[Int-area] FW: Call for volunteers

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

Please consider volunteering for NomCom.


Thanks,
Juan Carlos & Wassim


On 5/8/24, 1:11 PM, "NomCom Chair 2024"  wrote:

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The IETF Nominating Committee (NomCom) appoints people to fill the open slots 
on the IETF LLC, IETF Trust, the IAB, and the IESG. Ten voting members for the 
NomCom are selected in a verifiably random way from a pool of volunteers. We 
already received 32 eligible volunteers, but please volunteer. A large pool of 
volunteers helps make the process work better.

CLICK HERE TO VOLUNTEER: 
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NomCom activity is expected to start in July 2024 and run through to November 
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The NomCom activities involve collecting requirements from the community, 
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You can also volunteer by sending me an email.

Within the two weeks, I will add more details on the timeline and the selection 
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF119

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Thursday, March 21st, 
please send agenda requests to the WG chairs using: 
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Please indicate draft name, short abstract and time requested.


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[Int-area] FW: NomCom 2023 Needs Your Feedback

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

Please consider providing feedback to NomCom.


Thanks,
Wassim H.



On 11/6/23, 7:26 AM, "IETF-Announce"  wrote:

Hi,

The NomCom met yesterday decided to keep feedback open until 1200 Friday (CET). 
 We hope to be able to make some decisions on Friday afternoon.

Feedback is welcome in many forms:

 - The web: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2023/feedback/

 - Email: nomcom-2...@ietf.org

 - In person: The NomCom will be operating office hours during IETF 118 (see 
below).  Look for NomCom members (we will have an orange dot on our badges).

 - Anonymously/indirectly: We don't have an anonymous feedback system, but any 
member of the IETF community can submit feedback on behalf of another person.  
I am happy to do this for you and have asked that NomCom members also offer to 
accept anonymous feedback.

The NomCom has an office on the Lobby level of the Hilton if you want to come 
in person to provide feedback.  The following times are when the London room is 
currently open (all Prague local time):

Monday: 10:30-12:00, 13:00-16:30, 17:30-18:30
Tuesday: 08:30-09:30, 11:30-12:00, 15:00-15:30, 16:30-18:00
Wednesday: 09:30-10:30, 11:30-12:00, 14:00-14:30, 15:30-16:30
Thursday: 08:30-09:30, 11:30-12:00, 14:30-18:30
Friday: 08:30-12:00

Please knock if the door is closed.  We might be interviewing or talking to 
someone.  If you would like to reserve some of the above time in advance, send 
me a note.  If the room is vacant, send me a note, I might be conducting 
interviews in the Brussels room next door.

Thanks to everyone who has provided feedback already.  The NomCom depends 
greatly on community feedback for making the best decisions.  We treat all 
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF118

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Thursday, November 09th, 
please send agenda requests to the WG chairs using: 
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Please indicate draft name, short abstract and time requested.


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[Int-area] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-08

[Wassim Haddad via Datatracker]

Wassim Haddad has requested publication of draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-08 as 
Best Current Practice on behalf of the INTAREA working group.

Please verify the document's state at 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis/


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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF117

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Tuesday, July 25th, 
please send agenda requests to the WG chairs using: 
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Please indicate draft name, short abstract and time requested.


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[Int-area] FW: NomCom 2023 Call for Volunteers

[Wassim Haddad]

Please consider volunteering for NomCom.


Thanks,
Wassim H.


On 6/5/23, 4:50 PM, "IETF-Announce"  wrote:

The IETF Nominating Committee (NomCom) appoints people to fill the open slots 
on the IETF LLC, IETF Trust, the IAB, and the IESG.  Ten voting members for the 
NomCom are selected from a pool of volunteers.  A large pool of volunteers 
helps make the process work better.

CLICK HERE TO VOLUNTEER: https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/volunteer

NomCom activity is expected to start in July and run through to November.  The 
goal is to do the bulk of the work at IETF 117 and 118, with supplemental 
conference calls between those times.  Remote participation will be supported.

