Re: [Ilugc] How to install ubuntu in Tamil Nadu Government Free Laptop?
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Siva prabu gsivapr...@gmail.com wrote: -- * Dear friends, Coming Dec 8 @ IIT. ANy one help me to install Linux. In the meantime, you might try to read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick and try to install yourself. If you have got a friend's computer, the Ubuntu CD or ISO image and a 2GB USB. You should be ready to go -- Regards Arunmozhi ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] How to install ubuntu in Tamil Nadu Government Free Laptop?
Hello Siva, On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Siva prabu gsivapr...@gmail.com wrote: * Dear Friends, How to install ubuntu in Tamil Nadu Government Free Laptop. Any one help me.I am new to linux. It is great that you are trying to get into the Linux world. There are basically two types of installs that people do in any PC. Single boot and Multiboot. Single Boooting involves using only one OS, like Windows only or Linux only. Multibooting involves using two operating systems like Windows and Linux or Two Linux systems in the same computer and choosing the operating system when powering on the computer. Choose your way first, do you want a Linux only or a Linux+Windows combination. Then use *Google* for that type of installation. There are a lot of tutorials and help available online. Thank you. regards, Sivaprabu. G * ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards Arunmozhi ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas)
Really Sad. I wanted to meet him sometime in my life. It is sad that the privilege has been denied. A no nonsense person. May his soul Rest In Peace. On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 03:25:29PM +0530, JAGANADH G wrote: Just now I got a message that our dear KG (Kenneth Gonsalvas) passed away. He was admitted in hospital due to Asthma attack and passed away today morning. Cremation will be held at ooty on 4th Aug 2012. \-- Very sad news. He will be missed. RIP -- Arun S A G PGP: 70C93A92 http://zer0c00l.in/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in IRC Nick: teco ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] duckduckgo
Hi, On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:27 PM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: hi, is it just me, or has duckduckgo stopped giving results? Yes, I am getting a blank page too. -- Regards Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in IRC Nick: teco ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] duckduckgo
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:38 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I am getting a blank page too. Er.. Excuse me. The same search query yielded results when I tried again. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Building RPMs in Ubuntu
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com wrote: and possibly creating a nightmare for yourself. It would be best to build the RPM in an environment where it will be used including it's specific version i.e. CentOS. With Virtual Box, it is quite easy to setup a VM with CentOS guest and carry on your RPM build process in it. Ok, forgot to update. I have setup my VMware with CentOS and the compilation has gone good, and have started writing things needed for packaging. Thank you helping out. -- Regards Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in IRC Nick: teco ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Building RPMs in Ubuntu
Hello all, I have been using Ubuntu (debian) system all through the Linux life. Recently I got into a situation where I am required to package a software for a RPM system (CentOS). There are rpm build tools available in the Ubuntu repos, but I my reading through the forums suggest that its always better to build rpms in a rpm based system. Considering we will be specifying the dependencies in the packaging configuration file and we will be packaging compiled binaries, How far does it hold good?. Has anyone packaged RPM things on Ubuntu or any other debian system? What are the issues you ran into? Is there really any compatibility issues? P.S: I am asking all this to avoid another OS installation and dev environment setup procedure. (Pardon my laziness here) -- Regards Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in IRC Nick: teco ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/1/2 Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com: How is this piracy-proof? It is not. But atleast more people will be willing to pay for it. Why Not? Apple's app signing is a good example for piracy proof way of using a AppStore to distribute software. If Ubuntu goes the same way with its paid apps, why can't MS get a piracy proof method? http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/licence-key-infrastructure/ - tells me there already a License infra to felicitate this. -- Regards Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in IRC Nick: teco ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:15 AM, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: what is your objection? Exactly. Whatever be the reason, Microsoft has a really good office suit. Or in other terms, most people have grown accustomed to it. If they make a linux version and make it a Pay App at the Ubuntu Software Centre, I think Microsoft has got themselves a piracy proof method to sell software. -- Regards Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in IRC Nick: teco ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] hi
