[OT] offline mail user and syncing
hi all, i have a rather peculiar case involving an offline user, who has no possibility of internet given his location (satellite is too expensive). there is power, and he has computer, and there is a proxy -- i.e. someone who passes once a day in the late afternoon, and picks up a usb key and takes it back into town to send contents as e-mails. ideally, the proxy's computer would somehow sync with the usb disk, as well as the user's. has anyone dealt with something similar? with my sincerest thanks m Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:34 +0100, Andy Bennett wrote: Hi, i have a rather peculiar case involving an offline user, who has no possibility of internet given his location (satellite is too expensive). there is power, and he has computer, and there is a proxy -- i.e. someone who passes once a day in the late afternoon, and picks up a usb key and takes it back into town to send contents as e-mails. ideally, the proxy's computer would somehow sync with the usb disk, as well as the user's. has anyone dealt with something similar? with my sincerest thanks How about moving a UUCP spool on the USB stick? ;-) You could use something like rsync on incoming and outgoing folder. Is it just for eMail? What format are the messages in? hi andy, the user is running windows, and has a preference for using lookout. i suppose that i could ask that he run thunderbird instead -- lookout uses a single file pst, so concurrency is really difficult unless the pst file is not the main/default one. at least thunderbird uses file based message store, but alas, windblows doesn't run rsync (iirc). maybe a secondary pst is the solution ... user would have drag all the contents from secondary pst to primary pst. whatta drag! thanks m Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 08:30 +0200, mayak-cq wrote: hi all, i have a rather peculiar case involving an offline user, who has no possibility of internet given his location (satellite is too expensive). there is power, and he has computer, and there is a proxy -- i.e. someone who passes once a day in the late afternoon, and picks up a usb key and takes it back into town to send contents as e-mails. ideally, the proxy's computer would somehow sync with the usb disk, as well as the user's. has anyone dealt with something similar? Yes; this is a case for UUCP. If the user is using an inferior operating system you'll need a second box; all that box has to do is deliver mail [from the card] to a mailbox that the user can then download from via POP. The MTA on that box should be able to queue mail easily enough. I'm not away of any client-side store-and-forward solutions for Windows. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:56 +0200, mayak-cq wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:34 +0100, Andy Bennett wrote: i have a rather peculiar case involving an offline user, who has no possibility of internet given his location (satellite is too expensive). there is power, and he has computer, and there is a proxy -- i.e. someone who passes once a day in the late afternoon, and picks up a usb key and takes it back into town to send contents as e-mails. ideally, the proxy's computer would somehow sync with the usb disk, as well as the user's. has anyone dealt with something similar? with my sincerest thanks How about moving a UUCP spool on the USB stick? ;-) You could use something like rsync on incoming and outgoing folder. Is it just for eMail? What format are the messages in? the user is running windows, and has a preference for using lookout. i suppose that i could ask that he run thunderbird instead -- lookout uses a single file pst, so concurrency is really difficult unless the pst file is not the main/default one. at least thunderbird uses file based message store, but alas, windblows doesn't run rsync (iirc). maybe a secondary pst is the solution ... user would have drag all the contents from secondary pst to primary pst. whatta drag! rsync is useless for this use-case. The PST is just a single binary BLOB. I don't believe it would solve the issue for TB either; just swapping out file contents underneath applications leads to an entire host of issues [cache coherency, etc...]. You need to find an 'intelligent' solution; such as UUCP store-and-forward that 'understands' the message level unit-of-work. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 20:03 -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: Hello, I have a mail server that we use cyrus-imap for. It works well enough. Stock package for RHEL 5 (cyrus-imapd-2.3.7-7.el5_4.3). Likely somewhat old. But it certainly worked at that version. In anycase we've used sieve for server side filtering and it has worked well for years. We have a couple users however that would like to use the 'Vacation'/'Auto responding' features. The add the rule, however no auto response is ever attempted. There are no errors in the log, nada. What SIEVE client are you using to generate the vacation script? In several clients you have to include *target* addresses that when a message is received should generate a response [this is the vacation user's addresses]. Users very commonly neglect that value. I spent a few hours trying to get something but never did. Can anyone suggest what I should be doing to see why it isn't working? Any gotcha's or other pointers? [Internet Search] has turned up many people with similar problems, but no answers. Probably the lovely people who ask questions but can never be bothered to post their solutions. