Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Oh, thanks Martin! When I test, I can see some extra blank space shows up, when Extensions category is selected. But there aren't any buttons, it's just blank space underneath the message box. I'm using SeaMonkey browser. Let me try with Firefox No, it's still blank space with Firefox too. Thanks again, brynn -Original Message- From: Martin Owens Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:38 PM To: brynn ; Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, brynn wrote: Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and versions. Hello, Victor, Maren and Brynn, could you test the function I've just added to the upload form. It adds a drop down of selectable tags which only appear when you select a category that this group of tags is associated with. It uses the same selection as the gallery/category pages do (so for extensions we have a ready made list of options) https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ It may need some tweaks, but I wanted to get the format in front of you sooner so you can try it out. Best Regards, Martin Owens Websites ᴙ Us -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Am 20.06.2018 um 00:30 schrieb docto...@gmail.com: > Gracias Jabier, > > And thanks everyone for testing. > >> Great work. Maybe if the dropdown is changed to a multiselect on >> click become more easy to use, and become a dropdown on unfocus. Just >> a idea. > > I did experiment with a multi-select and even a checkbox based widget. > The advantages of the dropdowns where it's use of existing code (no > need to include more js) and it's consistency with other dropdowns > overall. - One disadvantage I see with the current version is that it may look like people need to upload their extension three times, once for each OS - or like they can only choose one OS. Maybe it's just me, but I think that could become a source of misunderstandings. Maren >> One question in licensed type why not put in the dropdown a extra >> info >> in GPLV2 "(as inkscape)" or something similar to help integrating >> things into the codebase. > > This is harder to think about. Changing the name is an administrative > action (not a coding one) so one could change it any time. But it'd > also change the display, the search text and any other place GPL would > show otherwise. > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Gracias Jabier, And thanks everyone for testing. > Great work. Maybe if the dropdown is changed to a multiselect on > click become more easy to use, and become a dropdown on unfocus. Just > a idea. I did experiment with a multi-select and even a checkbox based widget. The advantages of the dropdowns where it's use of existing code (no need to include more js) and it's consistency with other dropdowns overall. > One question in licensed type why not put in the dropdown a extra > info > in GPLV2 "(as inkscape)" or something similar to help integrating > things into the codebase. This is harder to think about. Changing the name is an administrative action (not a coding one) so one could change it any time. But it'd also change the display, the search text and any other place GPL would show otherwise. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
I agree about the multiselect (but don't like the design too much, I think it's better to have the items more separate, like it's done in Martin's version). Jabier, as a non-smartphone owner, I wonder how does multiselect work without a keyboard? (we've recently had an m23 user who didn't even think of using Ctrl to select multiple options...). Click-activate, click-deactivate would be useful then, I assume? Maren Am 19.06.2018 um 22:31 schrieb Jabier Arraiza: > Or maybe all the whole tags can be handled by one only multiselect with > 3 groups. > https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85screenshot-from-2018-06-19-22-28-49 > > Regards. > > On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 14:38 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: >> On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, brynn wrote: >>> Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and >>> versions. >> >> Hello, >> >> Victor, Maren and Brynn, could you test the function I've just added >> to >> the upload form. It adds a drop down of selectable tags which only >> appear when you select a category that this group of tags is >> associated >> with. It uses the same selection as the gallery/category pages do (so >> for extensions we have a ready made list of options) >> >> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ >> >> It may need some tweaks, but I wanted to get the format in front of >> you >> sooner so you can try it out. >> >> Best Regards, Martin Owens >> Websites ᴙ Us >> >> --- >> --- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> ___ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> >> >> -- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> >> >> ___ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Really nice work Martin. I like it. I think it is a good start. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 1:32 PM Jabier Arraiza, wrote: > Or maybe all the whole tags can be handled by one only multiselect with > 3 groups. > > https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85screenshot-from-2018-06-19-22-28-49 > > Regards. > > On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 14:38 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > > > Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and > > > versions. > > > > Hello, > > > > Victor, Maren and Brynn, could you test the function I've just added > > to > > the upload form. It adds a drop down of selectable tags which only > > appear when you select a category that this group of tags is > > associated > > with. It uses the same selection as the gallery/category pages do (so > > for extensions we have a ready made list of options) > > > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ > > > > It may need some tweaks, but I wanted to get the format in front of > > you > > sooner so you can try it out. > > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > Websites ᴙ Us > > > > --- > > --- > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > ___ > > Inkscape-docs mailing list > > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Or maybe all the whole tags can be handled by one only multiselect with 3 groups. https://inkscape.org/en/~jabiertxof/%E2%98%85screenshot-from-2018-06-19-22-28-49 Regards. On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 14:38 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > > Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and > > versions. > > Hello, > > Victor, Maren and Brynn, could you test the function I've just added > to > the upload form. It adds a drop down of selectable tags which only > appear when you select a category that this group of tags is > associated > with. It uses the same selection as the gallery/category pages do (so > for extensions we have a ready made list of options) > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ > > It may need some tweaks, but I wanted to get the format in front of > you > sooner so you can try it out. > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > Websites ᴙ Us > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