The NomCom activities involve collecting requirements from the community, 
reviewing candidate responses, reviewing feedback from community members about 
candidates, interviewing candidates, and nominating a slate of candidates.

RFC 8713 details the NomCom process.  With the recent publication of RFC 9389, 
this is the first year of new qualification criteria, after a few years of 
trials.  People qualify for NomCom participation in one of three ways: 
attendance at IETF meetings (online or virtual), service as a working group 
chair or secretary, or publication of IETF RFCs.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/profile/ lists your eligibility, but you 
can still volunteer even if that says "No".  You can also volunteer by sending 
me an email.

Within the next week or two, I will add more details on the timeline and the 
selection process.

Thank you!
Martin Thomson
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Re: [Int-area] WGLC for draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-04

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear Intarea WG,

The WG last call has ended.
Based on all responses on the ML, we had no objection and enough support and 
feedback to move the document forward.
A link to the latest version: 
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-05.txt


Thanks,
Juan Carlos & Wassim


On 5/4/23, 11:17 PM, "Wassim Haddad"  wrote:


Dear Intarea WG,



This email starts an Intarea WG Last Call on draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-04 
(“IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for IEEE 802 
Parameters”).



A link to the draft: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis/



Please respond to this email to support the documents and/or send comments by 
05/20/2023.





Thanks,

Juan Carlos & Wassim

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[Int-area] WGLC for draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-04

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear Intarea WG,



This email starts an Intarea WG Last Call on draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-04 
(“IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for IEEE 802 
Parameters”).



A link to the draft: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis/



Please respond to this email to support the documents and/or send comments by 
05/20/2023.





Thanks,

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[Int-area] Intarea WG agenda

[Wassim Haddad]

Hi,

The Intarea WG meeting agenda is available at: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/116/materials/agenda-116-intarea-01

Presenters, please upload your slides or send a copy to the chairs.


Thanks,
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF116

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Tuesday, March 28th, 
please send agenda requests to the WG chairs using
intarea-cha...@ietf.org

Please indicate draft name, short abstract and time requested.


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Re: [Int-area] Procedure for obtaining Ethertypes

[Wassim Haddad]

+1
(co-chair hat off)


Thanks,
Wassim H.


On 11/10/22, 12:45 PM, "Int-area"  wrote:

Don,

Adding a procedure describing how to obtain an Ethertype for IETF work seems 
reasonable to me as well.

Bob


> On Nov 10, 2022, at 12:24 PM, Donald Eastlake  wrote:
>
> During the INTAREA WG meeting yesterday, there was a desire expressed
> to include in the rfc7042bis draft an explicit process, from the IETF
> side, for applying to the IEEE Registration Authority for an Ethertype
> assignment. This seems pretty reasonable. The rfc7042bis draft does
> include the IESG Statement requiring IESG approval before such
> applications but does not make it clear just who talks to who inside
> the IETF and who actually does the clerical work to apply to the IEEE
> Registration Authority for an Ethertype assignment after IESG
> approval.
>
> Thinking about this, it seems to me that you want one point person who
> normally does the application process. This should be a position that
> has low turnover so that the person in that position is likely to have
> some experience doing this. The two possibilities that occur to me are
> (1) the IETF 802.1 Liaison (currently Eric Gray) or (2) the Expert for
> the IANA Informational Ethertype Registry (currently me). (I have been
> through the Ethertype assignment process for an IETF protocol several
> times.)
>
> The IESG Statement (see
> https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/ethertypes/)
> requires IESG approval and, as I recall, the last time this happened,
> after the IESG had approved, the IESG was unclear on what to do next
> but their first inclination was to tell IANA to do the application to
> the IEEE Registration Authority. This seems natural as IANA is who you
> would think of when it comes to assignments. And IANA maintains
> contact with their registry experts. While this probably doesn't
> matter at a practical level, considering the liaison alternative, the
> IETF does not seems to currently have a liaison to IEEE 802.1 while
> the IEEE Registration Authority is not at the IEEE 802.1 or the IEEE
> 802 level but rather at the IEEE level .
>
> Any comments welcome but, based on the above, I'm inclined to draft
> some text based on the point person doing the clerical work of
> actually applying to the IEEE Registration Authority being the IANA
> Ethertype Informational Registry expert (actual Registry name "IEEE
> 802 Numbers"). Of course, whoever it is, they could have someone else
> do it on their behalf in any particular instance but they would be
> responsible to see that it gets done.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> ===
> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
> 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF115

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Wednesday, November 
09th, please send agenda requests to the WG chairs using
intarea-cha...@ietf.org

Please indicate draft name, short abstract and time requested.


