Re: Overview buffer contains garbage

2021-02-15 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen

() Eric Abrahamsen 
() Mon, 15 Feb 2021 15:54:58 -0800

   It means that the Gnus agent has saved nov/header data in its
   .overview file that it was subsequently unable to make sense
   of. Each header line is supposed to start with an integer
   indicating the article number being read. In your case, the
   line seems to start with "an"? Or maybe it looks like "an" is
   part of a date format that Gnus is expecting?

   Anyhow, it would be useful to see the (full) offending line
   from the .overview file in the corresponding agent directory.

Yeah, that was the full line (starts with "an").  While waiting
for your response (thanks, btw!), i looked in gnus.info for
something along the lines of "regenerate overview", but IIUC the
instructions there are not suitable for ‘nntp’ (the backend for
this particular group).

Afterwards, i found the offending line and deleted it (along w/
a bunch of versioned ".overview.N.~" backup files) .  So far, so
good; no errors yet...

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Overview buffer contains garbage

2021-02-13 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen

I see a message like this every once in a while:

Overview buffer contains garbage ‘an 2021 09:28:15 -0300
<6006d062.1c69fb81.9582b.0...@mx.google.com>
<5ffe3063.1c69fb81.52f23.1...@mx.google.com>689823  Xref: 
news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:198159’.

What does it mean and how can i get rid of it?

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Re: gnutls-e-invalid-session

2021-01-02 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen

() Lars Ingebrigtsen 
() Sat, 02 Jan 2021 07:13:10 +0100

   It sounds like your Emacs doesn't understand the TLS as
   spoken by eggs.gnu.org.

OK.

   > (This is w/ Gnus v5.13 on Emacs 21.7.)

   I'm guessing that's 27.1.  :-)

Oops, yes.  A little subconscious nostalgia there... :-D

   What's your OS and the gnutls version?

$ gnutls-cli --version
gnutls-cli 3.6.15

$ uname -a
Linux miasma 5.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.9.11-1 (2020-11-27) x86_64 GNU/Linux

(This is actually a Devuan distro, somewhere between Beowulf and
Chimaera, kind of a mixed bag...)

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gnutls-e-invalid-session

2021-01-01 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen

I tried to send a mail to info-gnu (AT ...), w/ From:
t...@gnu.org and X-Message-SMTP-Method: smtp eggs.gnu.org 587,
but instead of going through as it had done previously (maybe a
month or two ago), i encountered the error:

 gnutls.el: (err=[gnutls-e-invalid-session] La sessione specificata è stata 
invalidata per qualche motivo.) boot: (:priority NORMAL:%DUMBFW :hostname 
eggs.gnu.org :loglevel 0 :min-prime-bits nil :trustfiles 
(/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt) :crlfiles nil :keylist nil :verify-flags 
nil :verify-error nil :callbacks nil)
 gnutls-negotiate: GnuTLS error: #, gnutls-e-invalid-session

The mail was signed w/ my GPG key (mentioned below), normally
(just like w/ this mail).

What do i need to do to resolve this?  (This is w/ Gnus v5.13 on
Emacs 21.7.)  TIA for any hints/help.

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Re: Displaying Images in HTML Mail

2015-03-04 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Les Harris l...@lesharris.com
() Sun, 01 Mar 2015 20:26:31 -0800

   Can anyone point me in the right direction for configuring
   Gnus to display images in HTML mail?

   [...]

   I have yet to find the relevant configuration for this so I
   thought I would ask and see if anyone knew.

Before you asked i did not know, but i know how to find out:

 M-x apropos RET gnus-.*image RET

If you do this and post your findings, then together we will
have answered this question in the most fulfilling way, IMHO.

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Re: What happened to nnslashdot and nnultimate

2014-07-25 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Stefan Huchler stefan.huch...@mail.de
() Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:01:21 +0200

And what are you doing about it?

   First I check if somebody else solved this
   problem before because I am not stupid and dont
   want to reinvent the wheel again and again.

Why not?  Maybe the wheel you reinvent will be more
suited than previously (re-)invented wheels and
thus stay around longer (yuk yuk).  :-D

I think what people are trying to tell you is that
screen-scraping is a slog and maintaining programs
that screen-scrape is doubly (or triply) so, to the
extent that you end up going from big feature to
big PITA to big relief when the suffering ends.

That is the real answer.  That is the real wheel.

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splitting weird on emacs trunk gnus

2014-07-07 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
The trunk (pulled a few hours ago, built and run in-place) Emacs
Gnus no longer behaves sensibly for ‘B t’.  Previously, i'd see
the trace buffer with one or more groups and their derivations.
Now, i see instead the article displayed and This message would
go to bogus in the echo area.

I ‘edebug-defun’ed ‘gnus-summary-respool-query’ and then later
also ‘nnmail-article-group’, and found that ‘nnmail-split-methods’
has value nil at evaluation time, which is strange since it is
‘let’-bound (nnimap source) in its caller and i would expect it to
have the value of var ‘nnmail-split-fancy’ (a hairy sexp omitted
here).  Hmmm...

