[indiana-discuss] FF3 freezes with build 95.. Can we install FF2 , will it work ?

2008-08-21 Thread Sriram Natarajan
Hi
  Seems that if users have lot of live RSS feeds within their bookmark, 
then Firefox 3 freezes regularly. This seems to be a known issue and fix 
for this might not come in until 3.0.3 or above . Thought, other users 
running into this 'frequent freeze' might be interested in this.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38t=736555start=15

 Now, in this context, is it okay to install  FF2 from IPS repository  
while using  build 95 ? For example, can I do some thing like below ? Is 
there any dependency or issues that I need to be aware of ?

pfexec pkg refresh
pfexec pkg uninstall SUNWfirefox
pfexec pkg install pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.86


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Re: [indiana-discuss] [desktop-discuss] 2008.11 UI Spec

2008-08-21 Thread Jedy Wang
Hi Calum,

The current tooltip for gok is Type and navigate applications using
alternative input devices and the suggested one in the UI spec is
Navigate applications and type using alternative input devices. The
only change is reordering. Is this really what we want?

Regards,

Jedy

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Re: [indiana-discuss] [desktop-discuss] 2008.11 UI Spec

2008-08-21 Thread Ivan Wang
 Hi Calum,
 
 Why we want to change GIMP Image Editor to Image
 Editor when we
 change Move Player to Totem Movie Player with an
 internal patch.
 

To show or not to show applications' own branding/name seems an issue would be 
brought up once in a while, but my own humble, little, tiny $0.02 is that I 
prefer to see the names of applications instead of a general description like 
Browse Internet or Movie Player or Image Editor 

For one reason I think it's sorta salute to the application and author(s) 
behind it.
another is that I feel better if I know what to be launched before any 
icon/button is clicked rather than after.

My $0.02 anyway.

Ivan.
 


 I also do not think Play movies and music is better
 than Play movies
 and songs.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jedy
 
 
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Re: [indiana-discuss] [desktop-discuss] 2008.11 UI Spec

2008-08-21 Thread Jedy Wang
On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 01:16 -0700, Ivan Wang wrote:
  Hi Calum,
  
  Why we want to change GIMP Image Editor to Image
  Editor when we
  change Move Player to Totem Movie Player with an
  internal patch.
  
 
 To show or not to show applications' own branding/name seems an issue would 
 be brought up once in a while, but my own humble, little, tiny $0.02 is that 
 I prefer to see the names of applications instead of a general description 
 like Browse Internet or Movie Player or Image Editor 
 
I am OK with both to show or not to show the application's name. but I
think if we decide to not show the application's name, we should keep
consistent.

Regards,

Jedy
 For one reason I think it's sorta salute to the application and author(s) 
 behind it.
 another is that I feel better if I know what to be launched before any 
 icon/button is clicked rather than after.
 
 My $0.02 anyway.
 
 Ivan.
  
 
 
  I also do not think Play movies and music is better
  than Play movies
  and songs.
  
  Regards,
  
  Jedy
  
  
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Re: [indiana-discuss] FF3 freezes with build 95.. Can we install FF2 , will it work ?

2008-08-21 Thread Frank
Hi Sriram,

just give it a try :-) Looking forward to your experiences. I also like to go 
back to FF2 on my test env w/ b95. 

This question was asked on desktop-discuss due to some FF3 annoyances. Those 
got fixed (for me) but the question of downgrading was unanswered.

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Re: [indiana-discuss] [Fwd: beadm: Unable to activate opensolaris-x (build 95)]

2008-08-21 Thread Rob McMahon
andrew wrote:
 Booting a ZFS pool from an EFI labelled disk has never been supported. I 
 suspect they have just added checking for an EFI labelled disk in a recent 
 build of beadm.