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Re: [Int-area] Call for Adoption - "Internet Protocol Number for SCHC" draft

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

This note concludes the adoption call.

Since there's clear WG support, we would like to request the authors to submit 
a new draft:
draft-ietf-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number-00


Regards,

Wassim & Juan Carlos
(IntArea WG chairs)




From: Wassim Haddad 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 19:15
To: Internet Area 
Cc: Wassim Haddad ; intarea-cha...@ietf.org 

Subject: Call for Adoption - "Internet Protocol Number for SCHC" draft

Dear IntArea WG,

We are starting a 2-week call for adoption of “Internet Protocol Number for 
SCHC” draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number/01/

If you have an opinion on whether this document should be adopted by the 
IntArea WG please indicate it on the WG mailing list by end of Wednesday, 
September 28th.


Thanks,

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[Int-area] Call for Adoption - "Internet Protocol Number for SCHC" draft

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear IntArea WG,

We are starting a 2-week call for adoption of “Internet Protocol Number for 
SCHC” draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-intarea-schc-ip-protocol-number/01/

If you have an opinion on whether this document should be adopted by the 
IntArea WG please indicate it on the WG mailing list by end of Wednesday, 
September 28th.


Thanks,

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[Int-area] Call for WG adoption of draft-templin-intarea-parcels

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

The call for adoption for 
draft-templin-intarea-parcels
 has now concluded.

Based on the discussion on the ML, Intarea WG chairs concluded there is no 
support to adopt the draft.
Thank you all for the feedback.


Regards,
Juan Carlos & Wassim
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[Int-area] IntArea WG Agenda

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Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Thursday, 07/28, please 
send agenda requests to the chairs using 
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[Int-area] IntArea WG Agenda

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (scheduled for 60 minutes on Tuesday, 
03/22), please send agenda requests to the chairs using 
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF112

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Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (scheduled on Tuesday, 11/09), please 
send agenda requests to the chairs.
Please indicate short abstract, draft name and time requested.


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[Int-area] FW: NomCom 2021-2022 Call for Nominations

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

The call for nominations for leadership positions is now open. Your input to 
the NomCom is much appreciated.


Thanks,
Wassim H.



-Original Message-
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Subject: NomCom 2021-2022 Call for Nominations

Finally! The moment we've all been waiting for:

   C A L L   F O R   N O M I N A T I O N S  ! ! !

The 2021-22 IETF Nominating Committee (NomCom) is seeking nominations from 
now until Monday, October 11, 2021. 

The open positions and more information are found at the NomCom web site:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2021/ 

They are also included below for convenience.

Nominations may be made by selecting the Nominate link at the top of the 
NomCom 2021 home page, or by visiting the following URL: 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2021/nominate/

Self-nomination is welcome! 

Note:  Nominations made using the web tool require an ietf.org datatracker 
account. You can create a datatracker ietf.org account if you don't have one 
already by visiting the following URL: 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/

If you are unable to use the web form, nominations may instead be made by 
email to nomcom-2021 at ietf dot org. If using email, please include the word 
"Nominate" 
in the Subject and indicate in the email who is being nominated, their 
email address (to confirm acceptance of the nomination), and the position for 
which you are making the nomination. If you are nominating someone other than 
yourself, please tell us if we may tell the nominee that you were the one who 
made the nomination. If you wish to nominate someone via email for more than 
one position, please use separate emails to do so.

