Re: [efloraofindia:113941] ORCHIDACEAE: Pomatocalpa angustifolium Seidenf. from Hong Kong (Thailand)
angustifolia and angustifolium both are mentioned in different sources. http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=935343-1 http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-163127 Check the distribution and may be very soon you will find more names in the list. Will send more interesting facts through personal mail. Thanks for sharing. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Pomatocalpa angustifolium Seidenf., Opera Bot. 95: 110 (1988). Family: Orchidaceae Distribution: Thailand, Vietnam Current pic is taken in KFBG, Hong Kong. Plant is collected from Thailand. Regards Pankaj https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6ElWnx8xIaI/T5D4BcBMphI/BIg/h1uk07tTx20/s1600/Slide1.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IyzRFRnlY04/T5D4Efe3uvI/BIs/mA8GatlKDNM/s1600/Slide2.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9m34QUVF0QY/T5D4Gte1yPI/BI4/fceTOKRBBk0/s1600/Slide3.JPG
Re: [efloraofindia:113942] Re: 19042012GS1 an orchid for ID from Bhageshwar in Uttaranchal Pradesh
Thanks a lot Pankaj ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Oh sorry, I didnt see this earlier. This is slightly pale but it should be Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. Regards Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:113943] ORCHIDACEAE: Pomatocalpa angustifolium Seidenf. from Hong Kong (Thailand)
I think I have discussed about gender issues before. This is angustifolium for sure, rest are wrong. In a common man's words, I am a BOY but I cant be boy on my own. I can be a boy if my DAD says so. I am a boy but if my dad says I am a girl then I will have to be a girl no matter what. If my dad says nothing but he assigns a girl name with me then I would be a girl. OTHERS have right to say if I am a boy or a girl or a middle person but not if I am very old (meaning not if the genus name was like assigned by Linne. Once my gender is assigned, then any species attached with me would automatically take my gender. Here I am a GENUS so any species epithet attached to me will take up my gender. DAD is the FIRST AUTHOR who described the GENUS. OTHERS are consecutive authors who may assign the gender. Hope this is understandible. Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:113944] Re: 19042012GS1 an orchid for ID from Bhageshwar in Uttaranchal Pradesh
I am posting my umbelaltum separately. Pankaj On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Oh sorry, I didnt see this earlier. This is slightly pale but it should be Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. Regards Pankaj -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. Conservation Officer Office: Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194
Re: [efloraofindia:113945] Re: Ficus for id - 11/04/12 - RK
Thank you for this input,Pankaj ji. Regards On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Mr Raman Your plant is definitely different. As Vijay pointed it could be Lauraceae or may be Sapotaceae, Pankaj On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:31:53 PM UTC+8, Parijat wrote: Ficus for ID - https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1iQoOy29Uq-**SAnPdr7W-wKC5ErUzo-** t4e0gDL6pXxk-4/edithttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1iQoOy29Uq-SAnPdr7W-wKC5ErUzo-t4e0gDL6pXxk-4/edit
[efloraofindia:113947] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni
Greetings from Vietnam, Yesterday I read this thread and enjoyed a lot. I am really very happy for you Pankaj! You are a real COMPLAN boy (;-p).badhta bachcha! :-) Thanks to Gurucharan sir too for providing constant support and encouragement to budding researchers. I learnt a lot from you sir! Thanks again. Regards, Ritesh.
[efloraofindia:113948] Re: Ficus for id - 11/04/12 - RK
Pankaj ji. I am 100% sure its the same tree. The location, holes in the trees and growth underneath, the shape of trees everything fits. If you look at more pictures here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43406542/Flora%20and%20Fauna/Trees%20of%20Bangalore/ZZFamily%20-%20ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree/ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree.html Raman
[efloraofindia:113949] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. from Hong Kong flower market!
Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 56 (1830). Synonyms: Cirrhopetalum umbellatum (Lindl.) Linden, Ill. Hort. 28: 80 (1881), nom. illeg. Phyllorkis umbellata (Lindl.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 675 (1891). Family: Orchidaceae Distribution: Taiwan, China, India, Nepal, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam Current pic was taken in Hong Kong. Plant was collected from one of the flower markets. Regards Pankaj https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-noRqrdKOjn0/T5EGK6LGHQI/BJE/U9Lv_Arg8Zw/s1600/Slide1.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JuB-IWr-4jc/T5EGPBeOYQI/BJQ/yaeXmCoyTZE/s1600/Slide2.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8JASUfXUVn8/T5EGTrl-F0I/BJc/T0q7a2HhMDA/s1600/Slide3.JPG
Re: [efloraofindia:113949] Re: Ficus for id - 11/04/12 - RK
This is the same tree alright Raman ji.Cannot mistake the trunk pitted bark:) TFS.. On 4/20/12, raman raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com wrote: Pankaj ji. I am 100% sure its the same tree. The location, holes in the trees and growth underneath, the shape of trees everything fits. If you look at more pictures here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/43406542/Flora%20and%20Fauna/Trees%20of%20Bangalore/ZZFamily%20-%20ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree/ZZ%20Unknown%20058%20Tree.html Raman
Re: [efloraofindia:113950] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. from Hong Kong flower market!
They are too good Pankaj ji Thanks for sharing. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 56 (1830). Synonyms: Cirrhopetalum umbellatum (Lindl.) Linden, Ill. Hort. 28: 80 (1881), nom. illeg. Phyllorkis umbellata (Lindl.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 675 (1891). Family: Orchidaceae Distribution: Taiwan, China, India, Nepal, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam Current pic was taken in Hong Kong. Plant was collected from one of the flower markets. Regards Pankaj https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-noRqrdKOjn0/T5EGK6LGHQI/BJE/U9Lv_Arg8Zw/s1600/Slide1.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JuB-IWr-4jc/T5EGPBeOYQI/BJQ/yaeXmCoyTZE/s1600/Slide2.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8JASUfXUVn8/T5EGTrl-F0I/BJc/T0q7a2HhMDA/s1600/Slide3.JPG
Re: [efloraofindia:113951] Request Tree ID 089 - Lalbagh, Bangalore - RA
Hi, Affirmative. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, raman raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com wrote: From: raman raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113919] Request Tree ID 089 - Lalbagh, Bangalore - RA To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Cc: raman raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 9:03 AM Thanks Neil ji Just wanted to confirm as I also have other set of images.
Fwd: Re: [efloraofindia:113952] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni
-- Forwarded message -- From: Vedprakash Singh vpsingh.nag...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:113924] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni To: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com I am not a very regular in the group BUT follow it closely for sake of gaining knowledge I completely agree with Dr. Satish Phadke Ji's statement w. re. to resp. Dr. Gurucharan Ji. Thank You and all the very best V P Singh On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com Date: Apr 20, 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113917] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni To: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com Pankaj Kumar ji: MATURE. A very good and apt term. Earlier we all knew your intelligence. Good to get the accolades from another very senior and mature person Gurcharan ji. I like the way Sir ji tries to extract the best from the members on this forum. It creats a very encouraging atmosphere. Best wishes. On Apr 20, 2012 8:59 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Shweta and Muthu. I am also a student and I learn from you all. Pankaj -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:113954] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni
Thanks a lot Sathish sir, Singh sir and Ritesh for your wonderful comments. Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:113954] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. from Hong Kong flower market!
