Re: [efloraofindia:62897] Sterculia villosa

2011-02-16 Thread ajinkya gadave
बस करो यार ![?]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 This is unacceptable behaviour Dr. Pankaj.  It is my thread and I am a
 moderator and I want the response on this thread only.  Why are you
 dictating terms to me ?

 regards,
 Rashida.
 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 No mam, you can post it in a  different thread. Rajdeo is also a
 moderator and I have requested him not to reply here and he agreed.
 You may open another thread and share more pics.
 Regards
 Pankaj


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Rashida Atthar
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dr.Pankaj,
 
  I too am amoderator of this group. No one is fighting over here. I would
  like this thread to be kept open for a while.  I have posed two queries
 to
  Rajdeo ji for which I am waiting a response.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Yes Rajdeo ji. Both the Sterculias are posted from that section, near
  the
  entrance near the kala Ghoda right?
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:57 PM, rajdeo singh rajdeo.1...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Rashida ji,
  In Ranibaug where u took the pictures of Sterculia urens,  in that
  same compound there is also a tree of Sterculia villosa.
  ---
  Rajdeo Singh
  Project fellow
  St. Xavier's College,
  Mumbai
 
 
 



  --
 ***
 TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!


 Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
 Research Associate
 Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
 Department of Habitat Ecology
 Wildlife Institute of India
 Post Box # 18
 Dehradun - 248001, India



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Re: [efloraofindia:62898] Sterculia villosa

2011-02-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Ajinkya ji, kindly refrain from posting like this in Hindi. If you any
comment on the tress under discussion you may mention the same.

regards,
Rashida.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote:

 बस करो यार ![?]


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 This is unacceptable behaviour Dr. Pankaj.  It is my thread and I am a
 moderator and I want the response on this thread only.  Why are you
 dictating terms to me ?

 regards,
 Rashida.
   On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 No mam, you can post it in a  different thread. Rajdeo is also a
 moderator and I have requested him not to reply here and he agreed.
 You may open another thread and share more pics.
 Regards
 Pankaj


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Rashida Atthar
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dr.Pankaj,
 
  I too am amoderator of this group. No one is fighting over here. I
 would
  like this thread to be kept open for a while.  I have posed two queries
 to
  Rajdeo ji for which I am waiting a response.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Yes Rajdeo ji. Both the Sterculias are posted from that section, near
  the
  entrance near the kala Ghoda right?
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:57 PM, rajdeo singh rajdeo.1...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Rashida ji,
  In Ranibaug where u took the pictures of Sterculia urens,  in that
  same compound there is also a tree of Sterculia villosa.
  ---
  Rajdeo Singh
  Project fellow
  St. Xavier's College,
  Mumbai
 
 
 



  --
 ***
 TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!


 Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
 Research Associate
 Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
 Department of Habitat Ecology
 Wildlife Institute of India
 Post Box # 18
 Dehradun - 248001, India




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Re: [efloraofindia:62899] Fwd: Ornamental shrub for id 050211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread ajinkya gadave
*Odontonema callistachyum*
Family: Acanthaceae
Fire Spike

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:59 PM
 Subject: Ornamental shrub for id 050211MK3
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear members,
 Kindly help to identifying this shrub found planted as ornamental at Ooty,
 Nilgiris.

  *Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 11:40 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden, planted

 *Plant Habit-*

 shrub

 *Height/Length-*

 1.5 M

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 15 x 6 cm;

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
 terminal infl up to 20 cm

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
 pink; c 4cm long

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
 *
 *

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 09626833911
 www.careearthtrust.org




 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




Re: [efloraofindia:62900] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread Nidhan Singh
Hi,
Can it be any Stellaria sp. from Caryophyllaceae?
















-- 
Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:62901] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK1

2011-02-16 Thread Nidhan Singh
Hi,
To me also this looks like a species of Rorippa. Otherwise, can it be
a Cardamine sp.
regards,
-- 
Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:62902] Herb from Nilgiris for id 160211MK2

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I hope Veronica persica


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 Please help to id this herb. Could this be any *Lindernia* sp.?
 Photographed on a private garden floor at Ooty, Nilgiris.

  *Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 11:10 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden floor

 *Plant Habit-*
 herb

 *Height/Length-*

 c 10cm long

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 ca.2.5 x 2 cm;

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*


 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 pale blue or violetish; c. 0.4 cm across

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
 *
 *

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org


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Re: [efloraofindia:62904] Sterculia villosa

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Please calm down Rashida ji  Pankaj ji



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ajinkya ji, kindly refrain from posting like this in Hindi. If you any
 comment on the tress under discussion you may mention the same.

 regards,
 Rashida.

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:32 PM, ajinkya gadave 
 ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote:

 बस करो यार ![?]


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 This is unacceptable behaviour Dr. Pankaj.  It is my thread and I am a
 moderator and I want the response on this thread only.  Why are you
 dictating terms to me ?

 regards,
 Rashida.
   On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 No mam, you can post it in a  different thread. Rajdeo is also a
 moderator and I have requested him not to reply here and he agreed.
 You may open another thread and share more pics.
 Regards
 Pankaj


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Rashida Atthar
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dr.Pankaj,
 
  I too am amoderator of this group. No one is fighting over here. I
 would
  like this thread to be kept open for a while.  I have posed two
 queries to
  Rajdeo ji for which I am waiting a response.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Yes Rajdeo ji. Both the Sterculias are posted from that section, near
  the
  entrance near the kala Ghoda right?
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:57 PM, rajdeo singh 
 rajdeo.1...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Rashida ji,
  In Ranibaug where u took the pictures of Sterculia urens,  in that
  same compound there is also a tree of Sterculia villosa.
  ---
  Rajdeo Singh
  Project fellow
  St. Xavier's College,
  Mumbai
 
 
 



  --
 ***
 TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!


 Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
 Research Associate
 Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
 Department of Habitat Ecology
 Wildlife Institute of India
 Post Box # 18
 Dehradun - 248001, India





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Re: [efloraofindia:62905] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes looks like Stellaria media


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 Can it be any Stellaria sp. from Caryophyllaceae?
















 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227



Re: [efloraofindia:62903] ... met Aarti Khale ji at Rani Baug on 9 FEB 11

2011-02-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Dr. Pankaj Kumar,

If you make fun and laugh at those having a genuine discussion on a few
characteristics of a family, you will soon become a laughing stock
yourself.

You seem to have a remarkable knack for not reading properly, distorting a
person's remark and making fun of the same. It is almost criminal on your
part because it is misguiding and deliberately twisting and putting words
into a person's mail which was not there at all in the first place.

Read my two characteristics of LIliaceae mail properly.  I have said two of
the main characteristics, there are many more charactersitics to make a
family. Similarly when you are questioning that should Ochidaceae also be in
LIliaceae beacause of sharing these two characteristics, the question is
shocking, since there are definately many more unique characteristics
besides the ones shared by some families to make it a unique family. You are
all the time in attack mode of discussion, it  is having a negative
influence on some others also who have started talking your language. If you
can ban individuals who were praising your mails I am wondering  why
I should I not ask for more refrain from you or altogether ask you not to
interact in my posts to maintian my peace of mind and cordial atmosphere in
the group.  Also I find that to my quuestion you are addressing as 'some
people', why? Why can't you address me and respond instead of putting others
in embarrasing situation, in this case Dinesh ji? What kind of communication
method are you following?

The Sheen is taken away from your knowledge and expertise by your
overbearing and almost dictatorial approach. Umpteen number of times you
have apologised to the group and said you will not repeat again, only to
forget the same promise in a few days time. Can you please allow indivduals
like me to discuss without fear and taunts on the group.

regards,
Rashida.



On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Dinesh Sir,

 This is very strange and I couldnt stop laughing at the fact that
 Inferior trilocular ovary and trimerous arrangement of sepals and
 petals (tepal is a better word though) is also found in Orchids, so
 then it means, Orchids should be placed in family Liliaceae according
 to some???

 Secondly, in most of the Liliaceae there are tepals and they are not
 differentiated into petals and sepals.

 I got this reply from Dr. Mark W. Chase, still waiting for reply from
 Vienna.

 ---
 Hello Pankaj,
 Most Asparagales have phytomelan in their seed coats, except for
 orchids (microseeds with thin seed coats, so no room for phytomelan)
 and some Asparagaceae (such as Convallaria with a berry, but Asparagus
 itself does have phytomelan even though it has a berry). No Liliales
 have this. Liliales has nectaries no located in the septae of the
 ovary, whereas this is common in Asparagales. There are differences as
 well in pollen and ovule development , but these are technical.
 Spotted tepals are frequent in Liliales (as in Alstroemeria and
 Tricyrtis), but this does not occur in Asparagales, and in the latter
 blue flowers are common, whereas in Liliales they are rare.
 Best wishes,
 Mark
 --

 I will urge members not to force their identity of any plant on others
 plz. This creates very foul atmosphere in the group. Incorrect
 identity is not a big deal many top taxonomists in the world go wrong
 at times and some at many times, but forcing incorrect identity on
 others is not correct.

 As I said before, just for example, Dracaena fragrans has so many
 synonyms and one more interesting thing is, this taxa has been placed
 in 7 different genera by different authors, e.g., Dracaena fragrans
 (L.) Ker Gawl, Aletris fragrans L., Aloe fragrantissima Jacq.,
 Pleomele fragrans (L.) Salisb., Sansevieria fragrans (L.) Jacq.,
 Cordyline fragrans (L.) Planch. and Draco fragrans (L.) Kuntze. but
 that doesnt mean that Linne, Jacquemont, Salisbury, Planchon, Kuntze
 were fools and Ker Gawl was the most intelligent one. Just that people
 have their own views which were not being followed by others. If this
 would have been the case then Linne would have been most infamous guy
 and so would have been Van Rheede and earlier workers.

 For me, an EXPERT is the one, who knows his mistakes and corrects it,
 rather than keep doing more and more mistakes.

 Regards
 Pankaj



 On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thank you sir for appreciation. I am trying to gather more
  information, which if I could get before tomorrow evening then its
  fine or I will share after february.
  I assume, we are lacking good taxonomists in India for this. I have
  written a mail to one of my acquaintences at University of Vienna.
  Regards
  Pankaj
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ... wow dear Pankaj .. whatever you have put, must be a deep subject ...
 but
  I could read it 

Re: [efloraofindia:62906] Fwd: Ornamental shrub for id 050211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread Muthu Karthick
Many Thanks Ajinkyaji, the plant matches with *Odontonema callistachyum*

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:48 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Odontonema callistachyum*
 Family: Acanthaceae
 Fire Spike


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.comwrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:59 PM
 Subject: Ornamental shrub for id 050211MK3
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear members,
 Kindly help to identifying this shrub found planted as ornamental at Ooty,
 Nilgiris.

  *Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 11:40 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden, planted

 *Plant Habit-*

 shrub

 *Height/Length-*

 1.5 M

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 15 x 6 cm;

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
 terminal infl up to 20 cm

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
 pink; c 4cm long

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
 *
 *

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 09626833911
 www.careearthtrust.org




 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org





-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:62907] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK1

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Do we have any species  of Rorippa with white flowers?
I thought it to be Cardamine. Perhaps fruits should help.