 Can you possibly post the output of these commands:

 fdisk /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0p0
 fdisk /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s0
   
t0 shows
  Partition   StatusType  Start   End   Length%
  =   ==  =   ===   ==   ===
  1   ActiveSolaris2  1  3039930399100
t1 shows
  Partition   StatusType  Start   End   Length%
  =   ==  =   ===   ==   ===
  1 EFI   0  3040030401100
Obviously when I added the second disk, it created it with an EFI 
label.  I don't remember making any such decision, I think it's done 
this as a default action.
 I suspect what you have is an SMI labelled disk (c5t0d0) and an EFI labelled 
 disk (c5t1d0). How did you add the second disk to the root pool?
   
I think you're spot on.  I just did `zpool attach rpool device'.  Seems 
like it's worked before just by chance.
 (Bootadm should be printing the reason for the failure. Users should not be 
 expected to activate secret debugging options just to find out why a command 
 failed).
   
Absolutely.  I half remembered this discussion, and went looking for the 
magic environment variable without success.  (Once I saw the error 
message, I also went googling, but couldn't spot the discussion, now 
it's been confirmed I'll go looking again.)

I'm tempted to just detach the device, try the activate, reboot into the 
new system, fdisk the second device by hand, and re-attach.  Like I say, 
it's only a workstation, not a production machine.

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Re: [indiana-discuss] [desktop-discuss] 2008.11 UI Spec

2008-08-21 Thread Calum Benson

On 21 Aug 2008, at 07:59, Jedy Wang wrote:

 Hi Calum,

 Why we want to change GIMP Image Editor to Image Editor when we
 change Move Player to Totem Movie Player with an internal patch.

It's a very good question :)

FWIW, the reason we change Movie Player - Totem Movie Player is  
that, at one time, we had three media players on the JDS menus: Totem,  
Java Media Player and Real Player.  So the Totem change was just to  
help users tell them apart.

Of course, that doesn't apply to OpenSolaris, and in Nevada, it's less  
of a problem now that JMP is gone from the menus.  But Songbird seems  
to be very popular now, and we may even install it by default at some  
point.  So the Totem patch is probably still useful.

For GIMP, I suggested the change just because we have no other image  
editors on the menus for users to be confused with.  When that's the  
case, we prefer to show only the functional name on the menus.  (I'm  
not even sure if there are any other 'image editors' for Solaris that  
users might want to install themselves, that would need to be  
distinguished from GIMP.)

(FWIW, gimp is also an American slang word for a handicapped person,  
so it's potentially a slightly offensive term to some people.  But  
given how popular the GIMP project has become without any major  
complaints about the name, that's only a very small concern... and  
anyone who runs the application will immediately be shown a GIMP  
splash screen anyway.)

So anyway, that's the reason :)  I agree this is a low priority  
change.  If there are more important things you need to be doing to  
get the UI spec implemented, or if you think we're already generating  
too many trivial patches for menu changes, I'd be happy enough not to  
make this change for GIMP.


 I also do not think Play movies and music is better than Play  
 movies
 and songs.


It's certainly not worth changing, if that would be the only change we  
were making to that desktop file.

I suggested it only because the GNOME docs team tends to prefer the  
term Music to Songs-- not all music files are songs.  (Nor are all  
audio files music, of course, but there isn't really any good  
generic, non-technical term for audio files, or we'd use that  
instead.)

Of course, we now also have a Music folder in GNOME by default,  
which reinforces the use of that term.

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: [indiana-discuss] [desktop-discuss] 2008.11 UI Spec

2008-08-21 Thread Calum Benson

On 21 Aug 2008, at 09:08, Jedy Wang wrote:

 Hi Calum,

 The current tooltip for gok is Type and navigate applications using
 alternative input devices and the suggested one in the UI spec is
 Navigate applications and type using alternative input devices. The
 only change is reordering. Is this really what we want?

I re-ordered it because the original wording just doesn't read very  
well, in English-- it suggests that gok helps you type applications  
and navigate applications.  But obviously, type applications  
doesn't make sense.  T

he correct punctuation without re-ordering would be Type, and  
navigate applications, using alternate input devices, but that also  
reads a bit clumsily for a tooltip.

However, I suggest you don't bother making this change for now.  I've  
cc'ed Willie Walker-- perhaps he can make this change in GOK upstream  
for us, and we'll just pick it up when it's done :)

Thanks,
Calum.

