected -
disconnecting)
Sep  5 09:34:55 Mohan-Mini modem-manager[1245]: info  Modem
/org/freedesktop/ModemManager/Modems/1: state changed (disconnecting
- connected)
Sep  5 09:34:57 Mohan-Mini avahi-daemon[1261]: Withdrawing workstation
service for ppp0.
Sep  5 09:34:57 Mohan-Mini NetworkManager[1268]:SCPlugin-Ifupdown:
devices removed (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0, iface: ppp0)
Sep  5 09:35:20 Mohan-Mini kernel: [ 5947.430417] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd]
Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled
Sep  5 09:35:20 Mohan-Mini kernel: [ 5947.433060] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd]
Asking for cache data failed
Sep  5 09:35:20 Mohan-Mini kernel: [ 5947.433082] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdd]
Assuming drive cache: write through
---

a) Is ifupdown configuration mandatory for this device?
b) Once the connection fails, it seems to switch back to storage mode.
c) Is usb_switchmode config mandatory for this? If so, what would the entry be?

-- Mohan Sundaram


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Noorul Islam K M noo...@noorul.com wrote:
 Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com writes:

 I got one yesterday - Huawei 3276. I think it has got activated as the
 green light on the dongle keeps blinking.


 I think loading usbserial module for this particular product id and
 vendor id combination might work.

 lsusb will give you product id and vendor id.

 sudo /sbin/modprobe usbserial vendor=id product=id

 See whether Network Manager detects the modem after this.

 Thanks and Regards
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Re: [Ilugc] Data card

2013-08-27 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Tapas Ray [Gmail] tapasr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok. I'll do that. Thanks!

 prasannatsmku...@gmail.com wrote:
 [ 1044.443570] scsi2 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0
 [ 1045.448575] scsi 2:0:0:0: CD-ROMUSBModem Disk 
 2.31 PQ
 

 I think it is getting detected as a CD-ROM. You need some tool (I
 guess one is mentioned in this thread already) to make your modem to
 show up.

 Go to that website, read documentation on how to use the tool and you
 can use your modem with Ubuntu.

a) Please do not top post.
b) Normally such dongles also carry the driver software. Hence they
mount as RO storage initially. If you install the drivers from that
storage, the software will switch it to the usb modem mode on
initialisation.

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Re: [Ilugc] Data card

2013-08-27 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Tapas Ray [Gmail] tapasr...@gmail.com wrote:
 What
 are top post and RO storage?


a) top post = writing you message on top of the email while replying.
When replying to email, you must answer below the every relevant point
and trim all unwanted. This is called interleaved posting and is the
most readable given that the context is clear. Please read the mailing
list guidelines.

b) RO storage = read-only storage e.g CDROM.

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Re: [Ilugc] speech recognition software

2013-08-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the above.   IT appears to be an engine (backend).   What
 frontend applicatoin have you used?



 Hi Arun,

 There is a simple GUI available in the CMU/Sphinx Source.
 Long back I used OpenOffice.org as front-end .


Just saw this 
http://www.i-programmer.info/news/99-professional/6263-code-by-voice-faster-than-keyboard.html.
Maybe some one could start an open source project to do this with
Sphinx.

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Re: [Ilugc] How to install linux on 2nd hard disk form my running linux of 1st harddisk

2013-07-29 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Murali Babu drop2muralib...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi ILUG

 I have gone into this doubt, Please help me sort this.

 Doubt: I have 2 HardDisk(HD), First one running with Linux OS. I boot on it
 and working into it. And i have 2nd HD connected where i want to install
 OS. I have ISO image and yum configured. Please share me how can install OS
 on 2HD without reboot and kick-start.

 Thanks.


Invoke the install shell script/program, use manual partitioning
during install and install on the second hard disk.

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Re: [Ilugc] How to install linux on 2nd hard disk form my running linux of 1st harddisk

2013-07-29 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Murali Babu drop2muralib...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please someone help on installing OS on 2nd HD. Thank you.