Willing nominees will be asked to fill out a questionnaire specific to the 
position for which they are nominated. The finalized questionnaires will be 
available no later than Monday, September 6, 2021 (preliminary versions are 
already posted) and have a submission deadline of Monday, October 18, 2021. 

NomCom 2021-22 will follow the policy for "Open Disclosure of Willing 
Nominees" described in BCP 10/RFC 8713: "The list of nominees willing to be 
considered for positions under review in the current NomCom cycle is not 
confidential". Willing nominees for each position will be listed in a publicly 
accessible way, e.g., anyone with a datatracker account may access the lists. 
Additionally, the nomination form asks if we may share your own name with the 
nominee. In all other ways, the confidentiality requirements of BCP
10 remain in effect. All feedback and all NomCom deliberations will remain 
confidential and will not be disclosed.

There is a field on the form you can mark in order to allow the NomCom to 
tell the nominee that you were the one who made the nomination. This defaults 
to “no” - so if you don't mark the field we won’t tell.

In order to ensure time to collect sufficient community feedback about each 
of the willing nominees, nominations must be received by the NomCom on or 
before Monday, October 11, 2021.

Please submit your nominations as early as possible for the sake of your 
nominees. Note that nominations should not wait for nominee management 
permission, as it is easier to decline the nomination than put one in late.

The NomCom appoints individuals to fill open slots on the IAB, IESG, the 
IETF Trust and the LLC Board:

ART AD: 1 position
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RTG AD: 1 position
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IETF Trust: 1 position
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The list of people and posts whose terms end with the March 2022 IETF 
meeting, and thus the positions for which this NomCom is responsible, is:

[An asterisk (*) next to a person's name indicates they do not intend to 
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Please be resourceful in identifying possible candidates for these 
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and also, please consider accepting a nomination. You'll find extensive 
information about specific positions, in individual tabs at: 

Re: [Int-area] draft-eckert-intarea-functional-addr-internets-00.txt

[Wassim Haddad]

On 7/13/21, 3:25 PM, "Int-area on behalf of Brian E Carpenter" 
 wrote:

On 13-Jul-21 17:57, Stewart Bryant wrote:
> An interesting draft Toerless.
> 
> From a background POV it is worth noting ISO 8473 which is in deployment 
with multi-type variable length address.

Pretty ugly and limited though, and as I understand it the major 
(unclassified) deployment, in the airline trade, is trying to migrate away. I 
have no idea if there are classified deployments, but if so, I expect they use 
the non-variable GOSIP format.

I think ISO 8473 is a pretty good model of how not to do it.

> It is also worth noting that SA is different from DA to the extent that 
it may not belong in the network layer header of the outgoing packet. The 
SA is arguably a function of the payload and the application. Indeed some 
MPLS OAM solutions do just that by making the return address implicit in 
the arrival LSP, or a parameter in a payload TLV. SA as in IP is arguably 
just a convenience for a simplified method of operating an application.

My favourite article on that topic is 
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/FUCAM-CL-TR-849.pdf

=> You mean this one: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/UCAM-CL-TR-849.pdf


Wassim H.




