[Int-area] Identification Extension for the Internet followup

2023-11-09 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Hello, we ran out of time during this talk today and some comments were made at 
the microphone
afterwards for which there was no time for follow-up. To address a couple of 
the comments:

Comment: Fragmentation is fragile on the open Internet
Response: Yes, and that is documented in [RFC8900]. What this draft seeks to do 
is to make
fragmentation robust within limited domains [RFC8799]. This draft therefore 
proposes to
update [RFC8900].

Comment: Is the performance dependent on having the machines connected over a 
point-to-point
link instead of a real network?
Response: Increasing the transport protocol segment size increases performance 
*for that end
system pair* regardless of how the segments are carried in the underlying 
Internetwork (i.e.,
either as whole IP packets or IP fragments) and regardless of the number of 
intermediate
systems (routers). This is true even if the segment size exceeds the path MTU.

Comment: Does a single transport protocol end system pair benefit at the 
expense of degrading
performance for others?
Response: All end systems should get better performance using larger transport 
protocol
segment sizes, whether the segments are forwarded as whole IP packets or IP 
fragments.

Comment: What does this do to routers?
Response: The fragmentation and reassembly procedures are conducted by end 
systems; not
routers. In the event that a router is required to perform network 
fragmentation, it sends an
ICMP to the source (subject to rate limiting) requesting a smaller fragment 
size so that it will
not have to fragment future packets. Routers otherwise forward IP fragments the 
same as
for any IP packet.

It would be interesting to receive feedback on these points. If there were 
other comments
that I missed, or if I have somehow mis-characterized the ones captured above, 
please let
me know.

Thank you - Fred

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Re: [Int-area] [IANA #1287329] expert review for draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis (ethernet-numbers)

2023-11-09 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Eliot,

Thanks,
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On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 9:12 AM Eliot Lear  wrote:
>
> They seem ok.
>
> Eliot
>
> On 09.11.2023 13:22, Sabrina Tanamal via RT wrote:
> > Hi Eliot and Dan (cc: intarea wg),
> >
> > Can one of you review the LLDP TLV Subtype changes in this newly approved 
> > document draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis for us?
> >
> > Please see
> >
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-11#section-5.8
> >
> > If these are OK, we'll make the changes now.
> >
> > Please note that this registry was recently moved to the IANA OUI Ethernet 
> > Numbers registry group:
> >
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/ethernet-numbers
> >
> > Please review by November 24th.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sabrina
> >
>
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Re: [Int-area] [IANA #1287329] expert review for draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis (ethernet-numbers)

2023-11-09 Thread Eliot Lear

They seem ok.

Eliot

On 09.11.2023 13:22, Sabrina Tanamal via RT wrote:

Hi Eliot and Dan (cc: intarea wg),

Can one of you review the LLDP TLV Subtype changes in this newly approved 
document draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis for us?

Please see

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-11#section-5.8

If these are OK, we'll make the changes now.

Please note that this registry was recently moved to the IANA OUI Ethernet 
Numbers registry group:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/ethernet-numbers

Please review by November 24th.

Thanks,
Sabrina



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[Int-area] [IANA #1287329] expert review for draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis (ethernet-numbers)

2023-11-09 Thread Sabrina Tanamal via RT
Hi Eliot and Dan (cc: intarea wg), 

Can one of you review the LLDP TLV Subtype changes in this newly approved 
document draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis for us?

Please see

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-11#section-5.8

If these are OK, we'll make the changes now.

Please note that this registry was recently moved to the IANA OUI Ethernet 
Numbers registry group: 

https://www.iana.org/assignments/ethernet-numbers

Please review by November 24th.

Thanks,
Sabrina

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