RE: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

2002-10-29 Thread Rob Piepul
 Dror == info-cvs-admin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Dror Hi,=20 I think I need to clarify myself a little, what am I
Dror looking for is not a Visual Studio (.NET) plugin for CVS.
Dror My team is working on an Intranet project and using Visual
Dror Studio .NET.  While we where looking at the source directory
Dror in order to decide what goes to the repository and what
Dror should be left outside (local files created by the VS) we
Dror noticed a large number of files that we could not decide
Dror their purpose or the effect of managing them in the
Dror repository.  I'm looking for someone who has succeeded in
Dror managing such project with CVS.=20 Thanks, Dror

Hi,
In addition to source code and header files, I only manage the .sln
and .vcproj files.  These, of course, are text files. The solutions
and projects build the same way every time. Depending on your apps,
the .config files may also need to be managed in cvs.

HTH,
Rob


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RE: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

2002-10-28 Thread Dror Braznitzki
Title: RE: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS





Hi, 
I think I need to clarify myself a little, what am I looking for is not a Visual Studio (.NET) plugin for CVS.
My team is working on an Intranet project and using Visual Studio .NET. While we where looking at the source directory
in order to decide what goes to the repository and what should be left outside (local files created by the VS) we noticed
a large number of files that we could not decide their purpose or the effect of managing them in the repository.
I'm looking for someone who has succeeded in managing such project with CVS. 
Thanks,
Dror


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Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:04 PM
To: Dror Braznitzki
Subject: RE: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

igloo 

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Subject: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

Hi,
Has anyone managed to manage a Visual Studio .NET project using CVS ?
There are so many files that I have no idea if to put in the ignore list or not.
Any help will be very appreciated.
10X,
Dror 


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RE: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

2002-10-28 Thread Shankar Unni
Dror Braznitzki wrote:

 [...] decide what goes to the repository and what 
 should be left outside (local files created by the VS)

Not terribly familiar with recent revisions of Visual C++, but in
previous versions (e.g. 5.0 and 6.0), there were really only two files
that needed to be checked in (the project and workspace files -
foo.dsp and foo.dsw).

Everything else was generated (*.ncb, which was the static analysis
database for symbol browsing, *.pdb which was the program database,
*.pch, which was the precompiled header database, etc.).


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Subject: RE: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS


Hi, 
I think I need to clarify myself a little, what am I looking for is not
a Visual Studio (.NET) plugin for CVS.
My team is working on an Intranet project and using Visual Studio .NET.
While we where looking at the source directory
in order to decide what goes to the repository and what should be left
outside (local files created by the VS) we noticed
a large number of files that we could not decide their purpose or the
effect of managing them in the repository.
I'm looking for someone who has succeeded in managing such project with
CVS. 
Thanks,
Dror 
-Original Message-
From: Oliver Marx [mailto:oliver;tekk.dk]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:04 PM
To: Dror Braznitzki
Subject: RE: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

igloo 
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Dror Braznitzki
Sent: 27. oktober 2002 18:02
To: Info CVS at GNU (E-mail)
Subject: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

Hi,
Has anyone managed to manage a Visual Studio .NET project using CVS ?
There are so many files that I have no idea if to put in the ignore list
or not.
Any help will be very appreciated.
10X,
Dror 


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Re: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

2002-10-28 Thread Kaz Kylheku
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Dror Braznitzki wrote:

  Hi, 
  I think I need to clarify myself a little, what am I looking for is not a
  Visual Studio (.NET) plugin for CVS. 
  My team is working on an Intranet project and using Visual Studio .NET.
  While we where looking at the source directory
  in order to decide what goes to the repository and what should be left
  outside (local files created by the VS) we noticed
  a large number of files that we could not decide their purpose or the
  effect of managing them in the repository. 

Knowing what files are primary objects that should be version
controlled is a Visual .NET problem, not a CVS problem. It's your
responsibility to understand the development tool you are using,
and know what all the .dsw, .opt, .ncb, .aps and whatever files mean.



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Re: Visual Studio .NET projects and CVS

2002-10-28 Thread Mike Ayers
Kaz Kylheku wrote:


Knowing what files are primary objects that should be version
controlled is a Visual .NET problem, not a CVS problem. It's your
responsibility to understand the development tool you are using,
and know what all the .dsw, .opt, .ncb, .aps and whatever files mean.


	So that means no asking for help?  Sheesh!  If you want to just jump 
somebody's case, do it for something legitimate, like sending HTML 
email to a mailing list.

	I have successfully rebuilt Visual projects with nothing more than 
a *.dsp or *.dsw file, as of Visual Studio 6, but have not tried with 
.NET.  I have also archived all the files, and that worked fine, too.

	My general rules for archiving projects from development environments 
that produce mystery files:

	1)  Examine each file with a text editor.  Do NOT use a text editor 
that autosaves to the original file.  Do NOT use a text editor   that 
cannot handle binary data.  I use emacs and never have a problem.  It 
should be immediately obvious if this is a binary file.  If so, add it 
as binary.

	2)  Add the remaining files as text individually.  If CVS feels that 
the file may be binary, abort the add and add it as Unicode.  This is 
especially relevant for Microsoft-on-Microsoft development systems 
such as the Visual line.

	3)  If you are working in a read-only-by-default configuration, do 
`cvs edit` on all such files.

	4)  Just do your work as usual, and check in all the changed files as 
updates before doing any reference tags.


	This methodology has a few niceties:

	1)  You need know nothing about which files are what.

	2)  If you need to go back to a certain tag, your development 
environment will go back with you (sometimes this may not be so good).

	3)  You can highly customize the development environment, using 
branches to develop features, and get the customizations for each branch.

	Of course, you need to trade off the value to your team of these 
niceties with the cost of archiving them before deciding which you 
would like to do.


	HTH,

/|/|ike




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