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Re: [indiana-discuss] [desktop-discuss] 2008.11 UI Spec

2008-08-21 Thread Willie Walker
Here you go!  I know the GOK maintainer well, and will prod him to get
to this:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548859

If he doesn't do it, and I remember, I'll commit it with his permission.

Will

On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 13:57 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
 On 21 Aug 2008, at 09:08, Jedy Wang wrote:
 
  Hi Calum,
 
  The current tooltip for gok is Type and navigate applications using
  alternative input devices and the suggested one in the UI spec is
  Navigate applications and type using alternative input devices. The
  only change is reordering. Is this really what we want?
 
 I re-ordered it because the original wording just doesn't read very  
 well, in English-- it suggests that gok helps you type applications  
 and navigate applications.  But obviously, type applications  
 doesn't make sense.  T
 
 he correct punctuation without re-ordering would be Type, and  
 navigate applications, using alternate input devices, but that also  
 reads a bit clumsily for a tooltip.
 
 However, I suggest you don't bother making this change for now.  I've  
 cc'ed Willie Walker-- perhaps he can make this change in GOK upstream  
 for us, and we'll just pick it up when it's done :)
 
 Thanks,
 Calum.
 

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Re: [indiana-discuss] http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ package repository update (build 95)

2008-08-21 Thread Chris Ridd

On 20 Aug 2008, at 23:11, Dave Miner wrote:

 Chris Ridd wrote:
 On 18 Aug 2008, at 18:31, Dave Miner wrote:
 David Orman wrote:
 Hi,

 When attempting to download via the torrent:

 [00:11:36] Error regarding osol-0811-95-global.iso:
 rejected by tracker - Torrent unauthorised
 [00:11:36] rejected by tracker - Torrent unauthorised

 Anybody else having any luck?

 Seems to have been corrected now, but please follow up if you're  
 still
 seeing problems there.  I see Al pointed out the genunix mirror, and
 we're going to try to coordinate more closely on future image   
 releases.
 Dave, I am still getting torrent unauthorised from the tracker  
 on  16969, and Unknown error (0) from the tracker on 6969.  
 Apologies if  I've got the terminology wrong, but it basically  
 still won't let me  share.

 It's working for me at the moment, I'm wondering if we're having  
 some intermittent tracker failures.

Well I downloaded the torrent again, and now I do not get the  
authorisation error when I try to reconnect afterwards.

Did the torrent change at all?

Cheers,

Chris

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Re: [indiana-discuss] update from b86 to b95: unable to update grub

2008-08-21 Thread Evan Layton
Hello Gerard,

What does the command zpool status show you? It appears that
update_grub thinks that /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0 is attached to the
root pool as part of a mirror and it's that device that looks
like it's getting all the errors. What does fdisk show for
/dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0?

It would also be helpful to see what zfs list shows.


-evan

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello all,
 
 200805 b86 is installed on a sun ultra 20, with two disks mirrored.
 I've got this error:
 
 -bash-3.2# pfexec /mnt/boot/solaris/bin/update_grub -R /mnt
 Creating GRUB menu in /mnt
 bootadm: failed to determine fdisk partition: /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0
 bootadm: is_bootdisk(): cannot determine BIOS disk ID 'hd?' for disk: 
 /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0
 Installing grub on /dev/rdsk/c5t0d0s0
 stage1 written to partition 0 sector 0 (abs 16065)
 stage2 written to partition 0, 266 sectors starting at 50 (abs 16115)
 Creating GRUB menu in /mnt
 bootadm: failed to determine fdisk partition: /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s0
 bootadm: failed to get grubsign for root: /mnt, device /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s0
 Installing grub on /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s0
 cannot open/stat device /dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s2
 
 
 the disks are:
 0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 9726 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
 1. c5t1d0 ATA-ST380815AS-B-74.53GB
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
 
