Re: Problem with Sieve Vacation message

2001-08-28 Thread Atif Ghaffar 

Hi,

You can use the notify feature of Cyrus.
see contrib/notify_unix examples in the cyrus source directory.


Johannes Walch wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 additionally to any change making configuration more easy, some sort of
 logging should be introduced. If no vacation gets sent the admin should at
 last know why. I struggled with vacation nearly a week just because nothing
 is logged and I had to do a constant trial and error.
 
 Johannes Walch
 nwe GmbH

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[Fwd: Problem with Sieve Vacation message]

2001-08-27 Thread Atif Ghaffar 

 


Hi,

We also had similar confusion with vacation.
One of the problem was that the internal name of the mail box was
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
example 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and this is what vacation was looking for in the envelope.
We solved this by adding user's principal email address to the adresses
field.


Another problem is aliases.
My principal email address at work is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but some people write to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
while others (more formal) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and then the insiders (lazy ones) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc, etc, not to mention using cases where the complete 
domain points to the same user.

Example case.
Instead of giving my users, [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the email address, I
can assign them
@username.domain.tld,
so they can use different email addresses for different lists, sites
etc.(One of the ways to figure out, who is selling your address).

How will vacation handle these cases?
I agree with Gary that specifying :addresses is confusing.

If it is possible, I would suggest two remedies.

1. Dont check for any envelope. If the mail has arrived to my box, then
it was destined for me and a vacation reply should be sent.

2. Look up address in some map such as LDAP mail aliases etc.


I prefer the first one, but it has one drawback.
Vacation replies will be sent to group addresses , example info@company,
sales@company etc.


regards.





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There are many circumstances in which the envelope recipient address,
 as modified by lmtpd, will never match the header recipients.  This
 will happen if the mail server has an unqualified hostname, if sendmail
 is masquerading header recipients, of if sendmail accepts mail sent
 to a CNAME, for example.  In theses cases Sieve Vacation will never
 respond to incoming mail unless the correct :addresses values are
 specified in the sieve script.  Having to specify these is unnecessary
 and confusing.

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Re: Problem with Sieve Vacation message

2001-08-27 Thread Atif Ghaffar 

Hi,

We also had similar confusion with vacation.
One of the problem was that the internal name of the mail box was
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
example 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and this is what vacation was looking for in the envelope.
We solved this by adding user's principal email address to the adresses
field.


Another problem is aliases.
My principal email address at work is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but some people write to me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
while others (more formal) at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and then the insiders (lazy ones) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
etc, etc, not to mention using cases where the complete 
domain points to the same user.

Example case.
Instead of giving my users, [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the email address, I
can assign them
@username.domain.tld,
so they can use different email addresses for different lists, sites
etc.(One of the ways to figure out, who is selling your address).

How will vacation handle these cases?
I agree with Gary that specifying :addresses is confusing.

If it is possible, I would suggest two remedies.

1. Dont check for any envelope. If the mail has arrived to my box, then
it was destined for me and a vacation reply should be sent.

2. Look up address in some map such as LDAP mail aliases etc.


I prefer the first one, but it has one drawback.
Vacation replies will be sent to group addresses , example info@company,
sales@company etc.


regards.





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There are many circumstances in which the envelope recipient address,
 as modified by lmtpd, will never match the header recipients.  This
 will happen if the mail server has an unqualified hostname, if sendmail
 is masquerading header recipients, of if sendmail accepts mail sent
 to a CNAME, for example.  In theses cases Sieve Vacation will never
 respond to incoming mail unless the correct :addresses values are
 specified in the sieve script.  Having to specify these is unnecessary
 and confusing.

-- 
Atif Ghaffar
Internet Development Manager
4unet AG/SA/Ltd.
---.
  +41 21 351 53 60 ¦ voice
  +41 79 659 89 72 ¦ mobile
  +41 21 254 53 62 ¦ fax
  http://www.4unet.net ¦ www
http://www.atifghaffar.com ¦ homepage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ¦ email

Re: Problem with Sieve Vacation message

2001-08-27 Thread Stefano Coatti 

Thank you Ken.
Now vacation message works fine, so I installed websieve (very easy).

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Re: Problem with Sieve Vacation message

2001-08-26 Thread mills 

I no longer have the original message in this thread, but for the
benefit of others trying to make Sieve Vacation work, I'm going to
summarize what I've discovered.

Ken Murchison is correct in that Sieve Vacation does not consult
the `servername' setting from /etc/imapd.conf to determine the
domain portion of the recipient address.  In fact, it compares the
envelope recipient to the header recipients to determine if the
message is ``personally addressed''.  If there are :addresses values
specified in the sieve script, it compares the envelope recipient to
those as well.  Both the user portion and the domain portion of the
addresses have to match in order for Sieve Vacation to respond to
the message.

However, the domain portion of the envelope recipient address is
set by Cyrus lmptd.  Sendmail always strips the domain portion of
the envelope recipient when doing local delivery, leaving an unqualified
address.  Cyrus lmptd qualifies this with the `servername' setting from
/etc/imapd.conf, or the local hostname, if this setting is absent.