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Suraj Kumar su...@careergear.in wrote: Why not something real challenging? Great advice. Throw in some things for him pick up too. That way it is more helping. -- Regards Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in IRC Nick: teco ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Thamizha ILUGC Hackathon Report
Hello all, A Hackathon was organized by the ILUGC and Thamizha community members on 9th October, Sunday at TalentSprint, Royapettai, Chennai. There were 16 participants in total. The morning session started with Arunan demoing the setting up of git and github accounts for the participants through Google Plus Hangout. Then an introduction of the code version using git and how to commit to Thamizha projects were given. There was a demo of Visaneri Project by Kishore Kumar through Google Hangout screen sharing. Then teams were divided based upon the personal fluency of programming languages. The projects that the teams set on to work on are: 1. Drupal team: Creating a new Thamizha.com site with close integration to the github and easy of use for the users to download software. 2. Python team: The python team started the work of moving an offline wiktionary from the wxPython GUI framework to the PyQt framework. 3. JavaScript Team: This team members were working on developing a new meaning lookup tool using the mediawiki API on the wiktionary site. 4. Content team: This team started to work on translating the gitref.orgcontent to Tamil. By evening Mugunthraj joined the rest of the team in the Hangout and demoed the entire compilation e-Kalappai software. I must confess we couldn't complete any of the projects by the evening, but this hackathon provided a nice platform for the developers to get together and get hooked into a project that they can work during their free time in future. A big thanks to Ashokan Pichai sir for offering the venue and the Kanchi LUG members for taking their time to come down to Chennai. Personally, I learned a number of lessons regarding event organizing and Open Source Volunteering. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Agenda for Thamizha and ILUGC Hackathon
Hello all, The Thamizha community and the ILUGC community are organizing a hackathon to create free software on October 9th. I request those who haven't registered to provide response at this form. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdtTVpzdXo4RlQzSU9zWGlfWjRYVmc6MQ The information is given below: Date: 9th October 2011 Time: 9AM to 5PM Venue: TalentSprint 66, Gaudia Mutt Road Royappettah Directions: On Radhakrishnan Salai, turn left at the Music Academy. After about 200 m there is a crossing -- the junction of LLoyds Road and TTK Road. After the junction TTK Road becomes Gaudia Mutt Road. Continue down and on the left TalentSprint is there. If you reach Ponnuswamy Hotel you have gone too far. :-) Agenda: 0. 8.30 - 9.00 AM: Arrivals and arrangements at the venue 1. 9.00 - 9.15 AM: Introduction to Thamizha Projects 2. 9.15 - 9.45 AM: A talk on using Git and Github thamizha organisation 3. 9.45 AM - 1.00 PM: Project idea discussions and coding. This can also be translation work for the non-techies. 4. 1.00 - 2.00PM: Lunch (Yay!) 5. 2.00 - 2.30PM: Introduction to Qt and e-Kalappai compilation 6. 2.30 - 5.00PM: More hacking. 7. 5.00 - 5.30PM: Time to say goodbyes and pack up. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Thamizha Developer Hackathon response sheet
Hello all, The ILUGC and Thamizha Community are jointly organizing a hackathon to create free and opensource software on 9th October at TalentSprint Royapettah. Kindly enter your details if you have any plans to attend, this is just to have the numbers and make arrangements accordingly. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdtTVpzdXo4RlQzSU9zWGlfWjRYVmc6MQ -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Attendance of Thamizha Developer Hackathon
Hello all, I have previously mailed the invitation for Thamizha Developer Hackathon which is supported by the members of ILUGC. This mail is to gather the attendance data to make arrangements accordingly. Kindly fill the following form if you any plans to attend. Its just a name and email (no spam intended) form to take the head count. The form is at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdtTVpzdXo4RlQzSU9zWGlfWjRYVmc6MQ -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] ILUGC Site Down
Hello ILUGC Admin, I recently wanted to have a peek into the ILUGC Site and found that ilugc.inthrowing a site notice that Account has been Suspended. Kindly lookup. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Site Down
I even tried using Opera mini it is still down. I hope the url is www.ilugc.in and it isn't something else. Sorry for top posting. Sent from mobile. On 9/29/11, Prasanna Venkadesh prasmai...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:56 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello ILUGC Admin, I recently wanted to have a peek into the ILUGC Site and found that ilugc.inthrowing a site notice that Account has been Suspended. yupp it is up for me too.. you can check here http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ -- Regards, Prasanna Venkadesh PuduvaiLUG (puduvai Linux Users Group): http://puduvailug.wordpress.com/ FOSS Jobs all over India: http://fossjobs.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Site Down
