Re: [Inkscape-board] GSoC Mentor Summit/Reunion

2014-06-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 12:18:27PM -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Bryce Harrington br...@bryceharrington.org
  wrote:
 
  Yeah, especially for mentors who regularly contribute the $500 back to
  Inkscape, I think that's an easy 'yes' if they wish to go.
 
 
 Agreed.
 
 BTW, I was really hoping others would have chimed in by now... :-/

You might CC in any mentors or other non-board folk that might be
interested.  Even though they won't be voting, would be good to hear
their perspective.

  One thing to keep in mind though is that $1500 is about what it'd cost
  to send someone to LGM next year, so we should consider which would
  return more to the project.  In the case of a GSoC admin, going to the
  GSoC event is a no-brainer; for someone that's more focused on graphics
  contributions, sending them to LGM or the Boston hackfest might be more
  rewarding for them.
 
 
 This is a very good point. Something to consider, it looks like next year
 (2015) LGM will be in Toronto, so it is another event in North America in
 less than a year from the Reunion. Plus with a possible Boston hackfest,
 that makes for another possible NA event.

Are you thinking we're going to be heavily NA weighted for the next bit?
Maybe to even things out we could look into funding something in europe
some time in 2015.

The quantity of events also may be a concern.  I haven't yet looked up
what our income and expenses were for last year, but I'm going to guess
something on the order of $10,000 give or take a few thousand either
direction.  So, using that WAG, $2-5k for 3 or 4 events a year seems
within reason.

  What if we offered $1500 for people who have served as GSoC admins 2 or
  more years, $1000 for people who have mentored 2 or more years, and $500
  for students that have continued contributing outside of GSoC?
 
 I think it seems fair, but would not be opposed to hearing from others. If
 we don't see any more suggestions or opposition, we should put put it up
 for a vote later this week. The 16th is the deadline to enter the lottery,
 so we want to at least give them a week to enter if possible should we vote
 to provide funding.

Okay.  Can we count on you to be the event coordinator for this one, to
be the point of contact for attendees and to collect expense info and so
on?  If so, I can take care of writing up the referendum and run it by
you in the next day or two.

Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-board] Legal Statement for Output

2014-06-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:42:06PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've been following a Gimp thread about the restrictions or limitations
 on the creative output in Gimp. Of course there is no restriction and
 our license covers the software not the output. But some companies are
 concerned or have questions.
 
 So the question is: Should we put a notice/disclaimer/information in the
 about screen stating in plain [local-language] that output from inkscape
 is not restricted/copyrighted/limited and is owned by the creator suject
 to local laws etc etc.
 
 I'm not sure of the wording and maybe the SFLC could help bake a nice
 sentence for multiple Free Software creative groups.
 
 Thoughts?

Just last month I had an email from a professor who needed to have
written permission from me to allow Inkscape to be installed on her
university's servers for students to download.

Over the years I've fielded a lot of these types of questions.  I've
never had someone ask about licensing of the program *output*, but it
certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear one.

However, I'd suggest instead of putting a statement on this specific
point in the about screen, to link back to the website where we have
more control.  That way we can provide updated info, explain things in
more detail, and link them to official stuff as needed.  Maybe point it
to the Legal section of the FAQ, and add items for licensing of output,
etc. etc.

Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-board] GSoC Mentor Summit/Reunion

2014-06-04 Thread Josh Andler
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Bryce Harrington br...@bryceharrington.org
wrote:

 You might CC in any mentors or other non-board folk that might be
 interested.  Even though they won't be voting, would be good to hear
 their perspective.


Good suggestion, I will attempt to do so.


 Are you thinking we're going to be heavily NA weighted for the next bit?
 Maybe to even things out we could look into funding something in europe
 some time in 2015.

 The quantity of events also may be a concern.  I haven't yet looked up
 what our income and expenses were for last year, but I'm going to guess
 something on the order of $10,000 give or take a few thousand either
 direction.  So, using that WAG, $2-5k for 3 or 4 events a year seems
 within reason.



Yeah, we're definitely a bit NA weighted for the next short period. They
have already decided that LGM in 2016 will be in London, so it's good for
us to just be aware of that. There's part of me that wonders if LGM 2015
could tie into the possible Boston hackfest given the close relative
proximity geographically and IMHO it being a good idea to limit the number
of events we have (at least at this stage and with the current size of our
dev community). I'm definitely not opposed to the Boston event being a
completely separate event, we just might have an opportunity to get a few
more people there with LGM tied in.



 Okay.  Can we count on you to be the event coordinator for this one, to
 be the point of contact for attendees and to collect expense info and so
 on?  If so, I can take care of writing up the referendum and run it by
 you in the next day or two.



Yes, I will be the event coordinator on this one. Thank you for offering to
write up the referendum.

Cheers,
Josh
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Re: [Inkscape-board] GSoC Mentor Summit/Reunion

2014-06-04 Thread Tavmjong Bah
On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 07:26 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
 Hello Board,
 
 
 TL;DR first: Does the board want to fund any additional delegates
 travel  room expenses for the reunion if we have anyone chosen by the
 lottery?

First, let me say that having attended the last two GSoC mentor summits
that they are worth attending for anyone who is going to be
administering or mentoring in future years. I am also interested in
attending this year as it might allow me to attend TPAC, the yearly
gathering of all W3C working groups including the SVG and CSS working
groups which is the week after in Santa Clara.

But if I weigh the value to Inkscape of sending developers to the GSoC
mentor summit or spending the money to send them to LGM or a hackfest,
the latter clearly win out. The GSoC summit is a whirlwind of activity,
you are in, attend sessions with other open source projects (many you
will never have heard of), eat lots of food, and then are gone. There is
no real time for anything else. The LGM is a more leisurely meeting with
plenty of time for discussions with other Inkscapers and with others
working on graphics software as well as a bit of hacking. A hackfest
would even be better. Combining LGM with a hackfest in Boston sounds
really good.

Tav

PS. How much is in our kitty?




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Re: [Inkscape-board] GSoC Mentor Summit/Reunion

2014-06-04 Thread Tavmjong Bah
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 23:29 -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 19:42 +0200, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
  Combining LGM with a hackfest in Boston sounds
  really good.
 
 This sounds very interesting, although I quite fancy a trip home (to
 London or wherever) if LGM will be in London.
 
 Not sure how this complicates things. Maybe I can clone myself ;-)
 
 Martin,

Next year's LGM is in Toronto... so a a hackfest in Boston just after
would mean those attending both from outside of North America would be
making one long distance trip. The 2016 LGM is in London.

Tav




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