Re: sieve proxy

2006-05-24 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 18:17 +0200, Rudy Gevaert wrote:
 Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
 Thanks for you reply.  We are not going to use Murder.  We are going to 
 use IMP and the Horde framework for Webmail.  We could hack it the same 
 way.
 
 However how do you resolve the ussues for non webmail clients?  (Or 
 aren't there any gui sieve clients?)

non-webmail users are told how to look up the backend in LDAP :-)
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Re: Cyrus IMAPd 2.3.4 Released

2006-05-24 Thread Rudy Gevaert

Ken Murchison wrote:

Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:


Hi,


On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:38:12 -0400
Ken Murchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:




May 24 01:03:55 ameno lmtpunix[37779]: accepted connection
May 24 01:03:55 ameno lmtpunix[37779]: lmtp connection preauth'd 
as postman
May 24 01:03:55 ameno lmtpunix[37779]: verify_user(user.ume) 
failed: Mailbox has an invalid format


And, my MUA complains to cannot find %INBOX.



murch If you reconstruct the mailbox, do the problems go away?

Yes, it fixed the problem.  Thank you.

However, when I update an index from my MUA, new messages don't appear
in the index at all.  I'm sure there are new messages in my mailbox,
though.
I downgraded to 2.3.3, then the new messages appeared in the index of
my MUA.
Any idea?



Not off the top of my head.  I'll look into this tomorrow.


I have the same problem.  I didn't reconstruct my mailboxes, but I guess 
it will be fixed if I do.


Because I haven't yet configured lmtp to deliver to my cyrus 
installation I have only tested this with an imap client.  If I move an 
email to my test imap account the message doesn't show up.  If I then 
start the 2.3.3 cyrus the messages show up.


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Re: Replication specifics

2006-05-24 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 17:16 -0400, Patrick Radtke wrote:
 On May 23, 2006, at 4:48 PM, David Korpiewski wrote:
  that currently only exists on the defunct master?   If the replica  
  updates every 10 seconds, then we have the potential to lose 10  
  seconds of email.   Or worse case, the sync_client dies and we lose  
  30 minutes or more of emails before we failover!
 
 Once we have the primary/master backend machine working again after a  
 failover (assuming its RAID is still intact) we do a find for any  
 messages that have timestamps just prior to the the machine failing.
 We then compare this list to the messages on the replica.  Since we  
 have delayed expunge on, we can still determine if a specific message  
 was replicated even if the user deleted it.

we use a different approach: our MTA (Exim) delivers a copy to a
separate server which has a very simple configuration, no LDAP lookups
to verify addresses or anything, it just stores the messages as batched
SMTP, one file per user and day.  if anything goes awry, we can replay
(parts of) this file and redeliver the messages.  in most cases, we do
this to supplement the tape backup when users delete all their e-mail by
mistake, and in that case we need to reset Cyrus' duplication database,
or else the messages will be dropped on the floor.  in the incomplete
replica scenario, however, the duplication database will actually help
us avoid duplicating e-mail from the period of the crash.

(we don't use Murder or replication yet, so such replica restoration
hasn't been tried for real.)
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Re: Removing quota (was: Re: quota problems on cyrus imapd 2.2.12)

2006-05-24 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn
--On 24. Mai 2006 10:13:08 +0800 Murray Trainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Using cyradm, use sq mailbox none.

Hope that solves your problem,
Baltsar


Thanks for the reply.  The above worked on user.mailbox but they have
lots of sub-folders.  Is there any way to do this without scripting?


Quotas aren't applied to mailboxes, but to quota roots. For the most part 
that means all folders or mailboxes of a user. So you're set.

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Re: Imap slow opening folder

2006-05-24 Thread lst_hoe01

Zitat von Davide Pasquale [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi all!

I have a setup where Cyrus-Imap 2.1.15, Cyrus-Sasl 2.1.15,  Sendmail 8.13
is installed on an  HPUX Itanium server. I use with success Saslauthd that
authenticate users over an openldap linux RH3 server using pam modules.
All is fine user can login and receive emails from Sendmail with no delay
but I have only one issue, when users open their imap folders for the first
time  (using webmail or thunderbird) the response from the server is affcted
by a delay of over 15 sec also with no messages in the folders.  After this
time is elapsed all is extremely fast!