Assuming the second OS is also a Linux variant.

a) Mount the ISO as a loop device with ISO file system.
b) You will then be able to traverse to the mounted directory and
search for the installer.
c) Invoke it and it will lead you through the installation process.
d) At the point where the program shows hard disk partitioning for
install, opt for the manual method instead of automatic. This will
allow you to create partitions and designate mount points. You must be
aware of how to partition disk, specify filesystem types and mount
points. Generally, it is good to have a partition for the OS mounted
on /, one for your user files mounted on /home and Linux swap.

You will need to try this out. If you are apprehensive of doing it
yourself, maybe you should take the machine to one of the ILUGC
meetings for some one else to help.

On posting of messages:
a) Please trim the mail being quoted to just what is needed like I've done.
b) Please do not post on the top.
c) Many of us will be willing to help if you try something, get stuck,
let us know where you are stuck with error messages etc so that some
one can help you. A plain Help me will not get you far.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Lan cable problem

2013-07-28 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan
bala150...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you tell me if you have an idea as to why is there such a price
 difference ?  Am I shelling our unnecessary cash by getting the costlier
 one ?

Branded cables are a lot more expensive than self crimped ones in
India. Quality is definitely better. The branded ones come in specific
lengths and the cable is factory crimped /moulded and thus will have a
longer life and lower resistance at the connector pins. This is also a
high margin item for the manufacturer as the price is low comapred to
other equipment they make.

I've founded crimping RJ45s to cable cut to desired lengths work just
as well here. Costs a whole lot less as labour is not expensive in
India (as compared to the US). I've not found the premium for branded
cable worth the difference in quality as we can re-crimp here in India
easily.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Wireless Router for 50 users

2013-07-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Shaahul Hameed ham...@vakilsearch.comwrote:


1. Is there a limit on the number of wifi users supported by a wireless
router?
2. If yes, can you suggest a router that can support 50 concurrent wifi
users?

 We are using Belkin and Netgear routers, but are facing issues when too
 many people connect.


Not a direct answer to your question but an alternative thought.

I've not used more then 10 on a wireless AP. However, I do expect these
routers to have this issue. From a long term cost and availability
perspective, these are still the best bets over higher end equipment.

Can you not rig up a set of routers on a ethernet backbone on the LAN (WiFi
bridged wired ports) and have one of them carry the Internet access line on
the WAN port?

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Re: [Ilugc] What changes we need in the list?

2013-07-07 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Karthikeyan A.K mindas...@gmail.comwrote:

 This group will die soon. Don't be surprised!



Can you do better than just proclaim doomsday? And please do not top post.

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Re: [Ilugc] What changes we need in the list?

2013-07-05 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Balachandran Sivakumar benignb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Shrini,

 On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Rarely we are getting the mails from newbies.
 
  I am getting many complaints as we are not newbie friendly.
 

I agree that we should be newbie friendly. But, there must be a
 limit at which we should stop. That is, we should help them learn and
 use GNU/Linux. But we should never spoon-feed them. For eg, if someone
 runs into an issue in configuring a web server, we shouldn't simply
 say do steps x, y, z and you will be done. Asking them to show
 evidence of what they have already done is not being unfriendly. It
 just makes sure that they are not using the list as a free support
 service.


+1. Most newbies ask questions without doing some ground work. We need to
be polite and not brush them off with brusque replies. Most members are but
some tend to come down hard. Teaching newbies to think and research for
themselves is key to building a sustaining volunteered support model.

Maybe we should ask newbies to tag their mails with [noob]. Will help those
not wanting to handle such traffic filter them.

One other way is to organise discussions under some categories/tags like
discussion boards which newbies can scan as they may not use the right
search words in archive search. Needs volunteer effort.

