Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Morning Adam. > Adam Sjøgren writes: > Sharon writes: > >> at last I can see html-like emails using 'shr'. Before I used 'w3m', >> and I could right-click a link and then copy the url to the clipboard >> for pasting into a browser. Unfortunately I've now lost that ability >> through using 'shr'. > >> Do you know how I can regain the right-click of the mouse ability >> please? > > No. > > However, if I left-click on a link in an article, it opens in my default > browser. I haven't tried this one yet. > > If I press u with point on the link in the article, the URL is copied to > the clipboard. But this works a treat! > > If I press w in the *Summary* buffer, Gnus will open the link in the > article in my default browser - prompting if there is more than one > link. And this works too, so thank you very much. :) > > Are any of those options useful for you? > Thanks again Sharon. - -- Debian 11, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 28.0.50, org 9.4.6 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJPBAEBCgA5FiEELSc/6QwVBIYugJDbNoGAGQr4g1sFAmFMNBAbHGJvdWRpY2Nh c0Bza2ltYmxlLnBsdXMuY29tAAoJEDaBgBkK+INbDrcP/jTgj93aD52lAuaIKx6P /GKRRHNh+HcHIBLDLbCzPOhDaAeNpyajKHGkL+pTcqf0tPNBmiv+Q1wKCxVGjHbT eL89+IKm93gRDJkN5M+Ab1g/UcWMQX5K0RijZw+aNuPg1TP0oLrG6Y24GrqD6By8 Kp+WEuGR7i/md9HwkQ1q9BLs6ZmDaEtKCw/i67WOYKxmdletWovIVWAVlEIyMvF+ JsfmFjl09FBCMjF/nUw4OMbTMsklXONZXLnWMs82Po/iWATdCnpo1i2BJWbFb8RP FLmduWlBg+zheNEa9tnS3mpM2ZoLYjvlOwZvejtEPXBq18/PvSSgVF8LKzcejBgS XzOXhLOJNfPMsJg2z9Tii95AlzR8ljGRB8paJpjtLp6RNvqiXuOD+2z0i3zKzY6r XnOmjHBqgomvgoYsj/dazRMoYKzvkS61F+n1wT1SNvyN3sSSev6EhNR+KnMH1phf oPK2tywpZXdo2ZWoz4XwjSoyie5IjbG1RoEM/qvsewde6aHDonfKep0nelLyEa3H ZT18FFnAihUnhp+ukL+niS3zLKBprSbXA5IHuuHhQg7pyA+XFTxczeE4FyZ6ehSV xViCn6S30P8d6e1/OyTCcqhVGAZ42U3y8YvnG/Z0cEiSwLnPi2T/7s9pu9iUYUc1 USx8OF3hfJgxzwkvO2GiWpot =FPWz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Oh! After all these years, this bug again! I reported it ~10 years ago but no one was able to reproduce it, but now I have Lessie on camera! (Maybe Gnus is more like Yeti...) https://dataswamp.org/~incal/figures/emacs/gnus/gnus-sig.png Note that I saw two posts from you (Mr. Adam Sjøgren) and the first post was cool, this only appeared in your Message-ID: <87fstxzrke@tullinup.koldfront.dk> post! Cool BTW: Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark :) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
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Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> Another good reason to discourage the use of HTML in email :-)
You mean like this?
(setq mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext"))
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Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
Sharon writes: > at last I can see html-like emails using 'shr'. Before I used 'w3m', > and I could right-click a link and then copy the url to the clipboard > for pasting into a browser. Unfortunately I've now lost that ability > through using 'shr'. > Do you know how I can regain the right-click of the mouse ability > please? No. However, if I left-click on a link in an article, it opens in my default browser. If I press u with point on the link in the article, the URL is copied to the clipboard. If I press w in the *Summary* buffer, Gnus will open the link in the article in my default browser - prompting if there is more than one link. Are any of those options useful for you? Best regards, Adam -- "Who's got time for this nonsense! I'm a busy guy! Adam Sjøgren I've got things to do! The *last* thing *I* need is a...@koldfront.dk to stand around with my nose in some silly plant!"
