Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
Bob Newell writes: > Choose smtpmail if you don't want to bother with msmtp or if you are a > purist and want to do as much as possible within emacs. It there would be proper logging with smtpmail I'd probably use that... > Choose msmtp if you want something fast, convenient, and easy to use > with good logging. ...but logging feature in msmtp is deal breaker, and msmtp wins the 'contest'. :-) Thanks to all for your replies! Sincerely, Gour -- One who restrains the senses of action but whose mind dwells on sense objects certainly deludes himself and is called a pretender. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
Being an old Sendmail MTA geek, I use a different approach entirely. I have a local MTA (now Postfix, as Sendmail is more or less abandonware these days) on my machine, and use a "header_dependent_relay" database to make Postfix select the right account based on the From: line. GNUS just drops the mail on /usr/bin/sedmail (which is Postfix - aargh! ;-) ) and lets it deal with the problem. Postfix then acts as an SMTP client vis-a-vis my various (three) different accounts. "If all you have is a hammer ...", and my hammer is my MTA. :-) Note: I'm not saying this is better in any way, I'm merely adding to the list of available options, should anyone else be as crazy as I am. ;-) Note2: None of the outgoing accounts is Gmail. I decided that that was one dragon too many. ;-) Cheers, /Liman ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
Štěpán Němec writes: > On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 13:44:21 -0700 > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> I'm using smtp with multiple accounts, and a `message-send-mail-hook' >> that sets the msmtp account based on the From header. Is that still the >> way everyone is doing it? Is there anything simpler for handling >> multiple accounts? > > I'm also using multiple accounts and all I'm doing to that end on Emacs > side seems to be the following: > > (setq send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail > message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail > sendmail-program "/usr/bin/msmtp" > message-sendmail-envelope-from 'header > message-sendmail-f-is-evil nil) > > I.e., I let msmtp pick the account based on the From header. Crap, really? I've got this unwieldy thing that sets the account using `message-sendmail-extra-arguments', I wonder if that's just not necessary at all. I'll try removing it. Thanks for the tip, Eric ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 13:44:21 -0700 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > I'm using smtp with multiple accounts, and a `message-send-mail-hook' > that sets the msmtp account based on the From header. Is that still the > way everyone is doing it? Is there anything simpler for handling > multiple accounts? I'm also using multiple accounts and all I'm doing to that end on Emacs side seems to be the following: (setq send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail sendmail-program "/usr/bin/msmtp" message-sendmail-envelope-from 'header message-sendmail-f-is-evil nil) I.e., I let msmtp pick the account based on the From header. -- Štěpán ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
Bob Newell writes: > While both work fine, I just find msmtp easier to set up and monitor > when using multiple outgoing servers. The .msmtp.log file has proven > useful many times, and .msmtprc is easy to configure. > > Of course, it's one more piece of software on your system, but it's a > good piece. > > Choose smtpmail if you don't want to bother with msmtp or if you are a > purist and want to do as much as possible within emacs. Choose msmtp if > you want something fast, convenient, and easy to use with good logging. I'm using smtp with multiple accounts, and a `message-send-mail-hook' that sets the msmtp account based on the From header. Is that still the way everyone is doing it? Is there anything simpler for handling multiple accounts? ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: splitting Gmail account just copy not move :-(
physiculus writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> >> Is that the only label it shows? What else is in the assoc list? > It depends on the folder in Gmail. > Sometimes it shows ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Important \\Inbox)")) or > ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Inbox \\Sent \\Starred)")) And you're sure that you're opening a message that has some specific label defined on it? I've also seen some indication that you might need to tell Gmail to specifically export your custom labels as flags (or folders?), do you see anything like that here: https://mail.google.com/mail/#settings/labels Otherwise, I'm fresh out of ideas! Sorry... >> And if you open the message and hit "t" (to toggle displaying all >> headers), what does the X-GM-LABELS header look like in the article >> buffer? >> > It didn't see this header... Oh I see, it's not an actual header, just something you can request from Gmail. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
While both work fine, I just find msmtp easier to set up and monitor when using multiple outgoing servers. The .msmtp.log file has proven useful many times, and .msmtprc is easy to configure. Of course, it's one more piece of software on your system, but it's a good piece. Choose smtpmail if you don't want to bother with msmtp or if you are a purist and want to do as much as possible within emacs. Choose msmtp if you want something fast, convenient, and easy to use with good logging. -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i * Via Gnus/BBDB/Org/Emacs/Linux * ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
On Thursday, 1 Aug 2019 at 16:41, Saša Janiška wrote: > Can someone more experienced tell me what do you suggest for sendming > mail from Gnus: smtpmail or msmtp? I've been using msmtp on Linux for years. Works well in my experience. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.2.4 on Debian 10.0 ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: smtpmail vs msmtp
On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:41:00 +0200 Saša Janiška wrote: > Hello! > > Can someone more experienced tell me what do you suggest for sendming > mail from Gnus: smtpmail or msmtp? By smtpmail you mean smtpmail.el? Can't help you there. I've been using msmtp (with Gnus and other clients) for years and to complete satisfaction. I wanted something reliable that works with everything, not only Emacs. HTH, Štěpán ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
smtpmail vs msmtp
Hello! Can someone more experienced tell me what do you suggest for sendming mail from Gnus: smtpmail or msmtp? The former seems as natural choice, but few times I did experience that the message sent from Gnus (when using smtpmail) did not go through and for such (rare) cases I'm considering that (maybe) msmtp with its logging capability is possibly a better/safer option? Any possibility to log messages sent via smtpmail? Any other hint? Sincerely, Gour -- One who is not disturbed in mind even amidst the threefold miseries or elated when there is happiness, and who is free from attachment, fear and anger, is called a sage of steady mind. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: splitting Gmail account just copy not move :-(
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > > Is that the only label it shows? What else is in the assoc list? It depends on the folder in Gmail. Sometimes it shows ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Important \\Inbox)")) or ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Inbox \\Sent \\Starred)")) > > And if you open the message and hit "t" (to toggle displaying all > headers), what does the X-GM-LABELS header look like in the article > buffer? > It didn't see this header... >> Message buffer show ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Important)")) Specified image >> bit depth is not supported by XRender >> Specified image bit depth is not supported by XRender" >> >> What does it mean? > > I have no idea :) Could there be an image in the message headers? Like a > gravatar or something? I really have no clue there. > This error comes up only one time. I checked again with another mail and this mail seems to be ok. Regards Poul ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
