[efloraofindia:263009] Re: Sh. Tapas Chakrabarty- 1st Runner up Star Expert of Jan.'17

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

It is a pleasure to share my limited knowledge in this forum as I feel that
this will become a standard repository for future workers to identify an
Indian plant with accuracy.
Regards and thanks.

On Feb 1, 2017 12:35, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:

Dear members,
Dr. Tapas Chakrabarty, is an expert on Indian Euphorbiaceae &
Phyllanthaceae along with numerous genera in other families along with
being one of the Pillars of eFi.
Tapas ji helped a lot in correct Identifications along with providing
critical inputs through 66 messages.
Thanks, Tapas ji for your valuable contributions.
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[efloraofindia:263008] Re: 2nd Runner up Interactive Person of Jan., 2017: Aarti S Khale

[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,
Thanks a lot.
Aarti

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:11 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Dear members,
> Aarti S Khale ji is the 2nd Runner up Interactive Person of the
> last month with 59 messages. He is also one of the Pillars of efi.
> She made some good uploads from India & tried for their identifications
> along with helping in Ids.
> Thanks, Aarti ji for keeping the momentum going.
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> 
>
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> .
>
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>
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>
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> India'.
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[efloraofindia:263005] Dr. Nidhan Singh- 2nd Runner up Star Expert of Jan.'17

[J.M. Garg]

Dear members,
Dr. Nidhan Singh is the 2nd Runner up Star Expert of previous month with 50
messages mostly dealing with the identifications. He is also one of the
Pillars of eFi and the 4th most prolific poster in efi so far.
He has been helping us a lot in identifications with his expertise.
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[efloraofindia:263004] 2nd Runner up Interactive Person of Jan., 2017: Aarti S Khale

[J.M. Garg]

Dear members,
Aarti S Khale ji is the 2nd Runner up Interactive Person of the last month
with 59 messages. He is also one of the Pillars of efi.
She made some good uploads from India & tried for their identifications
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[efloraofindia:263003] Sh. Tapas Chakrabarty- 1st Runner up Star Expert of Jan.'17

[J.M. Garg]

Dear members,
Dr. Tapas Chakrabarty, is an expert on Indian Euphorbiaceae &
Phyllanthaceae along with numerous genera in other families along with
being one of the Pillars of eFi.
Tapas ji helped a lot in correct Identifications along with providing
critical inputs through 66 messages.
Thanks, Tapas ji for your valuable contributions.
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[efloraofindia:263002] 1st Runner up Interactive Person of Jan., 2017: Dinesh Valke

[J.M. Garg]

Dear members,
Dinesh Valke ji is the 1st Runner up Interactive Person of the last month
with 95 messages.
He has no parallels. He founded efloraofindia site & gifted it to us. He
always had a great vision & pioneered so many new ideas on efi or elsewhere.
He has taken aim of getting names of plants in vernacular languages as well
as in their own scripts & he has been tenaciously working in that direction
for as long as he has been with efi, if not more.
The result of his efforts is always seen in efi, though at a slow pace as
it is a very time consuming work. Messages in this month by him are related
to this work along with a lot of postings and identification help to others.
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[efloraofindia:263001] Sh. Chris Chadwell- Star Expert of Jan.'17

[J.M. Garg]

Dear members,
Sh. Chris Chadwell is the Star Expert of previous month with 237 messages
mostly dealing with the identifications.
He is the Expert contributor about Ladakh & Himalayan plants.
His web-site (http://www.shpa.org.uk/) introduces some of his activities
including a serious interest in Ladakh flora over a period of 36 years.
Indeed it is fair to say he has devoted my life to the study of Himalayan
flora, particularly in what I would describe as the borderlands of Western
Tibet.
He is making a worthwhile contribution to our site for species from Ladakh,
the Western Himalaya in general and the other parts of the Himalaya to a
lesser extent - which will compliment the existing expertise of those who
post and make suggestions identification-wise. His familiarity with the
flora lies primarily in mountain plants.
I thank Chadwell ji for your wonderful contributions to efloraofindia.
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[efloraofindia:263000] Most Interactive Person of Jan., 2017: Saroj Kumar Kasaju

[J.M. Garg]

Dear members,
Saroj Kumar Kasaju is the Most Interactive Person of last month having
scored a triple century (318 messages) with his beautiful uploads &
interactions. His postings were mainly from Nepal (areas still deficient in
efi) including many new additions to efi. Quality of his uploads is
also wonderful showing almost all aspects of a plant along with nice
photography. He has a great knowledge as far as flora of Nepal is concerned.
He continued to mesmerise us this month also like the last few months since
July'16, for which he has been consistently becoming Most Interactive
Person every month.
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[efloraofindia:262999] Re: Jan'17- Most Active Posters

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Garg Ji.
Aarti

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:29 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Most Active Posters in Jan.'17 are given below:
>
> me (1207)
> Saroj Kumar Kasaju (318)
> [image: Inline images 5]
> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com (237)
> Dinesh Valke (95)
> [image: Inline images 1]
> tchakrab (66)
> [image: Inline images 2]
> Aarti S. Khale (59)
> [image: Inline images 3]
> Nidhan Singh (50)
> [image: Inline images 4]
> Anil Thakur (40)
> [image: Inline images 6]
> Alka Khare (37)
> Dr Pankaj Kumar (28)
>
> I have taken this position about two days back on 30.1.17.
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> 
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
> .
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>  (largest in the
> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
> website  (with a species
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>
> The whole world uses my Image Resource
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> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
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> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>
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> India'.
>

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[efloraofindia:262998] Re: Jan'17- Most Active Posters

[Saroj Kasaju]

Thank you Mr.Garg and the members  for the contineous support, guidance and
encouragement !

Saroj Kasaju

On 1 Feb 2017 12:15, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:

> Thanks to you all for the good work.
>
> On 1 February 2017 at 11:59, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Most Active Posters in Jan.'17 are given below:
>>
>> me (1207)
>> Saroj Kumar Kasaju (318)
>> [image: Inline images 5]
>> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com (237)
>> Dinesh Valke (95)
>> [image: Inline images 1]
>> tchakrab (66)
>> [image: Inline images 2]
>> Aarti S. Khale (59)
>> [image: Inline images 3]
>> Nidhan Singh (50)
>> [image: Inline images 4]
>> Anil Thakur (40)
>> [image: Inline images 6]
>> Alka Khare (37)
>> Dr Pankaj Kumar (28)
>>
>> I have taken this position about two days back on 30.1.17.
>> --
>> With regards,
>> J.M.Garg
>>
>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
>> 
>>
>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
>> .
>>
>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
>> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>>  (largest in the
>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
>> website  (with a species
>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>>
>> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>>  of more than a
>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>>
>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
>> India'.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> 
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
> .
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
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>
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> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>
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> India'.
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[efloraofindia:262997] Re: Jan'17- Most Active Posters

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks to you all for the good work.

On 1 February 2017 at 11:59, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Most Active Posters in Jan.'17 are given below:
>
> me (1207)
> Saroj Kumar Kasaju (318)
> [image: Inline images 5]
> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com (237)
> Dinesh Valke (95)
> [image: Inline images 1]
> tchakrab (66)
> [image: Inline images 2]
> Aarti S. Khale (59)
> [image: Inline images 3]
> Nidhan Singh (50)
> [image: Inline images 4]
> Anil Thakur (40)
> [image: Inline images 6]
> Alka Khare (37)
> Dr Pankaj Kumar (28)
>
> I have taken this position about two days back on 30.1.17.
> --
> With regards,
> J.M.Garg
>
> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'
> 
>
> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia
> .
>
> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora,
> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group
>  (largest in the
> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia
> website  (with a species
> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images).
>
> The whole world uses my Image Resource
>  of more than a
> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc.
> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as
> per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
>
> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of
> India'.
>



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[efloraofindia:262996] Jan'17- Most Active Posters

[J.M. Garg]

Most Active Posters in Jan.'17 are given below:

me (1207)
Saroj Kumar Kasaju (318)
[image: Inline images 5]
chrischadwell...@btinternet.com (237)
Dinesh Valke (95)
[image: Inline images 1]
tchakrab (66)
[image: Inline images 2]
Aarti S. Khale (59)
[image: Inline images 3]
Nidhan Singh (50)
[image: Inline images 4]
Anil Thakur (40)
[image: Inline images 6]
Alka Khare (37)
Dr Pankaj Kumar (28)

I have taken this position about two days back on 30.1.17.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262995] Dombeya For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-23

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks for the correction Ajinkya Ji.
Regards,
Aarti

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:00 AM, ajinkya gadave 
wrote:

> sorry for  wrong name this is
> *Dombeya burgessiae not  **Dombeya wallichii*
>
> On 31 January 2017 at 20:01, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks,  Ajinkya ji
>>
>> On 31 Jan 2017 7:25 p.m., "ajinkya gadave" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Dombeya wallichii*
>>>
>>> On 31 January 2017 at 19:20, Aarti S. Khale 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dombeya seen in Lalbagh earlier this month.
 For Species id please.
 Aarti

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Re: [efloraofindia:262994] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial Sanctuary :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV

[Dinesh Valke]