Thanks a lot for appreciating Gurcharan sir. Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:113955] SOLANACEAE: Solandra maxima (Sessé Moc.) P.S. Green from Hong Kong.
Thanks a lot for your comments, Gurcharan sir and Oudhia sir. Pankaj
[efloraofindia:113957] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer from Hong Kong (from Thailand)
Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer, Orchis 1: 87 (1907). Synonyms: Cirrhopetalum wendlandianum Kraenzl., Gard. Chron. 1891(1): 612 (1891). Cirrhopetalum collettianum Collett Hemsl., J. Linn. Soc., Bot. 28: t. 20 (1890), orth. var. Cirrhopetalum collettii Hemsl., J. Linn. Soc., Bot. 28: 131 (1890). Phyllorkis collettii (Hemsl.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 677 (1891). Cirrhopetalum proliferum Rolfe, Kew Hand-List Orch.: 57 (1896). Family: Orchidaceae Distribution: Myanmar, Thailand. Present pic was taken at KFBG from among collections from Thailand. Regards Pankaj https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5xB6614b3LQ/T5Elw1QdGPI/BJo/h6aq92aQpGI/s1600/Slide1.JPG https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aXPG60NgF6s/T5El2BllQdI/BJ0/vGhnPpBggio/s1600/Slide2.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yzWdGZjYX0A/T5El6T4zgPI/BKA/c7mVLDD6u5Q/s1600/Slide3.JPG
Re: [efloraofindia:113959] Request Tree ID 089 - Lalbagh, Bangalore - RA
Thanks again Neil ji Raman
[efloraofindia:113960] Re: ID Assistance please
Post the foliage pictures for proper ID as remarked by Nidhan ji. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:45:22 AM UTC+5:30, ariban wrote: reattaching On 17 April 2012 11:43, Arijit Banerjee ari...@gmail.com wrote: An Asteraceae, but the exact binomial eludes me Kolkata, 17.04.2012. A road side/ pondside weed. Arijit Banerjee
[efloraofindia:113961] Re: Fabaceae - Mimosoideae- week Xylia xylocarpa from Coimbatore
Very nice uploads . Thanks for sharing . On Monday, January 2, 2012 9:22:12 AM UTC+5:30, B. Rathinasabapathy wrote: Sharing the images of *Xylia xylocarpa* from NBNP Coimbatore. Thanks B. Rathinasabapathy Project Co-ordinator Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park 1388, Avinashi Road Peelamedu Coimbatore-641004 http://mail.google.com/subscribe.mhtml
Re: [efloraofindia:113961] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer from Hong Kong (from Thailand)
Great pics Pankaj Ji, Very lovely indeed, artistic creation of mother nature...Thanks a lot for showing such extraordinary pics... -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227
[efloraofindia:113963] Re: Mimosaceae Tree for identification 190412MK03
*Acacia polyacantha * (syn. *A.suma*) There are four sup species. Check the characters and decide the sub sp. On Friday, April 20, 2012 12:17:54 AM UTC+5:30, Muthu Karthick, N wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this tree species. Is this Acacia sp.? I could not see the flowers. Leaves were of 12-15 cm longer (young leaves). The height of the tree was up to 10 metres and a girth of about 50cm. Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN Terrain: scrub and thorny forest Altitude: c. 410 M ASL* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fQyGB4EUW8ir-iROPW9UE61nTWVie1cQHKHgZWKKccA/edit Date: 15 Apr 2012** ** ** ** * * -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org
[efloraofindia:113964] Re: Mimosaceae Tree for Identification 190412MK02
Negative.Need more close up pictures of the flowers and leaves for ID On Friday, April 20, 2012 12:06:52 AM UTC+5:30, Muthu Karthick, N wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this tree species. Is this Acacia ferruginea? I could not see the flowers but only pods. Pods were of 10-12cm long and 3cm broader. Leaves were of 10-15 cm longer. Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN Terrain: scrub and thorny forest Altitude: c. 410 M ASL* Date: 15 Apr 2012** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org
[efloraofindia:113965] Re: Fabaceae-Mimosoideae (Mimosaceae) Week Acacia ferruginea from Coimbatore
Please see the photographs of A.ferruginea species ( banni mara in kannada) sent by me earlier (last month) for comparison.. On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:12:59 AM UTC+5:30, B. Rathinasabapathy wrote: Sharing the images of *Acacia ferruginea*from Anaikatti, Coimbatore. Again flower images is not documented. Thanks B. Rathinasabapathy Project Co-ordinator Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park 1388, Avinashi Road Peelamedu Coimbatore-641004 http://mail.google.com/subscribe.mhtml
Re: [efloraofindia:113965] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. from Hong Kong flower market!
Hi Pankaj Ji. This is awesome ... by the way how are you managing to attach such bigger images? Thanks Tanay On 20 April 2012 01:45, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot for appreciating Gurcharan sir. Pankaj -- *Tanay Bose* Research Teaching Assistant. Department of Botany. University of British Columbia . 6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) 604-822-2019 (Lab) 604-822-6089 (Fax) tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca *Webpages:* UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
[efloraofindia:113967] Re: ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. from Hong Kong flower market!
Thank you for your comments Tanay. I write directly on the group and use the insert link to put the image along with text. While doing you can actually maintain the original size of the image. Pankaj On Friday, April 20, 2012 2:47:08 PM UTC+8, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 56 (1830). Synonyms: Cirrhopetalum umbellatum (Lindl.) Linden, Ill. Hort. 28: 80 (1881), nom. illeg. Phyllorkis umbellata (Lindl.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 675 (1891). Family: Orchidaceae Distribution: Taiwan, China, India, Nepal, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam Current pic was taken in Hong Kong. Plant was collected from one of the flower markets. Regards Pankaj https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-noRqrdKOjn0/T5EGK6LGHQI/BJE/U9Lv_Arg8Zw/s1600/Slide1.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JuB-IWr-4jc/T5EGPBeOYQI/BJQ/yaeXmCoyTZE/s1600/Slide2.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8JASUfXUVn8/T5EGTrl-F0I/BJc/T0q7a2HhMDA/s1600/Slide3.JPG
Re: [efloraofindia:113967] Re: ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl. from Hong Kong flower market!