Can you help me?

Excuse for my english and thanks.



As far as i remember there are problems with mmap used by Cyrus on 
HP-UX. Search the archives for some workarounds or status of the 
problem.


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Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer

2006-05-24 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn

Hi,

--On 23. Mai 2006 19:24:15 -0800 Noah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well I want to get IMAP running on my FreeBSD box and would like to have a
safe, non service-interrupting strategy to implementing it.  I am leaning
toward installing cyrus imapd.  I have some questions about how to get
things working.

1)  Can somebody please recommend a good FAQ about how-to get IMAP running
my FreeBSD machine?
2)  Are there things I should be aware of before I start the process?
3)  I don’t completely understand how IMAP works – is there a good
tutorial about this subject?
4)  I don’t completely understand how local mail delivery will change
– is there a good tutorial about this subject?


not to discourage you, but IMAP in general and cyrus-imapd specifically 
aren't very easy to learn. To understand how IMAP works (and some outdated 
information about Cyrus) I recommend this book:


http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mimap/index.html

I also found this on O'Reilly's site:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/10/06/cyrus_imap.html

Anyway, IMHO you may be better off with a simpler IMAP server for starters. 
Check out UW-imapd and Dovecot. Don't bother with Courier, it's not a real 
IMAP server. Once you get the hang of things and feel you need the special 
advantages Cyrus offers, you can still check it out.

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./configure unclear

2006-05-24 Thread Rudy Gevaert

Hi,

I have some remarks and questions about ./configure --help

*) ./configure  --help says:

By default, `make install' will install all the files in
`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/lib' etc.  You can specify
an installation prefix other than `/usr/local' using `--prefix',
for instance `--prefix=$HOME'.

  This is not true :).  Cyrus installs here by default :

prefix = /usr/local
exec_prefix = ${prefix}
cyrus_prefix = /usr/cyrus

Some files get installed in /usr/cyrus/bin too.

*) --with-cyrus-prefix --prefix  --with-service-path

Now that are a lot of options and there explanation isn't that clear:

--with-cyrus-prefix=DIRuse DIR as cyrus server install directory
--with-service-path=DIRuse DIR as service install directory
--prefix=PREFIX   install architecture-independent files in PREFIX
  [/usr/local]
--exec-prefix=EPREFIX   install architecture-dependent files in EPREFIX
  [PREFIX]


Changing --prefix doesn't change --with-cyrus-prefix .  I think it 
should be that if I change --prefix everything gets installed under 
--prefix.  I do not know why cyrus has the --with-cyrus-prefix option. 
So I can't say if it reasonable or not (Or that I'm unreasonable :).


To summerize, you have to run configure with --prefix and 
--with-cyrus-prefix if you want to make sure cyrus installs all files 
under a different directory.  In my case I (want to) install my cyrus 
under /usr/cyrus-version. And I then link /usr/cyrus to 
/usr/cyrus-version.  I then add /usr/cyrus/man then to my man path.  So 
no mather what cyrus version is running I always get the right man pages.


Maybe the help message should be made more clearer?



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2.3.4 working with 2.2.13 and 2.3.3 ???

2006-05-24 Thread Mike
I added a new 2.3.4 server to my murder setup, from scratch.

The servers in the murder are running 2.2.13 and 2.3.3.

When i added a new server with v2.3.4 create mailboxes works fine.
But when i want to read mail or delete mail i get strange errors.

### Delete mail
ERROR: Bad or malformed request.
Query: COPY Trash
Server responded: Invalid sequence in Uid
###

### Read mail
ERROR: Could not complete request.
Unknown response from IMAP server: 1.
###

I have no quota, no replication, nothing strange in my setup.
The errors are only on mailboxes on the 2.3.4 server.

All delivered mail looks like Unknown date in squirellmail but in the
mailspool the mail are correct as on the 2.2.13,2.3.3 servers that works
fine.