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
physiculus writes: > i set shr-use-fonts and shr-use-colors to t. Ok, those are the defaults, so you had configured them previously, I guess? > but now the colors in html mails from other poeple are mostly terrible. > too light or too dark, no real good mix. Another good reason to discourage the use of HTML in email :-) Best regards, Adam -- "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind ofAdam Sjøgren confusion of ideas that could provoke such a a...@koldfront.dk question."
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
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Adam Sjøgren writes:
>
> Are you talking about emails in HTML format, and/or in both text and
> HTML?
>
> The default is to render them with shr, which does a pretty good job of
> showing such formatting.
>
> Do you have an example you can share?
>
> Do you have any configuration set up to prefer text/ignore HTML?
>
> E.g. I have:
>
> ;; Don't display html inline
> (setq
>mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched")
>mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display))
>
> which is the opposite of what you want. At work I have configured Gnus
> the other way around, i.e. to display text/html.
>
> What is the value of mm-text-html-renderer in your setup?
>
> ,[ C-h v mm-text-html-renderer RET ]
> | mm-text-html-renderer is a variable defined in ‘mm-decode.el’.
> |
> | Its value is ‘shr’
> |
> | You can customize this variable.
> | This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
> | version 27.1 of Emacs.
> | Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 27.1.
> |
> | Render of HTML contents.
> | It is one of defined renderer types, or a rendering function.
> | The defined renderer types are:
> | ‘shr’: use the built-in Gnus HTML renderer;
> | ‘gnus-w3m’: use Gnus renderer based on w3m;
> | ‘w3m’: use emacs-w3m;
> | ‘w3m-standalone’: use plain w3m;
> | ‘links’: use links;
> | ‘lynx’: use lynx;
> | ‘html2text’: use html2text.
> `
>
> In my experience the default, shr, is preferable for HTML email.
>
Hi Adam.
Your comment above scratched an itch I've had for several years now, at
last I can see html-like emails using 'shr'. Before I used 'w3m', and I
could right-click a link and then copy the url to the clipboard for
pasting into a browser. Unfortunately I've now lost that ability through
using 'shr'.
Do you know how I can regain the right-click of the mouse ability please?
Thanks
Sharon.
- --
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Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
hello, i set shr-use-fonts and shr-use-colors to t. but now the colors in html mails from other poeple are mostly terrible. too light or too dark, no real good mix. regards poul
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
physiculus writes: > I'm on a step forward! What did you change? > colors are correct. > bold, italics are correct. > font sizes not. That's also what you saw on my screenshot. physiculus writes: > Is it possible, that this is a bug in shr? Yes, or perhaps a feature. Best regards, Adam -- "En monoton vers behöver en stark refräng" Adam Sjøgren a...@koldfront.dk
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
Am Mo, 2021-09-20, 19:25 +0200, physiculus schrieb: > Am Mo, 2021-09-20, 08:50 +0200, Adam Sjgren schrieb: > > I'm on a step forward! > colors are correct. > bold, italics are correct. > font sizes not. > > here is the raw html. > Ein, zwei Wrter in unterschiedlichen Gren > Grensize="+3">Gren > > command C-u C-x = dont show a different face, only variable-pitch Height > 1.0 > so i guess a render component don't recognize the html font size factor. > > Any ideas? I find out that rendering this message with external browser works! command K H Is it possible, that this is a bug in shr? > > Regards > Poul > > >> physiculus writes: >> >>> i changed my settings and now gnus display bold and italics and bold. >>> but no color and no font sizes. >>> >>> do you know why? >> >> No. I'm guessing it is something in your configuration. Have you changed >> it to display the HTML part or the text part? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Adam -- Jens Reimer
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