Very beautiful picture. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you for your comments Tanay. I write directly on the group and use the insert link to put the image along with text. While doing you can actually maintain the original size of the image. Pankaj On Friday, April 20, 2012 2:47:08 PM UTC+8, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: Bulbophyllum umbellatum Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 56 (1830). Synonyms: Cirrhopetalum umbellatum (Lindl.) Linden, Ill. Hort. 28: 80 (1881), nom. illeg. Phyllorkis umbellata (Lindl.) Kuntze, Revis. Gen. Pl. 2: 675 (1891). Family: Orchidaceae Distribution: Taiwan, China, India, Nepal, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam Current pic was taken in Hong Kong. Plant was collected from one of the flower markets. Regards Pankaj https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-noRqrdKOjn0/T5EGK6LGHQI/BJE/U9Lv_Arg8Zw/s1600/Slide1.JPG https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JuB-IWr-4jc/T5EGPBeOYQI/BJQ/yaeXmCoyTZE/s1600/Slide2.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8JASUfXUVn8/T5EGTrl-F0I/BJc/T0q7a2HhMDA/s1600/Slide3.JPG -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org
Re: [efloraofindia:113968] Re: Mimosaceae Tree for Identification 190412MK02
Locally they this as 'Parambai' Tamil name: பறம்பை On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote: Negative.Need more close up pictures of the flowers and leaves for ID On Friday, April 20, 2012 12:06:52 AM UTC+5:30, Muthu Karthick, N wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this tree species. Is this Acacia ferruginea? I could not see the flowers but only pods. Pods were of 10-12cm long and 3cm broader. Leaves were of 10-15 cm longer. Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN Terrain: scrub and thorny forest Altitude: c. 410 M ASL* Date: 15 Apr 2012** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org
Re: [efloraofindia:113969] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni
Dear friends, I missed a lots of interactions in the group during last few weeks mainly due to short of time. Sorry about that. Last week I was in the ICSB conference here in Oxford, USA. I fully agree with Gurcharan ji's honoring of Pankaj Kumar. I don't think it is about personal. Appropriate behavior in a mixed public forum like eFI is essential in maintaining a decorum and cordial atmosphere in the group. The title most matured person in the group explains the evolution of a particular member's attitude in the group (not in personal life, as we have not seen many members and do not know all personally). We can not forget the 'shock treatments' received by Pankaj in the beginning and fortunately he used them positively as stepping stones and thus he has now reached great heights and got this title. This is really a great achievement, Pankaj! Congrats. There is a proverb in Tamil. The paddy stands rigid and straight when there is nothing inside, but it bows and bends its head (panicle) when it develops stuff (grain) inside. Maturity is measured by simplicity and forgiveness and not by anything else, if I am right. Thanks regards Vijay --- Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks a lot Sathish sir, Singh sir and Ritesh for your wonderful comments. Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:113970] Re: Capparaceae for identification 200412MK03
Capparis divaricata, I think. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: *Adding more pictures of the same plant in different location. Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN Altitude: 460 M ASL Date: 14 Apr 2012* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Akcb9VVhMs6eB3OqQ7rn6mssADIzyfnv1DpQTwqcI70/edit ** ** ** ** ** * * On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this capparaceae member. Could this be any Capparis sp.? Leaf size: 6 x 1.5cm* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KC3TcbFeCY6G5lGQnbXiMXFyPkc6fRJaaJ2tQEE0poo/edit ** ** ** ** -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org
[efloraofindia:113972] Book Chapter
Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg
Re: [efloraofindia:113972] wild herb ID from Hooghly 20-04-12 SK-1
Thank you Sir for the info. I have heard that *Parthenium* also came from America. Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: North American weed now spread in many parts of the world. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:37 AM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: (You are) Great Sir thank you very much. One more question, please, is it native or comes from North America? Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: I hope Gamochaeta pensylvanica, the connate pappus is clearly seen -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Re: [efloraofindia:113973] Euphorbia for identification 190412MK01
Euphorbia nivulia. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this cactus like plant. Place: Danishpettai RF, Salem dist., TN Altitude: 423 M asl Date: 12 April 2012 The leaves were withered off and I didn’t noticed any flowers or fruits. The maximum height I saw was of c.5 metres and a girth of 40 cm.* https://docs.google.com/document/d/13CTmfE1xo95r_0vz4kJNORNWztD787JSWy8NQzSTrN4/edit?pli=1 ** ** ** ** ** -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org
Re: [efloraofindia:113974] Ficus sp. ID from Hooghly 20-04-12 SK-3
Thank you Sir for this info on *Gmelina* *arborea* fruits. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Affirmative. The fruit are eaten by tribals but have not seen the local villagers doing the same. With regards, Neil Soares.
Re: [efloraofindia:113975] Book Chapter
Congratulations, dear Giby! Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg
[efloraofindia:113976] Welcome to efloraofindia
Dear Jacob Sir, Welcome to our group. It is great to have a person like you in the group. We hope to see pictures with information of plants from Central Kerala. Thanks and Regards, Giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
Re: [efloraofindia:113977] seedpod : Oxalis sp. from Hooghly
Sir, I observed the phenomenon of exploding dehiscent fruits in other plants like DOPATI (failing to remember the scientific name) and in some Acanthaceae members, but not this one. Will give it a try. Thank you Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Have you observed the interesting phenonmenon of mature seed pods? When you touch the seedpod it explodes spreading the seeds to far away distance.a mechanism of seed pispersal. On Apr 20, 2012 7:23 AM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning Sir Thank you very much. Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, nice photographs Surajit ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Re: [efloraofindia:113978] seedpod : Oxalis sp. from Hooghly
Thank you Sir, that *Impatiens* seems to be my DOPATI ! Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Satish ji More so in Impatiens (Balsam), later they burst of their own (autochory). -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Have you observed the interesting phenonmenon of mature seed pods? When you touch the seedpod it explodes spreading the seeds to far away distance.a mechanism of seed pispersal. On Apr 20, 2012 7:23 AM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning Sir Thank you very much. Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, nice photographs Surajit ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Re: [efloraofindia:113979] Book Chapter
Many Many Congrts Giby Ji On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations, dear Giby! Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:113981] Rubus paniculatus from Chakoudi, Uttaranchal Pradesh
Wonderful shots. New plant to me. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote: Very nice sir, The plants from Uttrakhand started pouring in..hope to see a huge lot -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:113982] Book Chapter
Hearty congratulations Gibyji. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Many Many Congrts Giby Ji On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations, dear Giby! Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org
Re: [efloraofindia:113983] Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam Sanctuary, JK (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
Can't see any pictures On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Some how the photographs are not displayed always to confirm, even from website. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: I hope Magnolia liliiflora It is Dachhigam Sanctuary Adavanne ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:39 PM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) adava...@gmail.com wrote: [image: Document] I've shared Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam Sanctuary, JKhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA7Fi-yAixPHOxDK-DCUwTiZjXQuz7HpX50rKnG467I/edit Click to open: - Id request 19042012 ASP 02 Dichgam Sanctuary, JKhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA7Fi-yAixPHOxDK-DCUwTiZjXQuz7HpX50rKnG467I/edit Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, spreadsheets and presentations. [image: Logo for Google Docs] https://docs.google.com -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:113984] Re: Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni