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 To me also this looks like a species of Rorippa. Otherwise, can it be
 a Cardamine sp.
 regards,
 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227



Re: [efloraofindia:62908] ... met Aarti Khale ji at Rani Baug on 9 FEB 11

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Sorry, some how I missed this valuable thread and also could not participate
in information exchange.
I am also sorry that this interesting exchange of information has again
taken this unwanted turn. I would refrain from commenting on the subject
right now for the sake of the group and would only request Rashida ji and
Pankaj ji to be mutually tolerant. Enough has been exchanged on the other
thread and spill over here is not in the interest of the group.
 I thought this to be a social thread started by Dinesh ji in which
people were exchanging pleasantries. Never thought it would reach here.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dr. Pankaj Kumar,

 If you make fun and laugh at those having a genuine discussion on a few
 characteristics of a family, you will soon become a laughing stock
 yourself.

 You seem to have a remarkable knack for not reading properly, distorting a
 person's remark and making fun of the same. It is almost criminal on your
 part because it is misguiding and deliberately twisting and putting words
 into a person's mail which was not there at all in the first place.

 Read my two characteristics of LIliaceae mail properly.  I have said two of
 the main characteristics, there are many more charactersitics to make a
 family. Similarly when you are questioning that should Ochidaceae also be in
 LIliaceae beacause of sharing these two characteristics, the question is
 shocking, since there are definately many more unique characteristics
 besides the ones shared by some families to make it a unique family. You are
 all the time in attack mode of discussion, it  is having a negative
 influence on some others also who have started talking your language. If you
 can ban individuals who were praising your mails I am wondering  why
 I should I not ask for more refrain from you or altogether ask you not to
 interact in my posts to maintian my peace of mind and cordial atmosphere in
 the group.  Also I find that to my quuestion you are addressing as 'some
 people', why? Why can't you address me and respond instead of putting others
 in embarrasing situation, in this case Dinesh ji? What kind of communication
 method are you following?

 The Sheen is taken away from your knowledge and expertise by your
 overbearing and almost dictatorial approach. Umpteen number of times you
 have apologised to the group and said you will not repeat again, only to
 forget the same promise in a few days time. Can you please allow indivduals
 like me to discuss without fear and taunts on the group.

 regards,
 Rashida.



 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Dinesh Sir,

 This is very strange and I couldnt stop laughing at the fact that
 Inferior trilocular ovary and trimerous arrangement of sepals and
 petals (tepal is a better word though) is also found in Orchids, so
 then it means, Orchids should be placed in family Liliaceae according
 to some???

 Secondly, in most of the Liliaceae there are tepals and they are not
 differentiated into petals and sepals.

 I got this reply from Dr. Mark W. Chase, still waiting for reply from
 Vienna.

 ---
 Hello Pankaj,
 Most Asparagales have phytomelan in their seed coats, except for
 orchids (microseeds with thin seed coats, so no room for phytomelan)
 and some Asparagaceae (such as Convallaria with a berry, but Asparagus
 itself does have phytomelan even though it has a berry). No Liliales
 have this. Liliales has nectaries no located in the septae of the
 ovary, whereas this is common in Asparagales. There are differences as
 well in pollen and ovule development , but these are technical.
 Spotted tepals are frequent in Liliales (as in Alstroemeria and
 Tricyrtis), but this does not occur in Asparagales, and in the latter
 blue flowers are common, whereas in Liliales they are rare.
 Best wishes,
 Mark
 --

 I will urge members not to force their identity of any plant on others
 plz. This creates very foul atmosphere in the group. Incorrect
 identity is not a big deal many top taxonomists in the world go wrong
 at times and some at many times, but forcing incorrect identity on
 others is not correct.

 As I said before, just for example, Dracaena fragrans has so many
 synonyms and one more interesting thing is, this taxa has been placed
 in 7 different genera by different authors, e.g., Dracaena fragrans
 (L.) Ker Gawl, Aletris fragrans L., Aloe fragrantissima Jacq.,
 Pleomele fragrans (L.) Salisb., Sansevieria fragrans (L.) Jacq.,
 Cordyline fragrans (L.) Planch. and Draco fragrans (L.) Kuntze. but
 that doesnt mean that Linne, Jacquemont, Salisbury, Planchon, Kuntze
 were fools and Ker Gawl was the most 

Re: [efloraofindia:62909] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread Muthu Karthick
But isn't the flowers [petals] are smaller on my plant sir? when compared to
S. media

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes looks like Stellaria media


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 Can it be any Stellaria sp. from Caryophyllaceae?
















 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227






-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:62911] ... met Aarti Khale ji at Rani Baug on 9 FEB 11

2011-02-16 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Ms. Rashida,
1. 'Some' was not meant for you. If you keep taking things on yourself
then no one can help.
2. You never wrote a query to me so I never addressed answers to you.
3. Dinesh sir asked me to add some informations and I added. I am
sure, he is not embarrassed as assumed by you.
4. Those characters are not the some of the main characters as pointed
by you. They are just one of the few characters of this family.
For peace and proper functioning of the group I hereby humbly request
you that I dont want any further non-scientific discussion on this. I
am open for anything scientific. I had to reply this to clarify the
baseless aligations put on by you.

Regards
Pankaj


On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, some how I missed this valuable thread and also could not participate
 in information exchange.
     I am also sorry that this interesting exchange of information has again
 taken this unwanted turn. I would refrain from commenting on the subject
 right now for the sake of the group and would only request Rashida ji and
 Pankaj ji to be mutually tolerant. Enough has been exchanged on the other
 thread and spill over here is not in the interest of the group.
      I thought this to be a social thread started by Dinesh ji in which
 people were exchanging pleasantries. Never thought it would reach here.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dr. Pankaj Kumar,

 If you make fun and laugh at those having a genuine discussion on a few
 characteristics of a family, you will soon become a laughing stock
 yourself.

 You seem to have a remarkable knack for not reading properly, distorting a
 person's remark and making fun of the same. It is almost criminal on your
 part because it is misguiding and deliberately twisting and putting words
 into a person's mail which was not there at all in the first place.

 Read my two characteristics of LIliaceae mail properly.  I have said two
 of the main characteristics, there are many more charactersitics to make a
 family. Similarly when you are questioning that should Ochidaceae also be in
 LIliaceae beacause of sharing these two characteristics, the question is
 shocking, since there are definately many more unique characteristics
 besides the ones shared by some families to make it a unique family. You are
 all the time in attack mode of discussion, it  is having a negative
 influence on some others also who have started talking your language. If you
 can ban individuals who were praising your mails I am wondering  why
 I should I not ask for more refrain from you or altogether ask you not to
 interact in my posts to maintian my peace of mind and cordial atmosphere in
 the group.  Also I find that to my quuestion you are addressing as 'some
 people', why? Why can't you address me and respond instead of putting others
 in embarrasing situation, in this case Dinesh ji? What kind of communication
 method are you following?

 The Sheen is taken away from your knowledge and expertise by your
 overbearing and almost dictatorial approach. Umpteen number of times you
 have apologised to the group and said you will not repeat again, only to
 forget the same promise in a few days time. Can you please allow indivduals
 like me to discuss without fear and taunts on the group.

 regards,
 Rashida.



 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Dinesh Sir,

 This is very strange and I couldnt stop laughing at the fact that
 Inferior trilocular ovary and trimerous arrangement of sepals and
 petals (tepal is a better word though) is also found in Orchids, so
 then it means, Orchids should be placed in family Liliaceae according
 to some???

 Secondly, in most of the Liliaceae there are tepals and they are not
 differentiated into petals and sepals.

 I got this reply from Dr. Mark W. Chase, still waiting for reply from
 Vienna.

 ---
 Hello Pankaj,
 Most Asparagales have phytomelan in their seed coats, except for
 orchids (microseeds with thin seed coats, so no room for phytomelan)
 and some Asparagaceae (such as Convallaria with a berry, but Asparagus
 itself does have phytomelan even though it has a berry). No Liliales
 have this. Liliales has nectaries no located in the septae of the
 ovary, whereas this is common in Asparagales. There are differences as
 well in pollen and ovule development , but these are technical.
 Spotted tepals are frequent in Liliales (as in Alstroemeria and
 Tricyrtis), but this does not occur in Asparagales, and in the latter
 blue flowers are common, whereas in Liliales they are rare.
 Best wishes,
 Mark
 --

 I will urge members not to force their 

Re: [efloraofindia:62912] Cardamine flexuosa

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes you are right Muthu ji


-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Name: *Cardamine flexuosa*
 Family: Brassicaceae
 Location: River bank at eastern part of Nilgiris
 Alt: 300 -400 MSL
 Date: 10 Feb 2011

 Dear all, is my id right? Please help me in figuring out the recent name of
 this and also the author citation.
 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




[efloraofindia:62913] Re: Sterculia villosa

2011-02-16 Thread Smilax004
It is not necessary that all botanists can id plants.
Please remember that all our pioneer references on plant taxonomy in
India or elsewhere have been done by non-botanists/biologists.
We do refer taxa identified and described by doctors or army men.
I am a trained taxonomist. But I made mistakes several times. I do
agree and admit those mistakes when someone pointed out or I myself
happened to notice the same.

I think Snehal was in a hurry to post the mail and made the statement
without thinking much.
Let us join hands to share, learn and understand about plants around
us more importantly to conserve and protect them in its natural
habitat. let us join hands to fight against the facts that destroy the
natural resources that are meant for the next generation/s too.

I completely agree with Vijashankar and Smitha.
It is the passion that takes you ahead. Hence keep going ahead with
the passion (interest comes along).


Regards
Giby


On Feb 15, 9:08 pm, snehal patel snehal.patel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rashida ji,

 i think you are very poor in identification. Before posting anything please
 get it confirm as you are not a botanists.

 the posted images are of Sterculia urens and not of Sterculia villosa.

 ok







 On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM, rajdeo singh rajdeo.1...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rashida ji,
  the posted images are of  *Sterculia urens* Roxb.

  ***
  Rajdeo Singh
  Project fellow
  St. Xavier's College,
  Mumbai


[efloraofindia:62914] Re: Plant for Id

2011-02-16 Thread Smilax004
Hi,

Please check for species of Lepidagathis of the family Acanthaceae.

Regards,
Giby



On Feb 16, 10:21 am, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello All
 can anyone help me id of this plant plz
 Some Acanthaceae plant??
 it is herb found on hill at Sawantwadi Sindhudurg Maharashtra
 Thanks

 --
 Smita raskar
 308 Disha Residency,
 Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
 Mob.9763989639

  Picture 4858.jpg
 391KViewDownload


Re: [efloraofindia:62915] Re: Plant for Id

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
The background is very dark, but from what ever I can see, the leaves look
alternate. Can it be Lobelia sp.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Please check for species of Lepidagathis of the family Acanthaceae.

 Regards,
 Giby



 On Feb 16, 10:21 am, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello All
  can anyone help me id of this plant plz
  Some Acanthaceae plant??
  it is herb found on hill at Sawantwadi Sindhudurg Maharashtra
  Thanks
 
  --
  Smita raskar
  308 Disha Residency,
  Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
  Mob.9763989639
 
   Picture 4858.jpg
  391KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:62916] Re: Plant for Id

2011-02-16 Thread Smilax004
Smita,

Please let us know whether the leaves are opposite or alternate.

Regards
Giby



On Feb 16, 3:13 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 The background is very dark, but from what ever I can see, the leaves look
 alternate. Can it be Lobelia sp.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/







 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,

  Please check for species of Lepidagathis of the family Acanthaceae.