Am Mo, 2021-09-20, 08:50 +0200, Adam Sjøgren schrieb: I'm on a step forward! colors are correct. bold, italics are correct. font sizes not. here is the raw html. Ein, zwei W¶rter in unterschiedlichen Gr¶en Gr¶en Gr¶en command C-u C-x = dont show a different face, only variable-pitch Height 1.0 so i guess a render component don't recognize the html font size factor. Any ideas? Regards Poul > physiculus writes: > >> i changed my settings and now gnus display bold and italics and bold. >> but no color and no font sizes. >> >> do you know why? > > No. I'm guessing it is something in your configuration. Have you changed > it to display the HTML part or the text part? > > > Best regards, > > Adam -- Jens Reimer
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
I changed it to display html part. Perhaps an issue in my shr configuration or gnus? I dont know 🤔 Von: Adam Sjøgren An: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Datum: 20.09.2021 08:51:20 Betreff: Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes physiculus writes: i changed my settings and now gnus display bold and italics and bold. but no color and no font sizes. do you know why? No. I'm guessing it is something in your configuration. Have you changed it to display the HTML part or the text part? Best regards, Adam -- "They are very important clients, they can't wait." Adam Sjøgren "They're about to." a...@koldfront.dk
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
physiculus writes: > i changed my settings and now gnus display bold and italics and bold. > but no color and no font sizes. > > do you know why? No. I'm guessing it is something in your configuration. Have you changed it to display the HTML part or the text part? Best regards, Adam -- "They are very important clients, they can't wait."Adam Sjøgren "They're about to." a...@koldfront.dk
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
Am So, 2021-09-19, 22:03 +0200, Adam Sjøgren schrieb:
Hello,
i changed my settings and now gnus display bold and italics and bold.
but no color and no font sizes.
do you know why?
regards
poul
> physiculus writes:
>
>> here is a message:
>
> This is what that email looks like in my Gnus:
>
> · https://koldfront.dk/misc/gnus/email-screenshot.png
>
> (when I remove "text/html" from mm-discouraged-alternatives, and leave
> "text/html" in mm-automatic-display).
>
> It looks like the only thing shr ignores is the font size part.
>
>>> Do you have any configuration set up to prefer text/ignore HTML?
>>>
>>> E.g. I have:
>>>
>>> ;; Don't display html inline
>>> (setq
>>>mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext"
>>> "text/enriched")
>>>mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display))
>
>> Here is my setting:
>> Its value is ("text/html" "text/richtext" "image/.*")
>
> Well, there's your problem. You've told Gnus to prefer not displaying
> text/html.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
--
Jens Reimer
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
physiculus writes:
> here is a message:
This is what that email looks like in my Gnus:
· https://koldfront.dk/misc/gnus/email-screenshot.png
(when I remove "text/html" from mm-discouraged-alternatives, and leave
"text/html" in mm-automatic-display).
It looks like the only thing shr ignores is the font size part.
>> Do you have any configuration set up to prefer text/ignore HTML?
>>
>> E.g. I have:
>>
>> ;; Don't display html inline
>> (setq
>>mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched")
>>mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display))
> Here is my setting:
> Its value is ("text/html" "text/richtext" "image/.*")
Well, there's your problem. You've told Gnus to prefer not displaying
text/html.
Best regards,
Adam
--
"And when your friends begin to lose their way... Adam Sjøgren
Don't look back just helpyourselfish"a...@koldfront.dk
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
Hello,
thanks for the quick answer.
hope my edit helps
Regards
Poul
Am So, 2021-09-19, 20:11 +0200, Adam Sjøgren schrieb:
> physiculus writes:
>
>> my wife sends messages with thunderbird, but inside gnus these things are
>> gone.
>> Is it possible with gnus to show the messages with these attributes?
>
> Are you talking about emails in HTML format, and/or in both text and
> HTML?
>
> The default is to render them with shr, which does a pretty good job of
> showing such formatting.
