Re: [ilugd] gpl3 talk + ubuntu = bliss
I have Ubuntu 7.04 and Kubuntu 7.04 CDs (i386 versions), if anybody wants to copy. Vikas On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:12:41PM +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: hi, eben moglen's talk on saturday at iic was highly-stimulating. i saw quite a few people clicking photos, recording videos, and perhaps blogging etc. could you please point me notes, transcripts or other logs of his wonderful talk? it requires a more thorough read and study to assimilate his vast array of ideas. at the end of the talk a few people approached me for cds of ubuntu. soon the outside desk was happily converted into 'cd-sharing'. ubuntu 7.04 discs shared: 1) 64-bit version 2) standard version. 3) alternate-iso. this is for systems that can't handle the graphic installer. 4) ubuntustudio. you may collect the following people for further requesting and sharing cds: 01) karunakar, who copied a few to his laptop. 02) anand shankar, on to his thumbdrive. 03) Satyakam Goswami . . . quite a few other people also copied cds to their laptops, and to some i just gifted the extra copies i had. can't recall everyone's name at this moment. could you all please share your names here if you wish others to contact you for further copies? thanks. all of us happy folks missed kenneth gonsalves. but am sure if anyone contacts him, he would be happy to share cds of ubuntu with everyone, too. he's NRC-FOSS, and a great guy for community-building. :-) niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
On 6/11/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, the DU url mentioned earlier is up, but no press release or news of 5,000 ubuntu dualboot desktops. search produced no results either. anybody from DU here on the mailing list, who could point us to a press release or announcement. i am keen to slashdot and digg it. on another note, just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux (Ubuntu) loaded.. thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating! Karunakar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
Except that HCL laptops are rather badly engineered. We have two, and from very early on, every screw seems to be loose and their switches keep coming off. So, do watch out. Vikas On Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 05:17:58PM +0530, G Karunakar wrote: On 6/11/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, the DU url mentioned earlier is up, but no press release or news of 5,000 ubuntu dualboot desktops. search produced no results either. anybody from DU here on the mailing list, who could point us to a press release or announcement. i am keen to slashdot and digg it. on another note, just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux (Ubuntu) loaded.. thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating! Karunakar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] eben moglen on tv
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: True. But I would like to ask if broadcasts made by a public broadcaster can be shared for non-commercial public sharing. How is it done the world over? afaik, this isnt possible using straight broadcast material. Some content companies and establishments will make an alternative copy available online either on their website or someone else's website and attach a more liberal licensing policy with that. Nothing broadcast using conventional means is ever really liberally licensed. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
G Karunakar wrote: On 6/11/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, the DU url mentioned earlier is up, but no press release or news of 5,000 ubuntu dualboot desktops. search produced no results either. anybody from DU here on the mailing list, who could point us to a press release or announcement. i am keen to slashdot and digg it. on another note, just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux (Ubuntu) loaded.. thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating! Dell too offering preloaded Ubuntu Linux. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/ubuntu?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs -- Best Regards, Sameer N. Ingole ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
thanks shams for the quick response. as a fellow author, here's what i've learnt the hard way, so am just sharing: any authored work must either state its copyright ownership with year, or must be dedicated to the pubilc domain. you can't just leave it fuzzy in today's bankrupt world. ;-) if you state it copyright, and wish it to be shared, then you must publish it under a copyleft license, such as fdl, or verbatim, or choose an appropriate one from creativecommons. you could also write your own license, but in almost all cases the above two options work. hth :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
[snip] on another note, just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux (Ubuntu) loaded.. thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating! Karunakar actually there's a whole bunch of vendors in india who officially sell linux-based hardware. the problem is once the hardware is installed at customers' sites, do they even boot into linux? so would be wonderful to hear of 'genuine linux advantage' stories, if you know what i mean. ;-) am hoping the DU is one of them. :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