> 
> Stewart
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 13 Jul 2021, at 00:05, Toerless Eckert  wrote:
>> Dear Int-area
>>
>> As attached below, i have written up an idea about why and how 
variable-length
>> addresses in the network layer would be useful for many limited domain 
internetworks,
>> but also how they could provide a simple and easily extensible framework 
to
>> add additional semantics (the likes of multicast, BIER, ICN), and also 
make it easier 
>> to express the programmability that SRv6 introduced.
>>
>> Would very much welcome discussion/feedback, and will be asking for a 
slot
>> to present/discuss this int-area 111.
>>
>> Note that the -00 writeup is mostly inspirational for what i think the 
cool
>> things one could do with it are and to explain the concepts.
>>
>> Obviously, if/when there is interest in this
>> direction, the harder work of figuring out how to best introduce this
>> incrementally, and ideally backward compatible into existing networks 
wold
>> be the next big set of items to work out.
>>
>> Cheers
>>Toerless
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 01:00:25PM -0700, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote:
>>> A new version of I-D, 
draft-eckert-intarea-functional-addr-internets-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Toerless Eckert and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>>
>>> Name:draft-eckert-intarea-functional-addr-internets
>>> Revision:00
>>> Title:Functional Addressing (FA) for internets with Independent 
Network Address Spaces (IINAS)
>>> Document date:2021-07-12
>>> Group:Individual Submission
>>> Pages:30
>>> URL:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-eckert-intarea-functional-addr-internets-00.txt
>>> Status: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eckert-intarea-functional-addr-internets/
>>> Htmlized:   
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckert-intarea-functional-addr-internets
>>>
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>   Recent work has raised interest in exploring network layer addressing
>>>   that is more flexible than fixed-length addressing as used in IPv4
>>>   (32 bit) and IPv6 (128 bit).
>>>
>>>   The reasons for the interest include both support for multiple and
>>>   potentially novel address semantics, but also optimizations of
>>>   addressing for existing semantics such as unicast tailored not for
>>>   the global Internet but to better support private networks / limited
>>>   domains.
>>>
>>>   This memo explores in the view of the author yet little explored
>>>   reasons for more flexible addresses namely the problems and
>>>   opportunities for Internetworking with Independent Network Address
>>>   Spaces (IINAS).
>>>
>>>   To better enable such internetworks, this memo proposes a framework
>>>   for a Functional Addressing model.  This model also intends to
>>>   support several other addressing goals including programmability and
>>>   multiple semantics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>
>> -- 
>> ---
>> t...@cs.fau.de
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF111

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (scheduled on Friday, 07/30), please 
send agenda requests to the chairs.
Please indicate short abstract, draft name and time requested


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Re: [Int-area] Dear intarea chairs: int-area time planning

[Wassim Haddad]

Makes sense!


Thanks,
Wassim H.



From: Ted Lemon 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 15:19
To: Juan Carlos Zuniga
Cc: Toerless Eckert; intarea-cha...@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Int-area] Dear intarea chairs: int-area time planning

On Mar 12, 2021, at 6:13 PM, Juan Carlos Zuniga 
mailto:juancarlos.zun...@sigfox.com>> wrote:
We have had multiple issues trying to accommodate late requests (arriving after 
we have already requested the time slot to the IETF meeting planners). However, 
we will try to avoid this trend and will request a longer slot for the next 
time.

I kind of like Fred Baker’s policy on this: if you haven’t brought it up on the 
mailing list and gotten some discussion, it’s not going on the agenda. There’s 
always the next IETF.
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF 110

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Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Wednesday, March 10th, 
please send agenda requests to the chairs.

Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


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[Int-area] Note Takers

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear Intarea,

In preparation for the our meeting today/tonight, the WGchairs are “actively” 
looking for two volunteers:

  *   Jabber Scribe (1)
  *   Minute Taker (1)

Thanks much!

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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF 109

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (Scheduled on Thursday, November 
19th), please send agenda requests to the chairs.
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


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[Int-area] Visit NomCom during office hours

[Wassim Haddad]

Hello,

If anyone is interested in finding out more about NomCom or about standing for 
an I* position (or just wants to say Hi), please visit with NomCom during 
office hours next week.


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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF108

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,


In preparation for the Intarea WG virtual session, please send agenda requests 
to the chairs. 
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


Thanks,

JC & Wassim

 



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Re: [Int-area] Int Area Interim Meeting?

[Wassim Haddad]

Hi Bob,

The WG chairs sent the following email on 03/09:

Dear all,
 
This is to let you know that due to the different travel restrictions we will 
be cancelling the IntArea WG session for IETF 107.
We are sorry about the inconvenience.
If you are interested in presenting at a future virtual or physical (IETF 108) 
meeting, please contact Wassim and myself.


Regards,

Wassim H.


On 3/27/20, 08:41, "Int-area on behalf of Bob Hinden" 
 wrote:

Is there going to be an Int Area interim meeting scheduled?  Or did I miss 
it?