I too agree with Gurcharan ji on declaring Pankaj as most matured person in the group. I never met him but yet I have such a passion and respect towards him. I started hearing about Pankaj as an Orchid specialist. Now I know he is much more than that. He deserve much more for his dedication, I think. Hats off to you dear brother, Pankaj for creating enthusiasm, knowledge and passion on flowers in all of us. Dear Vijay, Thanks for a very meaningful proverb The paddy stands rigid and straight when there is nothing inside, but it bows and bends its head (panicle) when it develops stuff (grain) inside. Thanks and Regards Giby On 20 April 2012 20:41, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, I missed a lots of interactions in the group during last few weeks mainly due to short of time. Sorry about that. Last week I was in the ICSB conference here in Oxford, USA. I fully agree with Gurcharan ji's honoring of Pankaj Kumar. I don't think it is about personal. Appropriate behavior in a mixed public forum like eFI is essential in maintaining a decorum and cordial atmosphere in the group. The title most matured person in the group explains the evolution of a particular member's attitude in the group (not in personal life, as we have not seen many members and do not know all personally). We can not forget the 'shock treatments' received by Pankaj in the beginning and fortunately he used them positively as stepping stones and thus he has now reached great heights and got this title. This is really a great achievement, Pankaj! Congrats. There is a proverb in Tamil. The paddy stands rigid and straight when there is nothing inside, but it bows and bends its head (panicle) when it develops stuff (grain) inside. Maturity is measured by simplicity and forgiveness and not by anything else, if I am right. Thanks regards Vijay --- Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks a lot Sathish sir, Singh sir and Ritesh for your wonderful comments. Pankaj -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 +919947109987 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
Re: [efloraofindia:113985] Rubus paniculatus from Chakoudi, Uttaranchal Pradesh
Gurcharanji: very nice, new lens is wonderful... New for me too! I was wondering, is this rubus flower with almost rudimentary small white petals? USha di = On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful shots. New plant to me. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote: Very nice sir, The plants from Uttrakhand started pouring in..hope to see a huge lot -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Usha di ===
Re: [efloraofindia:113986] Re: Mimosaceae for identification 200412MK01
Possibly* Albizia amara* On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: * Dear all, Please help me to identify this tree with globose inflorescence. Place: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN Altitude: 430 M ASL Terrain: Thorny Scrub forest; on the foothills of Eastern Ghats * On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this tree with globose inflorescence. Place: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN Altitude: 430 M ASL Terrain: Thorny Scrub forest; on the foothills of Eastern Ghats* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VxwSn6WH1C_rxE1ahan2AsPGXPVSONSTrpx7Nhv0VLY/edit ** ** ** ** ** -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:113987] Strychnos nux-vomica (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
Beautiful shots Prashant. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Prashant Awale (Google Docs) pkaw...@gmail.com wrote: [image: Document] I've shared Strychnos nux-vomica https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q_Ix4vHYlyfyhBz4BRm-MRANrxGhfErk7ZGOwuwgRrc/edit Click to open: - Strychnos nux-vomica https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q_Ix4vHYlyfyhBz4BRm-MRANrxGhfErk7ZGOwuwgRrc/edit Dear Friends, Sharing few photographs of Strychnos nux-vomica. Family: Loganiaceae. Location: Sagar Upwan, Colaba, Mumbai. Date/Time: 14-04-2012 / 07:20AM. Regards Prashant Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, spreadsheets and presentations. [image: Logo for Google Docs] https://docs.google.com -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:113988] Request Identification
Dear all, I am very happy to find this group on net. My main objective to learn more than to tell something new. I have been trying to identify this shrub for a long while. It used to be in abundance near my native place at Manegaon, Dist: Buldhana http://g.co/maps/a9zw5, Maharashtra. I have not seen this plant somewhere else. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kTYK1akIV88/T5GHeGcMI4I/BHI/A-oEv3yfW7U/s1600/Identify1.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qu1r5tGc_k8/T5GHVluFtAI/BG0/KlhP78OB1as/s1600/Closeup.jpg This plant does not have leaves. It is all sticks. The photos are taken in flowering season, May 2011. The fruits are berry-like and contain many seeds. I've heard people make pickle of the fruits, but never seen someone actually making it (local people don't make pickle). Fruits turn pinkish after ripening. The taste somewhat tikha plus sweet. Can someone identify this? Is any additional information needed?
Re: [efloraofindia:113989] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:113990] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
@ Vijay: good to know Thanks Usha di == On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Usha di ===
Re: [efloraofindia:113991] Strychnos nux-vomica (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
Yes, very nice Usha di On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful shots Prashant. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Prashant Awale (Google Docs) pkaw...@gmail.com wrote: [image: Document] I've shared Strychnos nux-vomica https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q_Ix4vHYlyfyhBz4BRm-MRANrxGhfErk7ZGOwuwgRrc/edit Click to open: - Strychnos nux-vomica https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q_Ix4vHYlyfyhBz4BRm-MRANrxGhfErk7ZGOwuwgRrc/edit Dear Friends, Sharing few photographs of Strychnos nux-vomica. Family: Loganiaceae. Location: Sagar Upwan, Colaba, Mumbai. Date/Time: 14-04-2012 / 07:20AM. Regards Prashant Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, spreadsheets and presentations. [image: Logo for Google Docs] https://docs.google.com -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Usha di ===
Re: [efloraofindia:113992] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer from Hong Kong (from Thailand)
Amazing flowers. First thought was.unimaginable!. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote: Great pics Pankaj Ji, Very lovely indeed, artistic creation of mother nature...Thanks a lot for showing such extraordinary pics... -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:113993] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 01 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
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Re: [efloraofindia:113994] Re: Mimosaceae Tree for identification 190412MK03
Acacia suma. Now included into ?A.ferruginea. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote: *Acacia polyacantha * (syn. *A.suma*) There are four sup species. Check the characters and decide the sub sp. On Friday, April 20, 2012 12:17:54 AM UTC+5:30, Muthu Karthick, N wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this tree species. Is this Acacia sp.? I could not see the flowers. Leaves were of 12-15 cm longer (young leaves). The height of the tree was up to 10 metres and a girth of about 50cm. Location: Bommiampatty RF; Salem dist., TN Terrain: scrub and thorny forest Altitude: c. 410 M ASL* https://docs.google.com/**document/d/1fQyGB4EUW8ir-** iROPW9UE61nTWVie1cQHKHgZWKKccA**/edithttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1fQyGB4EUW8ir-iROPW9UE61nTWVie1cQHKHgZWKKccA/edit Date: 15 Apr 2012** ** ** ** * * -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:113995] seedpod : Oxalis sp. from Hooghly
