Re: recipient does not have pgp key? can i still send an encrypted email?

2022-12-09 Thread jindam, vani

On 2022-12-09 23:06, Björn Bidar wrote:

"jindam, vani"  writes:


if yes, how? i have created gpg.conf & added
auto-key-locate local,keyserver,wkd.


You can't unless you use symmetric encryption (see the earlier answer
you got).

However if the Gnupg finds the key of the recipient through the
~auto-key-locate~ option you might be to find the key.
Another method would be to ask the mail provider for the public-key of
the recipient if autocrypt[1] is used.


ok. another issue resolved. since few months
k9 mail(1) is using this method.


Gnus doesn't support it out of
the box however there's a third party plugin[2] that does add such 
support.

I haven't tested that myself.


Br,

Björn

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[1] https://autocrypt.org/
[2] https://git.sr.ht/~pkal/autocrypt


(1) https://github.com/thundernest/k-9

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Re: smtpmail-send-it: Sending failed: 504 5.5.2 : Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname

2022-12-09 Thread jindam, vani

On 2022-12-09 23:14, Björn Bidar wrote:

Do you really need to add the credentials here?


no,its temporary solution.
i am setting up slowly and incrementally...
right now, connection error is resolved,
able to send emails (did not setup anything
fancy).


Try without them so
smptmail will try to use auth-source to retrieve the credentials.

These are my smtpmail settings:
  (use-package smtpmail


added (require 'smtpmail) to ~/.emacs.
i receive error:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function use-package)
  (use-package smtpmail :config (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server 
"disroot.org" smtpmail-smtp-server "disroot.org" smtpmail-smtp-service 
"465" smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl smtpmail-servers-requiring-authorization 
".*"))
  eval-buffer(# nil "/home/jin/.gnus" nil t)  ; Reading 
at buffer position 795

  load-with-code-conversion("/home/jin/.gnus" "/home/jin/.gnus" nil t)
  load("~/.gnus" nil t)
  gnus-read-init-file()
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  funcall-interactively(gnus nil)
  call-interactively(gnus record nil)
  command-execute(gnus record)
  execute-extended-command(nil "gnus" "gnu")
  funcall-interactively(execute-extended-command nil "gnus" "gnu")
  call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
  command-execute(execute-extended-command)

are you referring to smtpmail-multi on melpa?(1)


:config
(setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.server.de"
  smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.server.de"
  smtpmail-smtp-service "465"
  smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl
  smtpmail-servers-requiring-authorization ".*"))

For me these work like this, smtpmail will try to retrieve the
localdomain and sendto-domain by itself.

If you add either to the hosts file they should be fine.


added 178.21.23.139 disroot.org to /etc/hosts

jin@localhost:~$ nslookup disroot.org
Server: 8.8.8.8
Address:8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   disroot.org
Address: 178.21.23.139


(1) https://melpa.org/#/smtpmail-multi

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Re: smtpmail-send-it: Sending failed: 504 5.5.2 : Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname

2022-12-09 Thread Björn Bidar


Do you really need to add the credentials here? Try without them so
smptmail will try to use auth-source to retrieve the credentials.

These are my smtpmail settings:
  (use-package smtpmail
:config
(setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp.server.de"
  smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.server.de"
  smtpmail-smtp-service "465"
  smtpmail-stream-type 'ssl
  smtpmail-servers-requiring-authorization ".*"))

For me these work like this, smtpmail will try to retrieve the
localdomain and sendto-domain by itself.

If you add either to the hosts file they should be fine.

Br,

Björn



Re: recipient does not have pgp key? can i still send an encrypted email?

2022-12-09 Thread Björn Bidar
"jindam, vani"  writes:

> if yes, how? i have created gpg.conf & added
> auto-key-locate local,keyserver,wkd.

You can't unless you use symmetric encryption (see the earlier answer
you got).

However if the Gnupg finds the key of the recipient through the
~auto-key-locate~ option you might be to find the key.
Another method would be to ask the mail provider for the public-key of
the recipient if autocrypt[1] is used. Gnus doesn't support it out of
the box however there's a third party plugin[2] that does add such support.
I haven't tested that myself.


Br,

Björn

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[1] https://autocrypt.org/
[2] https://git.sr.ht/~pkal/autocrypt





Re: recipient does not have pgp key? can i still send an encrypted email?

2022-12-09 Thread Adam Sjøgren
vani writes:

> it seems we need recipient pgp key for sending
> encrypted email. if there is no pgp key, can i
> still encrypted email?

No, not with public-key cryptography¹, which is what is usually used.
You need the recipients public key to be able to encrypt the email to
them.

If you and the recipient share a secret (eg. a password), you could use
symmetric encryption², but you have to share the secret in some other
way first, so it's rarely a solution.


  Best regards,

Adam


¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
² https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric-key_algorithm

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recipient does not have pgp key? can i still send an encrypted email?

2022-12-09 Thread jindam, vani

it seems we need recipient pgp key for sending
encrypted email. if there is no pgp key, can i
still encrypted email?
if yes, how? i have created gpg.conf & added
auto-key-locate local,keyserver,wkd.
i am trying to end an enceyted email by adding
<#secure method=pgpmime mode=encrypt>

regards,
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