Thanks very much Garg ji for resurfacing this query.
Many thanks to Krishnaraj ji and Shantanu ji for the ID.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:01 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Shantanu ji.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Shantanu Chavan
> Date: 1 February 2017 at 09:17
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:233159] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial
> Sanctuary :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
> Alysicarpus ovalifolius
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:14 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Samir Mehta 
>> Date: 9 October 2015 at 18:44
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:233159] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial
>> Sanctuary :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV
>> To: efloraofindia 
>> Cc:
>>
>> Dinesh ji,
>>
>> I agree with Radha, this is A. monilifer.
>> Fruits are not as inflated as the ones in my collection / in some
>> populations, a variation seen in this species?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Samir
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 21, 2013 at 2:14:02 PM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>>>
>>> efi page on Alysicarpus monilifer
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 October 2013 14:13, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

 Some earlier relevant feedback:

 Can it be Alysicarpus monilifer?
 regards
 Radha




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 From: Dinesh Valke 
 Date: 29 September 2013 11:50
 Subject: [efloraofindia:166564] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial
 Sanctuary :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV
 To: efloraofindia 



 [image: Raneh Falls on River Ken (aka Karnavati) in Ken Gharial
 Sanctuary]
 
 Ken Gharial Sanctuary ... about 500 - 1800 ft asl
 *Date / Time*: 15 SEP 13 at 11:24 AM ... *Altitude*: about 610 ft asl
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 ¿ *Alysicarpus* ? ... (family: Fabaceae)
 Dear friends, would like to know if this plant is *Alysicarpus* ...
 the only two photos (practically one) and the aspects seen may not help
 reach ID to species level. The tiny flower is just about 4 mm (including
 its tiny stalk). The pods: about 15 mm x 2 mm.
 [image: ¿ Alysicarpus sp. ?]
 


 [image: ¿ Alysicarpus sp. ?]
 
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Re: [efloraofindia:262993] Dombeya For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-23

[ajinkya gadave]

sorry for  wrong name this is
*Dombeya burgessiae not  **Dombeya wallichii*

On 31 January 2017 at 20:01, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks,  Ajinkya ji
>
> On 31 Jan 2017 7:25 p.m., "ajinkya gadave" 
> wrote:
>
>> *Dombeya wallichii*
>>
>> On 31 January 2017 at 19:20, Aarti S. Khale 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dombeya seen in Lalbagh earlier this month.
>>> For Species id please.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262992] Re: ID request 31012017PC1

[ajinkya gadave]

yes this is
*Eriobotrya japonica*

*Loquat.very testy *

On 1 February 2017 at 11:15, Aarti S. Khale  wrote:

> Just a guess...
> Could be Eriobotrya japonica, commonly known as Loquat.
> Aarti
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:34:52 PM UTC+4, P. Chitralekha wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>> Kindly identify this plant growing in Delhi. It is a short tree and is
>> flowering now.
>> Thank you,
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[efloraofindia:262992] Re: ID request 31012017PC1

[Aarti S. Khale]

Just a guess...
Could be Eriobotrya japonica, commonly known as Loquat.
Aarti 

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> Dear friends,
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[efloraofindia:262990] Fwd: [Tamilbirds] HC forms 5 teams to monitor weeding out of invasive tree species

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding pl.

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HC forms 5 teams to monitor weeding out of invasive tree species

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HC forms 5 teams to monitor weeding out of invasive tree...

Initiates contempt proceedings against Ramanathapuram Collector for
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Re: [efloraofindia:262990] Manilkara zapota : Variegated Leaves : Flower Show,Mumbai : AK-25

[Aarti S. Khale]

Sandhya Ji,
Thanks.
I too was seeing the variegated leaves for the first time.
Flower Show in Mumbai is an interesting place where you find many new 
things.
Regards,
Aarti

On Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 7:14:32 AM UTC+4, harithasandhya wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting. Never seen Manikara zapota with variegated leaves.
>>
>
> Thanks Aarti ji for the post. 
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Re: [efloraofindia:262988] Identification of Impatiens sp

[J.M. Garg]

Welcome, Dipankar ji.
You missed the attachments.


On 1 February 2017 at 08:59, dipankar borah 
wrote:

> Impatiens sp?
> Koloriang,Kurung Kumey.
> 27.8.16
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:262987] Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week : ID plz_RKC_02_111111

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Shantanu ji.


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Date: 1 February 2017 at 09:18
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:114623] Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week
: ID plz_RKC_02_11
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Alysicarpus vaginalis

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:08 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> To me it appears closer to images of *Alysicarpus scariosus* (Spreng.)
> Thwaites
> 
> Pl. confirm or otherwise pl.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Gurcharan Singh 
> Date: 25 April 2012 at 16:39
> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:114623] Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae)
> Week : ID plz_RKC_02_11
> To: efloraofindia , Ritesh Choudhary <
> ritesh@gmail.com>, Nayan Singh 
>
>
> Resurfacing again for ID confirmation
>
> Earlier feedback
>
> Nayan ji.Please check for 
> *Alysicarpus
> monilifer*
>
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> Subject: [efloraofindia:93627] Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week :
> ID plz_RKC_02_11
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> ID plz..
>
> Loc.: Middle Andaman, India
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> Date: 18th Dec. 2009
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>
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[efloraofindia:262986] Fwd: Alysicarpus monolifer- Some plants from Jim Corbett National Park

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Shantanu ji.


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From: Shantanu Chavan
Date: 1 February 2017 at 09:18
Subject: Re: Alysicarpus monolifer- Some plants from Jim Corbett National
Park
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Alysicarpus sanjappae

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:10 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> To me it appears closer to images of *Alysicarpus sanjappae* Shantanu
> Chavan, M. M. Sardesai, D. S. Pokle
> 
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Devendra Bhardwaj 
> Date: 22 April 2012 at 13:20
> Subject: [efloraofindia:114218] Some plants from Jim Corbett National Park
> To: "indiantreepix@googlegroups.com" 
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>
> After a long gap I posted some photos from Jim Corbett National park.
> With Regard
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:262985] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial Sanctuary :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Shantanu ji.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Shantanu Chavan
Date: 1 February 2017 at 09:17
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:233159] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial
Sanctuary :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV
To: "J.M. Garg" 


Alysicarpus ovalifolius

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:14 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Samir Mehta 
> Date: 9 October 2015 at 18:44
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:233159] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial
> Sanctuary :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV
> To: efloraofindia 
> Cc:
>
> Dinesh ji,
>
> I agree with Radha, this is A. monilifer.
> Fruits are not as inflated as the ones in my collection / in some
> populations, a variation seen in this species?
>
> Regards,
>
> Samir
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2013 at 2:14:02 PM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
>>
>> efi page on Alysicarpus monilifer
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 21 October 2013 14:13, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> Can it be Alysicarpus monilifer?
>>> regards
>>> Radha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Dinesh Valke 
>>> Date: 29 September 2013 11:50
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:166564] ¿ Alysicarpus ? at Ken Gharial Sanctuary
>>> :: 15 SEP 13 :: DV
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Raneh Falls on River Ken (aka Karnavati) in Ken Gharial
>>> Sanctuary]
>>> 
>>> Ken Gharial Sanctuary ... about 500 - 1800 ft asl
>>> *Date / Time*: 15 SEP 13 at 11:24 AM ... *Altitude*: about 610 ft asl
>>> --
>>> ¿ *Alysicarpus* ? ... (family: Fabaceae)
>>> Dear friends, would like to know if this plant is *Alysicarpus* ... the
>>> only two photos (practically one) and the aspects seen may not help reach
>>> ID to species level. The tiny flower is just about 4 mm (including its tiny
>>> stalk). The pods: about 15 mm x 2 mm.
>>> [image: ¿ Alysicarpus sp. ?]
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ¿ Alysicarpus sp. ?]
>>> 
>>> Regards.
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:262984] Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week : Shrubs/Herbs : Alycicarpus species for ID 13/11/2011 SMP8

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Shantanu ji.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Shantanu Chavan
Date: 1 February 2017 at 09:15
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:94351] Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week
: Shrubs/Herbs : Alycicarpus species for ID 13/11/2011 SMP8
To: "J.M. Garg" 


This is Alysicarpus tetragolobus

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:34 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
> Looks different from other images at *Alysicarpus longifolius* (Spreng.)
> Wight & Arn.
> 
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Satish Phadke 
> Date: 13 November 2011 at 12:59
> Subject: [efloraofindia:94351] Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week :
> Shrubs/Herbs : Alycicarpus species for ID 13/11/2011 SMP8
> To: indiantreepix 
>
>
> A small herb 8-12 inches.
> Pictures of flowers and pods attached.
> ID Please. Can it be *Alysicarpus longifolius?*
>
> --
> Dr Satish Phadke
>
>
>
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[efloraofindia:262983] Fwd: [efloraindia:94608] Re: Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week: Alysicarpus bupleurifolius

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Shantanu ji.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Shantanu Chavan
Date: 1 February 2017 at 09:13
Subject: Re: [efloraindia:94608] Re: Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae)
Week: Alysicarpus bupleurifolius
To: "J.M. Garg" 


These are the images of Alysicarpus ovalifolius.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 1:10 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> To me it appears close to images at *Alysicarpus ovalifolius* (Schum.)
> Leonard
> 
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Balkar Singh 
> Date: 14 November 2011 at 06:05
> Subject: [efloraindia:94608] Re: Fabaceae-Faboideae (Papilionaceae) Week:
> Alysicarpus bupleurifolius
> To: indiantreepix 
>
>
> Dear All
>
> Alysicarpus bupleurifolius from Panipat
> pls validate Thanks
>
>
>
> --
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>
> Dr Balkar Singh
> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
> Arya P G College, Panipat
> Haryana-132103
> 09416262964
>
>
>
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[efloraofindia:262982] Fwd: Meconopsis aculeata in H.P.