Yes Surajit... Impatiens in particular the garden balsam called *Impatiens balsamina is our DOPATI... *usha di * === * On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Sir, that *Impatiens* seems to be my DOPATI ! Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes Satish ji More so in Impatiens (Balsam), later they burst of their own (autochory). -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Have you observed the interesting phenonmenon of mature seed pods? When you touch the seedpod it explodes spreading the seeds to far away distance.a mechanism of seed pispersal. On Apr 20, 2012 7:23 AM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning Sir Thank you very much. Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, nice photographs Surajit ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Usha di ===
Re: [efloraofindia:113996] Euphorbia for identification 190412MK01
Very unique stem! On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Euphorbia nivulia. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: *Dear all, Please help me to identify this cactus like plant. Place: Danishpettai RF, Salem dist., TN Altitude: 423 M asl Date: 12 April 2012 The leaves were withered off and I didn’t noticed any flowers or fruits. The maximum height I saw was of c.5 metres and a girth of 40 cm.* https://docs.google.com/document/d/13CTmfE1xo95r_0vz4kJNORNWztD787JSWy8NQzSTrN4/edit?pli=1 ** ** ** ** ** -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:113997] Request Identification
Welcome Ganesh ji, to eFI group! The plant looks like Capparis decidua http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capparis_decidua Thanks for the description and other information. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ganesh Dhamodkar ganesh.dhamod...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am very happy to find this group on net. My main objective to learn more than to tell something new. I have been trying to identify this shrub for a long while. It used to be in abundance near my native place at Manegaon, Dist: Buldhana http://g.co/maps/a9zw5, Maharashtra. I have not seen this plant somewhere else. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kTYK1akIV88/T5GHeGcMI4I/BHI/A-oEv3yfW7U/s1600/Identify1.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qu1r5tGc_k8/T5GHVluFtAI/BG0/KlhP78OB1as/s1600/Closeup.jpg This plant does not have leaves. It is all sticks. The photos are taken in flowering season, May 2011. The fruits are berry-like and contain many seeds. I've heard people make pickle of the fruits, but never seen someone actually making it (local people don't make pickle). Fruits turn pinkish after ripening. The taste somewhat tikha plus sweet. Can someone identify this? Is any additional information needed?
Re: [efloraofindia:113999] Book Chapter
Congrats Giby ji On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: Hearty congratulations Gibyji. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.comwrote: Many Many Congrts Giby Ji On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Congratulations, dear Giby! Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth Trust #15, second main road, Thillai ganga nagar, Chennai - 600 061 Mob: 0091 96268 33911 www.careearthtrust.org -- Dr Satish Phadke
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Re: [efloraofindia:114001] ORCHIDACEAE: Bulbophyllum wendlandianum (Kraenzl.) Dammer from Hong Kong (from Thailand)
Nice photo(shop) ! ;) Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Amazing flowers. First thought was.unimaginable!. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote: Great pics Pankaj Ji, Very lovely indeed, artistic creation of mother nature...Thanks a lot for showing such extraordinary pics... -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- Dr Satish Phadke
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Re: [efloraofindia:114003] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Welcome back Vijayashankar ji. Missed you a lot. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:114004] Request Identification
This is *Capparis decidua/Capparis aphylla.* As the name suggests you will not find leaves. Local Marathi name : Nepti BTW May I request you not to use the simple subject line Request Identification Instead please use line like Plant for ID 20/04/2012 GD1 etc which is your initials and date. With common subject line the threads get mixed up. (Posting guidelines) Moderator On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Ganesh Dhamodkar ganesh.dhamod...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am very happy to find this group on net. My main objective to learn more than to tell something new. I have been trying to identify this shrub for a long while. It used to be in abundance near my native place at Manegaon, Dist: Buldhana http://g.co/maps/a9zw5, Maharashtra. I have not seen this plant somewhere else. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kTYK1akIV88/T5GHeGcMI4I/BHI/A-oEv3yfW7U/s1600/Identify1.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qu1r5tGc_k8/T5GHVluFtAI/BG0/KlhP78OB1as/s1600/Closeup.jpg This plant does not have leaves. It is all sticks. The photos are taken in flowering season, May 2011. The fruits are berry-like and contain many seeds. I've heard people make pickle of the fruits, but never seen someone actually making it (local people don't make pickle). Fruits turn pinkish after ripening. The taste somewhat tikha plus sweet. Can someone identify this? Is any additional information needed? -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:114005] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Sir, I would love to try to capture those glands. But it will be very difficult for the *T. bellirica*, for i found this one in a place which doesn't fall into my roaming area (i went there recently for a special training session). Surely would keep a close watch on *T. arjuna* *T. chebula*. Yet, i will try to revisit the BAHERA whenever i get some break. Thank you Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:114006] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 04 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
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Re: [efloraofindia:114007] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Recently I heard from someone that the glands are there as swollen petiole rather than the conventional glands seen in other Terminalia species. Thanks for the info though. Needs to dig further :( On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:114008] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
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Re: [efloraofindia:114009] Book Chapter
Congratulations Giby... have you shared pictures of these mistletoes of India? Is anybody looking at their medicinal properties? Usha di On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg -- Usha di ===
Re: [efloraofindia:114010] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But it raises my curiosity more...! Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:114011] seedpod : Oxalis sp. from Hooghly
Yes, Madam, our DOPATI Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:46 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Surajit... Impatiens in particular the garden balsam called *Impatiens balsamina is our DOPATI... *usha di * === * On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:17 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Sir, that *Impatiens* seems to be my DOPATI ! Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes Satish ji More so in Impatiens (Balsam), later they burst of their own (autochory). -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Have you observed the interesting phenonmenon of mature seed pods? When you touch the seedpod it explodes spreading the seeds to far away distance.a mechanism of seed pispersal. On Apr 20, 2012 7:23 AM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Good morning Sir Thank you very much. Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, nice photographs Surajit ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Usha di ===
Re: [efloraofindia:114012] Book Chapter
Congrats. Hoping that you have covered its medicinal utilization aspect as Traditional Healers use in their Herbal Formulations. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg
Re: [efloraofindia:114013] Book Chapter
Congrats Giby ji Tanay On 20 April 2012 09:34, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats. Hoping that you have covered its medicinal utilization aspect as Traditional Healers use in their Herbal Formulations. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg -- *Tanay Bose* Research Teaching Assistant. Department of Botany. University of British Columbia . 6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) 604-822-2019 (Lab) 604-822-6089 (Fax) tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca *Webpages:* UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
Re: [efloraofindia:114014] Book Chapter