It seems that it is down just for me. Any pointers to solve? Even can't view in mobile :'( On 9/29/11, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:56 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.comwrote: Hello ILUGC Admin, I recently wanted to have a peek into the ILUGC Site and found that lugc.inthrowing a site notice that Account has been Suspended. What is the URL you tried? ILUGC's website is http://www.ilugc.in/ -- Arun S.A.G http://zer0c00l.in/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hackathon by Thamizha and ILUGC
Hello Sivakumar, Thanks for the praise. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:01 PM, sivakumar bharadhwaj calms...@gmail.comwrote: And loved the : directions for the venue. The Credit for the directions goes to Askoan Sir who offered the venue. I liked it and hence Ctrl+c Ctrl+v'ed it in the invitation mail. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FTC] Thamizha Develoepr Workshop Hack-a-thon - 9th October 2011
Hello Ashokan, On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Asokan Pichai paso...@gmail.com wrote: I can offer the venue. We have a 20-30 classroom setups -- ubuntu -- with reasonable broadband and leased lines. Great news. I think it would be more than sufficient for the hackathon. Can I mail you off the list to discuss other things like the location, travel routes etc..., Thank You for the offer. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FTC] Thamizha Develoepr Workshop Hack-a-thon - 9th October 2011
Hello Chennailites, I think we could run a parallel session here in chennai. A place to come together and a reliable connection for live streaming could connect us. Any volunteers? I can help organizing it. Any offers for the venue? A single broadband for the streaming would be the bare minimum requirement. Kindly try volunteering. On 9/21/11, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Arunan Skanthan arunan.skant...@gmail.com Date: 21 Sep 2011 08:27 Subject: [FTC] Thamizha Develoepr Workshop Hack-a-thon - 9th October 2011 To: freetamilcomput...@googlegroups.com Cc: Nimalaprakasan Skandhakumar nimalapraka...@gmail.com Hi All, We plan on having a workshop for entry level developers and enthusiasts, and anyone else who is interested. It will be a day of learning/working and socialising. The event will happen on the 9th of October (2011) from 1.00pm Brisbane time - which should be about 9am for those of you in .LK/.IN For those who cannot attend it in person we will have google hangouts and a skype channel open to join in on the fun! :) We will also try to record screencasts of the event for those who are unable to make it; but we really want you to join us for fun and socialising as well! If your in Brisbane you do get free food and beverages (it's on me) - Interested yet? :P (Sydney-siders grab that low fare flight, it will be worth it!) The agenda is as follows (length of presentation may change): 1. GitHub Introduction and Basics usage workshop (30mins). 2. Qt Compiler Basics of Interface and Compiling e-kalappai project (30mins) Lunch Break 3. Introduction to current status of some thamizha projects (30mins) 4. Hackathon Start - Ideas and Brainstorming session - Forming working teams - Working on project Tea Break 5. We will finish of with some more talks and socialising over dinner (unfortunately not available online :P). Please join us for this event... and even if you are not able to be physically there, maybe you can team up with local friends and have your own international event alongside us. If there is demand for it... I will be happy to bring the event to Melbourne and Sydney as well; or you can do it for your own city/town/place. Please show us interest... so we can add more topics or features if you request it. We are open to suggestions. Hopefully this will be first of many workshops+hackathons. Regards, Arunan -- @askalot Website: http://arunanskanthan.com --- Ariels in the sky. When you free small mind, you free your life... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ThamiZha! - Free Tamil Computing(FTC) group. To post to this group, send an email to freetamilcomput...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to freetamilcomputing+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/freetamilcomputing?hl=en-GB. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Freelancing or Part Time Work in a Particular Company
Hello all, I am a student currently enrolled to my PG course in Anna University, Chennai. I wanted to take up some sort of part time job (read as programming) somewhere here in chennai, so I could work on my weekends and gain a few notches in the career ladder. But a conversation on the IITM Hackers list gave me a new perspective. The line read: This might be beside the point - but if you are an RoR developer, you can earn more than a google job just by freelancing. Replacing ROR with anything suitable and considering the earning to be *not only money*, I was made to think about freelancing. And freelancing ofcourse had its own +and - like multiple clients, varied projects, flexible working hours(not just weekends), also strict time constraints that might be bad during those sem ends..etc., So I really wanted some expert advice on which way to go. Kindly state your views, experiences so that I could learn a few things and decide on my path. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Open Source software for Textile unit billing and inventory management
Thank you all for the information. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] How to make ILUGC list user friendly?
