Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-05 Thread Venkatraman S
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Vamsee Kanakala vkanak...@gmail.com wrote:

 While that is also true, most end users are not dumb either, so if we can
 sell them the concept of Linux in a simple manner, they will understand it.
 People don't exactly know what Intel Inside means, but they know it stands
 for a proven piece of technology that runs their PCs.

 If we can convey to people that Linux is free, open and secure and why they
 should care about it in a simple manner, I think even end-users respond to
 that. It's quite similar to why some people pay more to get greener cars: if
 they know the benefit, they'll go the extra mile. But I agree with your
 larger point though - if somebody is going to have to pay for educating
 consumers on a massive scale, a commercial entity that aligns with those
 interests is one of the more viable options.


Quiet true. I have been able to tell people regarding Linux and its single
biggest merit when compared with Windows - 'security'. Even the n00bs
understand the relative non-virus nature of Linux.

Also, along similar lines, i was able to get a client of mine to convert to
Linux(webfaction) from Windows(hostgator). He understood the licensing part
the low cost associated with running of the servers and its maintenance.

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[Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-04 Thread பத்மநாதன்
Dear ILUGCs,
   I saw BOSS Linux Advertising in sun network Tamil
channel. Is NRC-FOSS also turn into commercial side?

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Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-04 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
2010/6/5 பத்மநாதன் indianath...@gmail.com:

 I saw BOSS Linux Advertising in sun network Tamil
 channel. Is NRC-FOSS also turn into commercial side?

BOSS is handled by NRC-FOSS - C-DAC. Commercial is part of their agenda.

Bye :)
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Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/05/2010 05:53 AM, பத்மநாதன் wrote:
 Dear ILUGCs,
I saw BOSS Linux Advertising in sun network Tamil
 channel. Is NRC-FOSS also turn into commercial side?
   

While I wouldn't really wish BOSS Linux on anyone and I am not a fan of
the entire initiative, I would hope that advertising on these mediums
increases awareness of Linux and FOSS in general and it is very much
welcome IMO to engage in commercial activities if it serves that
purpose.  As this is a government sponsored initiative, my concern is
for my tax money to be used in a effective way to improve the life of
the people in this country and if by deploying FOSS we can accelerate
the process, then it is money well spend. 

Rahul

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Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-04 Thread Satish Eerpini
 While I wouldn't really wish BOSS Linux on anyone and I am not a fan of
 the entire initiative, I would hope that advertising on these mediums
 increases awareness of Linux and FOSS in general and it is very much
 welcome IMO to engage in commercial activities if it serves that
 purpose.  As this is a government sponsored initiative, my concern is
 for my tax money to be used in a effective way to improve the life of
 the people in this country and if by deploying FOSS we can accelerate
 the process, then it is money well spend.

I have seen the BOSS Linux ad on other regional channels too, but the
problem is they advertise it as Linux and not BOSS or atleast BOSS
Linux , it reads as so and so program is sponsored by Linux, Rexona,
Clinic Plus  etc etc 
not good.

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Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-04 Thread Vamsee Kanakala

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

As this is a government sponsored initiative, my concern is
for my tax money to be used in a effective way to improve the life of
the people in this country and if by deploying FOSS we can accelerate
the process, then it is money well spend. 


+1. They can do (and have done) much worse with that money, so it's a 
consolation, I guess :)



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Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/05/2010 08:24 AM, Satish Eerpini wrote:
 I have seen the BOSS Linux ad on other regional channels too, but the
 problem is they advertise it as Linux and not BOSS or atleast BOSS
 Linux , it reads as so and so program is sponsored by Linux, Rexona,
 Clinic Plus  etc etc 
   

It is pretty much impossible to explain Linux or FOSS within a few
seconds of advertising and if you try to conceptualize it, you will end
up with something like the IBM Linux super bowl ad.  Just in case you
haven't seen that, take a look at 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4

I am not sure that is very effective.   Although it is a not a TV ad,
Red Hat's series of films
(http://www.redhat.com/videos/opensource/films.html) including Truth
Happens are quite popular and always evoke a great response.  End users
don't care about Linux or Windows or whatever.  That is a implementation
detail that people with a fascination for technology talk attach
themselves to and that is always going be a very tiny minority. 
Consumers care about specific products if it makes a difference in their
lives.  People care about their iPod's because it plays their music. 
They don't care the operating system it runs or the format of the
music.   So effectively,  if at all you see TV ads or ads via any medium
with Linux in it, it is guaranteed to be associated with a
(commercial) product.  Be it BOSS Linux or IBM on demand services or Red
Hat or Novell etc. 

We shouldn't be lamenting about it because regardless of the specific
product being advertised, it raises the profile of Linux on the whole. 
When I originally started out with Linux,  when I mention it in
bookstores or something, they would try and correct me and ask if I was
talking about UNIX.  That problem went away years back and that is a
positive step.  I think these ads might help regardless of whether BOSS
Linux itself succeeds in the market place or not.   In short, a rising
tide lifts all boats. 

Rahul



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Re: [Ilugc] BOSS Linux Advertising

2010-06-04 Thread Vamsee Kanakala

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

End users
don't care about Linux or Windows or whatever.  That is a implementation
detail that people with a fascination for technology talk attach
themselves to and that is always going be a very tiny minority. 
Consumers care about specific products if it makes a difference in their
lives.  People care about their iPod's because it plays their music. 
They don't care the operating system it runs or the format of the
music.   


While that is also true, most end users are not dumb either, so if we 
can sell them the concept of Linux in a simple manner, they will 
understand it. People don't exactly know what Intel Inside means, but 
they know it stands for a proven piece of technology that runs their PCs.


If we can convey to people that Linux is free, open and secure and why 
they should care about it in a simple manner, I think even end-users 
respond to that. It's quite similar to why some people pay more to get 
greener cars: if they know the benefit, they'll go the extra mile. But I 
agree with your larger point though - if somebody is going to have to 
pay for educating consumers on a massive scale, a commercial entity that 
aligns with those interests is one of the more viable options.



Vamsee.
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