Anyone else see similar weirdness?

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Re: splitting weird on emacs trunk gnus

2014-07-07 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Thien-Thi Nguyen t...@gnu.org
() Mon, 07 Jul 2014 17:27:44 +0200

   Anyone else see similar weirdness?

Yes, you fool!  Obviously you haven't read:

 (info (gnus) Client-Side IMAP Splitting)

and done:

  (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
'(...
  (nnimap ...
  (nnimap-split-methods 'default)
  )
))

in ~/.gnus !  Stop wasting everyone's time!

(BTW, i really dislike both ‘RET’ and ‘C-j’ indenting, WTF!)

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Re: Faking filenames for attachments

2014-02-12 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de
() Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:43:01 +

   Are there other options that I have missed?

You can symlink the desired name to the actual name before attaching.
How and when to remove the symlink is another problem, however...

I'm curious: What kind of files do you want to fake their names?

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Re: Deleting duplicates from nnml:mail.misc

2013-10-14 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Alex Schroeder a...@gnu.org
() Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:44:49 +0200

   And it takes long seconds to build up the data structures.

If order does not matter, you can use a hash table instead of an alist.

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Re: OT: Have you met another Gnus user in person?

2013-06-10 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Some facts:

- I met someone.
- I introduced her to Gnus (and ‘M-x zone’ and ...).
- She has been using it for ten years.
- Our relationship has its ups and downs.
- Likewise her Gnus setup (including 8mo lost mail).
- I still get confused from GNUS of netcom.com dayz...

Where is the correlation, where is the causation?
Will she forgive me, will she forget?

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Re: installation validation

2012-06-10 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org
() Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:27:00 +0200

- How would i go about diagnosing the current situation?
- What would be the best way to repair the Mail and News
  dirs and restore mail-retrieval functionality?

   You're getting internal IMAP server errors, and I'm not sure
   that whatever Gnus does, that should be the result.  Did
   anybody upgrade the IMAP server or something?

Maybe.  I think the situation resolved itself somehow, several
weeks (months?) back.  If it arises again, i'll try to take better
notes.

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installation validation

2012-04-14 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
A local Gnus user that i support did something mysterious
and now some of the nnml groups seem to be (i'm not sure)
agentized, or at least relocated from dir

  ~/Mail/mail

to dir

  ~/News/agent/nnml/unnamed/mail

Another (possibly unrelated) result is that attempts to retrieve
mail (using ‘g’) from one of the IMAP sources now consistently
shows Mail source (DETAILS) error (IMAP error: Internal error
occurred. Error report written to server log [TIMESTAMP]).  Hmm...

I'd like to restore previous known-good state if possible.
How can i validate (for self-consistency and well-formedness)
the structure of the Mail and News subdirs?

I imagine, say, ‘M-x validate-gnus-installation RET’ to either
display a message Everything OK or pop up a buffer w/ some
diagnostic info that might help to track down the mysterious
goings on.

Dare i hope for such a beast to exist?

Presuming the answer is no, until Someone writes it, the
next questions are:
- How would i go about diagnosing the current situation?
- What would be the best way to repair the Mail and News
  dirs and restore mail-retrieval functionality?

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Re: gnus opening attachments

2012-01-30 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Lars Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org
() Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:13:07 +0100

expanded set:

   Sure, but that's pretty annoying to have to do.

Agreed.  Hence, kludge.

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Re: gnus opening attachments

2012-01-28 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen la...@gnus.org
() Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:17:21 +0100

   moabi2000 moabi2...@gmail.com writes:

I tracked this down to  line 94 of mailcap.el associates gnumeric with
vnd.ms-excel files.
   
 (vnd\\.ms-excel
  (viewer . gnumeric %s)
  (test   . (getenv DISPLAY))
  (type . application/vnd.ms-excel))
   
Replacing gnumeric with libreoffice and doing make clean  make had
me on my way.
   
So there seem to be significant issues in gnus parsing of mailcap
files.

   So basically, the built-in alist in mailcap.el seems to override your
   .mailcap file?

   I'm unable to reproduce this.  If I put something in my .mailcap file,
   start Emacs, and then try to view something, the entries from the
   .mailcap file ends up first in my `mailcap-mime-data' variable.

The order in ‘mailcap-mime-data’ is only relevant if there are no
wildcards or Lisp-handled viewer candidates.  This is because when
those are present, they are de-prioritized as a result of:

  (setq passed (sort passed 'mailcap-viewer-lessp))

You can reproduce the problem by adding something like:

  image/*; xloadimage -shrink %s

to ~/.mailcap and restarting.  For example, doing just that,
on my computer:

  (mailcap-mime-info image/jpeg)
  = /usr/bin/xloadimage '%s' 

which is from /etc/mailcap, i believe.  One solution is to expose the
lessp arg to the ‘sort’ call as a variable, so users can specify a
function that causes wildcard * to mean override instead of default
(as it is currently).  This is more upward compatible than the
alternative -- adding a variable to disable sorting entirely -- since
the MIME support infrastructure in Debian (and maybe others) now
includes a user-specified priority option (man update-mime).

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