  Regards,
  Giby

  On Feb 16, 10:21 am, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello All
   can anyone help me id of this plant plz
   Some Acanthaceae plant??
   it is herb found on hill at Sawantwadi Sindhudurg Maharashtra
   Thanks

   --
   Smita raskar
   308 Disha Residency,
   Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
   Mob.9763989639

    Picture 4858.jpg
   391KViewDownload


[efloraofindia:62917] Re: Orchidee from Ritterhude for ID

2011-02-16 Thread Katarina
Yes it is the Octopus orchid. One of the more common orchids available
in garden centres in Europe. About bad care of plants sold in
supermarkets or even garden shops - it is quite common all over.
Plants are nowadays a thing you buy to match your interior design set
up rather than a intersting plant you want to grow. And when it stops
flowering it is most often thrown away. Sad but true.

/Katarina


On 16 Feb, 02:36, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Really nice orchid. I also saw several orchids in California stores, but
 people there know it well how to look after them, or may be they are sold
 faster.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:



  Sometimes, it helps if you can imagine how it looks like. Make vague
  guesses and you can be right, especially with orchids.
  This is called Octopus Orchid though it doesnt have 8 arms.
  Prosthechea cochleata
  Regards
  Pankaj

  On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:
   Hallo,
   I don't know what Orchidee this one is. I did not buy it.
   The story:
   The supermarkets sell not only everything from paper to chocolate to
  fish.
   But they also have flowers and plants on sale. It is a pity because most
  of
   the flowers don't see any daylight once they are in the markethall and
  the
   staff have no idea at all about how to care for the different flowers.
   Anyway, this orchidee was on a trolly where there were many other plants,
   half dead, and not looking healthy. They were sorted out and were to be
   thrown away. I talked to one woman from the supermarket but she did not
   allow me to carry the plant. I insisted on talking to the bigboss. He
   explained me, that  they normally don't sell the plants even for half the
   price or just give them away, to avoid misuse of this practice. Anyway
  after
   some discussion he gave me the plant. That is how it is now in my room.
   After a long time it is flowering now, just three at present but I hope
  to
   see more flowers next time. But I don't know the name of it. Experts, plz
  Id
   it.

   Regards
   Nalini

  --
  ***
  TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!

  Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
  Research Associate
  Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
  Department of Habitat Ecology
  Wildlife Institute of India
  Post Box # 18
  Dehradun - 248001, India- Dölj citerad text -

 - Visa citerad text -


Re: [efloraofindia:62918] Orchidee from Ritterhude for ID

2011-02-16 Thread Na Bha

Thank you Pankaj ji,
yes I had already tried to imagin how it looked. In fact I thought of spider 
but gave up because this spider did not have 8 legs.

Some other insect with 6 legs did not come to my mind.
Thanks a lot again for the id.
Nalini



- Original Message - 
From: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com

To: Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de
Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:62848] Orchidee from Ritterhude for ID


Sometimes, it helps if you can imagine how it looks like. Make vague
guesses and you can be right, especially with orchids.
This is called Octopus Orchid though it doesnt have 8 arms.
Prosthechea cochleata
Regards
Pankaj


On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:

Hallo,
I don't know what Orchidee this one is. I did not buy it.
The story:
The supermarkets sell not only everything from paper to chocolate to fish.
But they also have flowers and plants on sale. It is a pity because most 
of

the flowers don't see any daylight once they are in the markethall and the
staff have no idea at all about how to care for the different flowers.
Anyway, this orchidee was on a trolly where there were many other plants,
half dead, and not looking healthy. They were sorted out and were to be
thrown away. I talked to one woman from the supermarket but she did not
allow me to carry the plant. I insisted on talking to the bigboss. He
explained me, that they normally don't sell the plants even for half the
price or just give them away, to avoid misuse of this practice. Anyway 
after

some discussion he gave me the plant. That is how it is now in my room.
After a long time it is flowering now, just three at present but I hope to
see more flowers next time. But I don't know the name of it. Experts, plz 
Id

it.

Regards
Nalini




--
***
TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!


Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India 



Re: [efloraofindia:62919] ... met Aarti Khale ji at Rani Baug on 9 FEB 11

2011-02-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Dr. Pankaj Kumar,

I think you are clearly lying here if you say 'according to some' was not
meant for me. Again read my mail and your's properly - I am the one who
stated the characteristics that you are laughing on. There are only three
persons discussing in the thread so obviously you are referring to me. At
least be honest..  I do not want any further non-scientifc or scientifc
discussion with you on this matter. Allow indivduals like me to discuss with
the group without your overbearing dictation.

regards,
Rashida.
.On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ms. Rashida,
 1. 'Some' was not meant for you. If you keep taking things on yourself
 then no one can help.
 2. You never wrote a query to me so I never addressed answers to you.
 3. Dinesh sir asked me to add some informations and I added. I am
 sure, he is not embarrassed as assumed by you.
 4. Those characters are not the some of the main characters as pointed
 by you. They are just one of the few characters of this family.
 For peace and proper functioning of the group I hereby humbly request
 you that I dont want any further non-scientific discussion on this. I
 am open for anything scientific. I had to reply this to clarify the
 baseless aligations put on by you.

 Regards
 Pankaj


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Sorry, some how I missed this valuable thread and also could not
 participate
  in information exchange.
  I am also sorry that this interesting exchange of information has
 again
  taken this unwanted turn. I would refrain from commenting on the subject
  right now for the sake of the group and would only request Rashida ji and
  Pankaj ji to be mutually tolerant. Enough has been exchanged on the other
  thread and spill over here is not in the interest of the group.
   I thought this to be a social thread started by Dinesh ji in which
  people were exchanging pleasantries. Never thought it would reach here.
 
  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
  http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Rashida Atthar 
 atthar.rash...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dr. Pankaj Kumar,
 
  If you make fun and laugh at those having a genuine discussion on a few
  characteristics of a family, you will soon become a laughing stock
  yourself.
 
  You seem to have a remarkable knack for not reading properly, distorting
 a
  person's remark and making fun of the same. It is almost criminal on
 your
  part because it is misguiding and deliberately twisting and putting
 words
  into a person's mail which was not there at all in the first place.
 
  Read my two characteristics of LIliaceae mail properly.  I have said two
  of the main characteristics, there are many more charactersitics to make
 a
  family. Similarly when you are questioning that should Ochidaceae also
 be in
  LIliaceae beacause of sharing these two characteristics, the question is
  shocking, since there are definately many more unique characteristics
  besides the ones shared by some families to make it a unique family. You
 are
  all the time in attack mode of discussion, it  is having a negative
  influence on some others also who have started talking your language. If
 you
  can ban individuals who were praising your mails I am wondering  why
  I should I not ask for more refrain from you or altogether ask you not
 to
  interact in my posts to maintian my peace of mind and cordial atmosphere
 in
  the group.  Also I find that to my quuestion you are addressing as 'some
  people', why? Why can't you address me and respond instead of putting
 others
  in embarrasing situation, in this case Dinesh ji? What kind of
 communication
  method are you following?
 
  The Sheen is taken away from your knowledge and expertise by your
  overbearing and almost dictatorial approach. Umpteen number of times you
  have apologised to the group and said you will not repeat again, only to
  forget the same promise in a few days time. Can you please allow
 indivduals
  like me to discuss without fear and taunts on the group.
 
  regards,
  Rashida.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Dear Dinesh Sir,
 
  This is very strange and I couldnt stop laughing at the fact that
  Inferior trilocular ovary and trimerous arrangement of sepals and
  petals (tepal is a better word though) is also found in Orchids, so
  then it means, Orchids should be placed in family Liliaceae according
  to some???
 
  Secondly, in most of the Liliaceae there are tepals and they are not
  differentiated into petals and sepals.
 
  I got this reply from Dr. Mark W. Chase, still waiting for reply from
  Vienna.
 
  ---
  Hello Pankaj,
  Most Asparagales have phytomelan in their seed 

Re: [efloraofindia:62920] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread Muthu Karthick
A reply from Amitji - - is it *Arenaria **serpyllifolia* L.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 But isn't the flowers [petals] are smaller on my plant sir? when compared
 to S. media


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes looks like Stellaria media


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Nidhan Singh 
 nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 Can it be any Stellaria sp. from Caryophyllaceae?
















 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227






 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:62922] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Muthu ji
Arenaria was my first reaction also, but the basic difference between
Arenaria and Stellaria is that the petals of Arenaria are entire (and one
would see only 5), and deeply bi-lobed in Stellaria (giving the appearance
of 10). One can clearly see 8-10 in your photographs.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 A reply from Amitji - - is it *Arenaria **serpyllifolia* L.


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 But isn't the flowers [petals] are smaller on my plant sir? when compared
 to S. media


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes looks like Stellaria media


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Nidhan Singh 
 nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 Can it be any Stellaria sp. from Caryophyllaceae?
















 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227






 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




Re: [efloraofindia:62923] Borage family...??

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Some Paracaryum sp, I suppose


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Alok  Isabelle alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello friends,
 This is another one of the flowers from the Kalatope sanctuary,
 Chamba...
 Altitude 2300 mts, found sometime in April (I think),

 Do you think it belongs to the 'borage' family
 Thanks
 Alok
 --
 Himalayan Village Education Trust
 Village Khudgot,
 P.O. Dalhousie
 District Chamba
 H.P. 176304, India
 www.hive.interconnection.org
 hivetrust.wordpress.com




Re: [efloraofindia:62925] Guaiacum officinale L. flowering

2011-02-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Possibly the same species Dr.  Santhosh if the white flowers are the faded
ones, initially dark blue. There are five ovate petals with acute tips.
The fruit is initially green, flat obcordate capsules enclosing ovoid
seeds and turn orange brown on ripening. Ref : Trees of Mumbai.

regards,
Rashida.


On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Dr Santhosh Kumar 
drsanthosh1...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have a white variety of Guaicum in Govt secretariat campus trivandrum,
 sorry I dont have a photograph with my end. Hope that also belongs to the
 same species?

 santhosh


 On 13 February 2011 13:42, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Guaiacum officinale L. -Lignum vitae seen flowering at Rani baug ,  Mumbai
 on 6 Feb. 2011.  The small dark blue flowers  turn white after fading.

 regards,
 Rashida,




 --
 SANTHOSH
 --
 Dr. E.S. Santhosh Kumar
 Tropical Botanic Garden and Research Institute, Palode
 Thiruvananthapuram-695562
 Kerala
 India
 www.drsanthosh.wetpaint.com




Re: [efloraofindia:62927] Knöterich from Ritterhude

2011-02-16 Thread hari lal
madam jee
if orcheate stipule is present ih this plant this is polygonum confirm
because it is the family character.
hari shankar lal

On 2/15/11, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:
 I hope it is also Polygonum sp.
 Regards
 Nalini


Re: [efloraofindia:62928] Pitcherplant from Ritterhude Saracenia pupurea?

2011-02-16 Thread hari lal
nice thanks for sharing
hari shankar lal

On 2/15/11, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hallo,
 here is my pitcherplant. Not looking very well at present, but I hope, as
 the temperature rises, the plant will get better.
 Regards
 Nalini


[efloraofindia:62929] Re: Pitcherplant from Ritterhude Saracenia pupurea?

2011-02-16 Thread Katarina
It might be the fact that the wintering temperature has been too high
in combination with low light levels!!! And remember absolutely no
nutrients or fertile soil to be added. Rain water is the best
treatment. As the sun slowly returns you plant also will recover.

/Katarina

On 16 Feb, 15:43, hari lal taxo@gmail.com wrote:
 nice thanks for sharing
 hari shankar lal

 On 2/15/11, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:





  Hallo,
  here is my pitcherplant. Not looking very well at present, but I hope, as
  the temperature rises, the plant will get better.
  Regards
  Nalini- Dölj citerad text -

 - Visa citerad text -


[efloraofindia:62930] Re: Knöterich from Ritterhude

2011-02-16 Thread Katarina
Polygonum lapathifolium is a common European weed. You have to check
for glandular hairs on the leaves and stem to be 100% sure.