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji,


-- Forwarded message --
From: C CHADWELL 
Date: 1 February 2017 at 02:45
Subject: Meconopsis aculeata in H.P.
To: "J.M. Garg" 


I attach an image taken as a slide on the Rohtang Pass back in 1989 which
shows good detail of the stamens and stigma.  Shall post habit and habitat
shots
of this another time - grew on a mossy boulder.

I have quite a number of images of the 'West Himalayan Blue-Poppy' from
Kashmir, Ladakh and H.P. incl. a good set from the Sach Pass, which I plan
to post
at some point.

I am surprised at the confusion with M.horridula, as this species has not
been
recorded NW of Nepal.


Best Wishes,


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[efloraofindia:262980] Identification of Impatiens sp

[dipankar borah]

Impatiens sp?
Koloriang,Kurung Kumey.
27.8.16

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[efloraofindia:262978] Fwd: One cannot always identify a plant beyond genus from photos alone

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Chadwell ji.

-- Forwarded message --
From: C CHADWELL 
Date: 31 January 2017 at 23:42
Subject: One cannot always identify a plant beyond genus from photos alone
To: "J.M. Garg" 


I have just posted about a Cotoneaster specimen thought to be C.microphyllus
posted by Saroj from Nepal.  I explained that he MUST wait until I have
sent these
images to J.Fryer for determination.  I am still (AS ANTICIPATED) waiting
to hear
from her as to comments about the images of other Cotoneasters I sent by CD.

*It is REALLY IMPORTANT for members to accept, however frustrating it is,
that*
*AT TIMES it is NOT possible to RELIABLY identify (i.e. DETERMINE) a plant
from*
*the photos sent.  There can be a number of reasons for this.*

*In such circumstances the ONLY correct course of action is to thus put
Cotoneaster*
*sp., or Elaeagnus sp. or Clematis sp.*

*IF those attempting to identify said plants are CONFIDENT it is "Close to"
or "Similar to",*
*there MIGHT be justification in putting AFF. and naming the species.*

*It is UNWISE and UNHELPFUL to SPECULATE (GUESS) TOO MUCH.  MANY reading
these*
*speculations, especially if SUGGESTED by a 'senior' person will ASSUME
this is the actual*
*species.  This CONTRIBUTES to confusion and muddles, as such guesses are
OFTEN incorrect.*

*Sorry but I still have LOTS of the eFI data-base to go through (or come
back to), so further*
*UNCERTAINTIES and CORRECTIONS are INEVITABLE*

*I repeat that IT IS NOT ALWAYS possible to NEATLY identify a plant to
SPECIES level.  This is*
*NOT a sign of INCOMPETENCE on my part (or that of others) but  realisation
of the complexities*
*of the variation involved.*

*There is in the UK (and it seems in India) a MISTAKEN belief that PLANT
IDENTIFICATION is quick*
*and easy with each plant READILY "PIGEON-HOLED" into a species.*

Oh, if ONLY things were that SIMPLE and QUICK!

And on occasion, one cannot even tell for sure which GENUS, even FAMILY, it
belongs to.

PREMATURE/HASTY naming leads to FREQUENT MISIDENTIFICATIONS.


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


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UK

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Re: [efloraofindia:262974] Manilkara zapota : Variegated Leaves : Flower Show,Mumbai : AK-25

['harithasandhya' via efloraofindia]

Interesting. Never seen Manikara zapota with variegated leaves.
>

Thanks Aarti ji for the post. 
 
   Regards,
Sandhya 

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[efloraofindia:262972] Re: Plant photography - a different approach Part 1 - the camera is the LEAST important consideration

[C CHADWELL]

Fair enough about 'alpine' and 'high altitude' but MUCH of what I have to say 
applies at lower elevationsas well. 

Best Wishes,

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  From: D.S Rawat 
 To: efloraofindia  
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
 Sent: Monday, 30 January 2017, 5:35
 Subject: Re: Plant photography - a different approach Part 1 - the camera is 
the LEAST important consideration
   
Nice advisory to the researchers working in subalpine and alpine zones. It is 
often said that weather is not bad, the clothing makes it bad or good in 
mountains.
While going through this I remembered one of my friend who because of his bad 
protection gear nearly escaped snow blindness. Work in high altitude is only 
possible when one is ready for all situations of weather. AND field works in 
high altitudes are often less and restricted to summers only; one has to 
utilize each and every opportunity which may be denied in lack of proper 
clothing.

DSRawat Pantnagar 

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:31:04 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.

-- Forwarded message --
From: C CHADWELL 
Date: 29 January 2017 at 01:24
Subject: Plant photography - a different approach Part 1 - the camera is the 
LEAST important consideration
To: "J.M. Garg" 


I have hesitated to comment much for the whole of the group, knowing that what 
I shall be saying islikely to come as a surprise, perhaps a shock. It is not 
easy to find the correct words to challengeconventional wisdoms, conventions or 
behaviour.
May I repeat my offer to provide INDIVIDUAL advice, communicated in private, 
with any members wishingto improve their plant photography.  The solutions are 
there but will not be "quick & easy". I ask a lot ofquestions and my 'students' 
(no matter what age or seniority) will need to exhibit effort & dedication, 
over notjust days but months and years. If that has not been a deterrent, you 
are most welcome to contact me individually,allowing advice IN PRIVATE.
Returning to advice which would apply in almost all cases, I shall begin with 
what I actually by THE CAMERABEING THE LEAST IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.  Yes, one 
needs a camera of a certain standard but THESE DAYS the quality of lenses in 
even modest COMPACT cameras are of a REMARKABLE standard.  With application 
andsome skill, EXCELLENT results can be achieved.  One does NOT need a LARGE, 
expensive, top-of-the-range camera.Indeed, for many such cameras are MUCH MORE 
TROUBLE THAN THEY ARE WORTH and I would advise AGAINSTpurchasing one!
However, what matters MOST is NOT your camera but SAFETY and COMFORT.  One 
needs appropriate FOOTWEAR and CLOTHINGto be able to spend the DAY 
photographing plants.  This is particularly important for those venturing into 
the HILLSand MOUNTAINS. Though the principal applies anywhere in the 
countryside.
See the attached image taken by my eldest son several years ago in the UK (I 
use a smaller camera now) attired in waterproofs,walking boots, woolly hat and 
fingerless woolly gloves with my rucksack on my back, glasses on a cord round 
my neck.I felt warm enough and comfortable.  The waterproofs meant I would not 
have to RETREAT if there was any heavy rainfor part of the day.  I was on a 
slope on a hill amongst chalk grassland which is rich in flowers.
On my visits to Indian sub-continent, I spend the vast majority of my time 
wearing WALKING BOOTS!!  This applies not just when I am trekking (camping) in 
the mountains or days out exploring e.g. from Gulmarg up to Khelanmarg 
orAphawat; from Narkanda to Huttoo in H.P., above the Rohtang Pass, also in 
H.P. or on Phulchoki mountain aboveGodawari, Nepal.  Also when walking around 
Srinagar, Manali, Shimla or Kathmandu.
They provide ankle-support whilst the soles grip the surface better.   This 
reduces slips and ankle twists -either of which have the potential to ruin not 
just a day out but WEEKS of potential BOTANIZING.
TRAINERS (or similar footwear) do NOT provide good ankle-support and often 
their soles grip poorly.  How UN-FASHIONABLEI AM but I could not care less!
I also use a walking stick.  I started this in the 1980s (when I was still in 
my twenties - young, fit and strong) andremember buying one that served me well 
for years when leading a botanical tour in Pakistan in 1987.  Morerecently, I 
have used strong folding walking-sticks (which can be stored in my small day 
ruck-sack when notrequired).
In addition to helping me avoid falls on SLIPPERY ground (the rocks and steps 
at lower levels can be especiallyslippery), the stick helps me negotiate 
steeper ground than I otherwise could AND can enable me to reach lowerbranches 
of trees/tall shrubs/climbers, enabling me to take close-ups of their flowers 
or fruits.
This brings me to other clothing.  Having water-proof CAGOULES (jackets) 

[efloraofindia:262971] Re: Child in Manali looking at Flowers of the Himalaya

[C CHADWELL]