Great work. Maybe if the dropdown is changed to a multiselect on click become more easy to use, and become a dropdown on unfocus. Just a idea. One question in licensed type why not put in the dropdown a extra info in GPLV2 "(as inkscape)" or something similar to help integrating things into the codebase. Regards, Jabier. On Tue, 2018-06-19 at 14:38 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > > Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and > > versions. > > Hello, > > Victor, Maren and Brynn, could you test the function I've just added > to > the upload form. It adds a drop down of selectable tags which only > appear when you select a category that this group of tags is > associated > with. It uses the same selection as the gallery/category pages do (so > for extensions we have a ready made list of options) > > https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ > > It may need some tweaks, but I wanted to get the format in front of > you > sooner so you can try it out. > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > Websites ᴙ Us > > --- > --- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Inkscape-docs mailing list > Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, brynn wrote: > Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and > versions. Hello, Victor, Maren and Brynn, could you test the function I've just added to the upload form. It adds a drop down of selectable tags which only appear when you select a category that this group of tags is associated with. It uses the same selection as the gallery/category pages do (so for extensions we have a ready made list of options) https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ It may need some tweaks, but I wanted to get the format in front of you sooner so you can try it out. Best Regards, Martin Owens Websites ᴙ Us -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed
I think this can be handy: https://medium.com/@xaviju/inkscape-extensions-by-non-developers-for-non-developers-a-primer-b272dda360fe Regards. -Original Message- From: brynn To: Victor Westmann Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:38:22 -0600 We already have this guide to writing extensions: https://inkscape.org/en/develop/extensions/ As far as I understand, it could use some "fleshing out" in some places. But mostly writing extensions is over my head, so someone else would have to point out which places need more work. At the bottom of the page tells about publishing therm. Is that what you were thinking of? Or did you have something else in mind? It's just that not all people who write extensions will see that, or necessarily want to put them in the gallery. That's why my original message was about finding people to test them. But now, I'm thinking it might be better to just remind the developers to include the Inkscape versions and operating systems which it works with, when they upload them. brynn -Original Message- From: Victor Westmann Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:13 PM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed Is it possible for us to create a draft of a HOW TO PUBLISH YOUR EXTENSIONS for the Inkscape project form the Gitlab wiki pages? If yes I/we can draft something. What do you think? Do we have a central place to host the extensions of at least to guide users/developers on how to create/distribute them? --Victor Westmann On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 6:23 PM, brynn wrote: Yes, it could be something like check boxes for the systems and versions. We do already have the possibility for the developer to use tags to indicate this. But I haven't seen them being used consistently. Some developers seem to use some of them, but not all, and not all devs are using them. (In some cases, I'm just happy that the developer has uploaded to the gallery at all. But on the other hand, it would be SO nice to have this info available for users.) I can understand how it would take some extra time and energy (for the website developers) to make checkboxes or something. But I would be happy if just a sentence or 2 could be displayed. Something like "Please indicate all Inkscape versions which this extension is known to work with, as well as all operating systems." I'm not sure what you mean with "extract and copy" or "need to install". Unless it's something about the Django code? brynn -Original Message- From: Victor Westmann Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 8:56 AM To: Brynn Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] extension testers needed Compatible with: Win, Mac, Linux ■ Inkscape 0.92.3/+ ■ Extract and copy files ? (No) Need to install? (Yes) Something similar to this? On Sat, Jun 16, 2018, 11:33 PM brynn, wrote: Actually I just had another thought about this. Is it unreasonable to expect that the extension developer knows which versions or operating systems their extension works with? Why not make sure the developer shares that when the extension is released to the community? Would it be possible to have extra fields be displayed, in the upload form, when the Extensions category is chosen? Is there any way to configure the upload form, so that info has to be provided, before it will upload? Or if not mandatory fields, would it be possible to just display a prominent notice, when the Extensions category is selected, asking the developer to please, please, please include that info? All best, brynn - - Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs
