Re: cvs or subversion or manual control

2004-10-23 Thread Aad Rijnberg
Hi Al,

if I recall correctly Subversion handles binary files better than CVS
does. So if you are going to check in e.g. pictures (jpg, gif),
MS-Office documents (doc, ppt, ...) or pdf-files for your web pages, and
they change from time to time, then I think subversion is the better
choice.

You can find the documentation on Subversion on
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
Chapter 6 deals with server configuration and chapter 5 with repository
administration.

Kind regards,
Aad

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 03:45, Algis Kabaila wrote:
 Which one should I use? (CVS or Subversion)

 What do I do to configure repository on my PC.




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Re: cvs or subversion or manual control

2004-10-21 Thread Mark D. Baushke
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Hi Al,

A google search of 'subversion vs cvs' will likely find many papers that
compare and contrast the two systems.

If you are just managing your own files and no one else needs to use
them outside of the machine where you are holding them now, then you
might find that using 'rcs' will have less overhead in general than
using either of cvs or subversion.

cvs has been around a fairly long time and is reasonably stable.
cvs has both remote client/server mode as well as a local mode of
operation.

subversion was written with the goal of addressing many of the
shortcomings of cvs such as directory and file renaming and atomic
commits across multiple directories. Written to be a client/server
application.

Good luck,
-- Mark
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Re: cvs or subversion or manual control

2004-10-21 Thread Arthur Barrett
Algis,

Another option is CVSNT (on Linux or Windows) which is CVS with all the
subversion features.

The manual is a good place to start but not extremely beginner friendly:
http://www.cvsnt.org/manual/

CVSNT can be downloaded from:
http://www.cvsnt.com

Regards,


Arthur Barrett

Algis Kabaila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I am a 79 year old newbee, who has been around computers since the valve
 version.

 Currently I have taken on the task of looking after a web page (or
 pages) for Open Source Software in a PC users' group.  I also started to
 program Python, which I really love.  I use a version of Linux distro,
 which includes cvs and subversion - not yet installed

 In the past, all version control in my work was kept manually, mostly
 under Win OS. I want to take advantage of a programmed version control of

 1. HTML pages, which are essentially text (written with Kate, verified
 with Firefox)

 2. Python scripts - programs.  Mainly civil - structural engineering,
 with numarray.

 My GNU/Linux distro gives me the following info:

  CVS is a front-end to the Revision Control System included in the
 standard Linux distributions. PCL-CVS, an Emacs front-end for CVS, is
 also included.

  Subversion does the same thing CVS does (Concurrent Versioning
 System) but has major enhancements compared to CVS.
 http://subversion.tigris.org

 Which one should I use?  What do I do to configure repository on my PC.
   Mostly I will be the only person using it, at least initially.  Is cvs
 or subversion the way to go to for continuous updating of a web site?

 I would really, really appreciate advice, before I commit my time to
 study either of the two version control systems.  For me my time is
 rather valuable, as it is gradually running out.  Should I, instead,
 stick to my trusted old ways of keeping the version control manually?

 My background is teaching in several tertiary institutions.  I live down
 -under.  A great place!

 (I confess to being a sucker for things that are new to me...)

 Thank you for your patience and the advice to come!

 Al (my handle is OldAl, my email is a_kabaila at yahoo.com.au)


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cvs or subversion or manual control

2004-10-20 Thread Algis Kabaila
I am a 79 year old newbee, who has been around computers since the valve 
version.

Currently I have taken on the task of looking after a web page (or 
pages) for Open Source Software in a PC users' group.  I also started to 
program Python, which I really love.  I use a version of Linux distro, 
which includes cvs and subversion - not yet installed

In the past, all version control in my work was kept manually, mostly 
under Win OS. I want to take advantage of a programmed version control of

1. HTML pages, which are essentially text (written with Kate, verified 
with Firefox)

2. Python scripts - programs.  Mainly civil - structural engineering, 
with numarray.

My GNU/Linux distro gives me the following info:
 CVS is a front-end to the Revision Control System included in the 
standard Linux distributions. PCL-CVS, an Emacs front-end for CVS, is 
also included.

