Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Hi all Just been reading this thread, how about Thinkpads from IBM? Don't they come with Linux pre-installed? cheers pratul -- Incoming! Freed.in 2009, 20-21 February. dum vivimus, vivamus. http://pratul.in ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Linux Lecture @ Sikkim Manipal
Hi ! All I am student of Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology in 3rd Year. I have proposed a Workshop at my college next year in Jan-Feb 2009 based on Network Security Issues. The course duration is 30 Hrs may be spawning to 10 days. *I shall be highly grateful and obliged if one of you FOSS specialist and Linux Enthusiasts could pay a visit to Sikkim at my college Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology just to deliver a couple hour motivational speech on Network Security and Linux. The topic is a bit flare and vague but still if Technical Talk would be there in the workshop by a professional it would add to the flavor. The college shall pay the visiting and accommodation fees and other expenses if any.* Thanks in Advance Amar Akshat -- V.P , AGE No More a Certified Ethical Hacker, Dept. Of Computer Engineering, Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Tech. Where You See a Feature I See a Flaw.. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Lecture @ Sikkim Manipal
Sir what is this No More a Certified Ethical Hacker please explain this :) -- Best Regards Ajay Bramhe Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. You are what you repeatedly do. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:01 PM, amar akshat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! All I am student of Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology in 3rd Year. I have proposed a Workshop at my college next year in Jan-Feb 2009 based on Network Security Issues. The course duration is 30 Hrs may be spawning to 10 days. *I shall be highly grateful and obliged if one of you FOSS specialist and Linux Enthusiasts could pay a visit to Sikkim at my college Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology just to deliver a couple hour motivational speech on Network Security and Linux. The topic is a bit flare and vague but still if Technical Talk would be there in the workshop by a professional it would add to the flavor. The college shall pay the visiting and accommodation fees and other expenses if any.* Thanks in Advance Amar Akshat -- V.P , AGE No More a Certified Ethical Hacker, Dept. Of Computer Engineering, Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Tech. Where You See a Feature I See a Flaw.. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
dear karanbir, always refreshing and stimulating to hear from the bleeding-edge from you. [snip] do you want linux preinstalled for hardware compatibility check or to not pay the MS tax ? in case its the latter, you might be able to get a refund, or just not pay for it upfront. Vendor dependant. am through with the 'anti-ms' emotion long ago. don't care about them anymore. am only interested in 100% linux hardware compatibility on my gear. thus, looking for a high-end laptop that comes pre-installed with gnu/linux with all the bits at 100% compatibility. i am currently not aware of the level of compatibility with 3d graphics-card (ati/nvidia) and sound-cards or usb-based sound-devices. to get a laptop that handles extreme crunching of pixels, stores bucketloads of them, speed-demons through multi-track live recording, and all this using, say, ubuntustudio, would be thrilling. humm... perhaps. But most people find it more convenient to have a 'parked' crunching setup, and only use the laptop as a front end. Since traditional hardware formats are much more 'upgrade' friendly and always a couple of steps ahead of the laptop curve ( eg, 4 GB ram in a desktop machine, with 4 cores is now 'baseline', where as baseline laptops are nowhere near ), it means longer life and higher return on investment with that. will obviously get a monster custom-assembled desktop/workstation for myself. that has always been my policy since circa 1985. by choosing not to compromise on desktops, whether macs or more recently assembled-pcs, i always tend to get much-better returns on my hardware and longer product-life too. one of the most common problems with most commodity hardware is with digitizing audio. the internal circuitry may generate 'noise' as people don't really care about shielding and isolation. getting 3d graphics cards to natively work a 100% with full-functionality under linux is another unix|pipe dream. I might have agreed with you on this a few years back, but given that most large scale studios are now either completely linux based, or moving to be linux based - I'd think atleast someone has solved these issues. okay, now this statement has tugged my goat with glee! have been experimenting with linux-based audio for almost five years. do agree it has become studio-ready since perhaps a year and a half. the adoption of linux-based studios, in my experience, in india is a nice, big, zero. most studios and setups are on pcs, and a cult-tribe on macs. kishore bhargava did mention once, that one of his friends runs a complete setup on linux, but on pressing on never got further details from here. you paint the opposite picture. i would quite appreciate to know more about such studios. would you have urls, pointers, or even contact-info. would love to get in touch with them. am also quite convinced linux will soon capture this vertical market completely, unlike with foss-based video and animation, and with professional graphic-design. yes, i know linux has been ruling the roost in hollywood animation and the film-industry since several years, but with proprietary packaged software, and especially with custom-code that never sees the light of day outside the studios. hence the key operative word 'foss-based' above. regards niyam -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Lecture @ Sikkim Manipal
Dear Sir, Actually No More Certified Ethical Hacker was the title i chose after being enlightened by the ilugd that hacking is always ethical. Earlier I had once appeared for a certification program by EC-Council regarding EH. Amar Akshat On 11/26/08, Ajay Bramhe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sir what is this No More a Certified Ethical Hacker please explain this :) -- Best Regards Ajay Bramhe Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit. You are what you repeatedly do. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:01 PM, amar akshat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! All I am student of Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology in 3rd Year. I have proposed a Workshop at my college next year in Jan-Feb 2009 based on Network Security Issues. The course duration is 30 Hrs may be spawning to 10 days. *I shall be highly grateful and obliged if one of you FOSS specialist and Linux Enthusiasts could pay a visit to Sikkim at my college Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology just to deliver a couple hour motivational speech on Network Security and Linux. The topic is a bit flare and vague but still if Technical Talk would be there in the workshop by a professional it would add to the flavor. The college shall pay the visiting and accommodation fees and other expenses if any.* Thanks in Advance Amar Akshat -- V.P , AGE No More a Certified Ethical Hacker, Dept. Of Computer Engineering, Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Tech. Where You See a Feature I See a Flaw.. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- V.P , AGE No More a Certified Ethical Hacker, Dept. Of Computer Engineering, Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Tech. Where You See a Feature I See a Flaw.. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Lecture @ Sikkim Manipal