>
> Do you have an example you can share?
here is a message:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.14.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="4E1A7030A865AFAD184E7054"
X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;x...@xxx.de;1632035349;53830b03;
X-HE-SMSGID: 1mRqwn-0003bK-6G
X-HE-Virus-Scanned: Yes
Old-X-HE-Spam-Score: -0.6
Old-X-HE-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-0.6 points)
pts rule name description
-- --
-0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/,
low trust
[80.237.132.77 listed in list.dnswl.org]
0.0 HTML_FONT_SIZE_LARGE BODY: HTML font size is large
0.1 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message
0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3)
[80.237.132.77 listed in wl.mailspike.net]
0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders
Envelope-to: x...@xxx.de
X-HE-Spam-Score: 0.0
X-HE-Spam-Report: Customer whitelisted
X-HE-Spam-Level: /
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--4E1A7030A865AFAD184E7054
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Ich schreibe hier ein Text f¼r dich zum testen:
Ein, zwei W¶rter farbig farbig
Ein, zwei W¶rter *fett fett*
Ein, zwei W¶rter /kursiv kursiv/
Ein, zwei W¶rter in unterschiedlichen Gr¶en Gr¶en Gr¶en
--4E1A7030A865AFAD184E7054
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Ich schreibe hier ein Text f¼r dich zum testen
Ein, zwei W¶rter farbig farbig
Ein, zwei W¶rter fett fett
Ein, zwei W¶rter kursiv kursiv
Ein, zwei W¶rter in unterschiedlichen Gr¶en
Gr¶en Gr¶en
--4E1A7030A865AFAD184E7054--
>
> Do you have any configuration set up to prefer text/ignore HTML?
>
> E.g. I have:
>
> ;; Don't display html inline
> (setq
>mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched")
>mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display))
Here is my setting:
Its value is ("text/html" "text/richtext" "image/.*")
and
Its value is
("text/plain" "text/enriched" "text/richtext" "text/html" "text/x-verbatim"
"text/calendar" "text/x-vcard" "image/.*" "message/delivery-status"
"multipart/.*" "message/rfc822" "text/x-patch" "text/dns"
"application/pgp-signature" "application/emacs-lisp" "application/x-emacs-lisp"
"application/x-pkcs7-signature" "application/pkcs7-signature"
"application/x-pkcs7-mime" "application/pkcs7-mime" "application/pgp\\'"
"text/x-org")
>
> which is the opposite of what you want. At work I have configured Gnus
> the other way around, i.e. to display text/html.
>
> What is the value of mm-text-html-renderer in your setup?
my setting:
Its value is shr
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
--
Jens Reimer
Re: [question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
physiculus writes:
> my wife sends messages with thunderbird, but inside gnus these things are
> gone.
> Is it possible with gnus to show the messages with these attributes?
Are you talking about emails in HTML format, and/or in both text and
HTML?
The default is to render them with shr, which does a pretty good job of
showing such formatting.
Do you have an example you can share?
Do you have any configuration set up to prefer text/ignore HTML?
E.g. I have:
;; Don't display html inline
(setq
mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext" "text/enriched")
mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display))
which is the opposite of what you want. At work I have configured Gnus
the other way around, i.e. to display text/html.
What is the value of mm-text-html-renderer in your setup?
,[ C-h v mm-text-html-renderer RET ]
| mm-text-html-renderer is a variable defined in ‘mm-decode.el’.
|
| Its value is ‘shr’
|
| You can customize this variable.
| This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
| version 27.1 of Emacs.
| Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 27.1.
|
| Render of HTML contents.
| It is one of defined renderer types, or a rendering function.
| The defined renderer types are:
| ‘shr’: use the built-in Gnus HTML renderer;
| ‘gnus-w3m’: use Gnus renderer based on w3m;
| ‘w3m’: use emacs-w3m;
| ‘w3m-standalone’: use plain w3m;
| ‘links’: use links;
| ‘lynx’: use lynx;
| ‘html2text’: use html2text.
`
In my experience the default, shr, is preferable for HTML email.
Best regards,
Adam
--
"Unfortunately, much of the Web is like an anthill Adam Sjøgren
built by ants on LSD"a...@koldfront.dk
[question] how show messages with bold or colored or different font sizes
hello, i wonder how i could see received messages with bold, italic or underlined text. Or text with colored words or text with different font sizes. my wife sends messages with thunderbird, but inside gnus these things are gone. Is it possible with gnus to show the messages with these attributes? regards Poul