 /Katarina

On 16 Feb, 15:39, hari lal taxo@gmail.com wrote:
 madam jee
 if orcheate stipule is present ih this plant this is polygonum confirm
 because it is the family character.
 hari shankar lal

 On 2/15/11, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:



  I hope it is also Polygonum sp.
  Regards
  Nalini- Dölj citerad text -

 - Visa citerad text -


Re: [efloraofindia:62931] Ornamental from Panipat

2011-02-16 Thread Nidhan Singh
Thanks Pankaj Ji for this additional information and validation.
Regards,
-- 
Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:62932] Herb from Nilgiris for id 160211MK2

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
I think sir ji is correct
Veronica persica
tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I hope Veronica persica


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear all,
 Please help to id this herb. Could this be any *Lindernia* sp.?
 Photographed on a private garden floor at Ooty, Nilgiris.

  *Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 11:10 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden floor

 *Plant Habit-*
 herb

 *Height/Length-*

 c 10cm long

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 ca.2.5 x 2 cm;

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*


 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 pale blue or violetish; c. 0.4 cm across

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
 *
 *

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org


 x




-- 
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Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
*Webpages:*
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http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:62933] Cardamine flexuosa

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
nice catch muthu
tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes you are right Muthu ji


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Name: *Cardamine flexuosa*
 Family: Brassicaceae
 Location: River bank at eastern part of Nilgiris
 Alt: 300 -400 MSL
 Date: 10 Feb 2011

 Dear all, is my id right? Please help me in figuring out the recent name
 of this and also the author citation.
 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org







-- 
*Tanay Bose*
Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
*Webpages:*
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:62935] Herb for ID from Morni Hills

2011-02-16 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Can it be Lindernia?
I thought Mazus will have long infl.
Regards
Pankaj


On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 Please Id this small herb recorded from Morni Hills, Haryana. Is this
 Mazus surculosus?
 Regards,
 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




-- 
***
TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!


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Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India


Re: [efloraofindia:62938] Herb for ID from Morni Hills

2011-02-16 Thread Nidhan Singh
Yes, it can be Lindernia ciliata, it has serrate margins of the leaves too.
Thanks for the input.
Regards,


-- 
Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:62940] Re: Plant for Id

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes, Giby ji, you are right


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.comwrote:

 It has opposite leaves..attaching another picture... sorry pic is blurred


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

 Smita,

 Please let us know whether the leaves are opposite or alternate.

 Regards
 Giby



 On Feb 16, 3:13 pm, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
  The background is very dark, but from what ever I can see, the leaves
 look
  alternate. Can it be Lobelia sp.
 
  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi,
 
   Please check for species of Lepidagathis of the family Acanthaceae.
 
   Regards,
   Giby
 
   On Feb 16, 10:21 am, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All
can anyone help me id of this plant plz
Some Acanthaceae plant??
it is herb found on hill at Sawantwadi Sindhudurg Maharashtra
Thanks
 
--
Smita raskar
308 Disha Residency,
Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
Mob.9763989639
 
 Picture 4858.jpg
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 --
 Smita raskar
 308 Disha Residency,
 Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
 Mob.9763989639




Re: [efloraofindia:62942] Small Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 3)

2011-02-16 Thread Na Bha
my guess is Kalanchoe
  - Original Message - 
  From: Samir Takaochi 
  To: indiantreepix 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:55 PM
  Subject: [efloraofindia:62941] Small Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 3)


  Thank you so much always for your kind advice!

  Could you advice me about name of this flower?

  Place: Ramgarh
  Timing: May End
  Type: Wild
  Flower Diameter:1cm
  Height:30cm

  Samir




Re: [efloraofindia:62943] Re: Knöterich from Ritterhude

2011-02-16 Thread Na Bha

Thank you Katarina and Hari Lal ji,
will have to wait till may june to observe the charastics. Will send new 
fotos then.

Nalini

- Original Message - 
From: Katarina katarina.sten...@emg.umu.se

To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 4:03 PM
Subject: [efloraofindia:62930] Re: Knöterich from Ritterhude


Polygonum lapathifolium is a common European weed. You have to check
for glandular hairs on the leaves and stem to be 100% sure.

/Katarina

On 16 Feb, 15:39, hari lal taxo@gmail.com wrote:

madam jee
if orcheate stipule is present ih this plant this is polygonum confirm
because it is the family character.
hari shankar lal

On 2/15/11, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:



 I hope it is also Polygonum sp.
 Regards
 Nalini- Dölj citerad text -

- Visa citerad text - 




Re: [efloraofindia:62944] Herb from Nilgiris for id 160211MK2

2011-02-16 Thread Alok
And we have them flowering now in Dalhousie.. almost the first flower
after winter
Alok

Nidhan Singh wrote:
 Hi,
 This is the same plant from Shimla, pic taken in November 2010.
 Regards,

 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:62946] Herb 1 for ID from Morni Hills

2011-02-16 Thread Prashant awale
Could this be Lobelia alsinoides??

regards
Prashant

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear All,
 Another member of the same family (Scrophulariaceae) from Morni Hills.
 Again a very small herb with light pinkish flowers. Please identify
 Regards,
 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227



Re: [efloraofindia:62947] Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 2)

2011-02-16 Thread Padmini Raghavan
It is a variety of Flaming Katy.
The bot name is something like Brosfeldiana.
Rgds,
Padmini Raghavan.

2011/2/15 Samir Takaochi bandob...@gmail.com

 Thank you so much always for your kind advice!

 Today I d like to know the name of following flower.

 Place: Ramgarh
 Timing: May End
 Type: Wild
 Flower Diameter:1cm
 Height:30cm

 Samir



Re: [efloraofindia:62948] ID request -16022011-PKA1

2011-02-16 Thread Dinesh Valke
*Baliospermum montanum* ... commonly known as: red physic nut, wild castor,
wild croton, wild sultan seed • Bengali: দন্তী danti, দন্তিগাছ dantigaacha •
Hindi: दन्ती danti • Kannada: ದಮ್ತಿ damti, ಕಾಡು ಹರಳು kaadu haralu, ನಾಗದಮ್ತಿ
naagadamti • Konkani: baktumbo • Malayalam: ചെറിയദന്തി ceriyadanthi,
നാഗദന്തി naagadanthi • Marathi: दंती danti, कातरी katari • Nepalese: अजय पाल
ajaya pal, दुधे झार dudhe jhaar • Oriya: ଏକ ପ୍ରକାରର ଔଷଧ • Sanskrit: दन्ती
danti, दन्तिका dantika, दीर्घ dirgha, एरण्डपत्रिका erandhapatrika, एरण्डफला
erandhaphala, मकूलकः makulakah, नागदन्ती nagadanti, नागविन्ना nagavinna,
निकुम्भः nikumbha, प्रत्यक्श्रेणी pratyaksreni, रेचनी rechani, रूक्षा
ruksha, शीघ्रा shigra, विशल्य vishalya, उडुम्बरपर्णी udumbaraparni • Tamil:
பேயாமணக்கு pey-amanakku • Telugu: అడవి ఆముదము adavi amudamu, కొండ ఆముదము
kond amudamu, నేల జీడి nela jidi, నేపాళము nepalamu

Regards.
Dinesh



On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I had seen this climbing herb at CBD Belapur hills, Navi Mumbai.

 Date/Time: 16-02-2011 / 09:15AM
 Location: CBD Belapur Hills, Navi Mumbai
 Habitat: Wild
 Plant Habit: Herb (around 1m long)
 Leaves: Alternate
 Flowers: Yellow, Flower head around 3 to 4mm.

 regards
 Prashant



Re: [efloraofindia:62949] ID request -16022011-PKA1

2011-02-16 Thread Prashant awale
Perfect. Thanks Dinesh for the ID. I had seen this plant for the first time.

 I had spotted 2 beetles on it and both gave good pose to my camera.

regards
Prashant

2011/2/16 Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com

 *Baliospermum montanum* ... commonly known as: red physic nut, wild
 castor, wild croton, wild sultan seed • Bengali: দন্তী danti, দন্তিগাছ
 dantigaacha • Hindi: दन्ती danti • Kannada: ದಮ್ತಿ damti, ಕಾಡು ಹರಳು kaadu
 haralu, ನಾಗದಮ್ತಿ naagadamti • Konkani: baktumbo • Malayalam: ചെറിയദന്തി
 ceriyadanthi, നാഗദന്തി naagadanthi • Marathi: दंती danti, कातरी katari •
 Nepalese: अजय पाल ajaya pal, दुधे झार dudhe jhaar • Oriya: ଏକ ପ୍ରକାରର ଔଷଧ •
 Sanskrit: दन्ती danti, दन्तिका dantika, दीर्घ dirgha, एरण्डपत्रिका
 erandhapatrika, एरण्डफला erandhaphala, मकूलकः makulakah, नागदन्ती nagadanti,
 नागविन्ना nagavinna, निकुम्भः nikumbha, प्रत्यक्श्रेणी pratyaksreni, रेचनी
 rechani, रूक्षा ruksha, शीघ्रा shigra, विशल्य vishalya, उडुम्बरपर्णी
 udumbaraparni • Tamil: பேயாமணக்கு pey-amanakku • Telugu: అడవి ఆముదము adavi
 amudamu, కొండ ఆముదము kond amudamu, నేల జీడి nela jidi, నేపాళము nepalamu

 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I had seen this climbing herb at CBD Belapur hills, Navi Mumbai.

 Date/Time: 16-02-2011 / 09:15AM
 Location: CBD Belapur Hills, Navi Mumbai
 Habitat: Wild
 Plant Habit: Herb (around 1m long)
 Leaves: Alternate
 Flowers: Yellow, Flower head around 3 to 4mm.

 regards
 Prashant





Re: [efloraofindia:62950] ID request -16022011-PKA1

2011-02-16 Thread Neil Soares
Hi,
 They are not beetles but Jewel bugs [Chrysocoris stolli].
   Regards,
Neil Soares.

--- On Wed, 2/16/11, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:62949] ID request -16022011-PKA1
To: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
Cc: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 11:33 PM


Perfect. Thanks Dinesh for the ID. I had seen this plant for the first time.

 I had spotted 2 beetles on it and both gave good pose to my camera.

regards
Prashant


2011/2/16 Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com

Baliospermum montanum ... commonly known as: red physic nut, wild castor, wild 
croton, wild sultan seed • Bengali: দন্তী danti, দন্তিগাছ dantigaacha • Hindi: 
दन्ती danti • Kannada: ದಮ್ತಿ damti, ಕಾಡು ಹರಳು kaadu haralu, ನಾಗದಮ್ತಿ naagadamti 
• Konkani: baktumbo • Malayalam: ചെറിയദന്തി ceriyadanthi, നാഗദന്തി naagadanthi 
• Marathi: दंती danti, कातरी katari • Nepalese: अजय पाल ajaya pal, दुधे झार 
dudhe jhaar • Oriya: ଏକ ପ୍ରକାରର ଔଷଧ • Sanskrit: दन्ती danti, दन्तिका dantika, 
दीर्घ dirgha, एरण्डपत्रिका erandhapatrika, एरण्डफला erandhaphala, मकूलकः 
makulakah, नागदन्ती nagadanti, नागविन्ना nagavinna, निकुम्भः nikumbha,
 प्रत्यक्श्रेणी pratyaksreni, रेचनी rechani, रूक्षा ruksha, शीघ्रा shigra, 
विशल्य vishalya, उडुम्बरपर्णी udumbaraparni • Tamil: பேயாமணக்கு pey-amanakku • 
Telugu: అడవి ఆముదము adavi amudamu, కొండ ఆముదము kond amudamu, నేల జీడి nela 
jidi, నేపాళము nepalamu

Regards.
Dinesh







On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Friends,

I had seen this climbing herb at CBD Belapur hills, Navi Mumbai. 

