Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
yoo hoo! linux newbie! are you still shaking in your knees and quivering in fear for having dared ask the otherwise helpful 'linux-delhi' GUIs a question? congratulations all for showing understanding. anymore oliver twists out there, please come forward, we have more surprises for you ! LL To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
RE: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
> > OK, so are we agreed that we're setting out this afternoon to
> > Change the World and Rescue It From The Evil Empire rather than
> > Quibbling Over Terminology? ;-)
>
> The "From" should be "from".
Now we need a English grammar sub-list too ... {;-)
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Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
Raju Mathur wrote: >> "Venky" == D Venkatasubramanian >> writes: > > >> [snip] > Venky> And while advising other people not to quibble over > Venky> nomenclature, you yourself spent time writing the > mail, Venky> instead of doing something useful. > > Venky> Aw shucks, I am doing the same ;-) > > OK, so are we agreed that we're setting out this afternoon to > Change the World and Rescue It From The Evil Empire rather than > Quibbling Over Terminology? ;-) The "From" should be "from". points[ghane]++ -- Sanjeev "saving the world one nitpick at a time" Gupta To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 15:11, Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > Wrong, First Linux is just a kernel there is no such operating system > as linux. GNU is the OS. and its NOT like Microsoft windows. > but please get your own facts straight before preaching. oops! slipped my mind, should've said GNU/Linux, sorry :) vivek To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
RE: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
> "Venky" == D Venkatasubramanian writes: >> [snip] Venky> And while advising other people not to quibble over Venky> nomenclature, you yourself spent time writing the mail, Venky> instead of doing something useful. Venky> Aw shucks, I am doing the same ;-) OK, so are we agreed that we're setting out this afternoon to Change the World and Rescue It From The Evil Empire rather than Quibbling Over Terminology? ;-) -- Raju -- Raju Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ It is the mind that moves To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
RE: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
> -Original Message- > From: Raju Mathur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:59 AM > To: multiple recipients of > Subject: Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice > > > > Please don't confuse opinions with facts. In your opinion Linux is > just a kernel. In mine it's the whole OS. Those are opinions. The > fact is that people spend more time quibbling over terminology than > actually doing something useful. Call it Linux, GNU/Linux, Microsoft > Linux, Unix, whatever you want but please don't expect the rest of the > world to adhere to your nomenclature rules as the ultimate truth. What do you mean by the OS, 1) The Kernel 2) The Kernel + Associated Utilities 3) The Distribution In my opinion, the utilities are disjoint to the Kernel. It is pretty simple to explain to a layman that the distribution is the Linux OS, but in such a forum as ILUGD, it would be more appropriate if we talked about the OS as just being the kernel. And anyways, there's much squabbling going on between RMS and his supporters and the opposition, don't just start another war. And while advising other people not to quibble over nomenclature, you yourself spent time writing the mail, instead of doing something useful. Aw shucks, I am doing the same ;-) Venky > > Regards, > > -- Raju > -- > Raju Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://kandalaya.org/ > It is the mind that moves > > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
> "Pankaj" == Pankaj Kaushal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Pankaj> On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:26:59AM +0530, vivek wrote: vivek> Linux is an operating system just like Microsoft windows, vivek> using which Pankaj> Wrong, First Linux is just a kernel there is no such Pankaj> operating system as linux. GNU is the OS. and its NOT like Pankaj> Microsoft windows. /ducking and running *wonder what I'll Pankaj> get from raju for this one.* Pankaj> dear vivek, Pankaj> very nice mail and probably will be helpful for the Pankaj> newbiee too but please get your own facts straight before Pankaj> preaching. Please don't confuse opinions with facts. In your opinion Linux is just a kernel. In mine it's the whole OS. Those are opinions. The fact is that people spend more time quibbling over terminology than actually doing something useful. Call it Linux, GNU/Linux, Microsoft Linux, Unix, whatever you want but please don't expect the rest of the world to adhere to your nomenclature rules as the ultimate truth. Regards, -- Raju -- Raju Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ It is the mind that moves To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:26:59AM +0530, vivek wrote: vivek> Linux is an operating system just like Microsoft windows, using which Wrong, First Linux is just a kernel there is no such operating system as linux. GNU is the OS. and its NOT like Microsoft windows. /ducking and running *wonder what I'll get from raju for this one.* dear vivek, very nice mail and probably will be helpful for the newbiee too but please get your own facts straight before preaching. -- $you = new YOU; honk() if $you->love(perl); To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