 /dev/dsk/c5t0d0s0 is part of active ZFS pool rpool. Please see zpool(1M).
 /dev/dsk/c5t0d0s1 is currently used by swap. Please see swap(1M).
 Part  TagFlag CylindersSizeBlocks
0   rootwm 262 - 9725   72.50GB(9464/0/0) 152039160
1   swapwu   1 -  2612.00GB(261/0/0)4192965
2 backupwu   0 - 9725   74.50GB(9726/0/0) 156248190
 -bash-3.2# bootadm list-menu -R /mnt
 The location for the active GRUB menu is: /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
 bootadm: no matching entry found
 -bash-3.2# bootadm list-menu
 The location for the active GRUB menu is: /boot/grub/menu.lst
 bootadm: no matching entry found
 
 but the machine correctly boot the actual BE:
 -bash-3.2# beadm list
 
 BEActive Active on Mountpoint Space
 Name reboot   Used
   -- - -- -
 opensolaris-2 no nolegacy 2.12G
 opensolaris-1 yesyes   legacy 4.22G
 opensolaris   no no-  8.40M
 
 -bash-3.2#  /sbin/biosdev
 0x80 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
 0x81 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
 
 
 What's the problem? Is there a way to verify if grub is correctly installed?
 
 thanks in advance for help,
 
 gerard
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Re: [indiana-discuss] update from b86 to b95: unable to update grub

2008-08-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Evan Layton wrote:
 Hello Gerard,
 
 What does the command zpool status show you? It appears that
 update_grub thinks that /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0 is attached to the
 root pool as part of a mirror and it's that device that looks
 like it's getting all the errors. What does fdisk show for
 /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0?
 
 It would also be helpful to see what zfs list shows.
 

here are the infos:

-bash-3.2# zpool status
   pool: rpool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
config:

 NAME  STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
 rpool ONLINE   0 0 0
   mirror  ONLINE   0 0 0
 c5t0d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 c5t1d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors


-bash-3.2# format
Searching for disks...done


AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 9726 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63
   /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
1. c5t1d0 ATA-ST380815AS-B-74.53GB
   /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0

selecting c5t0d0
[disk formatted]
/dev/dsk/c5t0d0s0 is part of active ZFS pool rpool. Please see zpool(1M).
/dev/dsk/c5t0d0s1 is currently used by swap. Please see swap(1M).

partition p
Current partition table (original):
Total disk cylinders available: 9726 + 2 (reserved cylinders)

Part  TagFlag CylindersSizeBlocks
   0   rootwm 262 - 9725   72.50GB(9464/0/0) 152039160
   1   swapwu   1 -  2612.00GB(261/0/0)4192965
   2 backupwu   0 - 9725   74.50GB(9726/0/0) 156248190
   3 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
   4 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
   5 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
   6 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
   7 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
   8   bootwu   0 -07.84MB(1/0/0)16065
   9 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0

Specify disk (enter its number): 1
selecting c5t1d0
[disk formatted]
/dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0 is part of active ZFS pool rpool. Please see zpool(1M).
partition p
Current partition table (original):
Total disk sectors available: 156285070 + 16384 (reserved sectors)


Part  TagFlag First Sector Size Last Sector
   0usrwm   256   74.52GB  156285070
   1 unassignedwm 0   0   0
   2 unassignedwm 0   0   0
   3 unassignedwm 0   0   0
   4 unassignedwm 0   0   0
   5 unassignedwm 0   0   0
   6 unassignedwm 0   0   0
   8   reservedwm 1562850718.00MB  156301454


it seems that the second doesn't contains the same inforamtion than the 
first one. The mirror was created at indiana installation.

