Re: Sysadmin Main Membership

2023-01-21 Thread Jonathan Steffan
Kevin,

sysadmin-web sounds great. I just wanted to be able to address the issues I
was observing and help out the project. I would like to be able to evaluate
#fedora-noc alerts and help track down any issues. Sounds like sysadmin-web
would be the right membership for now.

I'll keep contributing again and work on qualification for sysadmin-main.
Thanks for the guidance.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 12:45 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 03:53:25AM -0700, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
> > Fedora Infra Team,
>
> Hey!
>
> > I was looking into some delays/failures on the main web properties and
> > noticed a couple nodes are likely the cause. Please see
> > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11097 for details.
>
> Yeah, all fixed now. I'm still not sure of the root cause.
>
> > I would like to be considered for sysadmin-main again. I've been a
> > long-term contributor, have had access before, and would like to
> contribute
> > again.
>
> Well, to work on the sort of thing above, it would only need someone
> from sysadmin-web. It's unfortunate none of them were around last night
> when I was sleeping. ;(
>
> I'd be happy to add you there if you want to be able to troubleshoot
> these kinds of things moving forward. ;)
>
> sysadmin-main is our very small core group of people who basically have
> root access to (almost) everything. I am not sure we have it documented
> clearly, but the process for joining that group is:
>
> * Be "around" and fixing things for a while (a year or more). Around
>   enough that the group knows who you are and how you work.
>
> * Complete a "big project" for infrastructure. This is something like
>   deploying a new complex application or reworking something important,
>   or upgrading something very complex. This proves to the group that you
>   know how to do the work.
>
> * finally, someone in the group sees the above, asks you if you are
>   willing to join the group and then proposes that to the rest of the
>   group if you say yes. The group then votes/provides feedback.
>
> We really try and be carefull with main because it has access to
> everything.
>
> Anyhow, if you want to join sysadmin-web (with access to proxies) just
> let me know.
>
> And thanks for the troubleshooting.
>
> kevin
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Re: Sysadmin Main Membership

2023-01-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 03:53:25AM -0700, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
> Fedora Infra Team,

Hey!

> I was looking into some delays/failures on the main web properties and
> noticed a couple nodes are likely the cause. Please see
> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11097 for details.

Yeah, all fixed now. I'm still not sure of the root cause. 

> I would like to be considered for sysadmin-main again. I've been a
> long-term contributor, have had access before, and would like to contribute
> again.

Well, to work on the sort of thing above, it would only need someone
from sysadmin-web. It's unfortunate none of them were around last night
when I was sleeping. ;(

I'd be happy to add you there if you want to be able to troubleshoot
these kinds of things moving forward. ;) 

sysadmin-main is our very small core group of people who basically have
root access to (almost) everything. I am not sure we have it documented
clearly, but the process for joining that group is: 

* Be "around" and fixing things for a while (a year or more). Around
  enough that the group knows who you are and how you work. 

* Complete a "big project" for infrastructure. This is something like
  deploying a new complex application or reworking something important,
  or upgrading something very complex. This proves to the group that you
  know how to do the work.

* finally, someone in the group sees the above, asks you if you are
  willing to join the group and then proposes that to the rest of the
  group if you say yes. The group then votes/provides feedback. 

We really try and be carefull with main because it has access to
everything. 

Anyhow, if you want to join sysadmin-web (with access to proxies) just
let me know. 

And thanks for the troubleshooting. 

kevin


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