Re: Missing Email & Folders

2018-12-04 Thread Egoitz Aurrekoetxea
Can anyone provide some more details about this bug?. Have seen
something similar to this... although have not been able to deep on that
issue because have not had reproduced it... 

Cheers!

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El 10-11-2018 22:22, Marcus Schopen escribió:

> Am Mittwoch, den 07.11.2018, 09:16 +0100 schrieb Michael Menge: Hi,
> 
> Quoting Robert Covell :
> 
> If you suspect this is due to a client related problem, you could
> enable telemetry logging to find out who/what is causeing the
> emails to go 
> missing. 
> https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/faqs/o-telemetry.html 
> Good idea will turn this on.
> 
> If the purpose is to (mostly) copy emails into the folder and
> rarely
> delete, you could restrict delete access to a specific account
> via ACL.
 https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/access-control/rights 

> -
> reference.html 
> Believe it is setup like this, been awhile since I did it. Will
> confirm.
> 
> Also forgot to say the one account is ~90GB if that makes any
> difference...
> 
> -Bob
> 
> (sent twice)

We have seen the same kind of problems with Outlook with much
smaller  
mailboxes.
I didn't have the time to debug it. So fare I suspected that some
Data  
in the Outlook
profile got somehow corrupted. 
Isn't this the known bug that Outlook 2013 doesn't really work well if
it is only used via IMAP and not with Exchange? There have been similar
cases with IMAP accounts that have been completely compromised. On the
IMAP there were whole folders missing, but they still existed locally.


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Re: Missing Email & Folders

2018-11-10 Thread Marcus Schopen
Am Mittwoch, den 07.11.2018, 09:16 +0100 schrieb Michael Menge:
> Hi,
> 
> Quoting Robert Covell :
> 
> > > If you suspect this is due to a client related problem, you could
> > > enable telemetry logging to find out who/what is causeing the
> > > emails to go
> > 
> > missing.
> > > 
> > > https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/faqs/o-telemetry.html
> > 
> > Good idea will turn this on.
> > 
> > > 
> > > If the purpose is to (mostly) copy emails into the folder and
> > > rarely
> > > delete, you could restrict delete access to a specific account
> > > via ACL.
> > > 
> > > 
https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/access-control/rights
> > > -
> > > reference.html
> > 
> > Believe it is setup like this, been awhile since I did it. Will
> > confirm.
> > 
> > Also forgot to say the one account is ~90GB if that makes any
> > difference...
> > 
> > -Bob
> > 
> > (sent twice)
> > 
> 
> We have seen the same kind of problems with Outlook with much
> smaller  
> mailboxes.
> I didn't have the time to debug it. So fare I suspected that some
> Data  
> in the Outlook
> profile got somehow corrupted.

Isn't this the known bug that Outlook 2013 doesn't really work well if
it is only used via IMAP and not with Exchange? There have been similar
cases with IMAP accounts that have been completely compromised. On the
IMAP there were whole folders missing, but they still existed locally.



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Re: Missing Email & Folders

2018-11-07 Thread Michael Menge

Hi,

Quoting Robert Covell :


If you suspect this is due to a client related problem, you could
enable telemetry logging to find out who/what is causeing the emails to go

missing.


https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/faqs/o-telemetry.html


Good idea will turn this on.



If the purpose is to (mostly) copy emails into the folder and rarely
delete, you could restrict delete access to a specific account via ACL.

https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/access-control/rights-
reference.html


Believe it is setup like this, been awhile since I did it. Will confirm.

Also forgot to say the one account is ~90GB if that makes any difference...

-Bob

(sent twice)



We have seen the same kind of problems with Outlook with much smaller  
mailboxes.
I didn't have the time to debug it. So fare I suspected that some Data  
in the Outlook

profile got somehow corrupted.

Regards,

   Michael Menge



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RE: Missing Email & Folders

2018-11-06 Thread Robert Covell
> If you suspect this is due to a client related problem, you could 
> enable telemetry logging to find out who/what is causeing the emails to go
missing.
> 
> https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/faqs/o-telemetry.html

Good idea will turn this on.

> 
> If the purpose is to (mostly) copy emails into the folder and rarely 
> delete, you could restrict delete access to a specific account via ACL.
> 
> https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/access-control/rights-
> reference.html

Believe it is setup like this, been awhile since I did it. Will confirm.

Also forgot to say the one account is ~90GB if that makes any difference...

-Bob

(sent twice)


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Re: Missing Email & Folders

2018-11-06 Thread Dan White

On 11/06/18 14:06 -0600, Robert Covell wrote:

Hello All,

Have a few weird situations that I have been unable to find solutions to.

Server:
CentOS release 6.x
cyrus-imapd-2.4.17-6.el5.src.rpm (Simon Matter)

Client:
Outlook 2013

Our client is using Cyrus to store related emails for their clients. The
server does not actually receive mail, it is placed (copied) there.
Approximately eight clients connect to "one" Cyrus account. When an email
comes in for client X the user will find the appropriate imap folder and
copy it to it. If the folder does exist it is created.

Issue One:

Randomly the server side imap folder is empty. Client imap folder has what
was supposed to be on the server but it is not. The copy of the email
appears to have been successful.


Mouse slip?

If you suspect this is due to a client related problem, you could enable
telemetry logging to find out who/what is causeing the emails to go missing.

https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/faqs/o-telemetry.html

If the purpose is to (mostly) copy emails into the folder and rarely delete,
you could restrict delete access to a specific account via ACL.

https://www.cyrusimap.org/imap/reference/admin/access-control/rights-reference.html


Issue Two:

Randomly computers will not see newly created imap folders from other users.
Regardless of how we attempt to get the folder in the imap list we have to
recreate the account.

My assumption is that this is most likely due to imap support in Outlook and
not Cyrus. Wanting to know if anyone has seen anything like this and if a
solution was found.


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Missing Email & Folders

2018-11-06 Thread Robert Covell
Hello All,

Have a few weird situations that I have been unable to find solutions to.

 

Server:

CentOS release 6.x

cyrus-imapd-2.4.17-6.el5.src.rpm (Simon Matter)

 

Client:

Outlook 2013

 

Our client is using Cyrus to store related emails for their clients. The
server does not actually receive mail, it is placed (copied) there.
Approximately eight clients connect to "one" Cyrus account. When an email
comes in for client X the user will find the appropriate imap folder and
copy it to it. If the folder does exist it is created.

 

Issue One:

Randomly the server side imap folder is empty. Client imap folder has what
was supposed to be on the server but it is not. The copy of the email
appears to have been successful.

 

Issue Two:

Randomly computers will not see newly created imap folders from other users.
Regardless of how we attempt to get the folder in the imap list we have to
recreate the account. 

 

My assumption is that this is most likely due to imap support in Outlook and
not Cyrus. Wanting to know if anyone has seen anything like this and if a
solution was found.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

-Bob

 

PS Have been on this mailing list for almost 20 years (since v1.6 I
believe). Can say it is one of the best mailing lists I have been on. Never
ceases to amaze me the quality of feedback and support provided.

 


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