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 06:28 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:56 +0200, mayak-cq wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:34 +0100, Andy Bennett wrote: i have a rather peculiar case involving an offline user, who has no possibility of internet given his location (satellite is too expensive). there is power, and he has computer, and there is a proxy -- i.e. someone who passes once a day in the late afternoon, and picks up a usb key and takes it back into town to send contents as e-mails. ideally, the proxy's computer would somehow sync with the usb disk, as well as the user's. has anyone dealt with something similar? with my sincerest thanks How about moving a UUCP spool on the USB stick? ;-) You could use something like rsync on incoming and outgoing folder. Is it just for eMail? What format are the messages in? the user is running windows, and has a preference for using lookout. i suppose that i could ask that he run thunderbird instead -- lookout uses a single file pst, so concurrency is really difficult unless the pst file is not the main/default one. at least thunderbird uses file based message store, but alas, windblows doesn't run rsync (iirc). maybe a secondary pst is the solution ... user would have drag all the contents from secondary pst to primary pst. whatta drag! rsync is useless for this use-case. The PST is just a single binary BLOB. I don't believe it would solve the issue for TB either; just swapping out file contents underneath applications leads to an entire host of issues [cache coherency, etc...]. You need to find an 'intelligent' solution; such as UUCP store-and-forward that 'understands' the message level unit-of-work. thanks everyone for the help :-) regrettably, both the proxy and the user are technically weak, and are only windows fluent. i'm going to take a look at some connectors (bynari and so forth) to see if i can sync the message store to the usb disk. if it works, it would be more simplistic and clean. my thought about thunderbird and rsync may be possible as well -- thunderbird stores messages in files and would therefore be a candidate for rsync ... will report back thanks m Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 07:39:48AM +0200, Simon Matter wrote: To start, you may want to post your imapd.conf here and an example sieve script used for vacations. Find a message that should have triggered a vacation response. Check the envelope recipient and header recipient of this message. They must match to trigger vacation. -- -Gary Mills--Unix Group--Computer and Network Services- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
Hi, Quoting Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca: Hello, I have a mail server that we use cyrus-imap for. It works well enough. Stock package for RHEL 5 (cyrus-imapd-2.3.7-7.el5_4.3). Likely somewhat old. In anycase we've used sieve for server side filtering and it has worked well for years. We have a couple users however that would like to use the 'Vacation'/'Auto responding' features. The add the rule, however no auto response is ever attempted. There are no errors in the log, nada. I spent a few hours trying to get something but never did. Can anyone suggest what I should be doing to see why it isn't working? Any gotcha's or other pointers? Google has turned up many people with similar problems, but no answers. I could really use a hand with how to debug/track this down. Configuring and debuging Vacation is a bit tricky. First you need to make sure cyrus is able to send emails. Do forwarding rules work for you? Second you need to add vacation to sieve_extensions in imapd.conf. and the script must contain a require vacation line at the beginning. Third, there are some measures to prevent mailloops and other not intended vacationmails. So to test you have to use different senderaddresses or delete the delivery DB for each try, and you have to configure the addresses of the recipient in the vacation rule. Hope that helps to debug the problem. Regards Michael Thanks, -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ M.MengeTel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universität Tübingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum für Datenverarbeitung mail: michael.me...@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Wächterstraße 76 72074 Tübingen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Signatur Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Upgrading from 2.3 to til 2.4
Recently I upgraded a moderately busy Cyrus imap from 2.3.x to 2.4.7 I used one of the excellent rpms by Simon Matter and everything went smoothly until the upgrade went live: New mail arrived at once and this triggered an index upgrade, the log contains lines like Index upgrade: user.xyz (10 - 12) Upgrading the index takes some time, in the meantime sendmail delivers more mail, the load soars as index upgrades are run in parallell and sendmail eventually effectively stops processing mail. Later as a number of index upgrades finishes the load drops, sendmail revives and the whole cycle restarts. Running a reconstruct on user.% before allowing in new mail, after the upgrade, seems to be a better and more orderly option than allowing sendmail to do the job? BTW: What happened to the rpms published by Simon Matter? Nothing to be found at http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/cyrus-imapd/ recently. -psi Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Upgrading from 2.3 to til 2.4