   When people violate list guidelines, we do tell them that it is
 incorrect, and suggest the right way to do it. That again is not being
 unfriendly, it is just part of the learning. May be the tone used in
 such responses look stern. We can try to do something about that.


We can be polite at the first instance. Repeated mistakes need jolts to
move out of that rut. I've seen specific members' mails having top posts
repeatedly. I think we must have a short term suspension/ ban ( a month?)
for repeat offenders. This happens in every community and we need be no
exception. Hopefully some such mechanism would work well and not alienate
members permanently.

  Also, we need to reduce the amount of unnecessary noise on the
 list. At least on the list, we should stop showing hatred and inflated
 egos. If people don't like mails from someone, let them just filter
 those mails out. If people do like mails about someone, they can
 simply delete that email and go ahead.

  When the experienced people are raising many issues and they want the
 list
  to be fully moderated,
  There won't be any discussion happening here.
 

I am not for moderation. We have been a self-governing list,
 and occasionally, we do run into issues. But I guess we have enough
 mature people to come out of it. Thanks


+1 no moderation. Lets be tolerant and use our own individual methods to
handle stuff that we do not want to read.

I also saw some one say less than 20 members are active on the list.
Speaking for myself, when I see the noise, rants, unasked for lessons etc.,
I tend to ignore them. The list has had a very large proportion of such
mails over the last quarter - large enough to draw ire and irritated
responses from otherwise polite, benign members. There was a much wider
participation before this sparring on the forum started.

I see this list as one where anyone with some queries and problems using
FOSS can seek help and can get reasonable, erudite replies. I think this
list does certainly fulfill that purpose admirably. Turning this into a
tutoring mechanism or a programming oriented content certainly skews the
participation. Do people participate here to beat their chests? I do not
think so and that is probably why such content draws sharp responses.

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Re: [Ilugc] 1D1C - tee

2013-07-05 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM, ShanthaKumar m...@shanth.tk wrote:

 This reminds me once I was given UUoC award [1].
 If I'm right, this could be,


Nice read and reminds me of the beauty of concise bash programming too
where I've seen very succinct code doing wonders.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] ADSL Modem Suggestion

2013-07-03 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 One more thing - the ability to configure the radio power level.

 At that time a few of the Buffalo models had this feature, the APs
 looked very sleek.  However, over a period of time they would simply
 disappear from the WLAN network.After a few RMA replacements, I
 concluded that it was a heat dissipation problem.


I think Tomato and Svensoft firmware give radio power controls for
extending the range of the wifi AP. On my Quidway, as I observed with many
home routers, the router needs rebooting once every 48-72 hours. Symptoms
would be link speed slowing down. Reason that I figured out - logs are in
memory and as the memory is close to full, this happens. Looks like the
infrastructure is lean and dos not have syslog kind of software to rotate/
limit/ manage logs.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] ADSL Modem Suggestion

2013-07-03 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote:

 Svensoft firmware


Sorry Sveasoft.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] ADSL Modem Suggestion

2013-07-03 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan 
bala150...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could you please let me know what device, perhaps model number supports
 ADSL+Wifi and run dd-wrt.


Buffalo WBMR-HP-G300H router with integrated ADSL+ modem was the first as
per dd-wrt site. OpenWRT also supports some.

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Re: [Ilugc] Suggestion for Firewall with load-balancing

2013-07-02 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:


 pfSense.   Use server grade NICs (like Intel chipset).


Does pfSense do session failover?

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Re: [Ilugc] Suggestion for Firewall with load-balancing

2013-07-02 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Mohamed Mushab mushab@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Please suggest me a good firewall with load balancing option, Ip fail-over
 option,  DHCP.
 Need to setup is workplace with 200 workstation.

 Thanks in advance.


Arun has suggested pfSense which I've heard a decent bit about. Never got
to use it though. IPTables and ip route commands in combination can achieve
this on Linux too.

I've seen reasonably ease to use front ends for IPTables - Shorewall is one
I strongly recommend for its feature set and strong support on lists.
Webmin has some good plugins for IPTables and Shorewall.

