Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender
Our discussions are crap till we reach out to the right people. I.e., how many people contacted the right people specified in the first few emails in the same thread On Sep 3, 2011 12:22 AM, K.P. Senthil Kumar sekumar...@gmail.com wrote: The sufferer is the students I think the sufferer will comprise Students, Common man by paying more taxes ( in some way or other) , and more importantly the Linux. Why linux will suffer? It is due to the Windows comfort the students get. Since they are comfortable with one OS then they reject Linux even it is a better system. How many of us still use word, ppt, even though we have openoffice which is equal/better than MS office. My opinion is, if students get's one OS, let's say Linux and they are forced( yes) to use and learn Linux and Linux oriented applications like openoffice etc. Majority over the period will be fan and followers of Linux and supported applications than Windows. MS did the same in the 90's This would be good for FOSS Community as more Students would come in. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] TN Govt says No to Linux - issues new tender
Happy to hear Off from home On Sep 3, 2011 11:05 PM, Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Today's The Hindu carries clarification by the Minister for IT, TN has clarified that the laptops will be loaded with BOSS by ELCOT itself. I think all of us should be happy. Raman.P blog:http://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Malayalam and Hindi in ilugc list
hi, On behalf of Malayalam and Hindi speaking ilugc members, let me announce that we are going to start discussions in Malayalam and Hindi in ilugc list. There wont be any translations. But interested members can volunteer for that. Why??? regards, Ignacius ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists
Hi, On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Zico mailz...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Parthan SR parth.technofr...@gmail.com wrote: And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to read it through ;-) haha :D Come on!!! ;) @ALL Understood. There is no way out. regards, Ignacius ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Communicating in lists
hi, வணக்கம், In brief, if you don't have anything to say, don't say it, if you don't like what is written just ignore/delete it. Instead of spending so much energy on deciding which *language* we can communicate in, we should spend some time on communicating! And also please don't write a mail with 1945 words. Nobody is going to read it through ;-) தூங்குபவர்களை எழுப்பி விட முடியும் தூங்குவது போல நடிப்பவர்களை ... **We can wake up a person who is really sleeping but not the one who pretends to be sleeping regards, வாழ்த்துக்கள், Ignacius இக்னேசியச் ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை
Hi, This mail is intended to clear this issue out of our list(may be we can lay an example for such lists that have language diversity issues - rather than suppressing one group of people) and not bring in new fights. One good example is Linux users groups in France that are giving more importance to their native language - French(minimum English and maximum French) http://www.linux.org/groups/france.html We can't apply the same directly to Indian Linux users Groups as such because we have more than 20 official languages(think so). But, the official languages of the region in which the LUG is operating can be allowed to be used in it. Is this the scenario where some one suddenly comes here and asks not to use English in this list and use Thamizh instead of English. If someone did say that then they can be treated differently. But, People are questioned inappropriately just because their post is in Thamizh. In despair they reciprocate with some content that leads to a 50 post thread. We(all) can comment each other easily and find/get some short term enjoyment out of it. This thread won't stop and if it stops it is a small pause for another storm of messages in a similar thread where someone write in Thamizh. Let us put a final and strong stop for these threads(selection of communication language) with correct rectifications in mail list rules. List administrator can decide upon this(He can have a online meeting or offline meeting with list members) and send a final mail containing list of change to be made in our list with respect to different languages in posts. The delay between my last post and this one is due to some digging work done in earlier threads of same offensive nature. *We would be able to conclude considering the two factors that caused this issue :* 1. A General Classification of people here as members and will be as members in future(This categorization is not for segregation of any kind it is just for the sake of grouping people based on the languages they know where they reside.) 2. Ideology of people under each category. *Let me categorize the people who have posted here or a member of our list(* * based on member types in ideology perspective**):* 1. One who knows Thamizh well - ie., proficient in reading and writing (even if his mother tongue may or may not be Thamizh ; His mother tongue could be one among the 22 languages or so; He could have been in Chennai/any Thamizh speaking community in a certain period of time learnt it with love towards it) but is not familiar with English( he may or may not have the willingness to learn and use English) or can't read write in English as of now. 2. One who is proficient in Thamizh and English or at least who knows to read and write in both languages able to contribute in the translation effort here(translation of threads). 3. One who knows only English( ~Thamizh). *Reasons favoring people in category 1:* 1. He/She should be given chance here to interact freely in Thamizh.