BTW: What happened to the rpms published by Simon Matter? Nothing to be found at http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/cyrus-imapd/ recently. -psi Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ http://www.invoca.ch/pub/packages/cyrus-imapd/pkg/ils-5/SRPMS/ This seems pretty recent. C. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On 05/09/2011 11:39 PM, Simon Matter wrote: Hello, I have a mail server that we use cyrus-imap for. It works well enough. Stock package for RHEL 5 (cyrus-imapd-2.3.7-7.el5_4.3). Likely somewhat old. In anycase we've used sieve for server side filtering and it has worked well for years. We have a couple users however that would like to use the 'Vacation'/'Auto responding' features. The add the rule, however no auto response is ever attempted. There are no errors in the log, nada. I spent a few hours trying to get something but never did. Can anyone suggest what I should be doing to see why it isn't working? Any gotcha's or other pointers? Google has turned up many people with similar problems, but no answers. I could really use a hand with how to debug/track this down. To start, you may want to post your imapd.conf here and an example sieve script used for vacations. imapd.conf: configdirectory: /var/lib/imap partition-default: /var/spool/imap admins: cyrus sievedir: /var/lib/imap/sieve sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail hashimapspool: true pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_mech_list: PLAIN tls_cert_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd.pem tls_key_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd.pem tls_ca_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd.pem #tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt postmaster: postmaster allowanonymouslogin: no allowplaintext: yes servername: titanium.nobletdesign.com reject8bit: no quotawarn: 80 timeout: 30 poptimeout: 10 sieve_maxscriptsize: 32 sieve_maxscripts: 5 unixhierarchysep: yes sieve: # Sieve Filter # Generated by Ingo (http://www.horde.org/ingo/) (May 2, 2011, 11:06 am) require vacation; # Vacation vacation :days 0 :addresses t...@greatexcursions.com :subject Out of Office Hello? Auto responder.; -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On 05/10/2011 07:24 AM, Michael Menge wrote: Hi, Quoting Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca: Hello, I have a mail server that we use cyrus-imap for. It works well enough. Stock package for RHEL 5 (cyrus-imapd-2.3.7-7.el5_4.3). Likely somewhat old. In anycase we've used sieve for server side filtering and it has worked well for years. We have a couple users however that would like to use the 'Vacation'/'Auto responding' features. The add the rule, however no auto response is ever attempted. There are no errors in the log, nada. I spent a few hours trying to get something but never did. Can anyone suggest what I should be doing to see why it isn't working? Any gotcha's or other pointers? Google has turned up many people with similar problems, but no answers. I could really use a hand with how to debug/track this down. Configuring and debuging Vacation is a bit tricky. First you need to make sure cyrus is able to send emails. Do forwarding rules work for you? They do yes. Second you need to add vacation to sieve_extensions in imapd.conf. and the script must contain a require vacation line at the beginning. Hmm that's new. I had seen things about require vacation in the sieve script (which is present). However looking at a list of files installed as part of the cyrus-imapd package I see nothing about vacation. Looking at the man page I see that that is necessary now. Third, there are some measures to prevent mailloops and other not intended vacationmails. So to test you have to use different senderaddresses or delete the delivery DB for each try, and you have to configure the addresses of the recipient in the vacation rule. I've added it restarted cyrus and sent mail from a different account than my previous test. Hope that helps to debug the problem. It has definitely given me some more info to look at I was previously unaware of. Thanks! -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On 05/10/2011 09:10 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 05/10/2011 07:24 AM, Michael Menge wrote: Third, there are some measures to prevent mailloops and other not intended vacationmails. So to test you have to use different senderaddresses or delete the delivery DB for each try, and you have to configure the addresses of the recipient in the vacation rule. What if I want every email to get an autoresponse? The following is the script being tested. require vacation; # Vacation vacation :days 0 :addresses t...@greatexcursions.com :subject Out of Office Hello? Auto responder.; I've added it restarted cyrus and sent mail from a different account than my previous test. Unfortunately it has been delivered, and no vacation message was sent. :( Any additional ideas? -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
Hi, Quoting Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca: On 05/09/2011 11:39 PM, Simon Matter wrote: Hello, I have a mail server that we use cyrus-imap for. It works well enough. Stock package for RHEL 5 (cyrus-imapd-2.3.7-7.el5_4.3). Likely somewhat old. In anycase we've used sieve for server side filtering and it has worked well for years. We have a couple users however that would like to use the 'Vacation'/'Auto responding' features. The add the rule, however no auto response is ever attempted. There are no errors in the log, nada. I spent a few hours trying to get something but never did. Can anyone suggest what I should be doing to see why it isn't working? Any gotcha's or other pointers? Google has turned up many people with similar problems, but no answers. I could really use a hand with how to debug/track this down. To start, you may want to post your imapd.conf here and an example sieve script used for vacations. imapd.conf: configdirectory: /var/lib/imap partition-default: /var/spool/imap admins: cyrus sievedir: /var/lib/imap/sieve sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail hashimapspool: true pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_mech_list: PLAIN tls_cert_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd.pem tls_key_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd.pem tls_ca_file: /etc/pki/cyrus-imapd/cyrus-imapd.pem #tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt postmaster: postmaster allowanonymouslogin: no allowplaintext: yes servername: titanium.nobletdesign.com reject8bit: no quotawarn: 80 timeout: 30 poptimeout: 10 sieve_maxscriptsize: 32 sieve_maxscripts: 5 unixhierarchysep: yes you may need to set sieve_extensions sieve: # Sieve Filter # Generated by Ingo (http://www.horde.org/ingo/) (May 2, 2011, 11:06 am) require vacation; # Vacation vacation :days 0 :addresses t...