Bob





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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF107

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (Thursday, March 26th), please send 
agenda requests to the chairs. 
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


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Re: [Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF106

[Wassim Haddad]

Correction: Intarea WG meeting will take place on Thursday, 21 November 2019

 

 

Thanks,

Wassim H.

 

 

From: Wassim Haddad 
Date: Monday, October 21, 2019 at 10:14
To: "int-area@ietf.org" 
Cc: intarea-chairs , Wassim Haddad 

Subject: Call for Agenda Items @IETF106

 

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Tuesday, November 19th, 
please send agenda requests to the chairs. 
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.




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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF106

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Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Tuesday, November 19th, 
please send agenda requests to the chairs. 
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[Int-area] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-intarea-provisioning-domains-08

[Wassim Haddad via Datatracker]

Wassim Haddad has requested publication of 
draft-ietf-intarea-provisioning-domains-08 as Proposed Standard on behalf of 
the INTAREA working group.

Please verify the document's state at 
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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF105

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (Tuesday, July 23rd), please send 
agenda requests to the chairs. 
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


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[Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-provisioning-domains-05

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

This email starts an Int-Area WG Last Call on the latest version of 
draft-ietf-intarea-provisioning-domains (“Discovering Provisioning Domain Names 
and Data"):

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-intarea-provisioning-domains-05.txt

Please respond to this email to support the document and/or send comments by 
2019-07-05.

Please indicate if you are personally aware of any IPR that applies to 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-intarea-provisioning-domains-xx and
if so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules?


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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF104

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting, please send agenda requests to the 
chairs. 
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


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[Int-area] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-08

[Wassim Haddad]

Wassim Haddad has requested publication of draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-08 
as Best Current Practice on behalf of the INTAREA working group.

Please verify the document's state at 
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[Int-area] [Intarea] Sending draft-ietf-frag-fragile-08 to IESG

[Wassim Haddad]

Hello,

The WGLC for draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-08 has ended. Many thanks for the 
discussion and feedback.

The chairs will submit the current version “draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-08” 
to the IESG for publication as BCP.


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[Int-area] WGLC on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

This email starts an Int-Area WG Last Call on the latest version of "IP 
Fragmentation Considered Fragile” draft:
 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-05
 
Please respond to this email to support the document and/or send comments by 
2019-01-28.
 
Please indicate if you are personally aware of any IPR that applies to 
draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile-xx? 
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules?


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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @IETF103

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (scheduled on Wednesday, 11/07), 
please send agenda requests to the chairs. 
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


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Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile

[Wassim Haddad]

Hi,

The WG adoption call ended last Friday. From the discussion on the ML, we see 
support for adopting draft-bonica-intarea-frag-fragile-03 as a working group 
document.

Authors, please (re)-submit the draft as a WG document.


Thanks,
Juan & Wassim



> On Jul 24, 2018, at 12:42, Wassim Haddad  wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> We would like to start a WG adoption call for 
> draft-bonica-intarea-frag-fragile (“IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile”).
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bonica-intarea-frag-fragile-03.txt
> 
> 
> Please indicate your preferences on the mailling list. The deadline is August 
> 10th.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Juan & Wassim

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[Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

We would like to start a WG adoption call for draft-bonica-intarea-frag-fragile 
(“IP Fragmentation Considered Fragile”).

https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bonica-intarea-frag-fragile-03.txt


Please indicate your preferences on the mailling list. The deadline is August 
10th.


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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @ IETF102

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting (Monday 07/16), please send agenda 
requests to the chairs. 
Please indicate short abstract, draft name, and time requested.


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Re: [Int-area] WG Adoption Call: Discovering Provisioning Domain Names and Data

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

Thank you for the feedback, reviews and ongoing discussion. The call for 
adoption returned a number of positive feedback and the WG chairs believe there 
is consensus to work on the proposal. 

Authors, please re-submit as an Intarea WG draft.