-bash-3.2# zfs list
NAMEUSED  AVAIL 
  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
rpool  45.9G  25.0G 
60K  /rpool
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  19.5K  - 
55K  -
rpool/ROOT 6.43G  25.0G 
18K  /rpool/ROOT
rpool/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0  - 
18K  -
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris 8.40M  25.0G 
  2.75G  legacy
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1   4.29G  25.0G 
  2.92G  legacy
rpool/ROOT/[EMAIL PROTECTED]   59.9M  - 
  2.22G  -
rpool/ROOT/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-05-30-05:29:40   406M  - 
  2.75G  -
rpool/ROOT/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-08-20-12:06:34   165M  - 
  2.64G  -
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/opt709M  25.0G 
   709M  /opt
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 72K  - 
  3.60M  -
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-05-30-05:29:4038K  - 
   595M  -
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-08-20-12:06:34  0  - 
   709M  -
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-2   2.12G  25.0G 
  3.01G  legacy
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-2/opt 32K  25.0G 
   709M  /opt
rpool/ROOT/opensolaris/opt   79K  25.0G 
   595M  /opt

AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 9726 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63
   /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
1. c5t1d0 ATA-ST380815AS-B-74.53GB
   /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 

Re: [indiana-discuss] http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ package repository update (build 95)

2008-08-21 Thread Dave Miner
Chris Ridd wrote:
 On 20 Aug 2008, at 23:11, Dave Miner wrote:
 
 Chris Ridd wrote:
 On 18 Aug 2008, at 18:31, Dave Miner wrote:
 David Orman wrote:
 Hi,

 When attempting to download via the torrent:

 [00:11:36] Error regarding osol-0811-95-global.iso:
 rejected by tracker - Torrent unauthorised
 [00:11:36] rejected by tracker - Torrent unauthorised

 Anybody else having any luck?

 Seems to have been corrected now, but please follow up if you're  
 still
 seeing problems there.  I see Al pointed out the genunix mirror, and
 we're going to try to coordinate more closely on future image   
 releases.
 Dave, I am still getting torrent unauthorised from the tracker  
 on  16969, and Unknown error (0) from the tracker on 6969.  
 Apologies if  I've got the terminology wrong, but it basically  
 still won't let me  share.
 It's working for me at the moment, I'm wondering if we're having  
 some intermittent tracker failures.
 
 Well I downloaded the torrent again, and now I do not get the  
 authorisation error when I try to reconnect afterwards.
 
 Did the torrent change at all?
 

I checked with the operations people, nothing showed up in the logs, but 
they'll turn up the logging to see if we can catch anything should 
problems recur.

Dave
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Re: [indiana-discuss] update from b86 to b95: unable to update grub

2008-08-21 Thread Evan Layton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Evan Layton wrote:
 Hello Gerard,

 What does the command zpool status show you? It appears that
 update_grub thinks that /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0 is attached to the
 root pool as part of a mirror and it's that device that looks
 like it's getting all the errors. What does fdisk show for
 /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0?

 It would also be helpful to see what zfs list shows.

 
 here are the infos:
 
 -bash-3.2# zpool status
pool: rpool
   state: ONLINE
   scrub: none requested
 config:
 
  NAME  STATE READ WRITE CKSUM
  rpool ONLINE   0 0 0
mirror  ONLINE   0 0 0
  c5t0d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0
  c5t1d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0
 
 errors: No known data errors
 
 
 -bash-3.2# format
 Searching for disks...done
 
 
 AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
 0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 9726 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
 1. c5t1d0 ATA-ST380815AS-B-74.53GB
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci108e,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
 
 selecting c5t0d0
 [disk formatted]
 /dev/dsk/c5t0d0s0 is part of active ZFS pool rpool. Please see zpool(1M).
 /dev/dsk/c5t0d0s1 is currently used by swap. Please see swap(1M).
 
 partition p
 Current partition table (original):
 Total disk cylinders available: 9726 + 2 (reserved cylinders)
 
 Part  TagFlag CylindersSizeBlocks
0   rootwm 262 - 9725   72.50GB(9464/0/0) 152039160
1   swapwu   1 -  2612.00GB(261/0/0)4192965
2 backupwu   0 - 9725   74.50GB(9726/0/0) 156248190
3 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
4 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
5 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
6 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
7 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
8   bootwu   0 -07.84MB(1/0/0)16065
9 unassignedwm   0   0 (0/0/0)0
 