( This list describes itself as Indian Linux Users Group - Chennai), Chennai is the capital of Tamilnadu. Most people here would be from tamilnadu( ofcouse it has global members - but they have their own regional groups - almost all major cities in India and cities/towns/villages around the World). People stated that there can be TLUGC(Tamil Linux Users Group Chennai) then this list should have been ELUGC(English Linux Users Group Chennai). I am not mocking anyone nor the list but to bring out that such things are not actual solutions for this thread(It kindles new arguments). 1. Many members of ILUGC are here because they were/are residing in chennai for a period of time(past or present). 2. And a considerable amount of people here are the residents of Tamil Nadu(a major portion of whom may not know English but can/will turn out to be great contibutors of Linux/Opensource/Free Softwares not only in Translation but programming,testing, designing, concepts, etc.,). 2. My view is - He/She should be allowed to post in the regional language without separate rules while posting(India's constitution acts state that each Non-Hindi state has the right to practise/use its regional language and English. In non-Hindi states it would be Hindi instead of English - not another cold war from here ) 3. Based on the Indian Constitution acts and rights we have this situation where at least a single person (will be)/(is ) a member of this list who may not use English in his/her workplace or education system or home - in such case even if he would have learnt English it would have diminished in due course of time - Category 2 3 people need English in some or one of the three reasons so we are able to keep English in out mind. Non-Hindi states - states where Hindi is not a mandatory language can use/practise their regional language along with English. Even central government activities/transaction/business can be
Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை
hi all, People joining this list beware that posts will also be Tamil, the language of the state of Tamilnadu and tolerate and co-operate or learn Tamil. this is not the Linux Users Group of the State of Tamilnadu. It is the Chennai chapter of the Indian Linux Users Group. India is a country with around 35 major languages and hundreds of minor languages. People in ILUGC who are also member of Mumbai, Delhi, other metro and major cities' linux user groups kindly shed light on this. We can get to know whether people are allowed to post in their state language or English or their own mother tongue(those which are spoken by minimum people and the state language is different). And how they handle such threads. And, except for a few fanatics in a few cities, a country which enjoys this linguistic diversity and is very tolerant of other languages. Yes all indians respect each others' language. I appeal all Tamil people, also to post in Tamil. Yesterday I was alone and Padhu, Thanigai, Arun and few more have joined now :-) Here I am +1 so non Tamil people are not supposed to post in Tamil??? If they have such an interest towards the language tamil which has the second oldest grammar in Indian languages(Ofcouse tholkappiam's date may be even older) let them convert from beschi to veeramamunivarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constanzo_Beschi. We aren't forcing anyone. I expect more and more people join this initiative so that ten-twenty five years down the line we can dream the other way.. dream on - it will not happen. You are against dream come true A decade back the situation was different and now its totally different.. please go and start a Tamil linux group There are already a bunch of tamil linux user groups. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com If there is any suggested way to post in Tamil or English let everyone follow it. To my knowledge there are people who are not able to post properly in english get some sarcastic comments here. We can allow them to ask their questions in the state language(here tamil). *Solution for this issue : * *Thread specific:* *Thread strarting : *Let the thread starter post in the language he knows more - tamil or english. If he knows both lang(eng tam) let him add the translation or else some one who is proficient in both languages post translation. *Thread replies :* Replies can be both in English and tamil. If the translation from tamil to english or english to tamil is needed, whoever has free time can post replies in the thread with translations(I dont know whether this will be feasible). *Achievements:* Everyone gets answer/suggestion here. Even in archives there is answer for all questions. We can avoid this thread which gets started every 3 months... *Disadvantage: *Threads become big in size(twice or more. I know list admin wont allow this method). Some confusions may arise. Adding Thamizh or Tamil or Tamiz in the subject is needed when someone types tamil words with english alphabets. If the subject is in thamizh alphabets why ask some one to add Thamizh or Tamil or Tamiz in the subject. If so there will be a need for subject additions(If we all respect each other): Kannadam Malayalam Urudu Telugu etc., in all linux user groups. I posted the above to come to a conclusion let us not start a war from here. regards, Ignacius ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] how to enable the firewall in centos5.0?
hi, On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Wednesday 04 March 2009 18:59:02 ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: and how to enable the firewall? System -- Administration -- Security Level and Firewall thamizhil panna mudiaatha? een intha madiri englishkaarangal encourage panniitti varringiila? vetgam iliiya? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com தயவு செய்து தமிழ் சொற்களை முடிந்தவரை தமிழ் எழுத்துக்களால் எழுதுங்கள். Please write thamizh words with thamizh alphabets(preferably UTF-8) ஆங்கில எழுத்துக்களால் எழுதப்படும்(குறிக்கப்படும்) தமிழ் சொற்கள் படிப்பதற்க்கு ஏற்றதாக இல்லை. மேலும் தமிழ்மொழி தெரியாதவர்கள் அதனை ஆங்கிலம் என எண்ணி படிப்பதற்க்கான அவசியம் இருக்காது. Thamizh words written with English alphabets seem difficult to read and people who don't know to read thamizh need not think them as English words and read them. regards, Ignacius ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