So are there any problems to set up a 2.3.4 server to the existing murder
enviroment or must i uppgrade all my servers to 2.3.4?

There are nothing strange in any log on any server and all permissins are
correctly.


PS, all the problems came when i tried to upgrade a frontend to 2.3.4, i
couldn't delete mail, same errors as above.

When i downgraded to 2.3.3 and/or 2.2.13 it works again..!!??

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Re: 2.3.4 working with 2.2.13 and 2.3.3 ???

2006-05-24 Thread Rudy Gevaert

Mike wrote:


I added a new 2.3.4 server to my murder setup, from scratch.

The servers in the murder are running 2.2.13 and 2.3.3.

When i added a new server with v2.3.4 create mailboxes works fine.
But when i want to read mail or delete mail i get strange errors.

 


Have a look at the following thread from the day before today.
Cyrus IMAPd 2.3.4 Released



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lmtpproxyd reappears in 2.3.4

2006-05-24 Thread Simon Matter
While trying to build updated rpms of 2.3.4 I found the lmtpproxyd is now
created as a hardlink to lmtpd. The same applies to pop3proxyd which is
linked to pop3d. In the past the rpm shipped without the hardlinked
pop3proxyd because it was not really used. My question is now what is the
correct way to handle those links. Is there a good reason to include them
in the package or are they just there for those using old config files?

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Re: lmtpproxyd reappears in 2.3.4

2006-05-24 Thread Simon Matter
 On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 11:40 +0200, Simon Matter wrote:
 While trying to build updated rpms of 2.3.4 I found the lmtpproxyd is
 now
 created as a hardlink to lmtpd. The same applies to pop3proxyd which is
 linked to pop3d. In the past the rpm shipped without the hardlinked
 pop3proxyd because it was not really used. My question is now what is
 the
 correct way to handle those links. Is there a good reason to include
 them
 in the package or are they just there for those using old config files?

 As of 2.3.3 proxy functionality was incorporated into daemons.
 As of 2.3.3 you don't need separate frontends and backends -
 same daemon can serve or proxy depend whether it has mailbox locally
 or not.

I understand that, however lmtpproxyd didn't exist in 2.3.x until 2.3.4.
It was there in 2.2 but not in 2.3 until now. Why did they appear now, did
nobody need them in 2.3.3? So my question is, do those binaries act
different depending on how they were called? If that's the case then the
rpms should also ship with the hardlinked files.

Simon

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Re: lmtpproxyd reappears in 2.3.4

2006-05-24 Thread Mirosław Jaworski
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 11:40 +0200, Simon Matter wrote:
 While trying to build updated rpms of 2.3.4 I found the lmtpproxyd is now
 created as a hardlink to lmtpd. The same applies to pop3proxyd which is
 linked to pop3d. In the past the rpm shipped without the hardlinked
 pop3proxyd because it was not really used. My question is now what is the
 correct way to handle those links. Is there a good reason to include them
 in the package or are they just there for those using old config files?

As of 2.3.3 proxy functionality was incorporated into daemons.
As of 2.3.3 you don't need separate frontends and backends - 
same daemon can serve or proxy depend whether it has mailbox locally
or not.

M.

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Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer

2006-05-24 Thread Chris Hilts
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 Don't bother with Courier, it's not a real IMAP server.

It isn't?  Since when?

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Re: Implementing IMAP advice for first timer

2006-05-24 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 08:38 -0400, Chris Hilts wrote:
 Sebastian Hagedorn wrote:
 
  Don't bother with Courier, it's not a real IMAP server.
 
 It isn't?  Since when?

since the author started claiming the RFC is wrong, and Courier is
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Re: Cyrus IMAPd 2.3.4 Released

2006-05-24 Thread Ken Murchison

Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:

Hi,


On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:38:12 -0400
Ken Murchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:



May 24 01:03:55 ameno lmtpunix[37779]: accepted connection
May 24 01:03:55 ameno lmtpunix[37779]: lmtp connection preauth'd as postman
May 24 01:03:55 ameno lmtpunix[37779]: verify_user(user.ume) failed: 
Mailbox has an invalid format

And, my MUA complains to cannot find %INBOX.


murch If you reconstruct the mailbox, do the problems go away?