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Re: [Ilugc] jQuery UI effects explanation

2013-07-02 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Girish Venkatachalam 
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:

 The source code was sent in an anterior mail.

 Meaning of anterior:

 $ dict anterior
 From WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006) [wn]:

   anterior
   adj 1: of or near the head end or toward the front plane of a
  body [ant: {posterior}]
   2: earlier in time [syn: {anterior}, {prior(a)}]
   n 1: a tooth situated at the front of the mouth; his
malocclusion was caused by malposed anteriors [syn: {front
tooth}, {anterior}]


Are we in for English lessons too? :)

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Re: [Ilugc] Printing HTML tables issue

2013-06-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Abdur Rahman sarsarah...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using pure HTML and javascript here is the code

 http://jsfiddle.net/yp7SA/1/

 i tested it on the Chrome and firefox

 when i print from firefox page break works fine at the same time when i
 print the output table from chrome it splits up the table rows at the page
 break.


Page formatted printing of a table from a browser has always been a
problem. I struggled with this early last decade. I do not know if printing
support has gotten better in HTML over time.

The way I was able to handle this:
a) ensure that the contents fit well within a page and give page breaks
b) ensure no cell is blank but has atleast one space if it has to be blank.
Prevents cell collapsing.

I'd recommend you give a print button in the screen and do a PDF generation
on the backend which supports the HTML tags properly for printing.

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Re: [Ilugc] Printing HTML tables issue

2013-06-30 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.com wrote:

 I do not know if printing support has gotten better in HTML over time.


It does seem like HTML5 does have good support including tags like header
footer etc. IE8 still has problems with these as I read on the Internet. If
the environment is under your control, maybe HTML5 is the way to go.

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Re: [Ilugc] Pdf reader for Fedora 18 having Highlighting features

2013-06-23 Thread Mohan Sundaram
If you want the markups to be sent to another person, I think he needs
the same software atleast as far as Okular is concerned.

I depserately wanted a markup software for PDF files which can travel
as a PDF file to be read in any standard PDF reader. Started using
Foxit (free but not OSS) and now Adobe 10 also has that feature
(Windows only).
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 Hi Shrinivasan Sir,

 Thank you for showing the path. It end up my three days haunting .

 With Regards.
 Ajit kumar


 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote:

 
 
  I am using fedora18 O.S and i wanted to install a pdf reader which have
  text highlighting feature. I tried many available reader such as (Foxit,
  adobe,evince,okular etc.) but didn't get success for the same. Adobe have
  highlight feature but is disable  in adobe9+ version.


 Okular have this feature.

 see these links.
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=2269
 Tools - Review or F6!

 http://askubuntu.com/questions/1529/how-can-i-highlight-pdfs

 Try xournal also.

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Re: [Ilugc] It’s hard to monetize free open source software

2013-06-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
One needs to deliver something to make money. If software is free, just giving 
software does not deliver any value and this no business can be transacted.

If free shows is used as a bar and deep knowledge of the software, domain and 
integration is packaged and sold as training, configuration services, 
customisation, integration with other packages, there is able money to be made. 

Regards
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Subject: Re: [Ilugc] It’s hard to monetize free open source software

Almost my money came from free software.


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 I have monetized my LiveUSB project.

 Nowadays I don't get anything but I have made some cash.

