Webserver down?
Hi, I can't access the Cyrus Home Page or the WiKi. Is cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu down? Regards Michael Menge M.Menge Tel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universitaet Tuebingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Waechterstrasse 76 72074 Tuebingen Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: tuning cyrus?
And the integrity of the pst cache file might need checking. This is done by running "scanpst.exe", that is somewhere in the Office pgm directory. I have also seen some strange slowdowns using Cyrus and a damaged pst., mostly at first opening of Outlook. Deleting the pst file cache and allowing Outlook to recreate it is also a viable solution, provided you aren't on a slow link and have a large mailbox. A damaged "main" pst can also be the cause of slowdowns. This is the one that Tasks/Contacts etc reside in and would be the normal delivery point for POP3 mail. Both pst's by default reside in; C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook Another big trap with Outlook and IMAP is doing message searches. It only searches the cached data in the pst so you have to download the entire message set first. I'll admit I have only seen this in Outlook 2000, but assume it is the case for later versions. You may also want to do the registry change that downloads the full IMAP header set to the cache. (IMAPFullHeaders something) At the very least you then see both the To: and From: fields in the message list. Very important if you are using IMAP as a public folder like filing system. Also look into "Compacting" the pst file. I haven't done any testing on this but it seems to speed some Outlook operations. Apologies for waffling on! Cheers Bob Ciprian Marius Vizitiu wrote: must always remember that Outlook keeps a local copy of the headers in a PST file associated with that IMAP account. If that file resides on a badly fragmented FAT32 and/or the .pst file is approaching the 2GB limit "strange things start to happen". :-s Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
sieve and vacation?
I have sieve and smartsieve working and I'm pleased so far with
what's going on. I'm testing vacation by sending messages in to
my corporate email server from the outside. I currently have rules
(re-typed from my server, some rules not typed):
-
require fileinto;
require vacation;
# save the message
fileinto INBOX.backup;
if header :contains Subject test {
if address :contains [to,from,cc,bcc] [EMAIL PROTECTED] {
vacation :days 13 :subject I'm testing vacation I'm testing, ok?!;
keep;
}
}
if header :contains Subject *** SPAM *** {
fileinto INBOX.spam
} elsif header :contains Subject *** VIRUS {
fileinto INBOX.spam
} elsif header :contains Subject /usr/bin/fetchmail {
fileinto INBOX.spam
} elsif address :contains [to,from,cc,bcc] [EMAIL PROTECTED] {
fileinto INBOX.hobbit
} elsif address :contains [to,from,cc,bcc] [EMAIL PROTECTED] {
fileinto INBOX.hobbit
} else {
filengo INBOX
}
-
My intent is for the message with a subject containing test to be
replied to by the vacation rule, then to be further processed (to simulate
my users that have extensive rules filtering messages by external
customer, etc). The bottom set of rules work, but I never receive a reply
from vacation.
See something that's stopping this from working?
Mike
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logging sieve actions?
In procmail, which I'm migrating away from at the moment, I can cause procmail to log the 'From:', date, 'Subject:', and the folder a message is placed into. Is there a way to have sieve log the same data? I find the data is useful in tracking down messages users say are lost. Mike Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: logging sieve actions?
Hi, if you increse the loglevel of cyrus in your syslogd you will see what sieve did to a message, but cyrus will not log 'From:' or 'Subject:'. The 'From:' should be logged by your MTA, but the 'Subject:' will normaly not be logged. Michael Menge Quoting Mike Eggleston [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In procmail, which I'm migrating away from at the moment, I can cause procmail to log the 'From:', date, 'Subject:', and the folder a message is placed into. Is there a way to have sieve log the same data? I find the data is useful in tracking down messages users say are lost. Mike Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html M.Menge Tel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universitaet Tuebingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Waechterstrasse 76 72074 Tuebingen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME krytographische Unterschrift Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Spam and sieve vacation
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Janne Peltonen wrote: 5/week? Whee. We might achieve something remotely approaching that with personalized bayesian filtering (a multi-discipline, internationaly connected university receives quite a lot of ham that looks very much like spam, so we are a bit paranoid about false positives). Due to spam levels we have been disallowing vacation the last 4-5 years. This summer we made it possible for our users to enable an autoresponder. We use greylisting and spamassassin with bayesian filtering, and we are quite low on spam ending up in users inboxes, and also on false positives. We don't provide vacation via sieve though, we considered it not being the IMAP server that should send the answers. Instead we use a home-grown python script on a smtp server. Since may 73 people have actually used this service. During the last 12 weeks 17129 messages were not answered, of which 3002 had a spam level of 3 or more and 1103 messages would have been answered if they had come from inside addresses (our users can choose to answer only inside our domain). 2570 auto-replies were sent. Looking at the logs it seems that perhaps 25% of these replies should not have been sent and most of these can actually be caught with some more filters in the python script. That makes 200 backscatter messages a week for us this summer - probably worth it, and the filters can be improved. /skitta checking out rfc3834 right now - we seem to be fairly compliant :) -- Tomas 'Skitta' Lindroos. UNIX systems administrator, Åbo Akademi University, Computing Centre [EMAIL PROTECTED], +358-40-5177716 Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: sieve and vacation?
