Re: Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
On Thu, July 22, 2004 10:24 am, Ghislain ADNET wrote: First you were talking about the sent folder and the settings I showed you will allow you to select *any* folder with *any* name for sent, drafts and templates. I usually disable junk mail filtering in mozilla (I have amavis-new+spamassassin taking care of spam on the server), but I enabled it just to test what you are saying and in Junk mail control you can select *any* folder for junk mail (I selected spam and it showed the junk mail icon, you have to collapse and expand the folders tree to see the new icons). The key is to select *other* and not sent/drafts/templates/junk in those preferences. Bye sent,junk trash etc are the same in this regards this is just my redirection is spamc that sent to user+Junk folder so i used it in my exemple. I retried it and i got the icon now, i got to restart to have them back on the top of the list but the icons are ok with a simple collapse (!!). seems that i was not enough patient to have them (or any other mistake possible..). Thanks for the tip this was the only thing i ever had against this mail client (it should be installed on Windows by default ;) ) This is a good thing to know for future users. For all others i would love also to be able to alias the mailbox at the server level (without using sieve) but it does not seems possible :( best regards, Ghislain. --- I would also like to mailbox aliasing at the server level. I administer a cyrus imapd system that was designed before the advent of virtual domains. To accomodate multiple domains on one server, the mailboxes were created in the format of user1.domainname1.com. What I'm looking for now is the ability to give user1 a way to configure his/her POP3/IMAP mail client so that the .domainname1.com portion wouldn't be required. How hard would implementing something like this be? TIA -Lars --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
Ghislain ADNET wrote: Don't know which version of thunderbird/mozilla you are using, but in the current one (and in any previous one starting from Netscape communicator 4.x) I have a lowercase sent folder and I do have the special icon (btw, mozilla shows it with an uppercase name) and everything works fine. In fact I use 'sent' for historical reasons: you can use *any* name (e.g. I use localized names for templates and drafts). Only you have to remember to configure mozilla/thunderbird to use your folders (with thunderbird: tools-account settings-copies folders, select other and select the imap folder you want to use for sent, drafts and templates, with mozilla is the same but account settings is under the edit menu) i use thunderbird 0.7.2 and other people here use mozilla 1.7.1 . For my part my folder junk has not the special icon , if i put Junk then i have it. Also a user cannot change the name of the folder you must do it on the server and resubscribe to use it again (the rename menu icon do not show on those folders). On a large userbase you see why i wish to change this on the server side and not on the client :) So i don't know why we have different behaviors but this is my experience here :) First you were talking about the sent folder and the settings I showed you will allow you to select *any* folder with *any* name for sent, drafts and templates. I usually disable junk mail filtering in mozilla (I have amavis-new+spamassassin taking care of spam on the server), but I enabled it just to test what you are saying and in Junk mail control you can select *any* folder for junk mail (I selected spam and it showed the junk mail icon, you have to collapse and expand the folders tree to see the new icons). The key is to select *other* and not sent/drafts/templates/junk in those preferences. Bye -- Luca Olivetti Wetron Automatización S.A. http://www.wetron.es/ Tel. +34 93 5883004 Fax +34 93 5883007 --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
First you were talking about the sent folder and the settings I showed you will allow you to select *any* folder with *any* name for sent, drafts and templates. I usually disable junk mail filtering in mozilla (I have amavis-new+spamassassin taking care of spam on the server), but I enabled it just to test what you are saying and in Junk mail control you can select *any* folder for junk mail (I selected spam and it showed the junk mail icon, you have to collapse and expand the folders tree to see the new icons). The key is to select *other* and not sent/drafts/templates/junk in those preferences. Bye sent,junk trash etc are the same in this regards this is just my redirection is spamc that sent to user+Junk folder so i used it in my exemple. I retried it and i got the icon now, i got to restart to have them back on the top of the list but the icons are ok with a simple collapse (!!). seems that i was not enough patient to have them (or any other mistake possible..). Thanks for the tip this was the only thing i ever had against this mail client (it should be installed on Windows by default ;) ) This is a good thing to know for future users. For all others i would love also to be able to alias the mailbox at the server level (without using sieve) but it does not seems possible :( best regards, Ghislain. --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