 Subversion does the same thing CVS does (Concurrent Versioning 
System) but has major enhancements compared to CVS. 
http://subversion.tigris.org

Which one should I use?  What do I do to configure repository on my PC.
 Mostly I will be the only person using it, at least initially.  Is cvs 
or subversion the way to go to for continuous updating of a web site?

I would really, really appreciate advice, before I commit my time to 
study either of the two version control systems.  For me my time is 
rather valuable, as it is gradually running out.  Should I, instead, 
stick to my trusted old ways of keeping the version control manually?

My background is teaching in several tertiary institutions.  I live down 
-under.  A great place!

(I confess to being a sucker for things that are new to me...)
Thank you for your patience and the advice to come!
Al (my handle is OldAl, my email is a_kabaila at yahoo.com.au)
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Re: CVS to Subversion

2004-09-24 Thread Mario Scheer
Hi, there isn't a problem with subversion, it works really fine. But my
problem
is to convert a cvs repository using cvs2svn.



Carter Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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If you're having problems with Subversion try the Subversion
mailing list.  http://subversion.tigris.org/

The conversion you're attempting would be more appropriately
addressed there.

Carter.


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 Subject: CVS to Subversion


 Hi, I have some troubles converting a CVS repository to a
 Subversion repository. I'm using the tool cvs2svn.py.
 (http://cvs2svn.tigris.org)

 I always get this error message:


 Unable to convert a path
 'trunk/defaullt/rve/ap/tact/comp/data_reiseb|ro.zip'
 to internal encoding.
 Consider rerunning with (for example) '--encoding=latin1'

 I know that there is a | in the filename, because it's a
 german symbol. I tried cp850, and UTF-8 as encodings, but it
 doesnt work.

 Any ideas?


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Re: CVS to Subversion

2004-09-24 Thread Spiro Trikaliotis
Hello,

* On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 08:36:09AM +0200 Mario Scheer wrote:

 Hi, there isn't a problem with subversion, it works really fine. But
 my problem is to convert a cvs repository using cvs2svn.

Then do what Max Bowsher told you: Go to the cvs2svn mailing list.

http://cvs2svn.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList

Hint: The users mailing list is exactly what you want (have a look at
the bottom)

HTH,
   Spiro.

-- 
Spiro R. Trikaliotis
http://www.trikaliotis.net/
http://www.viceteam.org/


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Re: CVS to Subversion

2004-09-24 Thread Nathan Kidd
Nathan Kidd wrote:
Hi Mario,
Cvs2svn is a project in itself.  It's primarily developed by Subversion 
developers (as is Max Bowsher, who's earlier pointer would be well 
taken). Try the cvs2svn mailing lists:

http://cvs2svn.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList
HTH,
-Nathan
embarrased
Let's have a hand for spam solutions that hold up mail, causing one to 
duplicate other's prior (but unseen) posts.
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Re: CVS to Subversion

2004-09-23 Thread Max Bowsher
Mario Scheer wrote:
Hi, I have some troubles converting a CVS repository to a Subversion
repository.
I'm using the tool cvs2svn.py. (http://cvs2svn.tigris.org)
I always get this error message:
Unable to convert a path
'trunk/defaullt/rve/ap/tact/comp/data_reisebro.zip'
to internal encoding.
Consider rerunning with (for example) '--encoding=latin1'
I know that there is a  in the filename, because it's a german symbol. 
I
tried cp850, and UTF-8 as encodings, but it doesnt work.

Any ideas?
Why not try asking on the cvs2svn users mailing list?
Max. 


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RE: CVS to Subversion

2004-09-23 Thread Carter Thompson


If you're having problems with Subversion try the Subversion
mailing list.  http://subversion.tigris.org/

The conversion you're attempting would be more appropriately
addressed there.

Carter.


 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Mario Scheer
 Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:51 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: CVS to Subversion
 
 
 Hi, I have some troubles converting a CVS repository to a 
 Subversion repository. I'm using the tool cvs2svn.py. 
 (http://cvs2svn.tigris.org)
 
 I always get this error message:
 
 
 Unable to convert a path 
 'trunk/defaullt/rve/ap/tact/comp/data_reiseb|ro.zip'
 to internal encoding.
 Consider rerunning with (for example) '--encoding=latin1'
 
 I know that there is a | in the filename, because it's a 
 german symbol. I tried cp850, and UTF-8 as encodings, but it 
 doesnt work.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
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