Regards,

Wassim & Juan Carlos



> On Sep 1, 2017, at 13:14, Wassim Haddad <wassim.had...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Based on the discussion we had at the last intarea WG meeting, we would like 
> to start a WG adoption call for draft-bruneau-intarea-provisioning-domains-02 
> on "Discovering Provisioning Domain Names and Data”:
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bruneau-intarea-provisioning-domains-02.txt
> 
> Please indicate your preferences on the mailling list. The deadline is 
> September 18th.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wassim & Juan Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Int-area] IP-not-v10

[Wassim Haddad]

Regards,

Wassim H.




> On Sep 28, 2017, at 12:09, Ron Bonica  wrote:
> 
> Maybe the mailing list should be named after the problem that it purports to 
> solve

=> Which is??


Wassim H.

> , as opposed the solution that Khaled hopes it will generate.
> 
> After all, we have no idea whether the mailing list will generate a new 
> version of IP at all.
> 
> Furthermore, giving the mailing list a name that suggests that there will be 
> yet another version of IP may confuse the industry.
> 
>   
>   Ron
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[Int-area] WG Adoption Call: Discovering Provisioning Domain Names and Data

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

Based on the discussion we had at the last intarea WG meeting, we would like to 
start a WG adoption call for draft-bruneau-intarea-provisioning-domains-02 on 
"Discovering Provisioning Domain Names and Data”:

https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bruneau-intarea-provisioning-domains-02.txt

Please indicate your preferences on the mailling list. The deadline is 
September 18th.


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[Int-area] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-intarea-probe-04

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear Intarea,

The chairs are starting a working group last call on: 
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-intarea-probe-04.txt

This work has gone through multiple revisions to address comments and feedback. 
The authors believe it is now ready for WGLC.

Taking into account the summer vacation, the WGLC will be extended to three 
weeks instead of two and will close on Friday, August 25th.

Please send your comments to the mailing list.


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[Int-area] [Intarea] Meeting Minutes

[Wassim Haddad]

Hi,

The intarea meeting minutes are available at:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-99-intarea/

Many thanks to Erik Kline for taking notes!


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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @ IETF99

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Thursday morning 
(07/20), please send agenda requests to the chairs. Please indicate short 
abstract, draft name, and time requested.


Thanks,

Juan Carlos, Suresh and Wassim

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[Int-area] WG Adoption Call: Extended Ping (Xping)

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

We would like to start a WG adoption call for draft-bonica-intarea-eping-04 
(“Extended Ping (Xping)”):

https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-bonica-intarea-eping-04.txt 


Please indicate your preferences on the mailling list. The deadline is April 
28th.


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[Int-area] RFC 8117 in the news!

[Wassim Haddad]

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/14/naming_computers_endangers_privacy/


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Wassim H.




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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @ IETF 98

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,
 
In preparation for the Intarea WG meeting scheduled on Tuesday afternoon 
(03/28), please send agenda requests to the chairs. Please indicate short 
abstract, draft name, and time requested.

 
Thanks,
 
Juan Carlos, Suresh and Wassim



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[Int-area] WG Adoption Call: IP over Intentionally Partitioned Links

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

We would like to start a WG adoption call for draft-nordmark-intarea-ippl-05 
("IP over Intentionally Partitioned Links”).
Please indicate your preferences on the mailling list. The deadline is Februray 
3rd.


Regards,

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[Int-area] Intarea Meeting: jabber scribe

[Wassim Haddad]

We're looking for a volunteer to serve as the jabber scribe for our one-hour 
session today. Please let me know if you’re interested


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[Int-area] Call for Agenda Items @ IETF 96

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

The Intarea WG will meet in Seoul on Wednesday (11/16) afternoon for an hour. 
In preparation for the meeting, please send requests for agenda time.


Regards,

Juan Carlos, Suresh and Wassim
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Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

On May 19th, Intarea WG chairs issued a call for adopting 
draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03 as a WG item. The call triggered a discussion 
which went well beyond the deadline. However, at this stage, WG chairs don’t 
see enough support for adopting the draft. 