Date/Time: 16-02-2011 / 09:15AM
Location: CBD Belapur Hills, Navi Mumbai
Habitat: Wild
Plant Habit: Herb (around 1m long)
Leaves: Alternate
Flowers: Yellow, Flower head around 3 to 4mm.

regards
Prashant





  

Re: [efloraofindia:62951] ID request -16022011-PKA1

2011-02-16 Thread Prashant awale
Thanks Neil ji.
regards
Prashant

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi,
  They are not beetles but Jewel bugs [Chrysocoris stolli].
Regards,
 Neil Soares.

 --- On *Wed, 2/16/11, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:62949] ID request -16022011-PKA1
 To: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 Cc: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 11:33 PM


 Perfect. Thanks Dinesh for the ID. I had seen this plant for the first
 time.

  I had spotted 2 beetles on it and both gave good pose to my camera.

 regards
 Prashant

 2011/2/16 Dinesh Valke 
 dinesh.va...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 

 *Baliospermum montanum* ... commonly known as: red physic nut, wild
 castor, wild croton, wild sultan seed • Bengali: দন্তী danti, দন্তিগাছ
 dantigaacha • Hindi: दन्ती danti • Kannada: ದಮ್ತಿ damti, ಕಾಡು ಹರಳು kaadu
 haralu, ನಾಗದಮ್ತಿ naagadamti • Konkani: baktumbo • Malayalam: ചെറിയദന്തി
 ceriyadanthi, നാഗദന്തി naagadanthi • Marathi: दंती danti, कातरी katari •
 Nepalese: अजय पाल ajaya pal, दुधे झार dudhe jhaar • Oriya: ଏକ ପ୍ରକାରର ଔଷଧ •
 Sanskrit: दन्ती danti, दन्तिका dantika, दीर्घ dirgha, एरण्डपत्रिका
 erandhapatrika, एरण्डफला erandhaphala, मकूलकः makulakah, नागदन्ती nagadanti,
 नागविन्ना nagavinna, निकुम्भः nikumbha, प्रत्यक्श्रेणी pratyaksreni, रेचनी
 rechani, रूक्षा ruksha, शीघ्रा shigra, विशल्य vishalya, उडुम्बरपर्णी
 udumbaraparni • Tamil: பேயாமணக்கு pey-amanakku • Telugu: అడవి ఆముదము adavi
 amudamu, కొండ ఆముదము kond amudamu, నేల జీడి nela jidi, నేపాళము nepalamu

 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Prashant awale 
 pkaw...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pkaw...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I had seen this climbing herb at CBD Belapur hills, Navi Mumbai.

 Date/Time: 16-02-2011 / 09:15AM
 Location: CBD Belapur Hills, Navi Mumbai
 Habitat: Wild
 Plant Habit: Herb (around 1m long)
 Leaves: Alternate
 Flowers: Yellow, Flower head around 3 to 4mm.

 regards
 Prashant







Re: [efloraofindia:62952] ID request -16022011-PKA1

2011-02-16 Thread Dinesh Valke
Thanks to Nayan ji who had provided me this ID long ago !!
This herbaceous shrub is not a climbing herb as much have observed in
forests around Thane ... though of course, the plant often grows slant up to
a metre or two.

Regards.
Dinesh.




On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Perfect. Thanks Dinesh for the ID. I had seen this plant for the first
 time.

  I had spotted 2 beetles on it and both gave good pose to my camera.

 regards
 Prashant

 2011/2/16 Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com

 *Baliospermum montanum* ... commonly known as: red physic nut, wild
 castor, wild croton, wild sultan seed • Bengali: দন্তী danti, দন্তিগাছ
 dantigaacha • Hindi: दन्ती danti • Kannada: ದಮ್ತಿ damti, ಕಾಡು ಹರಳು kaadu
 haralu, ನಾಗದಮ್ತಿ naagadamti • Konkani: baktumbo • Malayalam: ചെറിയദന്തി
 ceriyadanthi, നാഗദന്തി naagadanthi • Marathi: दंती danti, कातरी katari •
 Nepalese: अजय पाल ajaya pal, दुधे झार dudhe jhaar • Oriya: ଏକ ପ୍ରକାରର ଔଷଧ •
 Sanskrit: दन्ती danti, दन्तिका dantika, दीर्घ dirgha, एरण्डपत्रिका
 erandhapatrika, एरण्डफला erandhaphala, मकूलकः makulakah, नागदन्ती nagadanti,
 नागविन्ना nagavinna, निकुम्भः nikumbha, प्रत्यक्श्रेणी pratyaksreni, रेचनी
 rechani, रूक्षा ruksha, शीघ्रा shigra, विशल्य vishalya, उडुम्बरपर्णी
 udumbaraparni • Tamil: பேயாமணக்கு pey-amanakku • Telugu: అడవి ఆముదము adavi
 amudamu, కొండ ఆముదము kond amudamu, నేల జీడి nela jidi, నేపాళము nepalamu

 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I had seen this climbing herb at CBD Belapur hills, Navi Mumbai.

 Date/Time: 16-02-2011 / 09:15AM
 Location: CBD Belapur Hills, Navi Mumbai
 Habitat: Wild
 Plant Habit: Herb (around 1m long)
 Leaves: Alternate
 Flowers: Yellow, Flower head around 3 to 4mm.

 regards
 Prashant






[efloraofindia:62953] Re: solanum xanthocarpum in kangra ( sameer rastogi)

2011-02-16 Thread Dr. Arvind Kadus
I think It is not 100 % S. virginianum. In the photograph it is not
looking as creeper. leaves also do not match.
Regards
Dr.Kadus Arvind,Pune.

On Feb 13, 10:10 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think S. viarum as suggested by Vijayasankar ji

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, sameer rastogi srastog...@gmail.comwrote:



  so what is it finally..S. xanthocarpum or viarum or virginianum/.

  On Feb 13, 4:16 am, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
   I too think it is not S. virginianum.
   This looks like S. viarum.

   Regards

   Vijayasankar Raman
   National Center for Natural Products Research
   University of Mississippi

   On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
  wrote:

I doubt this being S. virginianum because of taller habit and colour of
  the
leaves.

--
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
   http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

2011/2/12 Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com

... the current name: *Solanum virginianum* ... commonly known as:
  dwarf
wild brinjal, Jacquin's nightshade, prickly brinjal, prickly
  nightshade,
thai eggplant, thorny nightshade, yellow-berried-night shade,
  yellow-fruit
nightshade • Assamese: কণ্টকাৰি kantakaari • Bengali: কংটকরী kantakari
  •
Gujarati: બેઠી ભોંય રિંગણી bethi bhoy ringani • Hindi: बंगकटिया
  bang-katiya,
भटकटैया bhat-kataiya, भीरु bhiru, कण्टकारी kantakari, कटेली kateli,
  ऊंट
कंटेली oonth-kateli, रेंगनी rengni • Kannada: ನೆಲಗುಳ್ಳ nelagulla,
  ರಾಮಗುಳ್ಳ
raamagulla • Manipuri: লৈপুংখাংগ leipungkhanga • Marathi: डोरली रिंगणी
dorali ringani, कंटकारी kantakari, कांटेरिंगणी kanteringani, रिंगणी
  ringani
• Nepalese: अड़ेरि areri, दमनी damani, कण्टकारि kantakari • Oriya:
  rengini
bhejiri • Punjabi: ਛੋਟੀ ਮੌਹਰੀ chhoti mauhari, ਊਂਟ ਕਟਾਰਾ unt katara •
Sanskrit: अग्निदमनी agni-damani, अनाक्रान्ता anakranta, भीरु bhiru,
दुःस्पर्ष duhsparsha, कण्टकश्रेणी kantaka-shreni, कण्टकारी kantakari,
कासघ्नी kasagni, निर्दिग्धा nirdigdha, प्रचोदिनी prachodini, प्रपूरिका
prapurika, राष्ट्रिका rashtrika, वार्हत varhat • Tamil: கண்டங்கத்தரி
kantankattari • Telugu: గుర్రపు గట్టాకు gurrapu-gatt-aku, క్షుద్రము
kshudramu, నేలముల్లాకు nela-mull-aku, వ్రాకుడు vrakudu • Urdu: گل خار
  gul
khar

Regards
Dinesh.

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:00 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Thanks for sharing Sameers ji
tanay

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:26 AM, sameer rastogi 
  srastog...@gmail.comwrote:

common name :yellow nightshade

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Re: [efloraofindia:62954] Herb for ID from Morni Hills

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
Lindernia ciliata from me too
Tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes, it can be Lindernia ciliata, it has serrate margins of the leaves too.
 Thanks for the input.
 Regards,


 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




-- 
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Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
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Re: [efloraofindia:62955] Small Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 3)

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
*Kalanchoe blossfeldiana??*
Tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:

  my guess is *Kalanchoe*

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Samir Takaochi bandob...@gmail.com
 *To:* indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:55 PM
 *Subject:* [efloraofindia:62941] Small Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 3)

  Thank you so much always for your kind advice!

 Could you advice me about name of this flower?

 Place: Ramgarh
 Timing: May End
 Type: Wild
 Flower Diameter:1cm
 Height:30cm

 Samir





-- 
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Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
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Re: [efloraofindia:62956] Herb 1 for ID from Morni Hills

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
Lobelia alsinoides I think this was previously known as Lobelia trigona
tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Could this be Lobelia alsinoides??

 regards
 Prashant


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear All,
 Another member of the same family (Scrophulariaceae) from Morni Hills.
 Again a very small herb with light pinkish flowers. Please identify
 Regards,
 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227





-- 
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Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
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Re: [efloraofindia:62957] ID request -16022011-PKA1

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
*Baliospermum montanum *previously this was in genus Jatropha
***Tanay
*
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks to Nayan ji who had provided me this ID long ago !!
 This herbaceous shrub is not a climbing herb as much have observed in
 forests around Thane ... though of course, the plant often grows slant up to
 a metre or two.

 Regards.
 Dinesh.





 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Perfect. Thanks Dinesh for the ID. I had seen this plant for the first
 time.

  I had spotted 2 beetles on it and both gave good pose to my camera.

 regards
 Prashant

 2011/2/16 Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com

 *Baliospermum montanum* ... commonly known as: red physic nut, wild
 castor, wild croton, wild sultan seed • Bengali: দন্তী danti, দন্তিগাছ
 dantigaacha • Hindi: दन्ती danti • Kannada: ದಮ್ತಿ damti, ಕಾಡು ಹರಳು kaadu
 haralu, ನಾಗದಮ್ತಿ naagadamti • Konkani: baktumbo • Malayalam: ചെറിയദന്തി
 ceriyadanthi, നാഗദന്തി naagadanthi • Marathi: दंती danti, कातरी katari •
 Nepalese: अजय पाल ajaya pal, दुधे झार dudhe jhaar • Oriya: ଏକ ପ୍ରକାରର ଔଷଧ •
 Sanskrit: दन्ती danti, दन्तिका dantika, दीर्घ dirgha, एरण्डपत्रिका
 erandhapatrika, एरण्डफला erandhaphala, मकूलकः makulakah, नागदन्ती nagadanti,
 नागविन्ना nagavinna, निकुम्भः nikumbha, प्रत्यक्श्रेणी pratyaksreni, रेचनी
 rechani, रूक्षा ruksha, शीघ्रा shigra, विशल्य vishalya, उडुम्बरपर्णी
 udumbaraparni • Tamil: பேயாமணக்கு pey-amanakku • Telugu: అడవి ఆముదము adavi
 amudamu, కొండ ఆముదము kond amudamu, నేల జీడి nela jidi, నేపాళము nepalamu

 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I had seen this climbing herb at CBD Belapur hills, Navi Mumbai.