Congrats Giby ji for this publication. Wishing you many more such achievements. Coincidentally we shot the common mistletoe Viscum album on our this trip to Nainital and Almora. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Congrats. Hoping that you have covered its medicinal utilization aspect as Traditional Healers use in their Herbal Formulations. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FYY4fapl_QI/T5F_yRbjiSI/A98/MVdG92KylB8/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_1.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-OnLuKvUjA/T5F_1o-PErI/A-I/TYjWMZhlJck/s1600/FinalCanopybook+contents_Page_2.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KtHqANUcDuY/T5F_o-KSJGI/A9w/h3WtNHyy60Y/s1600/FinalCanopybook+cover+page.jpg
Re: [efloraofindia:114015] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
It started an interesting brain storming Isn't it. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:114016] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
Dear friends, Sub: Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05 Here are photos of flowering plant from Srinagar, J K photographed during third week of March. Requesting id. Regards A.Shivaprakash
[efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
Sir, I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz! Species : Likely to be *Ficus* *infectoria* Roxb. Habit Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting *Phoenix* sp. Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m. Place : Hooghly, WB https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T4fyna5MKC0/T5GW85JQCPI/DuU/HcqsrpjMbMg/s1600/DSCN2314.jpg (the trunk in the centre is of *Anona* *reticulata*, *NOT* *Ficus*) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KfbYfk-WXrA/T5GW8kL6eeI/DuU/XCF1VTCbg_A/s1600/DSCN2316.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KEKPnq3IIUo/T5GW-xdPDtI/DuU/JxJoLJs-0C4/s1600/DSCN2319.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rLPOBdxAxe4/T5GXANhpWVI/DuU/yLF-iQ3AH4o/s1600/DSCN2320.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W9fcXk6zFaM/T5GXAqlWBOI/DuU/bVnj84JUNRU/s1600/DSCN2323.jpg *two months ago...* https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VyHixclfpWk/T5GXC9q8vmI/DuU/eslfXN521-4/s1600/DSCN8205.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JZJCBd3smbE/T5GXDq-mrwI/DuU/HyRRHwMfDY4/s1600/VSCN8222.jpg Thank you Regards, Surajit Koley
Re: [efloraofindia:114018] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 03 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
This is 'daffodil', Narcissus sp. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Narcissus_pseudonarcissus_%28daffodills%29_-_1.jpg Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:22 AM, shivaprakash adavanne (Google Docs) adava...@gmail.com wrote: [image: Document] I've shared Requesting id 20042012 ASP 03https://docs.google.com/document/d/137rnzg4uN6rqNpP9Q87AwJ5pJ5N-KY9NfCdhXJHb-ng/edit Click to open: - Requesting id 20042012 ASP 03https://docs.google.com/document/d/137rnzg4uN6rqNpP9Q87AwJ5pJ5N-KY9NfCdhXJHb-ng/edit Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, spreadsheets and presentations. [image: Logo for Google Docs] https://docs.google.com
Re: [efloraofindia:114019] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Hi, Please check this link : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com Cc: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting T. bellirica :) But it raises my curiosity more...! Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of Terminalia bellirica as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is T. bellirica as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601 . Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of T. belerica are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:114021] Re: The Spiranthes Connection!!
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nQMFL5UPzvY/T5GdWsHNEPI/BKY/CxYtacBs29g/s1600/072611_529.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-srNCVDRA43s/T5Gdd4zYVTI/BKg/p6ECdLQysSY/s1600/072611_531.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nQMFL5UPzvY/T5GdWsHNEPI/BKY/CxYtacBs29g/s1600/072611_529.jpg Hi Pankaj ji, A Spiranthes Sinensis from Kalatope... you're right it is hairy... and as Giby ji asked... what are the other differences... Thanks for sharing... regards Alok On Thursday, 19 April 2012 14:20:16 UTC+5:30, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote: Just wanted to share. This, Spiranthes issue was raised by Sid and his PhD supervisor here at HK and very interestingly, just few days before meeting Prof. Sun and discussing with Sid, the plant flowered here in our green house. I asked Dr. Stephan Gale (my colleague and author of Wild Orchids of Hong Kong) whats the difference and he said sinensis is glabrous and hongkongensis is hairy. So all these created some big doubts in my head as I knew very well that Indian ones are not glabrous at all. Lets hope to come to some conclusion soon. My preliminary doubts say that S. australis should be accepted name with hongkongensis as one of the synonyms, but Prof. Sun says they all are different. Pankaj -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. Conservation Officer Office: Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194
Re: [efloraofindia:114022] Trees in Summer #1 of 15 | Alangium salviifolium
On the bund at the Vedanthangal Bird Sanctuary near Chennai, the trees are tall, over 30 feet at least. About a month ago, they were full of fllowers and fruit. Villagers told us that the fruit , which were green then, were edible when purple and ripe. Rgds, Padmini Raghavan.
Re: [efloraofindia:114022] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
Hi, This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling the Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees' With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:59 PM Sir, I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz! Species : Likely to be Ficus infectoria Roxb. Habit Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting Phoenix sp. Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m. Place : Hooghly, WB (the trunk in the centre is of Anona reticulata, NOT Ficus) two months ago... Thank you Regards, Surajit Koley
Re: [efloraofindia:114023] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
I beg your pardon, Sir, do you mean those rusty dots on the blades are glands? Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, Please check this link : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com*wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com Cc: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But it raises my curiosity more...! Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com * wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group.
Re: [efloraofindia:114024] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05
Hi, This could be a species of Hypoxis. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, shivaprakash adavanne adava...@gmail.com wrote: From: shivaprakash adavanne adava...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:114016] Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:38 PM Dear friends, Sub: Requesting id 20042012 ASP 05 Here are photos of flowering plant from Srinagar, J K photographed during third week of March. Requesting id. Regards A.Shivaprakash
Re: [efloraofindia:114026] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Hi, That's what I was given to understand though I found no mention of it in any reference books. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:13 PM I beg your pardon, Sir, do you mean those rusty dots on the blades are glands? Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Please check this link : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com Cc: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting T. bellirica :) But it raises my curiosity more...! Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of Terminalia bellirica as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is T. bellirica as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601 . Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of T. belerica are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re:
[efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
I've shared an item with you: Terminalia bellirica page from FPB https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this document, just click the link above.
Re: [efloraofindia:114028] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
That's fair enough Dr. Vijayasankar, but please take another look at the photograph. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) vijay.botan...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com) To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:21 PM I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from FPB Click to open: Terminalia bellirica page from FPB Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of Bombay_Vol. 1 (line 8 in the description para). Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, spreadsheets and presentations.