Yes, Polunin & Stainton deserve considerable credit as do the others who 
contributed their photos:
Sir Barclay Bart, Len Beer, Dr C. Grey-Wilson, A.B.C. Harrison, A.Huxley, 
R.Lanacster, D J McCosh, D.Sayers,G.Smith, L.H.J. Williams (who participated, 
like Bill Sykes in 1950s expeditions to Nepal with Polunin & Stainton). 
But one must not forget Ann Farrer for the line-drawings/botanical 
illustrations - an aspect of guides oftenforgotten.
I was approached a few years back about the possibility of preparing and 
co-authoring a popular guide to WestHimalayan Flowers.  I IMMEDIATELY raised 
MAJOR problems.
As there is no up-to-date flora of the NW Himalaya and the floras which have 
been published are unreliable, it isIMPOSSIBLE to arrive at a SATISFACTORY 
summary.
The guides to flowers in Europe or parts of the US are based upon RELIABLE 
floras - which must come first.
I am not prepared to work on/complete a poor-quality publication.
There is also the OBSTACLE of devoting YEARS of effort to a publication and 
paying for its publication with a highstandard of printing and colour.
Flowers of the Himalaya was PUBLISHED in India with the colour reproduction 
REASONABLE.   The colour reproductionin almost all botanical books in India 
since then has been POOR to DREADFUL.
I don't understand why such INFERIOR standards are accepted.   EVERYONE who 
buys them should DEMAND a refund.
How can 'Flowers of the Himalaya' back in 1983 be of a reasonable standard yet 
since then other printers in India producesuch poor work.
It should NOT be acceptable.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: D.S Rawat 
 To: efloraofindia  
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
 Sent: Monday, 30 January 2017, 5:16
 Subject: Re: Child in Manali looking at Flowers of the Himalaya
   
This book and its supplement has been used as the most important guide to the 
flowers of the Western Himalaya. We still do not have any standard alternative 
to it even after three decades.   
My salutations to Oleg Polunin, Adam Stainton and their team for this marvelous 
piece of work.

DSRawat Pantnagar 
On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:38:17 AM UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.Light moment for a change.

-- Forwarded message --
From: C CHADWELL 
Date: 29 January 2017 at 09:58
Subject: Child in Manali looking at Flowers of the Himalaya
To: "J.M. Garg" 


During one of the two botanical tours I led to H.P. in the mid-1980s,I walked 
up to Old Manali from the guest-house my group were staying inwith the doctor 
on the tour and took this slide.
I had a copy of 'Flowers of the Himalaya' with me which I showed to thelocal 
children who had gathered.  They were able to recognise some of theirlocal 
plants in the pictures.
The older boy holding the book had a baby brother on his back - who clearlywas 
NOT impressed with illustrations of Himalayan flora!! 

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk






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[efloraofindia:262970] Re: Codonopsis in the borderlands of Tibet Part II - Look out for Codonopsis obtusa

[C CHADWELL]

This may well be the case but it is clear to me that some of the images of a 
Codonopsis takenin Baltistan represent a separate taxon.  
Whether this constitutes a variety or subspecies of C.clematidea or a separate 
species, is forothers to decide.
I wonder if they have this photographic evidence to-hand (cf. just dried 
pressed specimens). 
Need MORE evidence.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
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  From: J.M. Garg 
 To: efloraofindia  
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
 Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2016, 16:09
 Subject: Re: Codonopsis in the borderlands of Tibet Part II - Look out for 
Codonopsis obtusa
   
Thanks, Chadwell ji, for interesting insights though both WCSP & Catalogue of 
Life consider Codonopsis obtusa (Chipp) Nannf. as a synonym for Codonopsis 
clematidea (Schrenk) C.B.Clarke
On 15 December 2016 at 08:10, J.M. Garg  wrote:

Thanks,  Chadwell ji-- Forwarded message --
From: "C CHADWELL" 
Date: 15 Dec 2016 12:27 am
Subject: Codonopsis in the borderlands of Tibet Part II - Look out for 
Codonopsis obtusa
To: "J.M. Garg" 
Cc: 

I draw attention to this and other preceding images and a following of what 
Iconsider to be Codonopsis obtusa taken in Baltistan:
http://photos.v-d-brink.eu/Flo ra-and-Fauna/Asia/Pakistan-new /i-zrxFG8n
Marijin's close-ups of the interior of the corolla are invaluable in helping 
separatethis species from Codonopsis clematidea.
Also so the entry in the UK Plant Heritage site for Codonopsis:

http://www.codonopsisplants.co .uk/
Compare with my postings about Codonopsis clematidea.
So what do we know of Codonopsis obtusa (Chipp) Nannf.?  It was 
previouslyconsidered to be a variety of Codonopsis ovata.
Stewart knew it from Kurram and Chitral @ 2650-3300m.   Though no records 
forBaltistan or Ladakh.
Nasir in Campanulaceae for Flora of Pakistan covers C.obtusa.  He adds a record 
from Dir,giving a distribution of Turkestan and Afghanistan.  Apparently a full 
discussion on the variationpattern of this species is given in Flora Iranica 
(which I cannot readily access).
The features he uses to distinguish between C.obtusa and C.clematidea are 
inadequate andin parts, incorrect.  It is entirely possible some of the 
specimens he examined named as C.clematideawere in fact, C.obtusa.   Though I 
would not expect C.obtusa to be found in the Kashmir Valley butbotanists and 
photographers should look out for it in Ladakh.  
There are records of C.ovata for Ladakh but these are probably 
misidentifications for C.clematidea (Dickore & Klimes ONLY list C.clematidea in 
Ladakh) though one should now check for C.obtusa, usingthe characteristics 
shown in this posting.
I seem to recollect a record for C.obtusa in Ladakh but cannot find it at 
present.
If it can grow in Baltistan then why not Ladakh.  Given that Indian botanists 
have struggled todistinguish between C.clematidea, C.ovata and C.obtusa, when 
re-examined or fresh specimensare collected, the CORRECT distribution of these 
3 species may be resolved.
Note the trilobed stigma (in correct C.clematidea it is entire) plus more open 
shape of the flowers -not 'bell-shaped' as in C.clematidea.  Plus the markings 
in the throat are different.   Unfortunately, thephotos do not show the calyces 
well - one shot suggests they end up being reflexed as in C.clematideawith the 
lobes being markedly different to C.ovata.
I do not have any images myself of C.obtusa.  As far as I know, I have never 
come across the plant in the wildor cultivation for that matter.
PLEASE NOTE THAT QUALITY DIGITAL CLOSE-UPS, IN GOOD FOCUS, ARE IN SOME RESPECTS 
SUPERIORTO EVEN QUALITY PRESSED SPECIMENS, REVEALING DETAILS NOT AVAILABLE TO 
HERABIUM TAXONOMISTS.
I HAVE LONG TRIED TO EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS OF PLANTS TAXONOMIST BEING ABLE TO 
EXAMINE FRESH,LIVING SPECIMENS, IN ADDITIONAL TO DRIED PRESSED ONES.
THE NEW RULES & REGULATIONS INCL. THE NAGOYA PROTOCOL WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO 
IMPOSSIBLEFOR SPECIALIST SOCIETIES, PLANT CHARITIES AND INDIVIDUAL GROWERS TO 
GAIN ACCESS TO SPECIES FROMTHE WILD INCL. THE HIMALAYA.  THIS WILL DAMAGE PLANT 
CONSERVATION AND DO NOTHING TO HELP PROTECTGENUINELY 'RARE' SPECIES.
That leaves Part III - Codonopsis ovata.  I shall wait a while before 'sharing' 
my images and information about this.
Leaving all the above aside, this posting, combined with my one on C.clematidea 
is ANOTHER example of just what eFI can do to IMPROVE UPON and CORRECT existing 
knowledge and understanding of Indian flora through quality close-up digital 
images.   So much potential.
And wonderfully, the EVIDENCE is there for ALL to see!!!



Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk







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[efloraofindia:262969] Re: SK280DEC28-2016:ID- 2

[C CHADWELL]

Whilst the closer images, with more of them are welcome - taken in January 
whichis especially pleasing.   They may not be sufficient to enable me to 
'determine' the specimen.
Having images of the leaves are useful, especially the underside as well.
However, it can be difficult to decide without viewing the flowers.  ANY image 
whether offlowers, fruits or foliage is informative but characteristics of the 
fruits are often less well studies. 
I SHALL take a look at my reference material to see if I can narrow things down 
but it MAYstill require views of the flowers.  So PLEASE obtain these, IF you 
are in a position to later this year.
I realise this all seems rather involved, having taken two sets of photos now, 
however, for MOSTgenera, there are few (IF ANY) references for the fruits of a 
genus and OFTEN no way of reliablydistinguishing between them on the basis of 
fruits alone.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: Saroj Kasaju 
 To: J.M. Garg  
Cc: C CHADWELL ; Dinesh Vijigiri 
; efloraofindia 
 Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2017, 15:32
 Subject: Re: SK280DEC28-2016:ID- 2
   
31 January 2017
Finally some close ups !
Validation please .
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:05 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

Thanks a lot,  Chadwell ji and Saroj ji
On 24 Jan 2017 1:54 a.m., "C CHADWELL"  wrote:

I quite understand but can I REQUEST all photographers to search for accessible 
specimenswhich allow you them to take the necessary close-ups.  And have a 
camera which can take macro-shots.  MOST digital compacts have wonderful lenses 
these days with close-up facilities.  They are light-weight,fitting easily into 
a short pocket (see my recent post about photographing plants any month of the 
year).
It is great that members post images and I wish to ENCOURAGE not discourage but 
unless the imagessubmitted show the necessary detail/characteristics, it can be 
very difficult to impossible to identify to species.
The same situation exists for traditional pressed specimens for depositing in 
herbaria - unless one can see theoften ESSENTIAL parts of the plant then a 
reliable identification often cannot be performed.
Furthermore, such images tend not to help others RELIABLY identify the species 
when checked/compared with.
ONE of the objectives/aspirations of eFI is not just to identify the plants 
images of which have been sent in butto have a selection of images for EACH 
species which show CHARACTERISTIC/DIAGNOSTIC features.
In the past it was only economic to take one or two shots per plant, which 
tended to be 'general' views.  
Even such excellent guides as 'Flowers of the Himalaya' is now so dated 
photographically and OFTEN doesNOT show DIAGNOSTIC characteristics.
Nowadays one can take as many shots per plant as one likes - I OFTEN take 
15-20, sometimes 30.
Returning to "inaccessible" flowers.  Yes, particularly in forests, flowers of 
trees, tall shrubs and tall climberscan be difficult to reach.
Furthermore, there can be 'risks' in such places.  On my first visit to Nepal, 
I encountered Giant HimalayanStinging Nettles and leeches for the first time - 
which make plunging enthusiastically into thick vegetation lessappealing!  On 
my one and only visit to Meghalaya I came alarmingly close to a snake (could 
not tell if it wasvenomous or not and I was alone at the time) 
So care needs to be taken but there is no escaping the need to get amongst 
vegetation and tolerate suchunwelcome guests as leeches.
One of the advantages of concentrating upon plants at higher altitudes in 
Trans-Himalaya is thatthere are no such creatures to avoid!

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: Saroj Kasaju 
 To: J.M. Garg  
Cc: efloraofindia ; C CHADWELL 
; Dinesh Vijigiri 
 Sent: Monday, 23 January 2017, 10:24
 Subject: Re: SK280DEC28-2016:ID- 2
  
Dear All,
I agree not many images from different angles. The plant was situated on a 
slope without any access . All pictures were shotwith 800 zoom lens . That is 
all I could submit 





Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 8:27 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

1. Dinesh Vijigiri  wrote:

Sir it may be Clematis heynei or C. gouriyana
 2. Dear Saroj
It is nice to have more than just one or two images of a Clematis (and all 
other genera) to inspect but most of the 8 images taken are similar, revealing 
much the same information. PLEASE on future occasions with Clematis at the 
fruiting stage, can you take close-ups of the foliage including the undersides 
of the leaves.
It is always 

Re: [efloraofindia:262967] Re: Cotoneaster microphyllus

[C CHADWELL]

I am STILL waiting to hear from J.Fryer.  As I expected it would takeMONTHS for 
her to comment about the assorted images I sent of Cotoneastersposted on eFI.
UNTIL we hear (I will share her findings) it would be UNWISE for me to say 
much,beyond to advise once again that in MOST cases, what is currently 
understood tobe the TRUE Cotoneaster microphyllus is NOT what MOST people think 
it is!
According to 'Cotoneasters' Fryer & Hylmo (2009) C.microphyllus Wallich ex 
Lindleyis restricted to Nepal.
The TYPE specimen was collected FOR (but not BY) Wallich who was NOT permitted 
toventure beyond the Kathmandu during his visit(s).
It was found from the alpine zone of Gosainkund.  A VERY QUICK look at the 
plate anddescription in this book suggests the specimen you photographed may 
well NOT beC.microphyllus.
I shall be happy to send by CD (Jeanette does not have e-mail but IS worth the 
trouble)these images PLUS others sent in SINCE the last lot were sent. 
Even if I hear from Jeanette tomorrow, once again, a wait of months is likely 
to required.
PATIENCE is required.
For the time being it would, in my opinion, be POINTLESS, for anyone to 
SPECULATEfurther.   Thus put it as Cotoneaster sp.  AWAITING DETERMINATION.
IF there is a rival SPECIALIST in the genus, who can comment further, sooner 
than that,then fine.
 

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: Saroj Kasaju 
 To: J.M. Garg  
Cc: C CHADWELL ; efloraofindia 

 Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2017, 15:45
 Subject: [efloraofindia:262957] Re: Cotoneaster microphyllus
   
31 January 2017Same plant ! Would it help to validate ID ?

Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:24 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

Thanks, Chadwell ji
On 2 Nov 2016 3:56 am, "chrischadwell261@btinternet. com" 
 wrote:

I am beginning a check onCotoneasters posted on this site.  Unfortunately, I 
suspect a majority aremisidentified.  Will be sending available images to 
Jeanette Fryer (on aCD she does not use e-mail).  She was co-author with the 
late Bertil Hylmoof 'Cotoneasters' (2009) - the most knowledgeable person on 
the genus. She is always busy with other identification tasks so will certainly 
take weeksperhaps months before we hear but worth the wait. Please note her 
comments: "Klotz included within C.microphyllus a number of taxa from awide 
area ranging from W.Himalaya, Kumaon, through to eastern Tibet andthe provinces 
of Yunnan & Sichuan but in its strictest sense C.microphyllushas only been 
recorded from Nepal.  More research is desperately needed." I hope her 
determinations (accurateidentifications) will encourage members to take 
agreater interest in this neglected genus, photographing morespecies.   There 
is every possibility of locating species new toscience within this genus. It 
makes sense, when those with specialistknowledge are available to name material 
to take full advantage.  Thepresent situation with the naming of Cotoneaters in 
Indian herbaria is in needof improvement.  Many specimens are very old and/or 
in poor condition, ofa scrappy nature in the first place.

On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 1:48:05 PM UTC+1, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
Dear Mr. Garg,Sharing some pics of C. microphyllus shit on 8 July 2016 at 
Nagarkot Nepal at 7000 ft .Thank you.Saroj Kasaju



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Re: [efloraofindia:262968] Re: Cotoneaster microphyllus

[Saroj Kasaju]

Well!
Thank you
Saroj Kasaju

On 31 Jan 2017 23:35, "C CHADWELL"  wrote:

I am STILL waiting to hear from J.Fryer.  As I expected it would take
MONTHS for her to comment about the assorted images I sent of Cotoneasters
posted on eFI.

UNTIL we hear (I will share her findings) it would be UNWISE for me to say
much,
beyond to advise once again that in MOST cases, what is currently
understood to
be the TRUE Cotoneaster microphyllus is NOT what MOST people think it is!

According to 'Cotoneasters' Fryer & Hylmo (2009) C.microphyllus Wallich ex
Lindley
is restricted to Nepal.

The TYPE specimen was collected FOR (but not BY) Wallich who was NOT
permitted to
venture beyond the Kathmandu during his visit(s).

It was found from the alpine zone of Gosainkund.  A VERY QUICK look at the
plate and
description in this book suggests the specimen you photographed may well
NOT be
C.microphyllus.

I shall be happy to send by CD (Jeanette does not have e-mail but IS worth
the trouble)
these images PLUS others sent in SINCE the last lot were sent.

Even if I hear from Jeanette tomorrow, once again, a wait of months is
likely to required.

PATIENCE is required.

For the time being it would, in my opinion, be POINTLESS, for anyone to
SPECULATE
further.   Thus put it as Cotoneaster sp.  AWAITING DETERMINATION.

IF there is a rival SPECIALIST in the genus, who can comment further,
sooner than that,
then fine.




Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk






--
*From:* Saroj Kasaju 
*To:* J.M. Garg 
*Cc:* C CHADWELL ; efloraofindia <
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, 31 January 2017, 15:45
*Subject:* [efloraofindia:262957] Re: Cotoneaster microphyllus

31 January 2017
Same plant !
Would it help to validate ID ?


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 10:24 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 2 Nov 2016 3:56 am, "chrischadwell261@btinternet. com
" > wrote:

I am beginning a check on Cotoneasters posted on this site.  Unfortunately,
I suspect a majority are misidentified.  Will be sending available images
to Jeanette Fryer (on a CD she does not use e-mail).  She was co-author
with the late Bertil Hylmo of 'Cotoneasters' (2009) - the most
knowledgeable person on the genus.  She is always busy with other
identification tasks so will certainly take weeks perhaps months before we
hear but worth the wait.

Please note her comments: "*Klotz included within C.microphyllus a number
of taxa from a wide area ranging from W.Himalaya, Kumaon, through to
eastern Tibet and the provinces of Yunnan & Sichuan but in its strictest
sense C.microphyllus has only been recorded from Nepal.  More research is
desperately needed.*"

I hope her determinations (accurate identifications) will encourage members
to take a greater interest in this neglected genus, photographing more
species.   There is every possibility of locating species new to science
within this genus.

*It makes sense, when those with specialist knowledge are available to name
material to take full advantage.  The present situation with the naming of
Cotoneaters in Indian herbaria is in need of improvement.  Many specimens
are very old and/or in poor condition, of a scrappy nature in the first
place.*


On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 1:48:05 PM UTC+1, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:

Dear Mr. Garg,
Sharing some pics of C. microphyllus shit on 8 July 2016 at Nagarkot Nepal
at 7000 ft .
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju


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Re: [efloraofindia:262966] Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Agree !

