[IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning

2007-05-30 Thread Len Conrad

Guys, appears our IMGate is having some issues receiving these Google
Alerts and I am not finding a real reason why.

never heard of it.

As always, what's in the logs?

My guess is that these alerts are entertainment type stuff that 
aren't retried after 450 grey-list rejection.

If IMGate is rejecting, what's wrong with whitelisting the google.com PTRs?

Len




[IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning

2007-05-30 Thread Rod Dorman
On Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 11:12:33, Grant Griffith wrote:
 Guys, appears our IMGate is having some issues receiving these Google
 Alerts and I am not finding a real reason why.  I know I could whitelist
 their servers, but I do not want to do that.  Has anyone seen this and
 found another solution?

Seen what?  I didn't see a single postfix log entry in your posting.

Look  in the headers of the alerts you did receive to find out what sets
of  IP  addresses  they  go out with and then search your logs to see if
theres any evidence that they're trying to contact your machine.

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  removing bugs from a program, ends when people get
  tired of doing it, not when the bugs are removed.




[IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning

2007-05-30 Thread Len Conrad

Looks like that might be what is happening.  I thought it was strange
that it never retried at all after seeing this in the logs...

May 30 06:56:54 mx1 postfix/smtpd[5547]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
wr-out-0708.google.com[64.233.184.243]: 450 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 5 minutes;
from=3D[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to=3D[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=3DESMTP
helo=3Dwr-out-0708.google.com

ok, that's the useful log line.   you aren't seeing a retry ?

Does SQLgrey auto-whitelist an IP or ClassC the way postgrey does?

By placing the google PTR's in the mta_clinets_w.map file I should be
fine then?

if it's referenced in main.cf before the SQLgrey line.

I hate putting IP's in there, specially of a free email
service.

Probably not a big risk.  yahoo bulk mailer  IPs used to be be pure 
spam, but I haven't heard that gmail has a similar problem.

Len




[IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning

2007-05-30 Thread vrataj
Now that I think about it, google calendar notifications are not making it 
through our greylisting.

Does anyone have a list of google mx servers (not gmail).


- Original Message - 
From: Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: IMGate@mgw2.MEIway.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:29 AM
Subject: [IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning



Guys, appears our IMGate is having some issues receiving these Google
Alerts and I am not finding a real reason why.

never heard of it.

As always, what's in the logs?

My guess is that these alerts are entertainment type stuff that
aren't retried after 450 grey-list rejection.

If IMGate is rejecting, what's wrong with whitelisting the google.com PTRs?

Len






[IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning

2007-05-30 Thread Rod Dorman
On Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 11:56:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now that I think about it, google calendar notifications are not making it
 through our greylisting.

 Does anyone have a list of google mx servers (not gmail).

Assuming  that you are planning on white listing them what you need is a
list  of their servers that send e-mail which isn't necessarily the same
as the list of servers that accept e-mail.

-- 
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Rod Dorman   person who knows the secret of how to keep the
 managers away from anything truly important.




[IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning

2007-05-30 Thread Grant Griffith
I have whitelisted a couple of the addresses that I know of, if anyone
has a full list, that would be great.

Here is what I found in my logs...
#google servers for alerts
64.233.184.240 ok
64.233.184.241 ok
64.233.184.242 ok
64.233.184.243 ok
64.233.184.244 ok

Thanks,
Grant Griffith
Web Application Developer
Enhanced Telecommunications
http://www.etczone.com
812-932-1000

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To: IMGate@mgw2.MEIway.com
Subject: [IMGate] Re: FW: Google Alert - window cleaning


Looks like that might be what is happening.  I thought it was strange
that it never retried at all after seeing this in the logs...

May 30 06:56:54 mx1 postfix/smtpd[5547]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
wr-out-0708.google.com[64.233.184.243]: 450 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 5 minutes;
from=3D3D[EMAIL PROTECTED]
s
.bounces.google.com=20
to=3D3D[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=3D3DESMTP
helo=3D3Dwr-out-0708.google.com

ok, that's the useful log line.   you aren't seeing a retry ?

Does SQLgrey auto-whitelist an IP or ClassC the way postgrey does?

By placing the google PTR's in the mta_clinets_w.map file I should be
fine then?

if it's referenced in main.cf before the SQLgrey line.

I hate putting IP's in there, specially of a free email
service.

Probably not a big risk.  yahoo bulk mailer  IPs used to be be pure=20
spam, but I haven't heard that gmail has a similar problem.

Len