Re: [efloraofindia:114029] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Thanks Dr. Neil. So far I have not seen glands in T. bellirica, so, I would be happy to see them. Even though I could not see the glands clearly in the picture, I believe in your own observation. However, Cooke in his Flora of Bombay Presidency has mentioned that this species has no glands (I am sharing the scanned image of the particular page, may be in a separate mail). The dots on the leaf are not glands, I think. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, Please check this link : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com*wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com Cc: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But it raises my curiosity more...! Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com * wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My
Re: [efloraofindia:114030] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
Thank you Sir for the info... an interesting short discussion here - http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/ Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling the Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees' With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com*wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:59 PM Sir, I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz! Species : Likely to be *Ficus* *infectoria* Roxb. Habit Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting *Phoenix* sp. Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m. Place : Hooghly, WB https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T4fyna5MKC0/T5GW85JQCPI/DuU/HcqsrpjMbMg/s1600/DSCN2314.jpg (the trunk in the centre is of *Anona* *reticulata*, *NOT* *Ficus*) https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KfbYfk-WXrA/T5GW8kL6eeI/DuU/XCF1VTCbg_A/s1600/DSCN2316.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KEKPnq3IIUo/T5GW-xdPDtI/DuU/JxJoLJs-0C4/s1600/DSCN2319.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rLPOBdxAxe4/T5GXANhpWVI/DuU/yLF-iQ3AH4o/s1600/DSCN2320.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W9fcXk6zFaM/T5GXAqlWBOI/DuU/bVnj84JUNRU/s1600/DSCN2323.jpg *two months ago...* https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VyHixclfpWk/T5GXC9q8vmI/DuU/eslfXN521-4/s1600/DSCN8205.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JZJCBd3smbE/T5GXDq-mrwI/DuU/HyRRHwMfDY4/s1600/VSCN8222.jpg Thank you Regards, Surajit Koley
Re: [efloraofindia:114031] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
Hi, Am reproducing here some of my previous correspondence on this : 25th July 2008 Hi, Most Fig trees belong to a group called Primary Hemiepiphytes. A Parasite taps into the vascular system of the host plant for water and nutrients. An Epiphyte only takes support on the host tree while drawing water and nutrients from wherever they can get them. A Hemiepiphyte, by definition, switches survival strategy over its lifetime. A Primary Hemiepiphyte such as a Fig tree begins life as a canopy epiphyte. After a few years having accumulated sufficient reserves, it sends a root abruptly down to earth. Once a connection has been established the plant can now reach a huge size by sending down more roots. In ‘Strangler Figs’ the roots remain plastered against the trunk of the host tree and may coalesce to form a cramped basket around the trunk ultimately crushing it to death. The tree corpse then rots and falls away and the strangler then continues to grow as a regular tree. In Secondary Hemiepiphytes such as Philodendrons and Monstera- they start at ground level as vines and then work their way up into the canopy. Eventually the vine’s terrestrial roots become superfluous and its stem dies at the tree base and the plant continues its life as an epiphyte. With regards, Neil Soares. April 2008. Hi Mr Garg, Sibdas and Dr. Barve, In the tropical rain forests, strangler figs start their lives as epiphytes in the canopy approximately 200 feet above the ground. [Our specimens in the Indian sub-continent are dwarfed by their tropical counterparts.] Once it has established itself it sends a root abruptly down to earth. Soon more roots are sent down the trunk of the support tree, plastered against its trunk. In extreme forms of stranglers the roots coalesce to form a cramped basket around the tree trunk. Then as the tree attempts to grow they crush it to death. The strangler also affects the support tree by overshadowing it with its dense foliage thereby interfering with its photosynthesis and competing with its roots for nutrients and water. The strangler fig impedes expansion of the tree which is absolutely necessary for the trees survival as in the trunk new vessels must periodically replace dying ones. If rings of vessels cannot be added by increasing trunk girth, nutrients and water cease to flow. This is why strangler figs seldom kill palm trees as palms have thick, hard barks and do not need to grow in diameter to replace their vessels. The Pipal tree seems especially malicious. Starting as an epiphyte, it drives roots into the host, literally tearing it apart. The tree corpse, cradled in the arms of its slayer then rots and falls away. At my farm at Shahapur [near Bombay], I have an old Banyan tree that started life as a strangler as evidenced by the void left behind where the supporting tree once stood. [Have not been able to establish the identity of the original tree though]. Am sending a few photographs as attachments. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:26 PM Thank you Sir for the info... an interesting short discussion here - http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/ Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling the Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees' With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:59 PM Sir, I have exhausted my daily quota that's why this quiz! Species : Likely to be Ficus infectoria Roxb. Habit Habitat : tree, wild, cohabiting Phoenix sp. Date : 20-04-12, 3.40 p.m. 14-02-12, 4.20 p.m. Place : Hooghly, WB (the trunk in the centre is of Anona reticulata, NOT Ficus) two months ago... Thank you Regards, Surajit Koley
Re: [efloraofindia:114032] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Okay Sir, i will try to check if my tree also features those. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, That's what I was given to understand though I found no mention of it in any reference books. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com*wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:13 PM I beg your pardon, Sir, do you mean those rusty dots on the blades are glands? Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Please check this link : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFs7Q33sU18KquK2YLkGesQdIR15hes2qnlxNM3jqys/edit With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113980] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com Cc: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pankajoud...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 10:02 PM Thank you Sir... you have saved me from revisiting *T. bellirica* :) But it raises my curiosity more...! Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th
Re: [efloraofindia:114033] Book Chapter
Brilliant Dr. Giby. How does one buy a copy of this book ? With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 4/20/12, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: From: Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:113972] Book Chapter To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 9:00 PM Dear All, I am very glad to share with you a good news that the canopy research work that I have done in Kalakkad Mundanthurai Tiger Reserve, Tamil Nadu has been published as a chapter entitled Mistletoes in the Wet Forest Canopies: Friends or Foes (Giby Kuriakose, R. Ganesan and M. Soubadra Devi) in Forest Canopies of South Asia-a glimpse edited by M Soubadra Devi, T. Ganesh and Amrita Tripathy (2012) published by ATREE, Bangalore. It is not a highly technical research publication. Please find attached herewith the cover page and contents of the book. I thank all of you for the constant support that encourages me a lot for such productive works. Thanks and regards, Giby
Re: [efloraofindia:114034] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Glands absent. Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil Soares. -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:114035] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly
Thank you very much Sir, i have read a part of it at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Strangler$20Fig$20trees/indiantreepix/bXrwZNB1jEM/P-f0afyJ6KQJ. I understabd that it is an epiphyte. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, Am reproducing here some of my previous correspondence on this : 25th July 2008 ** ** Hi, Most Fig trees belong to a group called Primary Hemiepiphytes. A Parasite taps into the vascular system of the host plant for water and nutrients. An Epiphyte only takes support on the host tree while drawing water and nutrients from wherever they can get them. A Hemiepiphyte, by definition, switches survival strategy over its lifetime. A Primary Hemiepiphyte such as a Fig tree begins life as a canopy epiphyte. After a few years having accumulated sufficient reserves, it sends a root abruptly down to earth. Once a connection has been established the plant can now reach a huge size by sending down more roots. In ‘Strangler Figs’ the roots remain plastered against the trunk of the host tree and may coalesce to form a cramped basket around the trunk ultimately crushing it to death. The tree corpse then rots and falls away and the strangler then continues to grow as a regular tree. In Secondary Hemiepiphytes such as Philodendrons and Monstera- they start at ground level as vines and then work their way up into the canopy. Eventually the vine’s terrestrial roots become superfluous and its stem dies at the tree base and the plant continues its life as an epiphyte. With regards, Neil Soares. ** April 2008.