 -Girish

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Re: [Ilugc] It’s hard to monetize free open source software

2013-06-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
quote
n both the above cases you are talking about software as a service , the point 
most of the youngsters miss is , there is no tangible direct benefit from the 
Free software you write in most of the cases , There is one very big intangible 
benefit which most of us ignore is the skill development in the process .This 
is what makes this person special who is valued in top dollars by thousands of 
companies across the world . This is a big market place in its own and will 
need a different thread to talk about . so to not to confuse much the first 
stop if youngsters can cater to this market place with skills , once they are 
employed and once there basic needs and necessities are taken care of then they 
can think of taking the next step towards whatever next big or whatever IMHO.
/ quote

This is definitely true. Being a contributor to open source is a good way to 
build skill. Applauds in this space it's seen as a greater endorsements of 
skill than from an organizational context.
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Re: [Ilugc] GPL Licensing terms -

2013-06-10 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:48 PM, S Suresh sureshkumar...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,

 I am plan to work as independent consultant on opensource softwares.
Welcome to the brave new world.

 1) Installing  supporting the opensource software (majorly GPLv3 licence,
 GPLv2, apache, other licences too) to the customer , is it legal?
100% legal

 Here support means - configuration  admistration support?

 2) Customizing the opensource software. (Note: I will send the customization
 to the software mailing group. Here the group may reject this or take this
 or put on hold to make it on official delivery)
 But, still i can use the customized software  to my customer?
 And install  support the customized software to customer? Is it legal?
100% legal but the customer must have access to source code if he desires.

 3) Writing documentation for the usage of opensource software and share it
 with customers? Making money out of those items (1,2,3) , is it legal?
100% Legal

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Re: [Ilugc] Can I install Linux on a branded laptop preloaded with Win8

2013-06-05 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Selvakumar Rajeswaran
selva_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can I install Linux on a branded laptop preloaded with Windows8.

 Some of my friends told it is locked internally so that hard disc cannot be 
 partitioned to install Linux.

As far as I've seen, windows pre-loaded laptops do not bar you from
partitioning the hard disk. If you want to use Windows and Linux on
the same laptop, I'll recommend either
(a) use a VM for linux like VMWare or Virtualbox.
(b) use wubi installer if you are looking at Ubuntu which will allow
you to load Ubuntu without partitioning (uses a raw file).

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Re: [Ilugc] RIP - AtulChitnis

2013-06-03 Thread Mohan Sundaram
Very shocking and sad. 

Regards
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Sent: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Ilugc] RIP - AtulChitnis

R.I.P Atul Chitnis : The Man Who Changed the Open Source World

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Siji Sunny sijisu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another big loss for FOSS community. Atul Chitnis- father of foss.inpassed
 away.

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Re: [Ilugc] some download accelerators

2013-05-27 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:
 However, my original query - what server side apps. support breaking
 up the file into small bits such that clients like above can make
 multiple (parallel) connections to retrieve the bits and assemble the
 file on the client end.

Was not clear earlier that you were asking for server side.

Going by the features on the front end, it seems like the segments
start from an different offset of the original file. We can use any
number of segments/threads and the segments get equally split. This is
what leads me to deduce this. This is also possible if the file is
broken into many segments to give us a semblance of this behaviour.

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Re: [Ilugc] some download accelerators

2013-05-26 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you please name at least one open source package for http and ftp.
   I realize for normal web browsing this is possible but for
 downloading an iso file how does it work?

aria2c does http, torrents and ftp. Prozilla also does both hhtp and
ftp but has been dormant for a long time.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Openproj need help

2013-05-23 Thread Mohan Sundaram
They want someone to hand hold their interns In OpenProj and help 
administer/maintain Their EC2 instance of Openproj. 

Regards
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From: AJIT KUMAR urwithaj...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:58
Subject: Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Openproj need help

Hi Mohan sundaram,

Can you please elaborate the nature of work IIHS is expecting.

With regards.
Ajit


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Mohan Sundaram mohan@gmail.comwrote:

 IIHS in Bangalore needs some handholding help on IT and specifcally
 OpenProj usage.

 Any one volunteering for this? They would like some one to spend 2
 days a week, on half day. They can pay but that would be small.

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Re: [Ilugc] Automation shell script

2013-05-19 Thread Mohan Sundaram
manikantan mb  98440 22353 @gmail.com wrote:

Hi ,
  Please help me how to write a automated shell script to copy files in
daily basis without any duplication using cronttab.