There are many circumstances in which the envelope recipient address,
as modified by lmtpd, will never match the header recipients.  This
will happen if the mail server has an unqualified hostname, if sendmail
is masquerading header recipients, of if sendmail accepts mail sent
to a CNAME, for example.  In theses cases Sieve Vacation will never
respond to incoming mail unless the correct :addresses values are
specified in the sieve script.  Having to specify these is unnecessary
and confusing.

One solution would be a configuration setting for the domain that
Cyrus lmptd uses to qualify the envelope recipient.  However, this
only takes care of the simplest case.  A better solution would be
a configuration setting for a list of domains that Sieve Vacation
would recognize as local domains.  This would mean that Vacation would
work correctly by default, and that most users would not need to
specify :addresses values.


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Re: Problem with Sieve Vacation message

2001-08-23 Thread Ken Murchison 



Stefano Coatti wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I use cyrus 2.0.16 with sendmail and sendmail 8.11.6.
 I retry to solve the problem of sieve vacation message.
 
 My actual Mailer configuration in sendmail is:
 
 Mcyrus,P=[IPC], F=lsDFMnqA5@/:|SmXz, E=\r\n,
S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
A=FILE /var/imap/socket/lmtp
 
 With this configuration, sieve mechanism works fine but vacation message no.
 For example the script:
 
 require [reject,fileinto];
 
if address :is :all From [EMAIL PROTECTED]
{
  reject testing;
}
 
 is OK while in the execution of this script:
 
 require [vacation];
 
   vacation :days 20 :addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delirio tremens...;
 
 nothing happens.

With this action, the only messages that will generate vacation
responses are those sent to stefano.coatti and
[EMAIL PROTECTED].  I'm guessing that you want to add at least
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to the list of :addresses.

Ken
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Re: Problem with Sieve Vacation message

2001-08-23 Thread Ken Murchison 



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Kenneth Murchison writes:
 
vacation :days 20 :addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delirio tremens...;
 
 With this action, the only messages that will generate vacation
 responses are those sent to stefano.coatti and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 You are assuming that `servername' is not specified in /etc/imapd.conf.
 If it is, `vacation' will append that domain to stefano.coatti.
 My sendmail configuration, for example, always qualifies unqualified
 addresses, so that I must define `servername' to get a working default
 for sieve `vacation'.

I think you're mistaken.  Please show me where in the code vacation does
anything with the servername.  Vacation makes no assumptions about what
the server or domain name is when comparing addresses, it simply
compares the envelope TO address and any :addresses specified in the
vacation action to those in the TO, CC and BCC headers in the message
body.

I worked on a lot of this code, so I'm pretty sure that I'm right.  But
please correct me if I'm wrong, I might actually learn something today
:^)

Ken
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Re: A problem with sieve-vacation (supplement)

2001-05-21 Thread Dietmar Rahlfs 

Hello Ken,

please excuse my not having
well read the vacation draft.

The local hostname of lrp.rz.fh-ulm.de
is configured as lrp, and a local
message to rahlfs@lrp succeeds
concerning vacation even without
the :addresses options.

Therefore:
If I only want to use to vacation-
reply messages sent to

username@`bin/hostname`

I do not have to use the :addresses
option, but in all other cases. This
is what the draft v03 says, I think
(for Unix systems with hostname in
the /bin directory).

Dietmar Rahlfs

A problem with sieve-vacation

2001-05-18 Thread Dietmar Rahlfs 

Hello,

although I read in the mailing list I could not discover
what I configured wrong.

Reject or fileinto is no problem, only vacation.

I know this topic has been discussed a few times, but I
don´t get away with this problem alone.

Thanks - Dietmar Rahlfs

P.S.: If I forgot to write necessary information, please
inform me.

==

My setting:

sendmail version 8.11.2, cyrus-imapd 2.0.13. Linux kernel 2.2.19.

Immediately before I edited /usr/sieve/r/rahlfs/default
to change the vacation text. Then I sent an e-mail from
the host felix to lrp where the cyrus IMAP cought it.


/var/log/messages:
May 18 09:29:46 lrp master[27712]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/lmtpd
May 18 09:29:46 lrp service-lmtpunix[27712]: executed
May 18 09:29:46 lrp lmtpd[27712]: accepted connection
May 18 09:29:46 lrp lmtpd[27712]: lmtp connection preauth'd as postman
May 18 09:29:47 lrp master[75]: process 27712 exited, status 0

/var/log/mail
May 18 09:29:46 lrp sendmail[27708]: f4I7TkX27708:
  from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=312, class=0, nrcpts=1,
  msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP,
  daemon=MTA, relay=Felix.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.14]
May 18 09:29:46 lrp sendmail[27710]: f4I7TkX27708:
  to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
  mailer=cyrus, pri=120312, relay=cyrus, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent


Mail file under /var/spool/imap/user:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from felix.rz.fh-ulm.de (Felix.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.14])
by lrp.rz.fh-ulm.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4I7TkX27708
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:46 +0200
Received: (from root@localhost)
by felix.rz.fh-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00969
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:47 +0200
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:47 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: zzz

zzz


/usr/sieve/r/rahlfs/default:

require [vacation,reject,fileinto];

  vacation testing3;