@greatexcursions.com :subject Out of Office Hello? Auto responder.; IMHO :days 0 is not allowed/ignored M.MengeTel.: (49) 7071/29-70316 Universität Tübingen Fax.: (49) 7071/29-5912 Zentrum für Datenverarbeitung mail: michael.me...@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Wächterstraße 76 72074 Tübingen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Signatur Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On 05/10/2011 09:21 AM, Michael Menge wrote: you may need to set sieve_extensions Yeah, another list member suggested the same, which I've added but still no response. IMHO :days 0 is not allowed/ignored Ok, I've set it to 1. However then I need to delete the deliver.db between attempts. Do I need to stop/restart or otherwise touch running cyrus imap processes when I delete the deliver.db? Meaning, do I stop cyrus, then delete deliver.db, then start it. Or can I simply delete it out from under a running cyrus-imap system? -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 08:59:48AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 05/10/2011 06:17 AM, Gary Mills wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 07:39:48AM +0200, Simon Matter wrote: To start, you may want to post your imapd.conf here and an example sieve script used for vacations. Find a message that should have triggered a vacation response. Check the envelope recipient and header recipient of this message. They must match to trigger vacation. Sent from a google account. I sent the sieve script in a previous message. Return-Path: That's the envelope sender, used for error returns like non-delivery reports. Nothing will be sent to that one. I don't know if sieve vacation uses it, but it wouldn't work if it did. It may also be an indication of a message that should not receive a response. Received: from postman ([unix socket]) by titanium.nobletdesign.com (Cyrus v2.3.7-Invoca-RPM-2.3.7-7.el5_4.3) with LMTPA; Tue, 10 May 2011 09:57:50 -0500 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3 Received: from titanium.nobletdesign.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by titanium.nobletdesign.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93332F78069 for t...@greatexcursions.com; Tue, 10 May 2011 09:57:50 -0500 (CDT) That will be the envelope recipient. [...] Subject: TEsting auto responder From: Nathanael Noblet nathanaelnob...@gmail.com To: t...@greatexcursions.com That's the header recipient. They do match. -- -Gary Mills--Unix Group--Computer and Network Services- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On 05/10/2011 09:26 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 05/10/2011 09:21 AM, Michael Menge wrote: you may need to set sieve_extensions Yeah, another list member suggested the same, which I've added but still no response. IMHO :days 0 is not allowed/ignored Ok, I've set it to 1. However then I need to delete the deliver.db between attempts. Do I need to stop/restart or otherwise touch running cyrus imap processes when I delete the deliver.db? Meaning, do I stop cyrus, then delete deliver.db, then start it. Or can I simply delete it out from under a running cyrus-imap system? I stopped cyrus, deleted deliver.db and resent from the google test account. (With days == 1)... nothing came back, no messages in the logs. :( -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
--On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:43 -0600 Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote: IMHO :days 0 is not allowed/ignored Ok, I've set it to 1. Try 3. Joseph Brennan Columbia University Information Technology Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On 05/10/2011 09:46 AM, Joseph Brennan wrote: --On Tuesday, May 10, 2011 9:43 -0600 Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote: IMHO :days 0 is not allowed/ignored Ok, I've set it to 1. Try 3. No difference. Set to 3, stopped cyrus, deleted deliver.db, sent from two different accounts. They were received, however no attempt to respond happened. -- Nathanael d. Noblet t 403.875.4613 Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Upgrading from 2.3 to til 2.4
It's usually possible in a murder configuration to do a zero downtime upgrade by xfer-ing users to a backend running the new version. The admin is then in control of how much index upgrade load to inflict on the new machine. :wes On 10 May 2011, at 11:41, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011, Per Steinar Iversen wrote: Running a reconstruct on user.% before allowing in new mail, after the upgrade, seems to be a better and more orderly option than allowing sendmail to do the job? That's certainly how we always do it here. We pause the new email feed at the MTAs (so that it will just queue), firewall off any user access, run a full backup, do the upgrade, trigger a full reconstruct and quota rebuild, and test everything before we restore service. Better the planned downtime, than surprise breakages. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