Yes, it fixed the problem.  Thank you.

However, when I update an index from my MUA, new messages don't appear
in the index at all.  I'm sure there are new messages in my mailbox,
though.
I downgraded to 2.3.3, then the new messages appeared in the index of
my MUA.
Any idea?


It looks like in my haste to make a release with the pop3d bugfix, it 
didn't do enough testing.  I'm seeing the same thing here,and I'm 
working on it.



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Cyrus IMAPd 2.3.5 Released

2006-05-24 Thread Ken Murchison

I am pleased to announce the release of Cyrus IMAPd 2.3.5.  This is a
BETA-quality release, reflecting that it has significant numbers of new
features that have not been tested on a wide-scale basis, although
earlier versions of this code have been running at several sites for
quite some time.

This release fixes a bug in 2.3.4 which caused new messages to not be 
displayed by clients.  My apologies to all of the early adopters that 
have been inconvenienced by this bug.  Mailboxes that had messages 
appended/delivered by 2.3.4 services will need to be reconstructed.


For full details, please see doc/changes.html and
doc/install-upgrade.html which are included in the distribution.

URLs for this release:
ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus/cyrus-imapd-2.3.5.tar.gz
or
http://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus/cyrus-imapd-2.3.5.tar.gz

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Re: lmtpproxyd reappears in 2.3.4

2006-05-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 24 May 2006, Simon Matter wrote:
 nobody need them in 2.3.3? So my question is, do those binaries act
 different depending on how they were called? If that's the case then the
 rpms should also ship with the hardlinked files.

I sure hope those hardlinks are just there to keep people happy. If they are
needed, something is wrong.  If the binaries are acting differently
depending on how they are called, this is an extremely bad idea IMHO (give
us a --proxy switch or somesuch, instead!).

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autocreate patch wrongly created?

2006-05-24 Thread Andreas Hasenack
The autocreate patch available at 
http://email.uoa.gr/download/cyrus/cyrus-imapd-2.3.3/ seems to be wrong, it's 
380Kbytes in size and adds some .orig files.

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newbie cyrus-imapd config

2006-05-24 Thread Noah
Hi,

okay I am trying to configure and implement cyrus-imapd 2.3.3 on my FreeBSD
machine.  I am looking for a good HOW-TO tutorial to get started.

This is what I came up with:

http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Cyrus-IMAP-7.html

Might there be other tutorials that explain things well.

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Can't locate object method reinit via package Pod::Man

2006-05-24 Thread Noah
freeBSD-4.11


I am finding that cyrus-imapd23 fails to build from FreeBSD /usr/ports . 
Clues please?

--- snip ---

Running Mkbootstrap for Cyrus::IMAP ()
chmod 644 IMAP.bs
rm -f blib/arch/auto/Cyrus/IMAP/IMAP.so
LD_RUN_PATH=/usr/local/lib cc  -shared  -L/usr/local/lib IMAP.o  -o
blib/arch/auto/Cyrus/IMAP/IMAP.so ../../lib/libcyrus.a
../../lib/libcyrus_min.a-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -ldb3
-L/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib -lsasl2 -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local/lib
-R/usr/local/lib -lssl -lcrypto  
chmod 755 blib/arch/auto/Cyrus/IMAP/IMAP.so
cp IMAP.bs blib/arch/auto/Cyrus/IMAP/IMAP.bs
chmod 644 blib/arch/auto/Cyrus/IMAP/IMAP.bs
cp cyradm blib/script/cyradm
/usr/local/bin/perl -MExtUtils::MY -e MY-fixin(shift) blib/script/cyradm
Manifying blib/man1/cyradm.1
Can't locate object method reinit via package Pod::Man at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Pod/Man.pm line 1218.
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/cyrus-imapd23/work/cyrus-imapd-2.3.3/perl/imap.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/cyrus-imapd23/work/cyrus-imapd-2.3.3/perl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/cyrus-imapd23/work/cyrus-imapd-2.3.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/cyrus-imapd23.


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