Why not try rsync and cron the job? Saves copying in mod if I Redon files 
everyday. 





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Re: [Ilugc] Making the mailboxes readonly

2013-05-17 Thread Mohan Sundaram

There is a specific reason for asking this question as it is related to an
Organization and they need this sort of feature.

Easiest thing to do then - modify the  web mail front end html pages by 
removing the delete buttons.
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Re: [Ilugc] Need help

2013-05-15 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Saravanan Devasagayam
saravanansaga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dont work crontap job but thats work on terminal in ubuntu anybody help
 please


Like others have said, more details will be needed to help you.
Nevertheless, the most common problem faced is what you have listed.
Users just plug in the command line as used in a terminal and the
command will not work. Terminals have shell with path to search which
cron does not have. Cron/Crontab needs the complete path of the
executable to be mentioned in the entry. should work then.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Future of Maria DB ?

2013-05-11 Thread Mohan Sundaram

 Mohan Sundaram

Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote:

On 11 May 2013 15:48, R.yuvaraj cst yuva...@gmail.com wrote:

 i need exact answerMariaDB best or not?compare to mysql...???


Exact answers cost Rs. 2 per question.

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Re: [Ilugc] Tally ERP 9 in Ubuntu 12.04

2013-05-09 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM, RK RK kanagaraj...@gmail.com wrote:

 They also use Tally ERP 9 which needs to be installed in Ubuntu. Does
 anybody succeeded  with installing tally ERP 9 using wine or play on Linux?
 Is it recommended to install and use it in production?

Wine works well for a few apps. I think Tally would have been
developed using the dotnet framework. I've had problems running such
apps whether with Mono or the native dotnet framework installed under
wine. You will have better results running Tally under Windows in a VM
like Virtualbox. Takes away the claim that one can be Windows free
though.

Multiuser Tally has a web interface, I recall. If that were the case,
you could have the Tally server alone on Windows.

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Re: [Ilugc] WAN bundling for ISP failover/multiplexing

2013-05-04 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:

 But I cannot apply this knowledge directly and most of you will not
 follow this video.

 You require background knowledge.

Another instance. What makes you think that folks will not follow it
and need background knowledge? Do not be so condescending. We are here
to share knowledge and not play one-upmanship.

You will be better off not earning the ire of the members of this group.

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Re: [Ilugc] Microsoft Office 365 for Education made mandatory for approved institutions by AICTE

2013-04-14 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:50 PM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote:

 Select  hit reply button.

This has been around for a while and is useful as it automatically
does bottom posting. For interleaved posting, I either mark text and
interleave or hit the reply buton, click the hidden text three dot
icon and edit the hidden text. That works well too.

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Re: [Ilugc] No trace to host error

2013-04-10 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:19 PM, hari prasadh hariprasad...@gmail.com wrote:

 yes,if i ran the same command on 10.242.142.71 ,it works.i was not able to
 install nmap as it is production environment.

 Any other clues?
Telnet to localhost only shows that the service is running. Check you
iptables to see if connections are allowed on the standard telnet port
or any other port you are running the service on. By default, all
incoming connections will be denied.

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[Ilugc] Multipath TCP

2013-03-24 Thread Mohan Sundaram
50Gbps by aggregating interfaces on a desktop and seamless handover
across interfaces participating in the bonding.
http://www.multipath-tcp.org/

Has anyone gone thro' this in detail? If so, could you educate this group?

I wonder how this will play with firewalls when different interfaces
go thro' different firewalls? Are there multiple TCP sessions
established across all the firewalls so that data can come in thro'
all the firewalls?

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Re: [Ilugc] Raspberrypi and TrustZone

2013-03-16 Thread Mohan Sundaram
This will only be seen in the Broadcom processor specification sheet
which is available to developers and partner of Broadcom on a NDA.
This is the reason why R-Pi cannot publish the spec sheet on their
site.