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: we need a josiyer to answer them ;-) Well said I should say. If you don't ask, it means you don't want the answer that bad. I have been flamed innumerable times on many lists worldwide for asking dumb questions or not asking questions properly - or people have been extremely rude even while giving the correct answers, or hints. But I persist, because I *need* the answers, and, after all, I am not paying these guys. There was this guy on IRC - insulted every one with pretty vulgar language, but had all the answers. I met several deadlines because of him. I by far is a beginner. Have met similar situations at various situations, been told to get out of channels, branded as dumb, hopeless and what not? I will suggest a technique that I follow online, that might help beginners in such situations. You know the question is dumb/silly, ask it and think that someone else has asked it, and watch that 'someone' getting bashed, and be that someone until you get the answer. Once you get your answer, you can drop that someone from your mind and get back to your work. This will help yourself by large. our list is user-friendly - we need to make some of our users list-friendly. No one is going to spoon feed anyone, and call you dear in technical mailing lists, so forget that goody-goody language and get seroius about the problem you are going to solve, all those *fear* that you say is no way going to answer your question, but sometimes bashing will get you to results. to sumup get thickskin. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Open Source software for Textile unit billing and inventory management
Hello, I have a friend who runs a textile unit. His father has been doing all his billing and inventory management in paper till now. He wishes to computerize them now. I would like you to suggest the way things are worked out in this area in open source. 1. Is there a specific package for this or generic ERP solutions are to be used? Comment about the customizations that can be done in generic ERP solutions. 2. By how are the ERP solutions generally deployed? Is it pay for both the software and service, or is free software available and people charge for the service and training? 3. And a dumb one. Suggest a package / service. Preferably free license, as he is going to test it out and convince his father before getting it deployed in real world. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] ubuntu
Hi Satish, On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Sathishkumar M msathishkumar180...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am studying B.E(EEE), any CAD software available in opensource. Because I am new to FOSS. If you are looking for a EDA solutions for shematics, PCB design...etc You can go for gEDA package and also EAGLE is available in Ubuntu Software centre (I donot know wether its the full version, but a restricted version can help you with college projects, I used the restricted version in Windows, it was enough). There is also dedicated Fedora distribution called the Free Elctronic Lab spin with a lot of tools to work with electronics. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [ilugcbe] Press Release for TN Free Laptop in English
I am posting this from my mobile, hence have on idea weather top posted or bottom posted. Kindly bear. If you could take a look at the first thread started on this regard, you could clearly see my views. I said this would just be a technical win with no actual benefits. If you have gone through the draft you could clearly see the explicit mention of windows strater. I would request everyone to go to the Wikipedia page on Windows 7 and see the support of the starter pack. You will come to know that one can neither become a photoshop ninja nor a autocad mastero with it. It doesn't even support dual core. So what you will end up getting is a supported hardware that is either outdated or that lacks juice. If they have floated the tender for home premium or professional edition I would have never helped draft this letter. I greatly welcome KG sir's way of drafting. But one reason i didn't explicitly mention our role is I am not sure how it would work out. Wouldn't it look like we are after a share of that 91.2 crores that we say we are saving. Are we going to say we would pay unpaid support? Whats the offer here. If the community could come to a consensus then I would be glad to change the draft the way it needs to be. And for the 'daunting thing', we are talking about school kids here not college students alone. I have personally known students who think a 30k laptop is 'duplicate' because someone has shown him a 50k one. Try explaining windows file structure and linux file structure to him. And at last to KG sir: Sir, please tell me why it shouldn't be bearing the community name? Is what we are doing degrading the community in any way. On 6/25/11, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: But there has been no consensus. I do not believe in press statements and petitions, but if I did draft one, it would be like this: We welcome the far-sighted initiative of the government in including Linux in the specifications for the free laptop scheme and we assure the government that we will do our best to extend technical support for students using linux. We however request the government to ensure that the linux installed is a fully fledged installation which works well with all the peripherals - and not some token installation. We are willing to provide expert help in choosing and installing this. +1 Perfect! regards, Arun ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [ilugcbe] Press Release for TN Free Laptop in English
