Re: Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-19 Thread Robert Koster
So, one of the pros of this approach is that it is more secure than the :pserver 
method, because the passwords are being transmitted over ssh?  One of the cons is 
that the password will need to be entered frequently?


 Greg A. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16 2:20 PM 
[ On Friday, November 15, 2002 at 22:20:39 (-0800), Mike Ayers wrote: ]
 Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh

 Robert Koster wrote:
 
  I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without
   keys).  Pros/cons?
 
   Con:  this isn't possible.  ssh operating without keys will forcibly 
 invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client.

Huh?  I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my
client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it

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Re: Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-19 Thread Kenneth Loafman
No.  You can set up the CVS server and the client side with passwordless 
access via RSH keys.  It's in the SSH docs.  That way you never have to 
enter a password after SSH is set up.

...Ken

Robert Koster wrote:
So, one of the pros of this approach is that it is more secure than the :pserver method, because the passwords are being transmitted over ssh?  One of the cons is that the password will need to be entered frequently?




Greg A. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16 2:20 PM 



[ On Friday, November 15, 2002 at 22:20:39 (-0800), Mike Ayers wrote: ]


Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh

Robert Koster wrote:



I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without


 keys).  Pros/cons?

	Con:  this isn't possible.  ssh operating without keys will forcibly 
invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client.


Huh?  I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my
client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it







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Re: Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-19 Thread Jenn Vesperman
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 00:25, Robert Koster wrote:

   I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without
keys).  Pros/cons?
  
  Con:  this isn't possible.  ssh operating without keys will forcibly 
  invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client.
 
 Huh?  I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my
 client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it

Apparently some of the graphic clients don't understand the password
prompt. The command line client is fine, though.



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Re: Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-19 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 08:25:45 (-0500), Robert Koster wrote: ]
 Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh

 So, one of the pros of this approach is that it is more secure than
 the :pserver method, because the passwords are being transmitted over
 ssh?

The password encapsulation and obfuscation is really only a small part
of the whole transport layer security issue.  TCP is not secure (in any
meaning of that word), at least not alone over plain old IPv4.

Even the transport security is only a small part of the whole CVS
security issue.  CVS is not designed or implemented to be a security
tool -- it's at the level of /bin/ed in security terms, not /bin/login.
With CVSpserver there's lots of opportunity for one user to spoof
another -- i.e. there's _NO_ accountability in pserver.

  One of the cons is that the password will need to be entered
 frequently?

SSH can be configured to use any of many forms of authentication.
There's no fundamental need to ever type passwords to it when it's used
as a remote job execution facility for CVS.

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Re: Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-16 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, November 15, 2002 at 22:20:39 (-0800), Mike Ayers wrote: ]
 Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh

 Robert Koster wrote:
 
  I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without
   keys).  Pros/cons?
 
   Con:  this isn't possible.  ssh operating without keys will forcibly 
 invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client.

Huh?  I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my
client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it

-- 
Greg A. Woods

+1 416 218-0098;[EMAIL PROTECTED];   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Planix, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; VE3TCP; Secrets of the Weird [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-16 Thread Mike Ayers
Greg A. Woods wrote:

[ On Friday, November 15, 2002 at 22:20:39 (-0800), Mike Ayers wrote: ]


Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh

Robert Koster wrote:



I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without


 keys).  Pros/cons?

	Con:  this isn't possible.  ssh operating without keys will forcibly 
invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client.


Huh?  I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my
client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it



	Hmmm.  thinking back, that problem occurs on WinCVS.  It may be that 
the command line client behaves correctly.  I need to get my lab 
rebuilt and test these things first.


/|/|ike




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Re: Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-15 Thread Mike Ayers
Robert Koster wrote:


I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without

 keys).  Pros/cons?

	Con:  this isn't possible.  ssh operating without keys will forcibly 
invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client.


/|/|ike




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Newbie question re: ssh

2002-11-13 Thread Robert Koster
I am very new to cvs.

I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without keys).  Pros/cons?

Also, is anybody using CVS in the Sun One Studio (formerly Forte for Java) IDE?  Any 
special considerations, helpful hints, words of wisdom, etc.?

Thanks,
Bob




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