Does anyone here have access to the specification sheet? Their brief
spec on the website does not carry more than 5 lines of info.

You would get to see TrustZone on microcontrollers as a need more than
on SoCs. BCM 2835 is a SoC for multimedia applications and thus has
little reason to have a TrustZone implementation.
-- Mohan Sundaram


On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:47 AM, prasannatsmkumar
prasannatsmku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone know / confirm that raspberrypi has TrustZone support? There are
 some forum threads in raspberrypi.org website saying it is supported while
 some other say it is not supported. It will be great if someone could
 clarify this.

 Thanks and Regards,
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Re: [Ilugc] File sync between two locations

2013-03-11 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Narendiran a.narendi...@gmail.com wrote:



 I do not know much about unison to comment on it, but your 3rd machine
 is boon for you. You do not need to make it as a bridge between the 2
 servers. But you can use it to keep track of your ips. You can
 overcome the problem of being behind the router by setting up port
 forwarding in the routers.


I will recommend you build tunnels (recomend OpenVPN)  from each of your
machines to the third machine with IPs in the same subnet with forwarding
enabled on the 3rd machine. The tunnel end points will have statically
assigned private addresses thus resolving your issue.

-- Mohan Sundaram
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Re: [Ilugc] Serious Problems With USB Controller in Raspberry Pi

2013-02-06 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Siji Sunny sijisu...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems like the usb controller used* *in Rspberry pi SOC (Broadcom
 BCM2835) has some serious issues , since it can only supply low amount of
 current to its USB devices (Approximately 140 mA). This will cause
 continues restart of RPI specially while connecting USB Network Card, USB
 Modem or GPS devices.

From what I've read, it is an issue of the USB on the chip w.r.t to
power draw. Powering on by USB gives 500mA while the Model B needs
700mA at peak. So a 1A power source is recommended instead of the PC
powered mode. Higher power draw by the USB causes the thresholds to
falls for the internals and thus the reboot. To avoid this, polyfuses
have been used on the board to restrict the power draw to 140mA.

I had flagged the same problem as USB wireless did not seem to work
well (speed lags) and traced it to the possibility of low power draw.
I tried a powered USB hub and the RPi gave problems in identifying the
device.

My streaming media problem got solved by dedicating a router (54Mbps)
for my link between the RPi and the server. The buffering disappeared.

I believe the ModelA has been released and draws 300mA peak. This may
give more power to the USB than before.

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Re: [Ilugc] Bandwidth Management opinion required

2013-02-01 Thread Mohan Sundaram
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ravi Kumar Tenneti rktenn...@gmail.com wrote:
 We also found the following:

 1. Mastershaper
 2. WebHTB (www.webhtb.ro)

 We are looking for suggestions

 1. Which one is better among these
 2. It should be possible to configure this with already existing setup
 (slightly large setup of 500+ users).
 3. Open for other solutions also.

Wondershaper is another tool. QoS is a subject that requires some
understanding and reading up on how qdiscs perform and what their
configurations are meant to do under different scenarios. While
allocating bandwidth under a constrained scenario with all nodes
firing is reasonably simple to understand, it is allocation of spare
bandwidth beyond the minimum based on priority and maximum caps that
you would need to pay attention.

HTB as a qdisc performs well and seems to be fairly stable now. If you
are looking at equitable distribution of bandwidth for your users
without much diffferentiation, round robin queuing qdiscs will be
useful.

Most user friendly tools offer an dumbed down version of configuration
of these qdiscs with a single level hierarchy scheme though they are
far more powerful and allow for complex configurations.

My advice would be to draw a hierarchy of desired usage of the
bandwidth with priorities when there is contention for bandwidth and
there is spare to be distributed. This could lead to appropriate
subnet designs making it easy for you to design rules. Additions to
the network can be made in the appropriate subnet and the QoS rules
would not need to be changed.

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