hmm why do u wanna in the firt place ok i f u have finally decided..there r s many sites which provide u enuf info slowly move over to linux by first browsing the net (that'll require u to install u're modem first if its internal then bye bye if its a cable network connection find out ways how to start the net) and then start with the sound card and starting the x windows if u survive this far then we can go further "Kapoor, Nishikant X" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > What is Linux? > > How/where to learn linux? > > I am using computers since last six months only & do not > > know any computer language. I am using computer to get > > business / product information through Internet & E-mails. > > Please suggest. > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject >header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
Re: [ilugd]: FW: linux & novice
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 01:37, Sandeep Singh Kohli wrote: > hmm why do u wanna in the firt place > ok i f u have finally decided..there r s many sites which >provide u enuf info > slowly move over to linux by first browsing the net (that'll require u to install >u're modem first if its internal then bye bye if its a cable network > connection find out ways how to start the net) > and then start with the sound card and starting the x windows > if u survive this far then we can go further > > "Kapoor, Nishikant X" wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > What is Linux? > > > How/where to learn linux? > > > I am using computers since last six months only & do not > > > know any computer language. I am using computer to get > > > business / product information through Internet & E-mails. > > > Please suggest. > > > -- hi Linux is an operating system just like Microsoft windows, using which you can perform all of your daily tasks such as searching the internet, checking your emails, chatting, graphics, word processing and any use which is possible in windows (almost). If you are absolutely new to linux, i'd recommend you get a linux distribution (RedHat Linux 8.0 / Mandrake Linux 9.0), and install it on your machine. If you already have windows, then set it up as dual-boot, i.e. run windows or linux (one at a time) as per your requirements. Installation of linux is not very difficult, and you can easily do it with the instructions given while installation. If you've any questions, obviously you can post it to the list. After installation, one of the requirements would be to get on the internet, that depends what kind of connection you're on. if you're on a dial-up, then you'll need to configure your machine for dial-up access. RedHat (?), Mandrake both will set it up for you while installation (remember to keep your modem switched on while installing linux). there is limited support for internal modems, though i've easily worked with a motorola sm56 internal modem. If there is a cable connection, there is help available. if its dsl, then you'll need to ensure that you're modem is compatible with linux (most probably it'll be a usb modem, and it'll not be compatible). more details would be required, whether its a home system or a system inside a network. After you're connected, various applications are available to do your daily activities Email Client : Ximian Evolution (its an MS Outlook Clone) Web Browser : Mozilla, Galeon, Konqueror Graphics : GIMP File Manager : Nautilus/Konqueror Notepad : Gedit/Kedit Chat : Gaim, Ymessenger, Everybuddy, Xchat, chatzilla MP3 player : xmms, noatun Video player : Xine, xmms, noatun, gtv Personal finance manager : GNUcash Archiving : File roller Office suite: Openoffice.org, KOffice, Abiword, Gnumeric apart from that there are many applications like calculators, consoles, control panel for managing your applications, games and everything yu can think of (well almost ;) ). all this is for desktop use. you can also use it as servers e.g. web server, mail server, database server, file and print server, ftp server, chat server...phew. with linux yu'll get great reliability (my system's uptime is 23 days 7 hours and 11 minutes without a single reboot), free from virus attacks, user level access control (by default), and you'll be a part of an open community with people helping each other out. You may start with www.linuxnewbie.org, in linux, the graphical setup is known as "X", you can also search http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@wpaa.org in case of any problems, or post queries here at [EMAIL PROTECTED] vivek To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in subject header. Check archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd%40wpaa.org
