XNAY (was: gnus hanging - how to see what it is doing)

2014-08-31 Thread Peter Münster
On Sun, Aug 31 2014, David Hume wrote:

 I think I set that header so my articles would not be preserved in
 google groups for all eternity.

Sure, XNAY prevents *your* articles from being archived.
But anybody (except for Adam Sjøgren ;) can quote your text (or parts of
your text taken out of context), and that will be archived.

My message-cite-articles-with-x-no-archive is t, so this message will
stay understandable in the future... ;)

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Re: XNAY (was: gnus hanging - how to see what it is doing)

2014-08-31 Thread Emanuel Berg
Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr writes:

 I think I set that header so my articles would not
 be preserved in google groups for all eternity.

 Sure, XNAY prevents *your* articles from being
 archived. But anybody (except for Adam Sjøgren ;) can
 quote your text (or parts of your text taken out of
 context), and that will be archived.

Indeed. So the end result is: it can still get
archived, only you don't know if it is, and if it is,
it may be incomplete. What I can see it is much worse
than just let it all be in the open. That way you will
know it is archived if you ever need to return to the
conversation (which frequently happens to me). And,
whenever so, the conversation will be completely
archived, not fragmentarily at the mercy of the
quoters.

By the way, XNAY is X-No-Archive: Yes.

 My message-cite-articles-with-x-no-archive is t, so
 this message will stay understandable in the
 future

Mine is too and I don't remember setting that. Actually
let me check that: no, I didn't. That tells me only
people like Comrade Sjøgren are respectful enough to
honor that header. By default Gnus don't (I did 'emacs
-Q', then (require 'message) and `M-x describe-variable
message-cite-articles-with-x-no-archive').

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