One more thing for those who are going to run photoshop and autocad. How do you plan to use it? By paying for the license ? Then you can jolly well afford a windows license. Or going to use a pirated copy? Then use pirate windows too. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [ilugcbe] Press Release for TN Free Laptop in English
Sir, 2011/6/25 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com I see my comment is taken out of context. I am not suggesting what they are using (viz pirated/licensed copy), all that what i felt is exposure to doze may help the student to fetch a job. I am sorry, I wasn't clear and that earned me a OT. Of course its glad that they give Windows. If you could recollect, around 3 years back ELCOT said they were negotiating for 500 rupees with MS for the OS, and offered a Linux only system. Its a good improvement this time, but why spend on a useless stripped down version of it. You will have to spend on a better OS (upgrade) if you want to run all those packages, so why should the govt spend now? Thats why I said buy your own or get a pirated one for your needs. I am not interested in bolstering only linux as a solution to all problems, instead, promoting linux in a little way i could. FYI, I am conducting a gcc course for 7 days in birla planetarium for pre-engineering college students starting 4th of July 2011. I have read a lot of mails written by you in this mailing list and in no way think otherwise. I respect every member. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Press Release in Tamil for Free Laptop scheme in Tamilnadu
Hello all, There has been a lot of discussion going on about the Free Laptop scheme implemented by the Tamilnadu Goverment. It has been proposed that about 91.2 crores can be saved by going along a FOSS only implementation. A letter for the press release have been drafted in Tamil in this regard. It is available at https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1OpBI-kiwN5s0sUPsYKmhVZ-k7tFn_TdEurl3RrnEWB4 -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Press Release for TN Free Laptop in English
Hello all, The press release document regarding the adoption of a Linux only system for the Tamilnadu Students Free Laptop Scheme has been drafted in Tamil and has been posted in the list already. I am now posting the English version of the same. You can read it at https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1uajGtT4LQe4ORlAtFP9X6FifakzF8VFA240m4ydThSQ. Feedback welcome. Share it as you wish. P.S: It has been written with the intention of common man understandability, hence uses minimal tech Jargon. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Fwd: [ilugcbe] Press Release for TN Free Laptop in English
-- Forwarded message -- From: arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [ilugcbe] Press Release for TN Free Laptop in English To: ilug...@googlegroups.com On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: who gave you permission to use the LUG name? The issue has been discussed entirely on the mailing list and have been working with inputs Mr. T. Shrinivasan, from the same. So I thought it is going to be community effort of the LUG. Shrinivasan hasn't raised an issue with LUG name so far. Even said in a mail to ILUG-C mailing list he has been arranging a press conference. I think it would be better include him in this regard and ask the input from other LUG members, before deciding that. I will remove the name as of now. Done! -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS
- Interested students will learn Linux. There is no use forcing students to use Linux. I am Linux fan now. I love vi now. But I remember 15 years back when it was forced on me I hated vi. This produced a random thought in my mind. When Open Source is all about freedom, why force Linux on students and abstain them from opting for Windows? I think a linux only system not about freedom, its about FOSS injection/marketing whatever. Linux is the new Windows. May be a dual boot is the real freedom from students view. Isn't it ? -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 9:50 PM, openbala damodaran.bal...@gmail.comwrote: I can only assume that the Chennai Linux community is so shocked by such statements that there is no one replying or they're actually busy with writing letters to the government. I am not into the power circles or professional contacts, but I do my bit to contribute to Open Source and spread FOSS enthusiasm. If you have any doubts, go over to the public note where the letter is being drafted and user 'arunmozhi' contribution. http://sync.in/letter-to-tngovt . and also browse over to the thread regarding Press Release. You can see that I am helping my bit. I'm bad at comparisons and generalizations, but its like saying 'why stop giving free alcohol and force them to have only free healthy food?' Primarily i said it was a random thought, so I am welcoming your view. I am just trying to remind people that most of us who are working now on Linux started with Windows for learning computers (I know there wasn't a second choice at that time), so know that windows isn't a bad thing, but that Linux is a better thing. Dual booting isn't going to harm anyone! I said we shouldn't force Linux on people like Windows was once done (in above context), that way Linux would become the new windows. I hope every linux user would accept that Linux shouldn't be forced, but just be given as a choice and that is what FOSS is all about Freedom to choose and use as we like to. Please do some research on Microsoft the Windows operating system before saying that 'Linux is the new Windows' What ever research you do remember Big Corp games are everywhere including Linux and FOSS (need an example? Unity and Gnome Panel in Ubuntu) - May be thats worth a new thread. So lets us leave it or move over to new thread. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: where is free alcohol available? Beat that... :) -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: no - supplying company has to set up a service center in each district. The law may make the Service Center to be set up, but does everyone go to it? (Why travel 1hr when my next house friend can do it?) I never met a person who serviced his TV in any Govt mandated service center (If at all such a one exists). So my thought is that Even if we make the Govt to go for FOSS; Will the users be ready? Think of playing Games in Linux. I bet thats the first thing most school children would do. So I think we are just pushing the expenditure away from govt and towards the children making the money to flow away from single Co to local service centers and such. I think most of you would also at sometime be approached for ** repairing ** the ** useless ** laptop and make it ** workable **( Read as reformatting the Linux and make it boot Windows). Don't read me wrong, but thats what most people think and would do. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - Choice of OS
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Vivek Rajagopalan vi...@unleashnetworks.com wrote: Think of playing Games in Linux. I bet thats the first thing most school children would do. So I think we are just pushing the expenditure away from govt and towards the children making the money to flow away from single Co to local service centers and such. What I meant here is: Nobody (children) would dream of playing games in a Linux system and would surely try to get their systems Game Compatible (Windows). Anyways, even if the govt adopts Linux, Will the children who use it? What are the rules here ? Can the kids just sell the laptop and buy a gaming system ?? IMO most of the given systems (not all, but most) would be either sold away or be ** transformed ** into complete entertainment machines with partial educational benefit. So IMHO if LUG makes govt accept Linux only systems, it can be said a technical win for FOSS, but there would be no real benefits in real world. The migration to Windows would happen at any point. One idea is to hardware lock (say via a custom BIOS ??) the system into a single supported distro of Linux. They would have to carry the unit to a service centre to unlock it and install anything else - at which point they have to provide their student ID. Such checks are needed to maximize benefits of tax payer money. If such a thing happens, you will end up making a political mistake of giving Useless systems to school children and cheating people. The opposition would argue that why can't government give good systems by spending just extra 1K for a 20-30K product and instead cheat people in giving substandard and useless system. Believe me that is sure to be said. (Ha ha) -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Press Release to public regarding OS in the Free laptop
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: I request you to create a detailed writeup, so that we can share in the press, online media and submit to the government. I started here. http://sync.in/letter-to-tngovt Please help on creating a nice writeup. I have tried to put in the outline content as much as possible, but I think the letter wouldn't bear much value in its current state, we need to include Pricing details and Savings in terms of Facts and Figures using suitable charts and other info graphics. Only then would it be of more worth. Hence, if anyone has the corresponding data, post it or still better, make a chart to be included in the letter. Or if you donot have the time to work post it as a shared Google Doc, I or someone might use the data to create required chart. Those who know the figures kindly post it. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Created a Web Application which sends an Email once Downloads on Firefox Complete
Quick thoughts: #001 Why do you commit .swp and .pyc files? Git only tracks changes in content. #002 Add a LICENSE file indicating the license under which the sources are released. #003 Add a copyright, header notice in each source file. #004 Run pylint on your *.py and fix the warning/error messages. #005 Any reason to have not used json? You have commented its import in python/register.py http://docs.python.org/library/json.html #006 Please follow PEP8 guidelines. For example: class names use the CapWords convention. Try to be consistent across your source files. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ @Shaktimaan Thank for the guide lines. Its really useful in many ways. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Created a Web Application which sends an Email once Downloads on Firefox Complete