 Specify disk (enter its number): 1
 selecting c5t1d0
 [disk formatted]
 /dev/dsk/c5t1d0s0 is part of active ZFS pool rpool. Please see zpool(1M).
 partition p
 Current partition table (original):
 Total disk sectors available: 156285070 + 16384 (reserved sectors)
 
 
 Part  TagFlag First Sector Size Last Sector
0usrwm   256   74.52GB  156285070
1 unassignedwm 0   0   0
2 unassignedwm 0   0   0
3 unassignedwm 0   0   0
4 unassignedwm 0   0   0
5 unassignedwm 0   0   0
6 unassignedwm 0   0   0
8   reservedwm 1562850718.00MB  156301454
 
 
 it seems that the second doesn't contains the same inforamtion than the 
 first one. The mirror was created at indiana installation.

The OpenSolaris installer is not capable of creating the mirror at install
time. The mirror had to have been created my hand after the installation
with a zfs attach command. It appears that there may be a problem with
the way ZFS did the attach when this was first created and several others
have seen similar issues (along with the fdisk partition being set to EFI).


 
 -bash-3.2# zfs list
 NAMEUSED  AVAIL 
   REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 rpool  45.9G  25.0G 
 60K  /rpool
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  19.5K  - 
 55K  -
 rpool/ROOT 6.43G  25.0G 
 18K  /rpool/ROOT
 rpool/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0  - 
 18K  -
 rpool/ROOT/opensolaris 8.40M  25.0G 
   2.75G  legacy
 rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1   4.29G  25.0G 
   2.92G  legacy
 rpool/ROOT/[EMAIL PROTECTED]   59.9M  - 
   2.22G  -
 rpool/ROOT/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-05-30-05:29:40   406M  - 
   2.75G  -
 rpool/ROOT/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-08-20-12:06:34   165M  - 
   2.64G  -
 rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/opt709M  25.0G 
709M  /opt
 rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 72K  - 
   3.60M  -
 rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-05-30-05:29:4038K  
 - 
595M  -
 rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:-:2008-08-20-12:06:34  0  
 - 
709M  -
 rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-2

Re: [indiana-discuss] I need a little info about this distro

2008-08-21 Thread Calum Benson

On 18 Aug 2008, at 01:08, Willie Walker wrote:

 Darnyou're right about both the menu and run application
 keystrokes.  I use them both all the time, and I'm perpetually  
 confused
 because I constantly switch between Ubuntu and OpenSolaris.

GNOME supports multiple keybindings for these commands, we should be  
binding both Super+R AND Alt+F2 to the Run dialog.  (It was Sun who  
requested the feature, precisely so we could do this!)

I'll add that (and the others we remap) to the Indiana UI Spec...  
hopefully we can sneak it in for 2008.11.

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: [indiana-discuss] [sysadmin-discuss] /dev/null disappeared and unable to recreate it

2008-08-21 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Francois,

I'm reposting this on indiana-discuss to see if anyone on that list
can provide some input.

Is this happening during a netinstall?
Can you provide the output of ls -l /dev/null?

Cindy

François Feugeas wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We're having a strange issue on one of our OpenSolaris 64bit installs. For 
 some unknown reason, /dev/null disappeared. We tried to reboot but it didn't 
 help. We're running SNV93.
 
 /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null does exist and permissions are correct 
 :
 # ls -l /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null 
 crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   13,  2 août 21 15:59 /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:null
 
 devfsadm and devfsadm -P fail :
 # devfsadm -V chatty | grep null
 devfsadm: cannot create link: /dev/null - ../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:null.  max attempts exceeded
 devfsadm[2456]: chatty: minor_process: node=mm, minor=null
 devfsadm[2456]: chatty: reset_node_permissions: 
 phy_path=/devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null lphy_path=/pseudo/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:null
 
 /dev is writable by root and I can create files or symlinks into it, as long 
 as they're not named, you guessed it, null.
 
 I didn't find any reference to that particular issue. Has anyone encountered 
 that issue already ?
  