On 31 Jan 2017 23:17, "C CHADWELL"  wrote:

> Sometimes it is NOT POSSIBLE to fully identify plants beyond genus.  A
> proper
> DETERMINATION cannot reliably be arrived at - for various reasons and thus
> must simply be accepted as sp. ONLY.
>
> In the future when a genus is revised well or someone with specialist
> knowledge
> takes a look at the photos, they MIGHT be in a position to name it -
> though the
> information provided by the photos may not be sufficient.
>
> To name plants TOO speculatively is A MISTAKE and CAN ONLY LEAD TO
> FURTHER CONFUSION.
>
> However frustrating, this MUST be accepted.
>
> IF somewhere like Kew receives either an INADEQUATE pressed specimen or
> the genus is not well-known enough, they will either just put sp. or
> perhaps aff.
> indicating "having affinities to" a particular species but NOT saying it
> belongs to
> that species.
>
> *As I regularly state, plants are variable things and we CANNOT always
> NEATLY*
> *pigeon-hole them into existing species.*
>
> *To ACCEPT this situation is a sign not of incompetence but COMPETENCE.*
>
> *A LOT of trouble is caused by too many guesses and speculations as to
> species*
> *names - MANY images of plants on the internet both in cultivation and the
> wild*
> *are MISIDENTIFIED.*
>
> *As are a SIGNIFICANT proportion of those in Floras of different parts of
> the Indian*
> *Himalaya.*
>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Chris Chadwell
>
>
> 81 Parlaunt Road
> SLOUGH
> SL3 8BE
> UK
>
> www.shpa.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Saroj Kasaju 
> *To:* J.M. Garg 
> *Cc:* C CHADWELL ; efloraofindia <
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 31 January 2017, 15:23
> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:262950] Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID
>
> 31 January 2017 Same plant!
> No luck  !  Not a single fruit !
> ID validation still pending !
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:22 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.
>
> On 26 January 2017 at 01:53, C CHADWELL  > wrote:
>
> I based my comments upon the treatment of Eleagnus within Flora of Bhutan,
> Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal and Flora of Japan.
>
> I have greater confidence in these than 'Flora of Pakistan' and Flora of
> China.
>
> Yes, Stewart listed E.umbellata Thunb. based upon Hooker in FBI.  He gave
> E.parvifolia Wall. ex Royle as a synonym.  He recorded it from N.Pakistan
> and
> Kashmir @ 900-3000m incl. Tangmarg.
>
> However, Flowers of the Himalaya has E.parvifolia with E.umbellata auct.
> non-Thunb.
> as a synonym - this means E.umbellata NOT authored by Thunberg.
>
> The Enumeration Vol 3 (1982) is consistent with the treatment in Flowers
> of the Himalaya.
>
> Both give a distribution through to SW for this species.  The latter does
> NOT list E.umbellata Thunb.
>
> As for Flora of Bhutan Vol 2 Part I (1992) this includes E.parvifolia
> Royle giving as a synonym
> E.umbellata sensu FBI non Thunberg.
>
> I also happen to have a copy of 'Flora of Japan' by J.Ohwi  (in English)
> published by the Smithsonian
> Inst., Washington DC in 1984 - my 'heaviest' flora @ 3.4kg (28 x 22 x 8
> cm).
>
> This includes E.umbellata Thunb. - common & variable OFTEN CULTIVATED in
> Hokkaido, Honshu,
> Shikoku & Kyushu - it does not mention it occurrence elsewhere.  3
> varieties are given incl. var. hortensis.
>
> *You do get DIFFERENCES of interpretation amongst taxonomists.  Clearly
> Elaeagnus is not an easy genus*
> *identification-wise.*
>
> *I do not know if there has been a recent revision of the genus Elaeagnus?*
>
> *I have seen examples of taxa in the NW Himalaya which were assigned to
> 'Japanese' species when*
> *there had been a misunderstanding of nomenclature i.e. a species name
> used by more than one author.*
> *I shall comment about this in a separate post.*
>
> *IF, a world authority on Elaeagnus exists, their thoughts would be
> welcome.*
>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Chris Chadwell
>
>
> 81 Parlaunt Road
> SLOUGH
> SL3 8BE
> UK
>
> www.shpa.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* J.M. Garg 
> *To:* C CHADWELL  >
> *Cc:* efloraofindia  >; Saroj Kasaju 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 January 2017, 13:09
> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID
>
> Thanks,  Chadwell ji.
> Both Flora of Pakistan and Flora of China list it.
>
> On 23 Jan 2017 7:37 a.m., "C CHADWELL"  > wrote:
>
> *I cannot agree that the specimen you photographed is Elaeagnus umbellata
> Thunb. - as far as I know this*
> *is NOT found anywhere in the Himalaya but thickets & thin woods in
> 

Re: [efloraofindia:262965] Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID

[C CHADWELL]

Sometimes it is NOT POSSIBLE to fully identify plants beyond genus.  A 
properDETERMINATION cannot reliably be arrived at - for various reasons and 
thusmust simply be accepted as sp. ONLY.
In the future when a genus is revised well or someone with specialist 
knowledgetakes a look at the photos, they MIGHT be in a position to name it - 
though theinformation provided by the photos may not be sufficient.
To name plants TOO speculatively is A MISTAKE and CAN ONLY LEAD TOFURTHER 
CONFUSION.
However frustrating, this MUST be accepted.
IF somewhere like Kew receives either an INADEQUATE pressed specimen orthe 
genus is not well-known enough, they will either just put sp. or perhaps 
aff.indicating "having affinities to" a particular species but NOT saying it 
belongs tothat species.
As I regularly state, plants are variable things and we CANNOT always 
NEATLYpigeon-hole them into existing species.
To ACCEPT this situation is a sign not of incompetence but COMPETENCE.
A LOT of trouble is caused by too many guesses and speculations as to 
speciesnames - MANY images of plants on the internet both in cultivation and 
the wildare MISIDENTIFIED.
As are a SIGNIFICANT proportion of those in Floras of different parts of the 
IndianHimalaya.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: Saroj Kasaju 
 To: J.M. Garg  
Cc: C CHADWELL ; efloraofindia 

 Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2017, 15:23
 Subject: [efloraofindia:262950] Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID
   
31 January 2017 Same plant! No luck  !  Not a single fruit !ID validation still 
pending !
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:22 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.
On 26 January 2017 at 01:53, C CHADWELL  
wrote:

I based my comments upon the treatment of Eleagnus within Flora of 
Bhutan,Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal and Flora of Japan.
I have greater confidence in these than 'Flora of Pakistan' and Flora of China.
Yes, Stewart listed E.umbellata Thunb. based upon Hooker in FBI.  He 
gaveE.parvifolia Wall. ex Royle as a synonym.  He recorded it from N.Pakistan 
andKashmir @ 900-3000m incl. Tangmarg.
However, Flowers of the Himalaya has E.parvifolia with E.umbellata auct. 
non-Thunb.as a synonym - this means E.umbellata NOT authored by Thunberg.
The Enumeration Vol 3 (1982) is consistent with the treatment in Flowers of the 
Himalaya.
Both give a distribution through to SW for this species.  The latter does NOT 
list E.umbellata Thunb.
As for Flora of Bhutan Vol 2 Part I (1992) this includes E.parvifolia Royle 
giving as a synonymE.umbellata sensu FBI non Thunberg.
I also happen to have a copy of 'Flora of Japan' by J.Ohwi  (in English) 
published by the SmithsonianInst., Washington DC in 1984 - my 'heaviest' flora 
@ 3.4kg (28 x 22 x 8 cm).
This includes E.umbellata Thunb. - common & variable OFTEN CULTIVATED in 
Hokkaido, Honshu,Shikoku & Kyushu - it does not mention it occurrence 
elsewhere.  3 varieties are given incl. var. hortensis.
You do get DIFFERENCES of interpretation amongst taxonomists.  Clearly 
Elaeagnus is not an easy genusidentification-wise.
I do not know if there has been a recent revision of the genus Elaeagnus?
I have seen examples of taxa in the NW Himalaya which were assigned to 
'Japanese' species whenthere had been a misunderstanding of nomenclature i.e. a 
species name used by more than one author.I shall comment about this in a 
separate post.
IF, a world authority on Elaeagnus exists, their thoughts would be welcome.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
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UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: J.M. Garg 
 To: C CHADWELL  
Cc: efloraofindia ; Saroj Kasaju 

 Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2017, 13:09
 Subject: Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID
  
Thanks,  Chadwell ji. 
Both Flora of Pakistan and Flora of China list it. 
On 23 Jan 2017 7:37 a.m., "C CHADWELL"  wrote:

I cannot agree that the specimen you photographed is Elaeagnus umbellata Thunb. 
- as far as I know thisis NOT found anywhere in the Himalaya but thickets & 
thin woods in lowlands and hills in Japan!
Elaeagnus is not an easy genus.
According to the Annotated Checklist of the Flowering Plants of Nepal 7 taxa 
belonging to 5 species arefound in Nepal:
E.caudataE.infundibularisE.kanaiiE.parvifoliaE.tricholepis
Needs looking into further.