Saw the application. Good Work! But I would like to know the real world application though. Why Should be notified via e-mail when you can see the download status at the browser window itself? May be something like leaving the system ON when going outside for large downloads? Kindly explain.. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Portable application in DVD
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Rajesh kumar rkrajeshkuma...@gmail.comwrote: How to create a portable application in DVD so that whatever os is there he should access the application using browser. What do you mean by access the application by browser? Do you mean file manager of the OS? -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects
First, its great to hear the news. I wish I had this kind of support last year when I was in final year..:( We have 2 semesters. We can use 1 semester for training and the next for project development. Students will be available from 3.30 - 5.30 pm daily. We have to plan for the following things. 1. Trainers who can goto college in person to train the students 2. List of open source projects to contribute 3. Mentors for the students If their availability can be guaranteed with internet connection, I think it would be a good idea to create a dedicated IRC channel for initial training periods. I have been seeing IITMHackers club organizing tutorial sessions purely on IRC for things like VIM, Python ..etc. It also introduces them to IRC channels which hosts highly technical discussions related to OpenSource technologies. We need a huge list of project as all the students have to do individual projects. While individual projects can really help in improving a student's capabilities and knowledge, I still feel a team of two can be permissible (just an optional one), so that they can discuss and work better on the projects. We need more persons to participate in the huge project of turning students into contributors. I am still a student by lot, and would be grateful to assist the Mentors in any way possible. So kindly count me in, as a intermediate person. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Request for a Team to guide college students for open source projects
If their availability can be guaranteed with internet connection, I think it would be a good idea to create a dedicated IRC channel for initial training periods. I have been seeing IITMHackers club organizing tutorial sessions purely on IRC for things like VIM, Python ..etc. It also introduces them to IRC channels which hosts highly technical discussions related to OpenSource technologies. I would like to add one more reason: people like me can help the students through online discussions even off the official hours of 3.30 to 5.30 through these channels. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Bluetooth internet connectivity
Hello Alok, I have been using my mobile phone in Ubuntu for over a year now. I hope this solution will work for you. This solution instead of using ping to check every time instead uses bind to perform pairing like thing. Kindly go through the forum post of the link below. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111455 -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ILUGC]summer training/internship
Hi Aditya, On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM, aditya foryouforever. adits.g...@gmail.com wrote: hii luggies, I want to know that is there any internship opportunity for the month of may and june which is to be conducted for the pre-final year students on php,ruby on rails,mysql. I donot know any particular offer, but can direct you somewhere. Kindly check out www.twenty19.com/interships and if it is,care to mention the timing and schedule of that. The offers listed there have the complete details. There are even offers which let you work from home. aditya ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ILUGC]summer training/internship
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:37 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Aditya, On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM, aditya foryouforever. adits.g...@gmail.com wrote: hii luggies, I want to know that is there any internship opportunity for the month of may and june which is to be conducted for the pre-final year students on php,ruby on rails,mysql. I donot know any particular offer, but can direct you somewhere. Kindly check out www.twenty19.com/interships Excuse me, I made a typo. it is http://www.twenty19.com/internships and if it is,care to mention the timing and schedule of that. The offers listed there have the complete details. There are even offers which let you work from home. aditya ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Making a Career in FOSS [New Business]
Hello all, I am grateful to everyone of you for responding to my questions. Most of you apart from just answering my question, have gone great lengths to explain many things related to it. Even new threads have been created discussing the topic. I think my mail not just helped me but a lot others. I have deliberately postponed my thank you mail to this thread hoping something new and useful would be added. I was right, in the past one week though many things were posted the last mail came telling me of mentorship which is untouched until now. Everyone's mail helped me as much as it helped others who read this thread. Some were motivating, some encouraging, some warning, some explaining, some discussing; nevertheless everything was useful. Thank you all who have contributed in the past week. I think we could wrap up the thread for good now, which not necessarily restrict you in adding anything, just to put an end to the discussion. Thank you all. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