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:01 PM, amar akshat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! All *I shall be highly grateful and obliged if one of you FOSS specialist and Linux Enthusiasts could pay a visit to Sikkim at my college Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology just to deliver a couple hour motivational speech on Network Security and Linux. The topic is a bit flare and vague but still if Technical Talk would be there in the workshop by a professional it would add to the flavor. The college shall pay the visiting and accommodation fees and other expenses if any.* Let me get this straight - For couple of hrs talk you willing to pay for travel to and fro from Delhi to Sikkim plus lodging Hmm, how cold does it get in January in Sikkim?? Thanks in Advance Amar Akshat Regards, Jasbir ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Lecture @ Sikkim Manipal
Hi Jasbir, The thing is that we dont actually have the culture of guest lecturers in SMIT. However I am willing to start that. If one could spare a day or two for taking classes I shall be highly obliged. As far as cold , SMIT is like in valley , situated beside the river Teesta. And its not very cold , a couple of pullovers will do.! Gangtok and others r chilling but SMIT is like ..dwellable . thanks Amar Akshat On 11/26/08, Jasbir Khehra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:01 PM, amar akshat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! All *I shall be highly grateful and obliged if one of you FOSS specialist and Linux Enthusiasts could pay a visit to Sikkim at my college Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Technology just to deliver a couple hour motivational speech on Network Security and Linux. The topic is a bit flare and vague but still if Technical Talk would be there in the workshop by a professional it would add to the flavor. The college shall pay the visiting and accommodation fees and other expenses if any.* Let me get this straight - For couple of hrs talk you willing to pay for travel to and fro from Delhi to Sikkim plus lodging Hmm, how cold does it get in January in Sikkim?? Thanks in Advance Amar Akshat Regards, Jasbir ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- V.P , AGE No More a Certified Ethical Hacker, Dept. Of Computer Engineering, Sikkim Manipal Institute Of Tech. Where You See a Feature I See a Flaw.. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Well, i searched the internet and asked my friends. After all this, i found out that acer is giving a good configuration for a lesser price. Can anyone tell me their or their friends' expirience with Acer?? And I sent a mail to DELL asking about Linux/Free DOS. So they called me up today and told me that they will give me DELL inspiron 1525 with: CPU: intel core 2 duo: 2.0 GHz Memory: 2GB @ 667MHz HDD : 160GB SATA and other regualr stuff...2MP cam, bluetooth, 6 cell battery and more details can be found here: http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/featuresdetails.aspx/inspnnb_1525?c=inl=ens=dhscs=indhs1~lt=popup And all this without Windows vista and MS works, they are giving Free DOS. They quoted the price at Rs. 34,802 (including some taxes, they gave me rebate on 4% VAT). But if you look at the left most configuration in the link, you will see the price at Rs. 35,900 (exclusive of taxes). So, you see, there is not much of a difference in price. I dont get it. Are windows and MS works worth this small amount only? -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
And all this without Windows vista and MS works, they are giving Free DOS. They quoted the price at Rs. 34,802 (including some taxes, they gave me rebate on 4% VAT). But if you look at the left most configuration in the link, you will see the price at Rs. 35,900 (exclusive of taxes). So, you see, there is not much of a difference in price. I dont get it. Are windows and MS works worth this small amount only? No, actually they are not even worth that much ;-) I just got a Dell XPS M1330, and Ubuntu works flawless on it Swapnil ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Linux Lingam wrote: am through with the 'anti-ms' emotion long ago. don't care about them anymore. am only interested in 100% linux hardware compatibility on my gear. thus, looking for a high-end laptop that comes pre-installed with gnu/linux with all the bits at 100% compatibility. i am currently not aware of the level of compatibility with 3d graphics-card (ati/nvidia) and sound-cards or usb-based sound-devices. Take a look at http://www.emperorlinux.com/ - their Gazelle series come with an ATI X1600 and seems to work out of the box ( again, not sure how shipping / support into India will work though! ) w.r.t USB sound, would the creative extigy hit 'acceptable' quality ? there seem to be a couple of projects that claim 100% functionality for the exaudio on linux. Most skype branded usb handsets come up as usb-audio devices, so its reasonable to assume that atleast some form of usb-audio does work :D yes, i know linux has been ruling the roost in hollywood animation and the film-industry since several years, but with proprietary packaged software, and especially with custom-code that never sees the light of day outside the studios. hence the key operative word 'foss-based' above. Actually, yes that is true. The people I know, in that line of business are the people I've seen and worked with, which are FilmLight, Hammerhead and Canon. None of these guys specialise in Audio, but all have audio capability strapped onto their main product - Video. btw, hammerhead do a lot of their work with open source stuff as well, its not all prop! -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Formatted Windows partition and OpenSUSE 11.0
Hi, One of my friend just installed OpenSUSE 11.0 on his desktop and during installation process he formated ALL windows partitions. Immediately after the installation he realised that he forgot to take backup of emails in Outlook Express. Is it possible to recover data from formatted windows partition? How? regards, amit Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