 Date/Time: 16-02-2011 / 09:15AM
 Location: CBD Belapur Hills, Navi Mumbai
 Habitat: Wild
 Plant Habit: Herb (around 1m long)
 Leaves: Alternate
 Flowers: Yellow, Flower head around 3 to 4mm.

 regards
 Prashant







-- 
*Tanay Bose*
Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
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Re: [efloraofindia:62958] Re: Sterculia villosa

2011-02-16 Thread Smita Raskar
Let me clear myself...i did not mean to hurt Snehal either
Being elderly person i was trying to make her realise ..knowing or
unknowingly she has made mistake.. thats it
1 or 2  elderly members of us told Snehal about her mistake matter
should be finished
why so many member are posting as if all are against her,  making her
target?
what is it all? is it not like insulting her too? is it not repeating her
mistake ?
why the thread was not closed when Dr. Pankaj said so?
eflora belonging to all  members right?
i feel really sorry after reading all these post...
Secondly... with all due respect for plant enthusiasts and those who are
studying plants let me say something
 It is very true pioneers of taxonomy were non botanist
 but they were not botanist they have dedicated their whole life for
studying plants
Studying plant taxonomy is not as easy as reciting few latin names of plants
or comparing pictures for id... everyone knows it well
so let us value our scientist experts on eflora   ..and each member
we are fortunate enough to have experts here on this site and as our
friends.. they are giving us their precious time.
let us enrich our knowledge with their help instead of making big issues of
small things
I hope all of you will take me rightly...i repeat i do not want to insult or
hurt anyone
l already said lets be good friends and learn from each other
thanks


On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is not necessary that all botanists can id plants.
 Please remember that all our pioneer references on plant taxonomy in
 India or elsewhere have been done by non-botanists/biologists.
 We do refer taxa identified and described by doctors or army men.
 I am a trained taxonomist. But I made mistakes several times. I do
 agree and admit those mistakes when someone pointed out or I myself
 happened to notice the same.

 I think Snehal was in a hurry to post the mail and made the statement
 without thinking much.
 Let us join hands to share, learn and understand about plants around
 us more importantly to conserve and protect them in its natural
 habitat. let us join hands to fight against the facts that destroy the
 natural resources that are meant for the next generation/s too.

 I completely agree with Vijashankar and Smitha.
 It is the passion that takes you ahead. Hence keep going ahead with
 the passion (interest comes along).


 Regards
 Giby


 On Feb 15, 9:08 pm, snehal patel snehal.patel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rashida ji,
 
  i think you are very poor in identification. Before posting anything
 please
  get it confirm as you are not a botanists.
 
  the posted images are of Sterculia urens and not of Sterculia villosa.
 
  ok
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM, rajdeo singh rajdeo.1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Rashida ji,
   the posted images are of  *Sterculia urens* Roxb.
 
   ***
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   Project fellow
   St. Xavier's College,
   Mumbai




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[efloraofindia:62959] Re: solanum xanthocarpum in kangra ( sameer rastogi)

2011-02-16 Thread sameer rastogi
could it be S.indicum?
sameer

On Feb 16, 11:25 pm, Dr. Arvind Kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in
wrote:
 I think It is not 100 % S. virginianum. In the photograph it is not
 looking as creeper. leaves also do not match.
 Regards
 Dr.Kadus Arvind,Pune.

 On Feb 13, 10:10 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:



  I think S. viarum as suggested by Vijayasankar ji

  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

  On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, sameer rastogi srastog...@gmail.comwrote:

   so what is it finally..S. xanthocarpum or viarum or virginianum/.

   On Feb 13, 4:16 am, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
I too think it is not S. virginianum.
This looks like S. viarum.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com
   wrote:

 I doubt this being S. virginianum because of taller habit and colour 
 of
   the
 leaves.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 2011/2/12 Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com

 ... the current name: *Solanum virginianum* ... commonly known as:
   dwarf
 wild brinjal, Jacquin's nightshade, prickly brinjal, prickly
   nightshade,
 thai eggplant, thorny nightshade, yellow-berried-night shade,
   yellow-fruit
 nightshade • Assamese: কণ্টকাৰি kantakaari • Bengali: কংটকরী 
 kantakari
   •
 Gujarati: બેઠી ભોંય રિંગણી bethi bhoy ringani • Hindi: बंगकटिया
   bang-katiya,
 भटकटैया bhat-kataiya, भीरु bhiru, कण्टकारी kantakari, कटेली kateli,
   ऊंट
 कंटेली oonth-kateli, रेंगनी rengni • Kannada: ನೆಲಗುಳ್ಳ nelagulla,
   ರಾಮಗುಳ್ಳ
 raamagulla • Manipuri: লৈপুংখাংগ leipungkhanga • Marathi: डोरली 
 रिंगणी
 dorali ringani, कंटकारी kantakari, कांटेरिंगणी kanteringani, रिंगणी
   ringani
 • Nepalese: अड़ेरि areri, दमनी damani, कण्टकारि kantakari • Oriya:
   rengini
 bhejiri • Punjabi: ਛੋਟੀ ਮੌਹਰੀ chhoti mauhari, ਊਂਟ ਕਟਾਰਾ unt katara •
 Sanskrit: अग्निदमनी agni-damani, अनाक्रान्ता anakranta, भीरु bhiru,
 दुःस्पर्ष duhsparsha, कण्टकश्रेणी kantaka-shreni, कण्टकारी kantakari,
 कासघ्नी kasagni, निर्दिग्धा nirdigdha, प्रचोदिनी prachodini, 
 प्रपूरिका
 prapurika, राष्ट्रिका rashtrika, वार्हत varhat • Tamil: கண்டங்கத்தரி
 kantankattari • Telugu: గుర్రపు గట్టాకు gurrapu-gatt-aku, క్షుద్రము
 kshudramu, నేలముల్లాకు nela-mull-aku, వ్రాకుడు vrakudu • Urdu: گل خار
   gul
 khar

 Regards
 Dinesh.

 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:00 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com
   wrote:

 Thanks for sharing Sameers ji
 tanay

 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:26 AM, sameer rastogi 
   srastog...@gmail.comwrote:

 common name :yellow nightshade

 --
 With Best Wishes:
 __
 SAMEER  RASTOGI
 Conservator of Forests Wildlife ( North)
 Forest Complex,
 Dharamshala-176215
 Distt Kangra (HP)
 01892-224939(o),226849(R)
 9418117640 ( HP plan)

 --
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 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
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Re: [efloraofindia:62960] Re: Sterculia villosa

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
All of us are getting emotional in one way or another.

NO FURTHER POSTS IN THIS THREAD PLEASE

THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALL


-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.comwrote:

 Let me clear myself...i did not mean to hurt Snehal either
 Being elderly person i was trying to make her realise ..knowing or
 unknowingly she has made mistake.. thats it
 1 or 2  elderly members of us told Snehal about her mistake matter
 should be finished
 why so many member are posting as if all are against her,  making her
 target?
 what is it all? is it not like insulting her too? is it not repeating her
 mistake ?
 why the thread was not closed when Dr. Pankaj said so?
 eflora belonging to all  members right?
 i feel really sorry after reading all these post...
 Secondly... with all due respect for plant enthusiasts and those who are
 studying plants let me say something
  It is very true pioneers of taxonomy were non botanist
  but they were not botanist they have dedicated their whole life for
 studying plants
 Studying plant taxonomy is not as easy as reciting few latin names of
 plants or comparing pictures for id... everyone knows it well
 so let us value our scientist experts on eflora   ..and each member
 we are fortunate enough to have experts here on this site and as our
 friends.. they are giving us their precious time.
 let us enrich our knowledge with their help instead of making big issues of
 small things
 I hope all of you will take me rightly...i repeat i do not want to insult
 or hurt anyone
 l already said lets be good friends and learn from each other
 thanks


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

 It is not necessary that all botanists can id plants.
 Please remember that all our pioneer references on plant taxonomy in
 India or elsewhere have been done by non-botanists/biologists.
 We do refer taxa identified and described by doctors or army men.
 I am a trained taxonomist. But I made mistakes several times. I do
 agree and admit those mistakes when someone pointed out or I myself
 happened to notice the same.

 I think Snehal was in a hurry to post the mail and made the statement
 without thinking much.
 Let us join hands to share, learn and understand about plants around
 us more importantly to conserve and protect them in its natural
 habitat. let us join hands to fight against the facts that destroy the
 natural resources that are meant for the next generation/s too.

 I completely agree with Vijashankar and Smitha.
 It is the passion that takes you ahead. Hence keep going ahead with
 the passion (interest comes along).


 Regards
 Giby


 On Feb 15, 9:08 pm, snehal patel snehal.patel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rashida ji,
 
  i think you are very poor in identification. Before posting anything
 please
  get it confirm as you are not a botanists.
 
  the posted images are of Sterculia urens and not of Sterculia villosa.
 
  ok
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM, rajdeo singh rajdeo.1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Rashida ji,
   the posted images are of  *Sterculia urens* Roxb.
 
   ***
   Rajdeo Singh
   Project fellow
   St. Xavier's College,
   Mumbai




 --
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 308 Disha Residency,
 Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
 Mob.9763989639




Re: [efloraofindia:62961] Herb from Nilgiris for id 160211MK2

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes one of the very common species of this genus


-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Alok alokisabe...@gmail.com wrote:

 And we have them flowering now in Dalhousie.. almost the first flower
 after winter
 Alok

 Nidhan Singh wrote:
  Hi,
  This is the same plant from Shimla, pic taken in November 2010.
  Regards,
 
  --
  Dr. Nidhan Singh
  Department of Botany
  I.B. (PG) College
  Panipat-132103 Haryana
  Ph.: 09416371227



Re: [efloraofindia:62962] Re: solanum xanthocarpum in kangra ( sameer rastogi)

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Sameer ji
S. indicum is no longer a valid name. The plants described under this in FBI
may belong to  A. violaceum, S. lasiocarpum, S. anguivi or even S. viarum.



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:13 AM, sameer rastogi srastog...@gmail.comwrote:

 could it be S.indicum?
 sameer

 On Feb 16, 11:25 pm, Dr. Arvind Kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in
 wrote:
  I think It is not 100 % S. virginianum. In the photograph it is not
  looking as creeper. leaves also do not match.
  Regards
  Dr.Kadus Arvind,Pune.
 
  On Feb 13, 10:10 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   I think S. viarum as suggested by Vijayasankar ji
 
   --
   Dr. Gurcharan Singh
   Retired  Associate Professor
   SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
   Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
   Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
   On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:37 AM, sameer rastogi srastog...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
so what is it finally..S. xanthocarpum or viarum or virginianum/.
 
On Feb 13, 4:16 am, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I too think it is not S. virginianum.
 This looks like S. viarum.
 
 Regards
 
 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi
 
 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh 
 singh...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
  I doubt this being S. virginianum because of taller habit and
 colour of
the
  leaves.
 