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





  From: J.M. Garg 
 To: efloraofindia  
Cc: Saroj Kasaju ; chrischadwell261@btinternet. com
 Sent: Monday, 16 January 2017, 6:15
 Subject: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID
  
As per 

[efloraofindia:262963] Re: Cissampelos pareira L. (accepted name)

[Saroj Kasaju]

Difficult !

*Stephania glabra *(Roxb.) Miers (accepted name)  ??

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110_id=242350474

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:54 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks,  Rawat ji
>
> On 27 Jan 2017 4:13 p.m., "D.S Rawat" 
> wrote:
>
>> Please check under Stephania in eFI.
>> 
>>
>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 10:23:47 PM UTC+5:30, Saroj Kumar Kasaju
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Raniban, Balaju, Nepal
>>> Altitude:  4900 ft.
>>> Date: 26 August 2016
>>>
>>> Nepali Names : बाटुलपाते Baatulpaate / गुदरगानो Gudargaano/ जलुको
>>> Jaluko  / बाटुले लहरा Baatule Laharaa / पाठा Paathaa
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
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[efloraofindia:262962] Re: Plant For ID : Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-24

[Aarti S. Khale]

Darshan Ji,
Thanks for the id.
Regards,
Aarti

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Darshan Kokate 
wrote:

>  Aartiji looks like  Eupatorium odoratum regardsDarshan Kokate
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:48:54 PM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:
>>
>> Seen in the first week of Jan, near a lake.
>> Aarti
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:262961] MS Jan.2017/13 Macaranga sp. (denticulata?) for ID

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Yes, *M. denticulata *once again, possibly var. *pustulata.*

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:12 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Sawmliana ji.
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> Date: 31 January 2017 at 10:24
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:262920] MS Jan.2017/13 Macaranga sp.
> (denticulata?) for ID
> To: "J.M. Garg" 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 8:32 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Thanks,  Sawmliana ji
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>> From: "M Sawmliana" 
>> Date: 31 Jan 2017 7:29 a.m.
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:262920] MS Jan.2017/13 Macaranga sp.
>> (denticulata?) for ID
>> To: "efloraofindia" 
>> Cc:
>>
>> Location : Tamdil, Mizoram
>> Altitude : ca 730 m.
>> Date : 31-03-2016
>> Habit : Small to middle-sized tree
>> Habitat : Wild
>>
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[efloraofindia:262958] Re: Plant For ID : Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-24

[Darshan Kokate]

 Aartiji looks like  Eupatorium odoratum regardsDarshan Kokate

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> Seen in the first week of Jan, near a lake.
> Aarti
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[efloraofindia:262952] Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Saroj ji.
Nice images.

On 31 Jan 2017 8:53 p.m., "Saroj Kasaju"  wrote:

> 31 January 2017 Same plant!
> No luck  !  Not a single fruit !
> ID validation still pending !
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:22 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji.
>>
>> On 26 January 2017 at 01:53, C CHADWELL 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I based my comments upon the treatment of Eleagnus within Flora of
>>> Bhutan,
>>> Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal and Flora of Japan.
>>>
>>> I have greater confidence in these than 'Flora of Pakistan' and Flora of
>>> China.
>>>
>>> Yes, Stewart listed E.umbellata Thunb. based upon Hooker in FBI.  He gave
>>> E.parvifolia Wall. ex Royle as a synonym.  He recorded it from
>>> N.Pakistan and
>>> Kashmir @ 900-3000m incl. Tangmarg.
>>>
>>> However, Flowers of the Himalaya has E.parvifolia with E.umbellata auct.
>>> non-Thunb.
>>> as a synonym - this means E.umbellata NOT authored by Thunberg.
>>>
>>> The Enumeration Vol 3 (1982) is consistent with the treatment in Flowers
>>> of the Himalaya.
>>>
>>> Both give a distribution through to SW for this species.  The latter
>>> does NOT list E.umbellata Thunb.
>>>
>>> As for Flora of Bhutan Vol 2 Part I (1992) this includes E.parvifolia
>>> Royle giving as a synonym
>>> E.umbellata sensu FBI non Thunberg.
>>>
>>> I also happen to have a copy of 'Flora of Japan' by J.Ohwi  (in English)
>>> published by the Smithsonian
>>> Inst., Washington DC in 1984 - my 'heaviest' flora @ 3.4kg (28 x 22 x 8
>>> cm).
>>>
>>> This includes E.umbellata Thunb. - common & variable OFTEN CULTIVATED in
>>> Hokkaido, Honshu,
>>> Shikoku & Kyushu - it does not mention it occurrence elsewhere.  3
>>> varieties are given incl. var. hortensis.
>>>
>>> *You do get DIFFERENCES of interpretation amongst taxonomists.  Clearly
>>> Elaeagnus is not an easy genus*
>>> *identification-wise.*
>>>
>>> *I do not know if there has been a recent revision of the genus
>>> Elaeagnus?*
>>>
>>> *I have seen examples of taxa in the NW Himalaya which were assigned to
>>> 'Japanese' species when*
>>> *there had been a misunderstanding of nomenclature i.e. a species name
>>> used by more than one author.*
>>> *I shall comment about this in a separate post.*
>>>
>>> *IF, a world authority on Elaeagnus exists, their thoughts would be
>>> welcome.*
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Chadwell
>>>
>>>
>>> 81 Parlaunt Road
>>> SLOUGH
>>> SL3 8BE
>>> UK
>>>
>>> www.shpa.org.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* J.M. Garg 
>>> *To:* C CHADWELL 
>>> *Cc:* efloraofindia ; Saroj Kasaju <
>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 January 2017, 13:09
>>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID
>>>
>>> Thanks,  Chadwell ji.
>>> Both Flora of Pakistan and Flora of China list it.
>>>
>>> On 23 Jan 2017 7:37 a.m., "C CHADWELL" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> *I cannot agree that the specimen you photographed is Elaeagnus
>>> umbellata Thunb. - as far as I know this*
>>> *is NOT found anywhere in the Himalaya but thickets & thin woods in
>>> lowlands and hills in Japan!*
>>>
>>> Elaeagnus is not an easy genus.
>>>
>>> According to the Annotated Checklist of the Flowering Plants of Nepal 7
>>> taxa belonging to 5 species are
>>> found in Nepal:
>>>
>>> E.caudata
>>> E.infundibularis
>>> E.kanaii
>>> E.parvifolia
>>> E.tricholepis
>>>
>>> Needs looking into further.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Wishes,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Chadwell
>>>
>>>
>>> 81 Parlaunt Road
>>> SLOUGH
>>> SL3 8BE
>>> UK
>>>
>>> www.shpa.org.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* J.M. Garg 
>>> *To:* efloraofindia >> >
>>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju ; chrischadwell261@btinternet.
>>> com 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 16 January 2017, 6:15
>>> *Subject:* Fwd: SK281DEC29-2016:ID
>>>
>>> As per comparative images at Elaeagnus
>>> ,
>>> I find it more closer to Elaeagnus umbellata
>>> 
>>>  rather
>>> than Elaeagnus conferta
>>> 
>>>
>>> As per Images posted of *Elaeagnus parvifolia* Wall. ex Royle & *Elaeagnus
>>> umbellata* Thunb.
>>> 
>>>  in
>>> efi, both look similar.
>>> Flora of Pakistan only lists *Elaeagnus umbellata*
>>>  with
>>> distribution as Japan, Assam, China, 

Fwd: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:262950] VZT5-24/1/17

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Mayur ji
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From: "mayur nandikar" 
Date: 31 Jan 2017 8:51 p.m.
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:262935] VZT5-24/1/17
To: "J.M. Garg" 
Cc:

Yes it is Microcos paniculata (=Grewia nervosa).

On 31 Jan 2017 6:50 p.m., "J.M. Garg"  wrote:

> Thanks,  Yuvraj ji
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> From: "Yuvraj Patil" 
> Date: 31 Jan 2017 6:39 p.m.
> Subject: [efloraofindia:262935] VZT5-24/1/17
> To: 
> Cc:
>
> Date/Time-22/1/2017
> Location- Daouli, Dapoli, MH
> Habitat- Wild
> Plant Habit- Tree
> Height-10 meter
>
>
> May be Grewia nervosa
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:262949] Manilkara zapota : Variegated Leaves : Flower Show,Mumbai : AK-25

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Garg Ji.
Actually taken in a hurry as I had to travel.
Aarti

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:33 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Beautiful images,  Aarti ji
>
> On 31 Jan 2017 7:57 p.m., "Aarti S. Khale"  wrote:
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>> At the Flower Show in Mumbai on 13th Jan,17.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262948] Manilkara zapota : Variegated Leaves : Flower Show,Mumbai : AK-25

[J.M. Garg]

Beautiful images,  Aarti ji

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> At the Flower Show in Mumbai on 13th Jan,17.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262947] Plant For ID : Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-24

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Aarti ji

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> Seen in the first week of Jan, near a lake.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262946] Dombeya For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-23

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Ajinkya ji

On 31 Jan 2017 7:25 p.m., "ajinkya gadave"  wrote:

> *Dombeya wallichii*
>
> On 31 January 2017 at 19:20, Aarti S. Khale  wrote:
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>> Dombeya seen in Lalbagh earlier this month.
>> For Species id please.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262945] Tecoma Species For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-22

[J.M. Garg]