Ghislain ADNET wrote: Hello, I know some of you had the problem of the mailbox with an upper case that are not recognized when goign through sendmail. For exemple writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is translated [EMAIL PROTECTED] My problem is Thunderbird use Junk, Trash Sent name boxes etc... and have special icons to show those folders that permit easy identification of the folder by mundane users. But i cannot forward to uppercase adress folders so i have to choose between : 1/ use sent instead of Sent and forget about the special icon in thunderbird and mozilla Don't know which version of thunderbird/mozilla you are using, but in the current one (and in any previous one starting from Netscape communicator 4.x) I have a lowercase sent folder and I do have the special icon (btw, mozilla shows it with an uppercase name) and everything works fine. In fact I use 'sent' for historical reasons: you can use *any* name (e.g. I use localized names for templates and drafts). Only you have to remember to configure mozilla/thunderbird to use your folders (with thunderbird: tools-account settings-copies folders, select other and select the imap folder you want to use for sent, drafts and templates, with mozilla is the same but account settings is under the edit menu) Bye -- Luca Olivetti Wetron Automatización S.A. http://www.wetron.es/ Tel. +34 93 5883004 Fax +34 93 5883007 --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
Don't know which version of thunderbird/mozilla you are using, but in the current one (and in any previous one starting from Netscape communicator 4.x) I have a lowercase sent folder and I do have the special icon (btw, mozilla shows it with an uppercase name) and everything works fine. In fact I use 'sent' for historical reasons: you can use *any* name (e.g. I use localized names for templates and drafts). Only you have to remember to configure mozilla/thunderbird to use your folders (with thunderbird: tools-account settings-copies folders, select other and select the imap folder you want to use for sent, drafts and templates, with mozilla is the same but account settings is under the edit menu) i use thunderbird 0.7.2 and other people here use mozilla 1.7.1 . For my part my folder junk has not the special icon , if i put Junk then i have it. Also a user cannot change the name of the folder you must do it on the server and resubscribe to use it again (the rename menu icon do not show on those folders). On a large userbase you see why i wish to change this on the server side and not on the client :) So i don't know why we have different behaviors but this is my experience here :) best regards, GHislain. --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
Hello, I know some of you had the problem of the mailbox with an upper case that are not recognized when goign through sendmail. For exemple writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is translated [EMAIL PROTECTED] My problem is Thunderbird use Junk, Trash Sent name boxes etc... and have special icons to show those folders that permit easy identification of the folder by mundane users. But i cannot forward to uppercase adress folders so i have to choose between : 1/ use sent instead of Sent and forget about the special icon in thunderbird and mozilla 2/ find a way to create an alias at the server level between Sent and sent (so basicaly only one folder for two names) Do any of you have a solution for the second solution ? best regards, Ghislain. --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
Re: Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
The solution we opted for was to patch Sendmail to make it work :) I have an lmtp patch that doesn't drop the stuff after the + in the address, and it also does not mess with the case with anything after the +. I implemented as a mailer flag, so including a 'W' in the cyrus mailer flags triggers the code to work. I can post it if you are interested... I have tried working with the m4 code in the sendmail.cf file to make that same functionality work without having to patch sendmail. I have yet been able to succeed. Does anyone have a sample config file (other than CMU :-) that works? CMU's code was so complex I couldn't figure it out. Basically, I got all of their config files, and they do a lot in their environment, so it was like looking for a needle in a hay stack :) Scott --On Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:39 PM +0200 Ghislain ADNET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I know some of you had the problem of the mailbox with an upper case that are not recognized when goign through sendmail. For exemple writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is translated [EMAIL PROTECTED] My problem is Thunderbird use Junk, Trash Sent name boxes etc... and have special icons to show those folders that permit easy identification of the folder by mundane users. But i cannot forward to uppercase adress folders so i have to choose between : 1/ use sent instead of Sent and forget about the special icon in thunderbird and mozilla 2/ find a way to create an alias at the server level between Sent and sent (so basicaly only one folder for two names) Do any of you have a solution for the second solution ? best regards, Ghislain. --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html -- +---+ Scott W. Adkinshttp://www.cns.ohiou.edu/~sadkins/ UNIX Systems Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 7626282 Work (740)593-9478 Fax (740)593-1944 +---+ PGP Public Key available at http://www.cns.ohiou.edu/~sadkins/pgp/ pgpcH0DYR34IY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Imap mailbox aliases (two names for the same box)
Scott Adkins wrote: The solution we opted for was to patch Sendmail to make it work :) I have an lmtp patch that doesn't drop the stuff after the + in the address, and it also does not mess with the case with anything after the +. I implemented as a mailer flag, so including a 'W' in the cyrus mailer flags triggers the code to work. I can post it if you are interested... I am glad i am not the only one to have the issue ! Sure i am interested by the patch ! :) best regards, Ghislain. --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