  --
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
 
  2011/2/12 Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 
  ... the current name: *Solanum virginianum* ... commonly known
 as:
dwarf
  wild brinjal, Jacquin's nightshade, prickly brinjal, prickly
nightshade,
  thai eggplant, thorny nightshade, yellow-berried-night shade,
yellow-fruit
  nightshade • Assamese: কণ্টকাৰি kantakaari • Bengali: কংটকরী
 kantakari
•
  Gujarati: બેઠી ભોંય રિંગણી bethi bhoy ringani • Hindi: बंगकटिया
bang-katiya,
  भटकटैया bhat-kataiya, भीरु bhiru, कण्टकारी kantakari, कटेली
 kateli,
ऊंट
  कंटेली oonth-kateli, रेंगनी rengni • Kannada: ನೆಲಗುಳ್ಳ
 nelagulla,
ರಾಮಗುಳ್ಳ
  raamagulla • Manipuri: লৈপুংখাংগ leipungkhanga • Marathi: डोरली
 रिंगणी
  dorali ringani, कंटकारी kantakari, कांटेरिंगणी kanteringani,
 रिंगणी
ringani
  • Nepalese: अड़ेरि areri, दमनी damani, कण्टकारि kantakari •
 Oriya:
rengini
  bhejiri • Punjabi: ਛੋਟੀ ਮੌਹਰੀ chhoti mauhari, ਊਂਟ ਕਟਾਰਾ unt
 katara •
  Sanskrit: अग्निदमनी agni-damani, अनाक्रान्ता anakranta, भीरु
 bhiru,
  दुःस्पर्ष duhsparsha, कण्टकश्रेणी kantaka-shreni, कण्टकारी
 kantakari,
  कासघ्नी kasagni, निर्दिग्धा nirdigdha, प्रचोदिनी prachodini,
 प्रपूरिका
  prapurika, राष्ट्रिका rashtrika, वार्हत varhat • Tamil:
 கண்டங்கத்தரி
  kantankattari • Telugu: గుర్రపు గట్టాకు gurrapu-gatt-aku,
 క్షుద్రము
  kshudramu, నేలముల్లాకు nela-mull-aku, వ్రాకుడు vrakudu • Urdu:
 گل خار
gul
  khar
 
  Regards
  Dinesh.
 
  On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:00 PM, tanay bose 
 tanaybos...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
  Thanks for sharing Sameers ji
  tanay
 
  On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:26 AM, sameer rastogi 
srastog...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  common name :yellow nightshade
 
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  Dharamshala-176215
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  Department of Botany.
  University of British Columbia .
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  Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
  Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
 604-822-2019 (Lab)
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Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


[efloraofindia:62964] Re: Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 2)

2011-02-16 Thread Mahadeswara
This is one of the ornamental Kalanchoe species.  Very common in
Chennai gardens during Jan - Feb.   However, the most common one is
the red variety.

On Feb 16, 10:42 pm, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is a variety of Flaming Katy.
 The bot name is something like Brosfeldiana.
 Rgds,
 Padmini Raghavan.

 2011/2/15 Samir Takaochi bandob...@gmail.com





  Thank you so much always for your kind advice!

  Today I d like to know the name of following flower.

  Place: Ramgarh
  Timing: May End
  Type: Wild
  Flower Diameter:1cm
  Height:30cm

  Samir




Re: [efloraofindia:62966] Re: Sterculia villosa

2011-02-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Dr. Gurcharan ji,

I would like to make certain observations here: Smita jis' second post is
completely uncalled for. There are  not so many mails against Snehal. Infact
none. Only Giby ji has written perfectly sound mail  in general to the group
expressing his views. Smita ji has no right to be angry about that . Smita
ji's symphaties can be understood, after all just a while back she had
suddenly come on the group and said 'no guesses please' I have met Smita ji
only at Sawantwadi and am aware of her proneness to such emotional
outbursts.

Why the thread had not closed when Dr. Pankaj asked is because of the timing
he decided to close and the words he used- just when I was having a
perfectly cordial converstion with Rajdeo ji he came on and said the thread
should be closed . My questions of why he than influenced Rajdeo ji to not
resppond are still not answered on itpmods and also other questions  of
words he used in the other thread.

The lady in question Snehal ji has  not apologised to me yet. She has joined
the group only in November 2010  as per the records. How a new person with
hardly any contribution to the group caan have the courage to write such
mails is to be examined. Did someone instigate her?

Yes please close the thread now, but my questions have to be answered and
the apology has to come.

regards,
Rashida.




On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 All of us are getting emotional in one way or another.

 NO FURTHER POSTS IN THIS THREAD PLEASE

 THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALL


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

   On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Smita Raskar 
 smita.ras...@gmail.comwrote:

 Let me clear myself...i did not mean to hurt Snehal either
 Being elderly person i was trying to make her realise ..knowing or
 unknowingly she has made mistake.. thats it
 1 or 2  elderly members of us told Snehal about her mistake matter
 should be finished
 why so many member are posting as if all are against her,  making her
 target?
 what is it all? is it not like insulting her too? is it not repeating her
 mistake ?
 why the thread was not closed when Dr. Pankaj said so?
 eflora belonging to all  members right?
 i feel really sorry after reading all these post...
 Secondly... with all due respect for plant enthusiasts and those who are
 studying plants let me say something
  It is very true pioneers of taxonomy were non botanist
  but they were not botanist they have dedicated their whole life for
 studying plants
 Studying plant taxonomy is not as easy as reciting few latin names of
 plants or comparing pictures for id... everyone knows it well
 so let us value our scientist experts on eflora   ..and each member
 we are fortunate enough to have experts here on this site and as our
 friends.. they are giving us their precious time.
 let us enrich our knowledge with their help instead of making big issues
 of small things
 I hope all of you will take me rightly...i repeat i do not want to insult
 or hurt anyone
 l already said lets be good friends and learn from each other
 thanks


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

 It is not necessary that all botanists can id plants.
 Please remember that all our pioneer references on plant taxonomy in
 India or elsewhere have been done by non-botanists/biologists.
 We do refer taxa identified and described by doctors or army men.
 I am a trained taxonomist. But I made mistakes several times. I do
 agree and admit those mistakes when someone pointed out or I myself
 happened to notice the same.

 I think Snehal was in a hurry to post the mail and made the statement
 without thinking much.
 Let us join hands to share, learn and understand about plants around
 us more importantly to conserve and protect them in its natural
 habitat. let us join hands to fight against the facts that destroy the
 natural resources that are meant for the next generation/s too.

 I completely agree with Vijashankar and Smitha.
 It is the passion that takes you ahead. Hence keep going ahead with
 the passion (interest comes along).


 Regards
 Giby


 On Feb 15, 9:08 pm, snehal patel snehal.patel...@gmail.com wrote:
  Rashida ji,
 
  i think you are very poor in identification. Before posting anything
 please
  get it confirm as you are not a botanists.
 
  the posted images are of Sterculia urens and not of Sterculia villosa.
 
  ok
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM, rajdeo singh rajdeo.1...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Rashida ji,
   the posted images are of  *Sterculia urens* Roxb.
 
   ***
   Rajdeo Singh
   Project fellow
   St. Xavier's College,
   Mumbai




 --
 Smita raskar
  308 Disha Residency,
 Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
 Mob.9763989639







Re: [efloraofindia:62967] Herb for ID from Morni Hills

2011-02-16 Thread Muthu Karthick
Yes, This is *Lindernia ciliata* (Colsm.) Pennell of Scrophulariaceae.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:55 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lindernia ciliata from me too
 Tanay

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes, it can be Lindernia ciliata, it has serrate margins of the leaves
 too.
 Thanks for the input.
 Regards,


 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
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Re: [efloraofindia:62969] Herb from Ooty for id 160211MK3

2011-02-16 Thread Muthu Karthick
Yes, Gurucharan sir, many many thanks for the valuable input. Now I could
confirm this plant with deeply lobed petals as *Stellaria media* (L.) Vill.
of Caryophyllaceae.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Muthu ji
 Arenaria was my first reaction also, but the basic difference between
 Arenaria and Stellaria is that the petals of Arenaria are entire (and one
 would see only 5), and deeply bi-lobed in Stellaria (giving the appearance
 of 10). One can clearly see 8-10 in your photographs.


 --
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 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 A reply from Amitji - - is it *Arenaria **serpyllifolia* L.


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.comwrote:

 But isn't the flowers [petals] are smaller on my plant sir? when compared
 to S. media


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes looks like Stellaria media


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hi,
 Can it be any Stellaria sp. from Caryophyllaceae?
















 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227






 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org







-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:62970] Herb from Nilgiris for id 160211MK2

2011-02-16 Thread Muthu Karthick
A reply from Amit chauhanji -- looks like Veronica persica
(Scrophulariaceae)

Dear all,
Many thanks for the id and I can easily see the images of this plant in
Google.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes one of the very common species of this genus


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Alok alokisabe...@gmail.com wrote:

 And we have them flowering now in Dalhousie.. almost the first flower
 after winter
 Alok

 Nidhan Singh wrote:
  Hi,
  This is the same plant from Shimla, pic taken in November 2010.
  Regards,
 
  --
  Dr. Nidhan Singh
  Department of Botany
  I.B. (PG) College
  Panipat-132103 Haryana
  Ph.: 09416371227






-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:62971] Zeuxine longilabris (Lindl.) Benth. ex Hook.f.

2011-02-16 Thread Dr Santhosh Kumar
Yes, it is Zeuxine longilabris

Santhosh

On 17 February 2011 10:02, manudev madhavan manudevkmadha...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hi,

 attaching the image of Zeuxine longilabris (Lindl.) Benth. ex Hook.f.

 please validate

 regards
 --
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 Junior Research Fellow
 Systematic  Floristic Lab,
 Department of Botany,
 Centre for Postgraduate Studies  Research
 St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
 Kozhikode- 673 008
 Mob: 9496470738




-- 
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--
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Thiruvananthapuram-695562
Kerala
India
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Re: [efloraofindia:62972] Zeuxine longilabris (Lindl.) Benth. ex Hook.f.

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
Thanks for the post!!
Very nice close up of the flowers
Tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:32 PM, manudev madhavan 
manudevkmadha...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 attaching the image of Zeuxine longilabris (Lindl.) Benth. ex Hook.f.

 please validate

 regards
 --
 *Manudev K Madhavan*
 Junior Research Fellow
 Systematic  Floristic Lab,
 Department of Botany,
 Centre for Postgraduate Studies  Research
 St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
 Kozhikode- 673 008
 Mob: 9496470738




-- 
*Tanay Bose*
Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
*Webpages:*
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:62973] Small Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 3)

2011-02-16 Thread Samir Takaochi
Padmini ji, Na Bha ji, Tanay ji, thank you so much for your kind advice
always!

It looks Kalanchoe. Thank you!

Samir
2011/2/17 tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com

 *Kalanchoe blossfeldiana??*
 Tanay

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote:

  my guess is *Kalanchoe*

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Samir Takaochi bandob...@gmail.com
 *To:* indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2011 5:55 PM
 *Subject:* [efloraofindia:62941] Small Yellow flower(Samir Takaochi 3)

  Thank you so much always for your kind advice!

 Could you advice me about name of this flower?