Very nice images,  Aarti ji

On 31 Jan 2017 7:10 p.m., "Aarti S. Khale"  wrote:

> Tecoma Species seen in Lalbagh in the first week of this month with narrow
> leaves.
> Could be Tecoma stans var. angustata as per the link.
>
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Yellow%
> 20Trumpet%20Flower.html
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Re: [efloraofindia:262942] Dombeya For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-23

[Aarti S. Khale]

Ajinkya Ji,
Thanks a lot for prompt id.
Regards,
Aarti

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 5:55 PM, ajinkya gadave 
wrote:

> *Dombeya wallichii*
>
> On 31 January 2017 at 19:20, Aarti S. Khale  wrote:
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>> Dombeya seen in Lalbagh earlier this month.
>> For Species id please.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262941] Dombeya For ID : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 31JAN17 : AK-23

[ajinkya gadave]

*Dombeya wallichii*

On 31 January 2017 at 19:20, Aarti S. Khale  wrote:

> Dombeya seen in Lalbagh earlier this month.
> For Species id please.
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Re: [efloraofindia:262937] Wild plant for ID :: Karjat, MH :: ARKJAN15

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Alka ji

On 31 Jan 2017 5:41 p.m., "Alka Khare"  wrote:

> Hello friends
>
> Saw this plant growing wild (I think) near a nursery in Karjat. No flowers
> or fruits were seen.
>
> Requested to please provide ID.
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:262934] Sida for ID :: Aarey, Mumbai :: ARKJAN13

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Alka ji.
Pl. Check comparative images at EFI.

On 31 Jan 2017 2:30 p.m., "Alka Khare"  wrote:

> Hello friends
>
> Saw these Sida in the Aarey forest in Mumbai in November 2016. I suspect
> them to be more than 1 species.
>
> Is it possible to ID them?
>
> Thanks and regards
> Alka Khare
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Re: [efloraofindia:262933] Ornamental for ID :: Thane, MH :: ARKJAN14

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Alka ji

On 31 Jan 2017 3:14 p.m., "Alka Khare"  wrote:

> Hello friends
>
> Saw this ornamental in a cultivated garden in Thane, Maharashtra in
> December 2016.
>
> Any idea as to its ID?
>
> Thanks and regards
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Fwd: Re: [efloraofindia:262932] MS Jan,2017/05 Strobilanthes sp. for ID

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks,  Dr.  Wood
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From: "John Wood" 
Date: 31 Jan 2017 4:37 p.m.
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:262657] MS Jan,2017/05 Strobilanthes sp. for ID
To: "J.M. Garg" 
Cc:


> I am fairly certain this is Strobilanthes discolor (Nees) T. Anderson.
> Glabrous corolla (somewhat curved) and very anisopyllous leaves. I can't
> see the calyx but guess it  is okay.
>
>
> REgards
>
>
> John Wood
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> *From:* J.M. Garg 
> *Sent:* 31 January 2017 01:09
> *To:* efloraofindia
> *Cc:* M Sawmliana
> *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:262657] MS Jan,2017/05 Strobilanthes sp.
> for ID
>
>
> Thanks,  Sawmliana ji
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> Date: 28 Jan 2017 9:56 a.m.
> Subject: [efloraofindia:262657] MS Jan,2017/05 Strobilanthes sp. for ID
> To: "efloraofindia" 
> Cc:
>
> Location : Sairep, Mizoram
> Date : 25-01-2017
> Habit : Shrub
> Habitat : Wild
>
> Regards,
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[efloraofindia:262931] Re: Senecio chrysanthemoides in Ladakh

[chrischadwell...@btinternet.com]

Thanks very much for drawing my attention to the article 'Death sentence on 
taxonomy in India' - BRAVO to the authors for "speaking up and out".
Much Needed.

I shall  be commenting further - on what is SUCH a serious situation, 
especially ON TOP OF 70 years of botanical isolation since Indian 
Independence. It
is noteworthy that both Pakistan and Nepal have collaborated 
Internationally MUCH better than India, such that despite a FRACTION of the 
manpower
and resources of India, their 'Himalayan Flora' is known to a higher 
standard than India's - the same can even be said for the decidedly 
isolated Kingdom
of Bhutan!   Those devising and implementing such "rules and regulations" 
have NO interest or concern about the study & conservation of Indian's 
flora -
which can only suffer FURTHER.

Looks like we are heading into an era when the likes of Donald Trump rule.  
IGNORANCE RULES OK!.   The idea that such measures help PROTECT India's
flora is a NONSENSE.   Their ONLY concern is not MISSING OUT on their cut 
of any POTENTIAL PROFITS..

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 7:36:31 AM UTC, JM Garg wrote:

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> From: C CHADWELL 
> Date: 21 January 2017 at 01:21
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261908] Fwd: Senecio chrysanthemoides DC. 
> (provisionally accepted name) ???
> To: "J.M. Garg" , efloraofindia <
> indian...@googlegroups.com >
> Cc: Saroj Kasaju 
>
>
> Further to my comments about the difficulties of identifying Senecio 
> chrysanthemoides and related
> species, I attach an image of what I understand to be this species taken 
> for me in Ladakh as a slide
> in the late 1980s/early 1990s, which has been scanned in.
>
> This was one of the first pressed specimens collected by my team during 
> the 1980 University of Southampton
> Ladakh Expedition - gathered in triplicate, with a set deposited in the 
> herbarium of the University of Kashmir.
> This was at 3300m, Panichar, Suru Valley on a grassy verge beside 
> irrigation stream and a barley field in moist
> loam amongst Trifolium, grasses, Geranium himalayense with bright yellow 
> ray florets, disc florets brown.
>
> Stewart recorded S.chrysanthemoides as common, very variable with the 
> forms NEEDING TO BE STUDIED
> in cultivation and chromosome counts should be made.  Recorded from 
> Kashmir & Ladakh @ 1700-4000m.
> Stewart recognised var. analogus and var. sisymbriiformis - saying this 
> was common on high pastures in Kashmir
> as it is avoided by grazing animals.
>
> Flowers of the Himalaya state that S.chrysanthemoides is found in 
> shrubberies and open slopes, common & often
> gregarious @ 2400-4000m from Pakistan to SW China.
>
> Flora of Lahaul-Spiti does not record S.chrysanthemoides but has S.laetus 
> with var. laetus common on moist slopes
> and along glacial streams at Khoksar.  Also var. sisymbriiformis (DC.) 
> Aswal comb.nov. (syn. Senecio chrysanthemoides
> var. sisymbriiformis and obviously a mistake but rather glaring to be 
> printed, SISYMBRIUM sisymbriiformis) which the
> authors say is common on moist slopes and along streams at Kirting.
>
> Collet in 'Flora Simlensis' found S.chrysanthemoides common at Shimla and 
> Mahasu.
>
> Himalayan Plants Illustrated has a photo of S.laetus Edgew. with 
> S.chrysanthemoides DC. as a synonym.
>
> BUT Dickore & Klimes do NOT list S.chrysanthemoides from Ladakh. although 
> the species remains an ACCEPTED name - at least
> in 'The Plant List'.  Nor do they list S.laetus.
>
> So which of the species listed by them was previously known as 
> S.chrysanthemoides - after all the specimens from the 1980
> expedition were named at Kew and thus we can assume was correctly 
> identified and in line with the thinking at that time - albeit
> some 37 years ago.
>
> They list S.dubitabilis, which if the illustrations and specimen which can 
> be accessed through 'The Plant List' are correct, this cannot be confused
> with what used to be S.chrysanthemoides and may be what Stewart knew as 
> S.desfontanei (common in dry areas from the plains to
> 3000m in Ladakh).
>
> I CANNOT find any meaningful information about Senecio korschinskyi. which 
> Dickore & Klimes do list but have just
> spotted Senecio ladakhensis Chowdhery, Uniyal, Mathur & Rao.  *This 
> species was published in the Indian Journal of Forestry (*
> *13[4] 366-67  in 1990*).  If any members have ready access to this would 
> they share the information with us particularly how it is .  I am 
> particularly interested
> in which species of Senecio this NEW species might have been mistaken for 
> in the past?
>
> Strange that it was published back in 1990 yet Dickore & Klimes did not 
> include it in their check-list of Ladakh plants in 2005.
>
> *This is the first I have heard of S.ladakhensis.*  Just goes to show 
> that unless one works at an International Institution, which has copies
> of such publications as The Indian 

Re: [efloraofindia:262929] Line drawing of Tragia sanjappae (Euphorbiaceae)

[Subhasis Panda]

Nice drawing


On Jan 31, 2017 6:08 AM, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:

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> On 30 Jan 2017 11:04 p.m., "Tapas Chakrabarty"  wrote:
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>> I am sharing herewith a drawing of *Tragia sanjappae * which may be
>> helpful in identification of the species.  Drawn by me.
>> Regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:262926] Line drawing of Tragia praetervisa (Euphorbiaceae)

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Work of bad artist.

On Jan 31, 2017 06:09, "J.M. Garg"  wrote:

> Superb!!!
>
> On 30 Jan 2017 11:09 p.m., "Tapas Chakrabarty"  wrote:
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>> Presenting a line drawing of *Tragia praetervisa.*
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