Re: [Interest] Qt Creator is so buggy and so slow...

2021-03-18 Thread Jason H
...
>
> On Thursday, 18 March 2021 10:38:41 PDT Alexander Dyagilev wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Often it just stops to suggest code, syntax highlighted stops w.
>
> I cannot reproduce your problem of open/close/open.

Same problem here. The problem is real. I'm on a 2019 macbook pro.
The key is to just close the file and reopen it, it doesn't take restarting the 
entire IDE. It happens on small files, < 1000 lines of code, not that 
complicated. It's my most frequent problem.

The other anything problem is when the QtCreator pane insists on showsing 
issues for an old version if the file, even though it's been fixed and compiled 
successfully. This one is more rare though.
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Re: [Interest] Qt Creator is so buggy and so slow...

2021-03-18 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Thursday, 18 March 2021 10:38:41 PDT Alexander Dyagilev wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Often it just stops to suggest code, syntax highlighted stops working
> (at least for a part of the code) for no apparent reason.

My experience is that the syntax highlighter and the code completion can be 
running in different contexts, thus seeing different macros. See 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTCREATORBUG-25464
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTCREATORBUG-25113
for two examples.

> It takes apporx. 10 seconds to parse c++ file for c++ tools to start
> working. If you open/close/open same c++ it can stop parsing it until
> app restart.

The time it takes to parse is dependent on how complex the file is. I have one 
very complex that is painful to use (probably due to use of Boost headers). 
The vast majority of files I work with are editable in reasonable time and I 
don't see any slow downs. This is on a 5-year-old laptop.

I cannot reproduce your problem of open/close/open.

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[Interest] Qt Creator is so buggy and so slow...

2021-03-18 Thread Alexander Dyagilev

Hello,

Often it just stops to suggest code, syntax highlighted stops working 
(at least for a part of the code) for no apparent reason.


It takes apporx. 10 seconds to parse c++ file for c++ tools to start 
working. If you open/close/open same c++ it can stop parsing it until 
app restart.


App restart often helps to fix these bugs, but they do return in a small 
amount of time...


Any suggestions?

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Re: [Interest] Mixing Commercial and Open Source license for, different, projects

2021-03-18 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Interest

Il 18/03/21 12:41, Christian Gagneraud ha scritto:

My main grief is that Qt doesn't seem to care about C++.
What was their last contribution to the standard?


Apart from hiring the ex-chair of the WG21 Evolution Working Group?

(Can we stop with the FUD please?)

My 2 c,
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Re: [Interest] Mixing Commercial and Open Source license for, different, projects

2021-03-18 Thread Roland Hughes


On 3/18/21 6:55 AM, Christian Gagneraud wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 00:41, Christian Gagneraud  wrote:

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 03:32, Roland Hughes  wrote:

On 3/17/21 6:00 AM, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote:

Out of curiosity: what alternatives are people settling on?

Forgot to mention. Comcast dumped Qt in favor of Webkit some time late
last year. You probably were on the SPAM and phone call list. We all
know just how technical the people pimps put on the phone are, but here
is what they told me.

FUD + death-of-perpetual-license = abandon-Qt

FUD from Qt + FUD from Roland = people getting tired

I'm tired, and looking every single day how to get rid of Qt.
I'm not happy about the situation, but it forces me to rethink.

My main grief is that Qt doesn't seem to care about C++.
What was their last contribution to the standard?

One day, C++ will have introspection, and  it will come from boost, not Qt...
So sad!

Tip to whoever:
Qt = Atlassian.
Expensive stuff for big companies that think you can buy success.


The flaw in that analogy is the big companies are banning Qt's use. The 
only medical device projects I'm hearing about still using Qt are things 
that started over a year ago or things being created by very tiny firms. 
The deep pockets went elsewhere. Konrad and I are just trying to 
identify where. Qt licensing changes locked Qt out of many lucrative 
markets.


I concur with your comment on C++. It does feel Qt has abandoned C++. 
The recent willy-nilly deletion of convenience functions causing 
thousands of hours of expensive pain for existing products/projects only 
adds credence to that feeling.


There seems to be a deep religious divide between C++ and Qt and it is 
over the CoW (Copy on Write) Qt relies on. (Which also means you can't 
really have exceptions.) On low powered embedded systems with horrible 
dynamic memory allocation CoW can really save your bacon. I didn't think 
it made much difference on grid powered desktops, until I stumbled into 
a situation where it did.


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Almost 16 minutes to build a QList that Qt built in about half a second.

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Re: [Interest] Mixing Commercial and Open Source license for, different, projects

2021-03-18 Thread Christian Gagneraud
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 00:41, Christian Gagneraud  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 03:32, Roland Hughes  
> wrote:
> > > On 3/17/21 6:00 AM, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote:
> > >> Out of curiosity: what alternatives are people settling on?
> > >
> > Forgot to mention. Comcast dumped Qt in favor of Webkit some time late
> > last year. You probably were on the SPAM and phone call list. We all
> > know just how technical the people pimps put on the phone are, but here
> > is what they told me.
> >
> > FUD + death-of-perpetual-license = abandon-Qt
>
> FUD from Qt + FUD from Roland = people getting tired
>
> I'm tired, and looking every single day how to get rid of Qt.
> I'm not happy about the situation, but it forces me to rethink.
>
> My main grief is that Qt doesn't seem to care about C++.
> What was their last contribution to the standard?
>
> One day, C++ will have introspection, and  it will come from boost, not Qt...
> So sad!

Tip to whoever:
Qt = Atlassian.
Expensive stuff for big companies that think you can buy success.

Chris
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Re: [Interest] Mixing Commercial and Open Source license for, different, projects

2021-03-18 Thread Christian Gagneraud
On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 at 03:32, Roland Hughes  wrote:
> > On 3/17/21 6:00 AM, Konrad Rosenbaum wrote:
> >> Out of curiosity: what alternatives are people settling on?
> >
> Forgot to mention. Comcast dumped Qt in favor of Webkit some time late
> last year. You probably were on the SPAM and phone call list. We all
> know just how technical the people pimps put on the phone are, but here
> is what they told me.
>
> FUD + death-of-perpetual-license = abandon-Qt

FUD from Qt + FUD from Roland = people getting tired

I'm tired, and looking every single day how to get rid of Qt.
I'm not happy about the situation, but it forces me to rethink.

My main grief is that Qt doesn't seem to care about C++.
What was their last contribution to the standard?

One day, C++ will have introspection, and  it will come from boost, not Qt...
So sad!

Chris
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