 Place: Ramgarh
 Timing: May End
 Type: Wild
 Flower Diameter:1cm
 Height:30cm

 Samir





 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
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Re: [efloraofindia:62975] Oncoba spinosa

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
Very Nice shot Pravin ji
the flower looks gorgeous
tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 Is it oncoba spinosa
 Fried egg tree
 Pl.Validate
 Yesterday at Alibag( Mohina Macker's Farm)
 Thanks in advance


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Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
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Re: [efloraofindia:62976] Cardiospermum halicacabum

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
Splendid shop Pravin ji
a common weed in Bengal
tanay

2011/2/16 Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.com

 Hi,
 Cardiospermum halicacabum
 Balloon Vine
 Mar.name Kanphuti, kapalphodi
 Reagrds


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Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
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Re: [efloraofindia:62977] please identify this plant

2011-02-16 Thread tanay bose
*Hemigraphis latebrosa*
Tanay

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:37 PM, manudev madhavan 
manudevkmadha...@gmail.com wrote:



 Do any body know this plant???
 collected from Thamarassery Ghat, Kozhikode Dist, Kerala

 regards
 --
 *Manudev K Madhavan*
 Junior Research Fellow
 Systematic  Floristic Lab,
 Department of Botany,
 Centre for Postgraduate Studies  Research
 St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
 Kozhikode- 673 008
 Mob: 9496470738




-- 
*Tanay Bose*
Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
3529-6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
*Webpages:*
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:62979] Oncoba spinosa

2011-02-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Very nIce pictures Pravin ji. Yes it is  Oncoba spinosa, The fruit is
edible.

regards,
Rashida.

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Pravin Kawale kawale.pra...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 Is it oncoba spinosa
 Fried egg tree
 Pl.Validate
 Yesterday at Alibag( Mohina Macker's Farm)
 Thanks in advance


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[efloraofindia:62983] Galactagogue herb

2011-02-16 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Dear Group Members,

   Here is recently uploaded video on Galactagogue herb from Chhattisgarh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsCRb5yrlI


regards

Pankaj Oudhia


[efloraofindia:62984] Sacred Kathpipal Tree

2011-02-16 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Dear Group Members,

Recently uploaded video of Sacred Kathpipal tree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c-2GQIB4IUfeature=related

regards

Pankaj Oudhia


[efloraofindia:62985] Tendu-Gasti Tree Combination

2011-02-16 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Dear Group Members,

   Diospyros-Ficus tree combination is considered very important in
Traditional Healing. Here is recently uploaded video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h-52N7TXoIfeature=related

regards

Pankaj Oudhia


Re: [efloraofindia:62986] ID170211phk1

2011-02-16 Thread rajdeo singh
Hello,
It looks like *Hydrolea zeylanica* (L.) Vahl from Hydrophylllaceae

***
Rajdeo Singh
Project fellow
St. Xavier's College,
Mumbai


[efloraofindia:62987] Leaving the group-Thanks for the wonderful learning experience.

2011-02-16 Thread Rashida Atthar
Dear members of eflorofindia,

Today, a while back I have received a mail from Garg ji saying that in the
best interest for mainting harmony on the group I withdraw from being a
moderator of the group. I thought for a while as to what triggered this.
Yesterday, I recieved a mail from Dr. Gurcharan ji asking me not to respond
to Dr. Pankaj Kumar's mails till matters are sorted out. I was awaiting
some  kind of resolution of  the matter. Now it has become very clear to be
that the agenda of Dr.Pankaj Kumar to attack me constantly and ultimately
get me out as a  moderator seems to be working,

 If this is the perception and action of the owner of this group ids
asstated  than  I think I should no longer continue with the group at all. I
joined the group on the invitation of Garg ji on 31st December 2008. I
joined as a moderator on the invitation and approval of majority moderators
on 8 May 2010.  I was looking forward and infact working on the family
Euphorbiaceae that I had volunteered to coordinate next month. That will no
longer happen from my end.

I wish to thanks all the members and experts for the enriching inputs and
exhange of taxonomy information so generously  all the time. All the very
best for the group. Goodbye.

regards,
Rashida.


Re: [efloraofindia:62988] Garden shrub for id 170211MK2

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Perhaps Spiraea cantoniensis


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 Please help to id this shrub planted in garden. For me, this looks more
 like a Rosaceae member.

  *Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 12:15 PM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden

 *Plant Habit-*
 shrub

 *Height/Length-*

 c 1.5cm long

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 ca.5 x 2 cm

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 umbellate

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 White; c. 2 cm across

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
 *
 *

 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




Re: [efloraofindia:62990] Herb for id from Ooty 170211MK1

2011-02-16 Thread manudev madhavan
Could this be *Oenothera rosea?*
I had posted this species earlier for id

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 Please help to id this herb. Photographed on a private garden floor at
 Ooty, Nilgiris.

  *Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 11:10 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden floor

 *Plant Habit-*
 herb

 *Height/Length-*

 30 cm long

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 ca.5 x 3 cm;

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 single

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 c. 2.5 cm across

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

 *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *


 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




-- 
*Manudev K Madhavan*
Junior Research Fellow
Systematic  Floristic Lab,
Department of Botany,
Centre for Postgraduate Studies  Research
St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
Kozhikode- 673 008
Mob: 9496470738


Re: [efloraofindia:62991] Herb for ID from Morni Hills

2011-02-16 Thread manudev madhavan
*Lindernia ciliata*

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, This is *Lindernia ciliata* (Colsm.) Pennell of Scrophulariaceae.


 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:55 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

 Lindernia ciliata from me too
 Tanay

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Nidhan Singh 
 nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes, it can be Lindernia ciliata, it has serrate margins of the leaves
 too.
 Thanks for the input.
 Regards,


 --
 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




-- 
*Manudev K Madhavan*
Junior Research Fellow
Systematic  Floristic Lab,
Department of Botany,
Centre for Postgraduate Studies  Research
St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
Kozhikode- 673 008
Mob: 9496470738


Re: [efloraofindia:62992] Herb for id from Ooty 170211MK1

2011-02-16 Thread Prashant awale
Dear Muthu ji,
I think this one is Oenothera roseum ( Family: Onagraceae).
regards
Prashant

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 Please help to id this herb. Photographed on a private garden floor at
 Ooty, Nilgiris.

*Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 11:10 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden floor

 *Plant Habit-*
 herb

  *Height/Length-*

 30 cm long

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 ca.5 x 3 cm;

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 single

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 c. 2.5 cm across

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

  *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *


 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




Re: [efloraofindia:62993] please identify this plant

2011-02-16 Thread Prashant awale
Yes Tanay ji, this is *Hemigraphis latebrosa*   (Family: Acanthaceae).
regards
Prashant

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:47 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Hemigraphis latebrosa*
 Tanay

 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 8:37 PM, manudev madhavan 
 manudevkmadha...@gmail.com wrote:



 Do any body know this plant???
 collected from Thamarassery Ghat, Kozhikode Dist, Kerala

 regards
 --
 *Manudev K Madhavan*
 Junior Research Fellow
 Systematic  Floristic Lab,
 Department of Botany,
 Centre for Postgraduate Studies  Research
 St. Joseph's College, Devagiri
 Kozhikode- 673 008
 Mob: 9496470738




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research Assistant  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 3529-6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
604-822-2019 (Lab)
604-822-6089  (Fax)
 ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
  *Webpages:*
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





Re: [efloraofindia:62994] Herb for id from Ooty 170211MK1

2011-02-16 Thread hari lal
if nematodes present  to confirm onagraceae  because this is the
family character
hari shankar lal

On 2/17/11, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Muthu ji,
 I think this one is Oenothera roseum ( Family: Onagraceae).
 regards
 Prashant

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 Please help to id this herb. Photographed on a private garden floor at
 Ooty, Nilgiris.

*Date/Time-*

 24-01-2011 / 11:10 AM

 *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

 ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN

 *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

 garden floor

 *Plant Habit-*
 herb

  *Height/Length-*

 30 cm long

 *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

 ca.5 x 3 cm;

 *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

 single

 *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

 c. 2.5 cm across

 *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *

  *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *


 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org





Re: [efloraofindia:62995] Leaving the group-Thanks for the wonderful learning experience.

2011-02-16 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Rashida ji,

   Please rethink on your decision. Very few active members are here. You
are one of them.

Few years back some Kala wrote to me that whatever I have written while
documenting Traditional knowledge is available in Delhi bus stand.

He was asking for documents related to Chhattisgarh biodiversity for his
research report.

At first moment I felt very bad. But it is occupational hazard. I replied to
him Please go to Delhi bus stand you will get the documents.

It is part of life. So, just ignore it.

I humbly request you to think again on your decision. Everyone from this
group is valuable for everyone.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Rashida Atthar
atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear members of eflorofindia,

 Today, a while back I have received a mail from Garg ji saying that in the
 best interest for mainting harmony on the group I withdraw from being a
 moderator of the group. I thought for a while as to what triggered this.
 Yesterday, I recieved a mail from Dr. Gurcharan ji asking me not to respond
 to Dr. Pankaj Kumar's mails till matters are sorted out. I was awaiting
 some  kind of resolution of  the matter. Now it has become very clear to be
 that the agenda of Dr.Pankaj Kumar to attack me constantly and ultimately
 get me out as a  moderator seems to be working,

  If this is the perception and action of the owner of this group ids
 asstated  than  I think I should no longer continue with the group at all. I
 joined the group on the invitation of Garg ji on 31st December 2008. I
 joined as a moderator on the invitation and approval of majority moderators
 on 8 May 2010.  I was looking forward and infact working on the family
 Euphorbiaceae that I had volunteered to coordinate next month. That will no
 longer happen from my end.

 I wish to thanks all the members and experts for the enriching inputs and
 exhange of taxonomy information so generously  all the time. All the very
 best for the group. Goodbye.

 regards,
 Rashida.



Re: [efloraofindia:62999] Herb for id from Ooty 170211MK1

2011-02-16 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Oenothera rosea


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:51 PM, hari lal taxo@gmail.com wrote:

 if nematodes present  to confirm onagraceae  because this is the
 family character
 hari shankar lal

 On 2/17/11, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Muthu ji,
  I think this one is Oenothera roseum ( Family: Onagraceae).
  regards
  Prashant
 
  On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Dear all,
  Please help to id this herb. Photographed on a private garden floor at
  Ooty, Nilgiris.
 
 *Date/Time-*
 
  24-01-2011 / 11:10 AM
 
  *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*
 
  ca.2200asl; Ooty, TN
 
  *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
 
  garden floor
 
  *Plant Habit-*
  herb
 
   *Height/Length-*
 
  30 cm long
 
  *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*
 
  ca.5 x 3 cm;
 
  *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
 
  single
 
  *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
 
  c. 2.5 cm across
 
  *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
 
   *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
 
 
  --
  Muthu Karthick, N
  Care Earth Trust
  #15, second main road,
  Thillai ganga nagar,
  Chennai - 600 061
  Mob: 0091 96268 33911
  www.careearthtrust.org
 
 
 



Re: [efloraofindia:63000] Tendu-Gasti Tree Combination

2011-02-16 Thread hari lal
NICE THANKS FOR SHARING SIR
HARI SHANKAR LAL

On 2/17/11, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Group Members,

Diospyros-Ficus tree combination is considered very important in
 Traditional Healing. Here is recently uploaded video.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h-52N7TXoIfeature=related

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia



[efloraofindia:63001] Let's know medicinal herbs from Pankaj Oudhia

2011-02-16 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Dear Group Members,

   This plus 32 minutes long film was prepared few years back within a day
without sincere editing but still it is informative. I have just uploaded it
in Youtube. (Please note the brand new Innova was hired one.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn5jnGaKI5Afeature=mfu_in_orderlist=UL


regards

Pankaj Oudhia