  
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Re: [indiana-discuss] [sysadmin-discuss] /dev/null disappeared and unable to recreate it

2008-08-21 Thread Vikram Hegde
Hi,

Looks like the devname filesystem is confused. DO the following

1. Use ln  -s  to create /dev/null manually

#  ln -s  ../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null/dev/null

2. Do a reboot -d to generate a kernel core file

3. File a bug and attach core file to bug report.

The system should come up normally after a reboot.

BTW, mention the exact conditions when this problem happened (was it normal 
boot or install boot - did you do anything in /dev etc.)

Vikram



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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [indiana-discuss] [sysadmin-discuss] /dev/null disappeared and 
unable to recreate it

Francois,

I'm reposting this on indiana-discuss to see if anyone on that list
can provide some input.

Is this happening during a netinstall?
Can you provide the output of ls -l /dev/null?

Cindy

François Feugeas wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We're having a strange issue on one of our OpenSolaris 64bit installs. For 
 some unknown reason, /dev/null disappeared. We tried to reboot but it didn't 
 help. We're running SNV93.
 
 /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null does exist and permissions are correct 
 :
 # ls -l /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null 
 crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   13,  2 août 21 15:59 /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:null
 
 devfsadm and devfsadm -P fail :
 # devfsadm -V chatty | grep null
 devfsadm: cannot create link: /dev/null - ../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:null.  max attempts exceeded
 devfsadm[2456]: chatty: minor_process: node=mm, minor=null
 devfsadm[2456]: chatty: reset_node_permissions: 
 phy_path=/devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null lphy_path=/pseudo/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:null
 
 /dev is writable by root and I can create files or symlinks into it, as long 
 as they're not named, you guessed it, null.
 
 I didn't find any reference to that particular issue. Has anyone encountered 
 that issue already ?
  
  
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Re: [indiana-discuss] [sysadmin-discuss] /dev/null disappeared and unable to recreate it

2008-08-21 Thread Vikram Hegde
Hi,

ok in that case you will have to take the risk of rebooting without creating 
/dev/null.

Do a reboot -d to create a core dump file and reboot.

If you have problems on reboot due to missing /dev/null, boot the Live CD, 
mount the hard disk and create /dev/null via ln. That should succeed as you 
are then operating outside devname filesystem

Vikram



- Original Message 
From: François Feugeas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vikram Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:05:20 PM
Subject: Re: [indiana-discuss] [sysadmin-discuss] /dev/null disappeared and 
unable to recreate it


Hello,


I weren't clear the first time, but this issue is encountered on a 
system that has been running perfectly for a few weeks (and not during 
an install). Nothing special happened on that system, though OpenSSH 
(which we use on that system in replacement of SunSSH) crashed on us 10 
minutes before we noticed /dev/null went missing. Maybe one issue caused 
the other.

Nothing was done under /dev.

As stated earlier, I am not able to create *anything* named null under 
/dev/ :

#  ln -s  ../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null/dev/null
ln: cannot create /dev/null: No such file or directory

# touch /dev/null
touch: /dev/null cannot create

touch /dev/anything succeeds, though


Best regards,
François Feugeas

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: François Feugeas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:10:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [indiana-discuss] [sysadmin-discuss] /dev/null 
 disappeared and unable to recreate it

 Francois,

 I'm reposting this on indiana-discuss to see if anyone on that list
 can provide some input.

 Is this happening during a netinstall?
 Can you provide the output of ls -l /dev/null?

 Cindy

 François Feugeas wrote:
  Hello,
 
  We're having a strange issue on one of our OpenSolaris 64bit 
 installs. For some unknown reason, /dev/null disappeared. We tried to 
 reboot but it didn't help. We're running SNV93.
 
  /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null does exist and permissions are 
  correct :
  # ls -l /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null
  crw-rw-rw-  1 rootsys  13,  2 août 21 15:59 
 /devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null
 
  devfsadm and devfsadm -P fail :
  # devfsadm -V chatty | grep null
  devfsadm: cannot create link: /dev/null - 
 ../devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null.  max attempts exceeded
  devfsadm[2456]: chatty: minor_process: node=mm, minor=null
  devfsadm[2456]: chatty: reset_node_permissions: 
 phy_path=/devices/pseudo/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:null lphy_path=/pseudo/[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]:null
 
  /dev is writable by root and I can create files or symlinks into it, 
 as long as they're not named, you guessed it, null.
 