Hi, How about moving a UUCP spool on the USB stick? ;-) You could use something like rsync on incoming and outgoing folder. Is it just for eMail? What format are the messages in? hi andy, the user is running windows, and has a preference for using lookout. i suppose that i could ask that he run thunderbird instead -- lookout uses a single file pst, so concurrency is really difficult unless the pst file is not the main/default one. at least thunderbird uses file based message store, but alas, windblows doesn't run rsync (iirc). maybe a secondary pst is the solution ... user would have drag all the contents from secondary pst to primary pst. whatta drag! Interesting! What happens when the proxy delivers the stick to the place with The Internet? I initially assumed that this system was already somehow in place, but perhaps it is not? Is it just currently used for non-eMail things? Is the intention to copy the pst, or mail folders or whatever onto the USB stick and then open up another copy of Thunderbird on the other end and cause all the sending to happen? In my copy of Thunderbird I can right click on Local Folders and I get an options screen that allows my to specify the Local directory. It strikes me that you could copy this folder to the USB stick or just make it live entirely on the USB stick. In the former case you'd have to ensure that Thunderbird was closed before you moved / copied the folder and in the latter case you'd have to ensure that you didn't open Thunderbird whilst the USB stick was out on its travels. To do the copy you could just use the inbuilt copying tools. Either a batch file with xcopy or some such or just using the UI to test it. Regards, @ndy -- andy...@ashurst.eu.org http://www.ashurst.eu.org/ 0x7EBA75FF Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
Hi, i have a rather peculiar case involving an offline user, who has no possibility of internet given his location (satellite is too expensive). there is power, and he has computer, and there is a proxy -- i.e. someone who passes once a day in the late afternoon, and picks up a usb key and takes it back into town to send contents as e-mails. ideally, the proxy's computer would somehow sync with the usb disk, as well as the user's. has anyone dealt with something similar? Yes; this is a case for UUCP. If the user is using an inferior operating system you'll need a second box; all that box has to do is deliver mail [from the card] to a mailbox that the user can then download from via POP. The MTA on that box should be able to queue mail easily enough. I'm not away of any client-side store-and-forward solutions for Windows. Yes... with Significant Onetime Outlay Of Effort you could configure something like a Linux plug computer to do this and then just connect it to their computer with an ethernet cable. You'd want a plug computer with USB, ethernet and maybe a pushbutton and controllable LED. To bring us back on topic, you'd want to install some kind of MTA that still understands UUCP and (obviously ;-)) cyrus as the mail store. Regards, @ndy -- andy...@ashurst.eu.org http://www.ashurst.eu.org/ 0x7EBA75FF Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
On Tue, 10 May 2011, Andy Bennett wrote: To bring us back on topic, you'd want to install some kind of MTA that still understands UUCP and (obviously ;-)) cyrus as the mail store. All good MTAs still interface properly to UUCP support software, and that's when they don't grok BSMTP natively. postfix, exim and sendmail all can do UUCP, in path!bang style even, but also using modern @domain.example.com routing. It works _really_ well. Now, just in case it is not as crazy an idea as it sounds: could one use the replication protocol and a murder cluster to actually have a cyrus mobile drone? Wouldn't work in full offline mode, obviously, so it wouldn't be of help to the thread submitter, but still... -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Upgrading from 2.3 to til 2.4
On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:19:42 -0400 Wesley Craig wrote: It's usually possible in a murder configuration to do a zero downtime upgrade by xfer-ing users to a backend running the new version. The admin is then in control of how much index upgrade load to inflict on the new machine. I'm very interested in details of the xfer-ing. Can you provide them? --Frank Elsner Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Upgrading from 2.3 to til 2.4
On 05/10/2011 01:00 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:19:42 -0400 Wesley Craig wrote: It's usually possible in a murder configuration to do a zero downtime upgrade by xfer-ing users to a backend running the new version. The admin is then in control of how much index upgrade load to inflict on the new machine. I'm very interested in details of the xfer-ing. Can you provide them? This is how we accomplished our upgrade from 2.3 to 2.4. We originally planned an in-place upgrade, but we encountered the same performance problems you noted. Instead, we vacated one server at a time and did the upgrades with no mailboxes in place. We were then free to move mailboxes back on to the newly upgraded server. If you are running a Cyrus Murder, simply connect via cyradm and issue a rename command using the same source and destination mailbox name, but specify a different server. The result will be that the mailbox will keep its original name but will be moved to the different server. For example, if my mailbox was on server1 and I wanted to move it to server 2 I could: $ cyradm server1 rename user.dave64 user.dave64 server2 To specify a partition instead of moving it to the defaultpartition, rename user.dave64 user.dave64 server2!u1 hth, Dave Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: Vacation Not Working...