On 6/12/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] on another note, just heard about HCL also selling laptop with Linux (Ubuntu) loaded.. thankfully with the earlier farce of linux laptops not repeating! Karunakar actually there's a whole bunch of vendors in india who officially sell linux-based hardware. the problem is once the hardware is installed at customers' sites, do they even boot into linux? well i think this time is a bit better that its a full desktop (unlike the text mode farces done by the likes of Acer etc..) only they may need bit of help here on how to get their mp3s,dvds, divx playing... but nyways once the usual demands of running more doze stuff comes its back to square one. Karunakar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
G Karunakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: well i think this time is a bit better that its a full desktop (unlike the text mode farces done by the likes of Acer etc..) Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant stall of the local linux User Group. Few stalls away, I chanced upon a crowd gathered around few machines/laptops. The machines with the biggest crowd around them were running gnu/linux in console mode. ;) -- Mahesh T. Pai http://paivakil.blogspot.com/ If your mail client does not support HTML, click here ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
--- Mahesh T. Pai wrote: G Karunakar writes: Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant stall of the local linux User Group. Few stalls away, I chanced upon a crowd gathered around few machines/laptops. The machines with the biggest crowd around them were running gnu/linux in console mode. ;) Ah, what were they demonstrating? -- FSF of India Associate Fellow - http://www.gnu.org.in S K Somaiya College of ASC- http://www.somaiya.edu/sksasc ubunturos @ freenode Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/webmessengerpromo.php ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
On 12-Jun-07, at 6:36 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: any authored work must either state its copyright ownership with year, or must be dedicated to the pubilc domain. not so. Copyright arises from the fact of publication. And unless the author states so, all rights are reserved. If he wants to license the work, then he has to state the terms of the license. Please learn to distinguish between copyrigth, license and patent -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
On 12-Jun-07, at 8:48 PM, Mahesh T. Pai wrote: well i think this time is a bit better that its a full desktop (unlike the text mode farces done by the likes of Acer etc..) Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant stall of the local linux User Group. Few stalls away, I chanced upon a crowd gathered around few machines/laptops. The machines with the biggest crowd around them were running gnu/linux in console mode. ;) freaks are the biggest attractions in circuses ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
On 6/12/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12-Jun-07, at 6:36 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: any authored work must either state its copyright ownership with year, or must be dedicated to the pubilc domain. not so. Copyright arises from the fact of publication. And unless the author states so, all rights are reserved. If he wants to license the work, then he has to state the terms of the license. Please learn to distinguish between copyrigth, license and patent Kenneth Gonsalves thanks kenneth for the clarification, however, what i'm saying is that in today's 'bankrupt age' this is what *i've* learnt the hard way: a) that you must explicitly assert your copyright ownership by explicitly stating it while publishing. [to be understood in the current state-of-affairs] b) the license must also be stated *IF* the author wishes to share it with some forms of flexibility for end-users and others. c) am also trying to point out how we need to take proactive but careful steps towards authoring for the public domain, while still alive. :-) thanks kenneth for the clarifications, and yes i am quite aware of the differences between copyright, copyleft, license, patent, and trademark. plus, have been advising and trying to orient publishing businesses in all forms of media to consider how to explicitly state these aspects of their authored works. the best talk i've heard in india on this topic was delivered a few years ago by dr ajay shah that was truly quite inspiring. would be wonderful to invite him to deliver a talk on this and the gpl3. he always has interesting insights to share. :-) niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] 5,000 ubuntu desktops at delhi university
Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Mahesh T. Pai wrote: Once at an IT exhibition, I chanced upon the vacant stall of the local linux User Group. Few stalls away, I chanced upon a crowd gathered around few machines/laptops. The machines with the biggest crowd around them were running gnu/linux in console mode. ;) Ah, what were they demonstrating? Laptops running GNU/linux. -- Mahesh T. Pai http://paivakil.blogspot.com/ Distribute Free Software -- Help stamp out Software Hoarding! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