  I didn't find any reference to that particular issue. Has anyone 
 encountered that issue already ?
  
  
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Re: [indiana-discuss] Choice of text Editor

2008-08-21 Thread David Orman
nano + vim is the way to go. Removing VIM would be a very bad idea, as a lot
of people (myself included) cannot live without it, and it (or vi) are
almost always expected to be available. Nano is a good, easy to use, editor
for those new to unix. If emacs was possible, I'd say include it too. Maybe
a stripped down version? (Not an emacs user, don't know much about it,
sorry...)

David

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Paul Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I started with pine too at uni.

 If there is space on the cd perhaps a good compromise would be to include
 nano or pico and vim.
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Re: [indiana-discuss] [Fwd: beadm: Unable to activate opensolaris-x (build 95)]

2008-08-21 Thread andrew
 t0 shows
 Partition   StatusType  Start   End
   Length%
 =   ==  =   ===
   ==   ===
 1   ActiveSolaris2  1  30399
 30399100
 hows
 Partition   StatusType  Start   End
   Length%
 =   ==  =   ===
   ==   ===
 1 EFI   0  30400
 30401100
 ously when I added the second disk, it created it
 with an EFI 
 label.  I don't remember making any such decision, I
 think it's done 
 this as a default action.
  I suspect what you have is an SMI labelled disk
 (c5t0d0) and an EFI labelled disk (c5t1d0). How did
 you add the second disk to the root pool?

 I think you're spot on.  I just did `zpool attach
 rpool device'.  Seems 
 like it's worked before just by chance.
  (Bootadm should be printing the reason for the
 failure. Users should not be expected to activate
 secret debugging options just to find out why a
 command failed).

 Absolutely.  I half remembered this discussion, and
 went looking for the 
 magic environment variable without success.  (Once I
 saw the error 
 message, I also went googling, but couldn't spot the
 discussion, now 
 it's been confirmed I'll go looking again.)
 
 I'm tempted to just detach the device, try the
 activate, reboot into the 
 new system, fdisk the second device by hand, and
 re-attach.  Like I say, 
 it's only a workstation, not a production machine.

That;s probably what I would have done as well, unfortunately it seems that 
this won't quite work - here is the safe way of removing the EFI-labelled 
disk posted by evanl above:

I would follow the instructions Dan Price sent out last week:

If you want to remove an EFI labelled disk from your root pool, my advice
to you would be to do the following. Note that I have not tested this
particular sequence, but I think it will work. Hah.

0) Backup your data and settings.

1) 'zpool detach' the EFI labelled disk from your pool. After you do this
YOU MUST NOT REBOOT. Your system is now in a fragile state.

2) Run 'zpool status' to ensure that your pool now has one disk.

3) Edit /etc/boot/solaris/filelist.ramdisk. Remove the only line in the
file:

etc/zfs/zpool.cache

4) Delete /platform/i86pc/boot_archive and /platform/i86pc/amd64/boot_archive

5) Run 'bootadm update-archive' -- This rebuilds the boot archive,
omitting the zpool.cache file.

It may also be necessary to do installgrub at this point. Probably, and
it wouldn't hurt.

6) Reboot your system, to ensure that you have a working configuration.


I hope this helps...

-evan

Once you've done that you should be OK to manually create the fdisk partition 
then the required slices within in on the second disk.

Cheers

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Re: [indiana-discuss] Choice of text Editor

2008-08-21 Thread Paul Harper
I have since discovered [b]pfexec gedit /foo/bar[/b]

It is a lot easier than pointing newcomers who want thier internet to work at 
man vi

I know that Dave Miner is trying to put OS200811 on a diet to keep the iso size 
down. 

So keeping vim and letting people know about [b]pfexec gedit'[/b] may be the 
way forward.
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