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 08:58:43AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: sievedir: /var/lib/imap/sieve sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail sieve_maxscriptsize: 32 sieve_maxscripts: 5 Here's what else we have in our config file: sievenotifier: mailto sieve_extensions: fileinto reject vacation imapflags notify envelope body relational regex subaddress copy Also, as people said - you need to have the right envelope sender, because that's what sieve is keying off. Finally, what's happening in your syslog files? There should be something from sieve about processing the message. Bron. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
Re: [OT] offline mail user and syncing
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 01:55:08PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: Now, just in case it is not as crazy an idea as it sounds: could one use the replication protocol and a murder cluster to actually have a cyrus mobile drone? Don't worry - I'm listening to the thread, and thinking... Bron. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
deliver.db
Hi,
One of our scanner produces non-unique message-ids when sending mails.
Ids are repeated in about a week.
So I decided to have deliver.db purged at least once a day, because I
have duplicatesuppression on in imapd.conf
cyrus.conf
EVENTS {
checkpointcmd=ctl_cyrusdb -c period=30
delprune cmd=cyr_expire -E 1 -a -v at=1015
tlsprune cmd=tls_prune period=1440
}
##
deliver.db had 114 lines, I tried to set at to the time 5 min in the
future. I waited for 10 mins. Log reported that cyr_expire ran, but
deliver.db size and number of lines did not change.
I have stopped cyrus, renamed deliver.db, started cyrus. And now
deliver.db is quite small and not changing.
-rw--- 1 cyrus mail 8,0K May 11 10:55 /var/imap/deliver.db
What should I do anyway to fight that ugly scanner while keeping
duplicatesuppression on ?
__
Alexei Shilin
cyrus-imapd 2.3.14-r3
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Re: deliver.db
Hi,
One of our scanner produces non-unique message-ids when sending mails.
Ids are repeated in about a week.
So I decided to have deliver.db purged at least once a day, because I
have duplicatesuppression on in imapd.conf
cyrus.conf
EVENTS {
checkpointcmd=ctl_cyrusdb -c period=30
delprune cmd=cyr_expire -E 1 -a -v at=1015
tlsprune cmd=tls_prune period=1440
}
##
deliver.db had 114 lines, I tried to set at to the time 5 min in the
future. I waited for 10 mins. Log reported that cyr_expire ran, but
deliver.db size and number of lines did not change.
I have stopped cyrus, renamed deliver.db, started cyrus. And now
deliver.db is quite small and not changing.
-rw--- 1 cyrus mail 8,0K May 11 10:55 /var/imap/deliver.db
What should I do anyway to fight that ugly scanner while keeping
duplicatesuppression on ?
I suggest to generate a valid message ID on the receiving MTA for just
those mails. How to do it really depends on how your config looks like and
there may be a lot of ways to do that. If you could remove the message ID
before it is injected into the MTA, the MTA may happily generate a new
unique one.
Regards,
Simon
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Re: deliver.db
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:11:54PM -0700, Alexei Shilin wrote: (I see you're one of our customers) One of our scanner produces non-unique message-ids when sending mails. Ids are repeated in about a week. I'm guessing this isn't fixable in the scanner - but an alternative might be to strip it with a filter and then have your MTA generate a new one. I'm pretty sure that's possible with Postfix. Assuming you don't need the original for tracking purposes - though you could probably even add it as X-Original-Message-Id: or something. delprune cmd=cyr_expire -E 1 -a -v at=1015 What should I do anyway to fight that ugly scanner while keeping duplicatesuppression on ? Try it without -a? I know there are some pretty confused pieces of logic in cyr_expire back in 2.3.x. Bron. Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/