* *** ** ** Hi Mr Garg, Sibdas and Dr. Barve, In the tropical rain forests, strangler figs start their lives as epiphytes in the canopy approximately 200 feet above the ground. [Our specimens in the Indian sub-continent are dwarfed by their tropical counterparts.] Once it has established itself it sends a root abruptly down to earth. Soon more roots are sent down the trunk of the support tree, plastered against its trunk. In extreme forms of stranglers the roots coalesce to form a cramped basket around the tree trunk. Then as the tree attempts to grow they crush it to death. The strangler also affects the support tree by overshadowing it with its dense foliage thereby interfering with its photosynthesis and competing with its roots for nutrients and water. The strangler fig impedes expansion of the tree which is absolutely necessary for the trees survival as in the trunk new vessels must periodically replace dying ones. If rings of vessels cannot be added by increasing trunk girth, nutrients and water cease to flow. This is why strangler figs seldom kill palm trees as palms have thick, hard barks and do not need to grow in diameter to replace their vessels. The Pipal tree seems especially malicious. Starting as an epiphyte, it drives roots into the host, literally tearing it apart. The tree corpse, cradled in the arms of its slayer then rots and falls away.** ** At my farm at Shahapur [near Bombay], I have an old Banyan tree that started life as a strangler as evidenced by the void left behind where the supporting tree once stood. [Have not been able to establish the identity of the original tree though]. Am sending a few photographs as attachments. With regards, Neil Soares. ** --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com*wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:26 PM Thank you Sir for the info... an interesting short discussion here - http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/57823/ Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is possibly Ficus rumphii and it is not cohabiting but strangling the Wild Date Palm tree. Please refer to my mails on 'Strangler Fig trees' With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:114018] Quiz : which Ficus is this? from Hooghly To:
Re: [efloraofindia:114036] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Sir, It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure - the post wins :) Thank you very much. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Glands absent. Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html. Have a nice day Sir Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This looks like Beheda [Terminalia bellirica]. With regards, Neil
Re: [efloraofindia:114037] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)
Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves. http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70399 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70392 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70414 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: That's fair enough Dr. Vijayasankar, but please take another look at the photograph. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Fri, 4/20/12, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) vijay.botan...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) vijay.botan...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:114027] Terminalia bellirica page from FPB ( indiantreepix@googlegroups.com) To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 20, 2012, 11:21 PM [image: Document] I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from FPBhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit Click to open: - Terminalia bellirica page from FPBhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of Bombay_Vol. 1 (line 8 in the description para). Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, spreadsheets and presentations. [image: Logo for Google Docs] https://docs.google.com/
Re: [efloraofindia:114038] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves. http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70399 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70392 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70414 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Sir, It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure - the post wins :) Thank you very much. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Glands absent. Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM Good morning Sir and thank you. But the leaf stalk is much longer in my post than this description Leaves are 8-20 cm long, 7.5-15 cm wide, on stalks 2.15 cm long at
Re: [efloraofindia:114039] wild herb ID from Hooghly 20-04-12 SK-1
Dear Surajit ji, For Parthenium please visit International Parthenium Research News Group at http://www.pankajoudhia.com/iprng/ You can also join IPRNG Yahoo group at in.groups.yahoo.com/group/*IPRNG*/ regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:05 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Sir for the info. I have heard that *Parthenium* also came from America. Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: North American weed now spread in many parts of the world. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:37 AM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: (You are) Great Sir thank you very much. One more question, please, is it native or comes from North America? Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: I hope Gamochaeta pensylvanica, the connate pappus is clearly seen -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Re: [efloraofindia:114040] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70392 is superb. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves. http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70399 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70392 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70414 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Sir, It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure - the post wins :) Thank you very much. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Glands absent. Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 8:33 AM
Re: [efloraofindia:114041] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2
Some more pictures of Bahera leaves during rainy season. http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=104274 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=104275 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:59 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful shots Sir, all of them, this one http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70392 is superb. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Some pictures with close view of Bahera with new red leaves. http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70399 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70392 http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=70414 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Sir, It's getting more and more complicated... but one thing is for sure - the post wins :) Thank you very much. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Glands absent. Flora of Madhya Pradesh by BSI confirms the quote of Vijayashankar ji. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: Pl don't worry Satish ji. Surajit ji can't do that :) beacuse T. bellirica is perhaps the only species (in India at least) that do not have foliar glands. Sorry to disappoint you :) However, the posted pictures are of *Terminalia bellirica* as identified by Dr. Neil. We have observed variations in the size and shape of leaves as well as fruits in this species. Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Surajit ji May I request you one thing. Try to capture the glands at the base of mature leaf. I am sure you will do that. Unfortunately I don't have good photograph of these. I recently learnt that every Terminalia has unique gland structure. Why not have good photographs of each? This request is even to other members. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:15 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Neil Sir Pankaj Sir, Good evening... I am now convinced that the plant/tree is *T. bellirica* as have been identified by you. Initially i was hesitant because - 1) because of the description of 2.15 cm long leaf-stalk as in - http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Baheda.html 2) in my images all leaves originate from the apex of the shoot, whereas your imges at - http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 and at - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Terminalia$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/3xFtSa7jWFo/rq4suJX2k-IJ show alternate leaves. Most other images available in the net also tally with both of you. However, after more search found my target at - http://ayurvedaelements.com/resources/spice/Terminalia%20belerica.png?timestamp=1266630963601. Moreover, wiki says, Two varieties of *T. belerica* are found in India... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_bellirica. Thank you very much for giving me your valuable time and identifying this tree. I cannot express my gratitude in terms of words only. Regards, Surajit On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Nice photograph Dr. Oudhia. To view my photograph please type ' Terminalia bellirica Neil Soares' in the Mail Search box above and check my mail dated 15th April 2011. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com*wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113771] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 12:04 PM My picture of Baheda (Terminalia bellirica) for comparison http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20p?see=I_PAO1999res=640 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Have many of these trees on my property at Shahpur. Please also check my photographs of this which are in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 4/19/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com * wrote: From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113745] roadside tree ID from Hooghly 19-04-12 SK-2 To: Neil Soares
Re: [efloraofindia:114042] wild herb ID from Hooghly 20-04-12 SK-1
Thank you Sir, for the link, it's a very informative document. Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Surajit ji, For Parthenium please visit International Parthenium Research News Group at http://www.pankajoudhia.com/iprng/ You can also join IPRNG Yahoo group at in.groups.yahoo.com/group/*IPRNG*/ regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:05 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Sir for the info. I have heard that *Parthenium* also came from America. Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: North American weed now spread in many parts of the world. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:37 AM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote: (You are) Great Sir thank you very much. One more question, please, is it native or comes from North America? Regards, Surajit On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: I hope Gamochaeta pensylvanica, the connate pappus is clearly seen -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