Regards,

JC & Wassim




> On May 19, 2016, at 10:03, Wassim Haddad <wassim.had...@ericsson.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> The authors of draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03 (“Encapsulating IP in UDP”) have 
> requested that the working group adopt this work as a WG work item.
> So far, WG chairs have not seen widespread support and considering that lack 
> of opposition does not qualify as support, we’re starting a working group 
> adoption call until June 3rd. 
> 
> If you consider that the draft should be adopted as a WG work item, please 
> indicate the reason.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Wassim & Juan Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03

[Wassim Haddad]

Dear all,

The authors of draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03 (“Encapsulating IP in UDP”) have 
requested that the working group adopt this work as a WG work item.
So far, WG chairs have not seen widespread support and considering that lack of 
opposition does not qualify as support, we’re starting a working group adoption 
call until June 3rd. 

If you consider that the draft should be adopted as a WG work item, please 
indicate the reason.


Regards,

Wassim & Juan Carlos





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Re: [Int-area] [MEXT] Rethink on Mobile IPv6

[Wassim Haddad]

Hi Charles,
 

To be brief:
- I think we need to allow network operators to
   utilize security mechanisms they deem appropriate,
   whether or not standardized by the IETF.

- I think we need to allow network operators to
   utilize tunneling mechanisms they deem appropriate,
   whether or not standardized by the IETF.

I'm happy to break down the specification into components (such as route
optimization, etc.).
I'll even volunteer to hack the text.  But I do not think this is a major
stumbling block.
After all, the mobile node is the one initiating route optimization.  If the
home agent does not support it, there is no route optimization -- in other
words, this function is trivially controllable by operators.

= IMHO, it also makes (much) sense to simplify the RO mode and not just
split it.


Regards,

Wassim H.


On 3/3/2010 7:55 AM, basavaraj.pa...@nokia.com wrote:

 Mobile IPv6 (RFC3775) has been an RFC since 2004, and Dual-stack 
 Mobile IPv6 (RFC) since 2009. Implementations of the protocol has 
 been lacklustre to say the least. Several SDOs have considered MIP6 
 and DSMIP6 as a solution for interworking and mobility between 
 different access technologies and only 3GPP has adopted it in a very 
 limited manner for Rel 8 (for use on the S2c interface) with the 
 likelihood of it being actually deployed quite low (IMO).

 While there are many reasons that can be attributed to the lack of 
 implementations and use, one that I would like to raise is the the 
 concern with the overly complex security model that MIP6/DSMIP6 relies 
 on today. MIP6/DSMIP6 requires IPsec and IKE/IKEv2 (RFC3776/4877) to 
 secure the signaling between the MN and HA. The fundamental purpose of
 MIP6/DSMIP6 is to provide mobility to hosts. At a very high level the
 MIP6/DSMIP6 protocol boils down to the ability to setup a tunnel 
 between the MN and HA and update the MN tunnel end-point whenever 
 there is a change in the associated IP address (CoA). The signaling to 
 establish the tunnel needs to be secure. But using a protocol like
 IKEv2 and IPsec to achieve this security is just an overkill. It 
 increases the complexity of the implementation as a result of many 
 factors that have been captured in I-D:
 draft-patil-mext-mip6issueswithipsec and discussed in the MEXT WG 
 meetings.

 Given the objective of the protocol is to enable IP mobility for 
 hosts, it should focus on doing that well in a manner that makes it 
 easy to implement/adopt/deploy/scale. My opinion as a result of 
 implementation experience is that MIP6/DSMIP6 can be significantly 
 simplified, especially the security architecture. The protocol as 
 specified currently in RFC3775/RFC is a kitchensink of features. 
 Getting back to basics of simply establishing a tunnel between the MN 
 and HA and managing that tunnel is all that is needed and would 
 potentially see the light of day in the real world.

 You may want to call it as Mobile IPv6-lite if you wish. But I do 
 believe that a simplification of the protocol is needed without which 
 I fear it will remain an academic exercise with many years spent in 
 developing a spec. I hope the working group and people who are 
 involved in mobility related work would consider undertaking such an 
 effort in the IETF.

 -Basavaraj

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