In /etc/sendmail.cf (also tested without the P flag):

Mcyrus, P=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver, F=PlsDFMnqA5@/:SmXz, S=EnvFromL,
R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
U=cyrus:mail, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
A=deliver -e -l

Mcyrusbb, P=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver, F=PlsDFMnu, S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
U=cyrus:mail, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
A=deliver -e -l


sendmail.mc:

divert(0)dnl
OSTYPE(linux)
DOMAIN(generic)
FEATURE(`always_add_domain')
FEATURE(`nouucp',`reject')
define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrus')dnl
define(`confCW_FILE',`/etc/mail/local-host-names')dnl
define(`confBIND_OPTS',`-DNSRCH -DEFNAMES')dnl
define(`CYRUS_MAILER_FLAGS', `A5@/:SmXz')dnl
define(`CYRUS_MAILER_ARGS', `deliver -e -l')dnl
define(`CYRUS_BB_MAILER_ARGS', `deliver -e -l')dnl
define(`confMAX_MESSAGE_SIZE',`2500')dnl
MAILER(local)
MAILER(smtp)
MAILER(cyrus)
LOCAL_RULE_0
Rbb + $+  @ $=w .  $#cyrusbb $: $1

Re: A problem with sieve-vacation

2001-05-18 Thread Ken Murchison 

Try changing your script to:

require [vacation,reject,fileinto];

vacation :addresses [EMAIL PROTECTED] testing3;




Dietmar Rahlfs wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 although I read in the mailing list I could not discover
 what I configured wrong.
 
 Reject or fileinto is no problem, only vacation.
 
 I know this topic has been discussed a few times, but I
 don´t get away with this problem alone.
 
 Thanks - Dietmar Rahlfs
 
 P.S.: If I forgot to write necessary information, please
 inform me.
 
 ==
 
 My setting:
 
 sendmail version 8.11.2, cyrus-imapd 2.0.13. Linux kernel 2.2.19.
 
 Immediately before I edited /usr/sieve/r/rahlfs/default
 to change the vacation text. Then I sent an e-mail from
 the host felix to lrp where the cyrus IMAP cought it.
 
 /var/log/messages:
 May 18 09:29:46 lrp master[27712]: about to exec /usr/cyrus/bin/lmtpd
 May 18 09:29:46 lrp service-lmtpunix[27712]: executed
 May 18 09:29:46 lrp lmtpd[27712]: accepted connection
 May 18 09:29:46 lrp lmtpd[27712]: lmtp connection preauth'd as postman
 May 18 09:29:47 lrp master[75]: process 27712 exited, status 0
 
 /var/log/mail
 May 18 09:29:46 lrp sendmail[27708]: f4I7TkX27708:
   from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=312, class=0, nrcpts=1,
   msgid=[EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=ESMTP,
   daemon=MTA, relay=Felix.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.14]
 May 18 09:29:46 lrp sendmail[27710]: f4I7TkX27708:
   to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
   mailer=cyrus, pri=120312, relay=cyrus, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
 
 Mail file under /var/spool/imap/user:
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: from felix.rz.fh-ulm.de (Felix.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.14])
 by lrp.rz.fh-ulm.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4I7TkX27708
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:46 +0200
 Received: (from root@localhost)
 by felix.rz.fh-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00969
 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:47 +0200
 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:47 +0200
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: zzz
 
 zzz
 
 /usr/sieve/r/rahlfs/default:
 
 require [vacation,reject,fileinto];
 
   vacation testing3;
 
 In /etc/sendmail.cf (also tested without the P flag):
 
 Mcyrus, P=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver, F=PlsDFMnqA5@/:SmXz, S=EnvFromL,
 R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
 U=cyrus:mail, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
 A=deliver -e -l
 
 Mcyrusbb, P=/usr/cyrus/bin/deliver, F=PlsDFMnu, S=EnvFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
 U=cyrus:mail, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix,
 A=deliver -e -l
 
 sendmail.mc:
 
 divert(0)dnl
 OSTYPE(linux)
 DOMAIN(generic)
 FEATURE(`always_add_domain')
 FEATURE(`nouucp',`reject')
 define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrus')dnl
 define(`confCW_FILE',`/etc/mail/local-host-names')dnl
 define(`confBIND_OPTS',`-DNSRCH -DEFNAMES')dnl
 define(`CYRUS_MAILER_FLAGS', `A5@/:SmXz')dnl
 define(`CYRUS_MAILER_ARGS', `deliver -e -l')dnl
 define(`CYRUS_BB_MAILER_ARGS', `deliver -e -l')dnl
 define(`confMAX_MESSAGE_SIZE',`2500')dnl
 MAILER(local)
 MAILER(smtp)
 MAILER(cyrus)
 LOCAL_RULE_0
 Rbb + $+  @ $=w .  $#cyrusbb $: $1

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Software Engineer 21 Princeton Place
716-662-8973 x26  Orchard Park, NY 14127
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