Hi, testing vacation scripts is alway a bit tricky. Cyrus will only send a vacation email to an adress if this address has not recieved an vacation messages from the user withhin ':days' days. You have to use an new email addres to test the vacation or delete the deliver.db. You must have an running MTA for your vacation message to be send out. Michael M.Menge Tel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universitaet Tuebingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Waechterstrasse 76 72074 Tuebingen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME krytographische Unterschrift Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
sieve and date
Following on to the sieve vacation discussion -- anyone have any interest in the sieve date extension? Sounds like it'd be awfully nice to have, for example, being able to wrap your vacation in a date- range conditional... -rob Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
can sieve script flag the whole thread?
Hello. I read the RFCs and documents I can find on the internet, it seems it's not possible for sieve to flag a thread. I need such an action that not only setflag the current email, but also any other emails in the same thread in the folder. This is useful to organize workflow in our business, each workflow is a discussion thread and if someone send an email to this thread with subject Done, the whole thread should be flagged or moved to another folder. Being able to setflag (or move messages) for a whole thread of discussion is vital to use sieve to help us organize email, otherwise we probably wouldn't put as much information in email and try develop a web application on our own. Can this be done? Help really appreciated. Best regards Zhang Weiwu Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: can sieve script flag the whole thread?
Hi, Sieve works during the process of delivery, it does not know about other emails that have been deliverd. So it is not possible with sieve, but maybe some MUA have the features you need. Quoting Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello. I read the RFCs and documents I can find on the internet, it seems it's not possible for sieve to flag a thread. I need such an action that not only setflag the current email, but also any other emails in the same thread in the folder. This is useful to organize workflow in our business, each workflow is a discussion thread and if someone send an email to this thread with subject Done, the whole thread should be flagged or moved to another folder. Being able to setflag (or move messages) for a whole thread of discussion is vital to use sieve to help us organize email, otherwise we probably wouldn't put as much information in email and try develop a web application on our own. Can this be done? Help really appreciated. Best regards Zhang Weiwu Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html M.Menge Tel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universitaet Tuebingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Waechterstrasse 76 72074 Tuebingen Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: sieve and vacation?
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Michael Menge might have said: Hi, testing vacation scripts is alway a bit tricky. Cyrus will only send a vacation email to an adress if this address has not recieved an vacation messages from the user withhin ':days' days. You have to use an new email addres to test the vacation or delete the deliver.db. You must have an running MTA for your vacation message to be send out. No worries on the MTA. Is there a way to remove items from deliver.db so I can test more often than once per day? Mike Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: can sieve script flag the whole thread?
Zhang Weiwu wrote: I read the RFCs and documents I can find on the internet, it seems it's not possible for sieve to flag a thread. I need such an action that not only setflag the current email, but also any other emails in the same thread in the folder. This is useful to organize workflow in our business, each workflow is a discussion thread and if someone send an email to this thread with subject Done, the whole thread should be flagged or moved to another folder. Being able to setflag (or move messages) for a whole thread of discussion is vital to use sieve to help us organize email, otherwise we probably wouldn't put as much information in email and try develop a web application on our own. Can this be done? Help really appreciated. It's an interesting idea, and I've often mused on leveraging IMAP features to form the core of a trouble ticket system. However, you're going to want to reevaluate the idea of having user-created email content trigger events. It's fine for categorization and even some types of merging, but setting a ticket's status should require an explicit action to avoid unpredictable or externally influenced results. You will also get better compatibility among different clients if you try to preserve the Subject header as much as possible. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: can sieve script flag the whole thread?
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Jorey Bump might have said: Zhang Weiwu wrote: I read the RFCs and documents I can find on the internet, it seems it's not possible for sieve to flag a thread. I need such an action that not only setflag the current email, but also any other emails in the same thread in the folder. This is useful to organize workflow in our business, each workflow is a discussion thread and if someone send an email to this thread with subject Done, the whole thread should be flagged or moved to another folder. Being able to setflag (or move messages) for a whole thread of discussion is vital to use sieve to help us organize email, otherwise we probably wouldn't put as much information in email and try develop a web application on our own. Can this be done? Help really appreciated. It's an interesting idea, and I've often mused on leveraging IMAP features to form the core of a trouble ticket system. However, you're going to want to reevaluate the idea of having user-created email content trigger events. It's fine for categorization and even some types of merging, but setting a ticket's status should require an explicit action to avoid unpredictable or externally influenced results. You will also get better compatibility among different clients if you try to preserve the Subject header as much as possible. Have a look at gnats. Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: sieve and vacation?
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Michael Menge might have said: Hi, You can dump the contens of the deliver.db to an textfile and recreat it, but this is not needed at all. The deliver.db is used for two things. 1. First suspress dublicated delivery of emails and 2. remember to which email adress an vacation message has ben send. deleting deliver.db would result in the following 1. the user could receve an email a second time in some rare cases if you MTA recieves the same massage because of an loop. 2. an user would recieve an vacation message befor the ':days' days Since 1 is not a problem and 2 is what you whant, you can delete deliver.db after every testemail Quoting Mike Eggleston [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Michael Menge might have said: Hi, testing vacation scripts is alway a bit tricky. Cyrus will only send a vacation email to an adress if this address has not recieved an vacation messages from the user withhin ':days' days. You have to use an new email addres to test the vacation or delete the deliver.db. You must have an running MTA for your vacation message to be send out. No worries on the MTA. Is there a way to remove items from deliver.db so I can test more often than once per day? Mike Can I delete deliver.db while cyrus is running or must I stop the server, delete the file, then start the server again? Mike Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