I think the differentiation was meant to place languages like PHP, Python, Perl opposite to propertiery system based languages such as Visual Basic, C#, . . .etc On 3/2/11, thoufi .racer46 thoufi.race...@gmail.com wrote: what do you mean by open source languages? AFAIK the compilers or the IDE's can be open source for that matter but what are open source languages? btw, I am a regular reader :) Make a view into it http://www.linuxforu.com Thanks man for letting me to know it...i think that Phython,Perl,Php and Mysql are open source languages..then it called?? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] LINUX FOR U
I don't really think there is any such classification in the real world or at least not anything officially. What I am trying to put forth is just a line of differentiation that would help us to see a distinction between propertiery based languages and those languages that are open source based. As for the question of classifying c/c++, why go for such a high level language? you can take up assembly language or BASIC FORTRAN for that matter. The reason for them to not to be placed on either side is that they were the ones on the first placed which ushered the development of both open source and closed sourced systems. So there is nothing like a strict protocol that defines the distinction of languages. But rather the distinction is meant to help you chose between PHP and ASP or between visual studio based languages and Qt based ones. I hope I have justified the term open source languages. On 3/2/11, Thoufi Tiger thoufi...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the differentiation was meant to place languages like PHP, Python, Perl opposite to propertiery system based languages such as Visual Basic, C#, . . .etc Friend ,then how these languages were developed by..though PYTHON provide a high level user experience ...so by programs does they hav developed?? ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Making a Career in FOSS [New Business]
Hello All, I am a final year BE student. While most of my mates are sincerely searching for a spot in the corporates, me and two of my friends cherish a dream of creating a business for ourselves. We got something like a few website development offers and that has motivated us further. But we are not really going to stick to web development as such and want to get into customized application development and software deployment. I recently saw a message in the NCR Python Users Group India discussing Data Mining tool for collecting data from Excel Documents and displaying them on web pages. I think these are some untapped areas of software deployment, at least here in India. So, now the questions in my mind are: 1. Can we really survive as a company creating application specific or customized software for situations like the one I have mentioned above? 2. Is there really market for such software and services in India? Kindly keep in mind FOSS. 3. If there is a possibility to survive. Are we going to be judged by the work we do or by the industry experience we have or supposed to have? (Remember I am still at college) 4. At last, how much are we going to be paid for these kind of jobs? Keeping in mind that depends on the quality of work we do and our ability to negotiate, I would like to know the scale where I would be starting. I request whoever reading this mail to give your views and ideas. P.S: If possible repost this mail in the mailing lists you prefer appropriate. I do not know anyone in the field of software or startup as of now. -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] apt-get is not working
After seeing your output in the Paste I think the issue is not with apt-get but something else. I could only find out that far. I donot know what the exact problem is. You are looking at the wrong place I think. On 2/28/11, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com wrote: Hello , For some reasons, apt-get is not working in my laptop , i am running on ubuntu 9.10 .. i have illustrated my problem at http://paste.ubuntu.com/573571/ any pointers, thanks in advance.. regards, Thyagararajan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards P.Arunmozhi Twitter: @tecoholic Website: http://arunmozhi.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Grub errror
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Elango Rangan elangoran...@ymail.comwrote: Hi, Iam Using Ubuntu 10.4, Try ubuntuforums.org. The forum has been very helpful for my while dealing with my GRUB probelms. Most of the issues have already been discussed there. and its the dual OS system. I have a grub error problem(showing in command prompt) during the linux boot . I am not able to enter into the linux desktop. Error Message: Minimal Bash-like editing is supported for the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions. Thanks R. Elangovan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
