Re: [Interest] [Development] Qt 6 Planning: Consideration of dropping support for UWP applications
On 21/04/2019 10:43, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: > On Donnerstag, 18. April 2019 14:46:59 CEST Oliver Wolff wrote: >> Hi, >> >> as you might have heard, we are currently in Qt 6's planning phase and >> thus checking things that have to be done to make Qt even better. >> Of course we also want to use this opportuniy to drop support for >> platforms that are no longer relevant in Qt's new environment. >> >> One of these platforms is Microsoft's Universal Windows Platform which >> is used on desktop PCs (for "Tiled" UWP applications, no classic desktop >> applications), Windows Phone, Xbox one, Microsoft Hololens, and >> Microsoft IoT devices. With Windows Phone no longer being relevant and >> Microsoft's IoT strategy being unclear we now consider dropping support >> for these platforms. Additional benefits and reasons can be found in >> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-74755 >> >> To be able to make the right decision, we now want your input as well. >> If you can give some input on why support should be kept or have >> additional reasons for dropping support, please reply to this mail or >> add your input to https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-74755 where we >> want to gather all the needed information before making a decision. >> >> As said before, nothing is set in stone. At the moment we are gathering >> information so that we can make a well informed decision. > > How does UWP support relate to using UWP APIs? > > It seems a lot of new Windows API is UWP specific. For instance for HDR > support I need to read the luminance level for SDR content in HDR mode, and I > could only find UWP API for that. UWP APIs are available for "classic" Windows applications as long as the applications run on Windows >= 10. So they can be used in Qt's desktop port (they might need a compile and run time check though) This of course also means, that backends that are available on desktop Qt (like Sensors, Bluetooth, and Location for example) will keep working on Windows desktop (>= 10). These backends would not be part of UWP's deprecation and would be kept alive and supported. Olli > > 'Allan > > ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] [Development] Qt 6 Planning: Consideration of dropping support for UWP applications
Il giorno gio 18 apr 2019 alle ore 15:36 Boudewijn Rempt via Interest < interest@qt-project.org> ha scritto: > On donderdag 18 april 2019 15:29:33 CEST Pier Luigi Fiorini wrote: > > > Does this affect shipping Qt apps in the store? > > > I'm not a Windows expert but as far as I remember only UWP apps are > > > supposed to go there, but I can be wrong. > > > > > > > No -- you can also ship ordinary desktop Qt applications that have been > converted with the DAC. > If Qt will drop UWP support, then let's hope DAC will never be deprecated someday. -- https://liri.io ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] [Development] Qt 6 Planning: Consideration of dropping support for UWP applications
What about the bluetooth (Classic && LE) support then? 21.04.2019 13:32, Boudewijn Rempt via Interest пишет: On zondag 21 april 2019 10:43:37 CEST Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: It seems a lot of new Windows API is UWP specific. For instance for HDR support I need to read the luminance level for SDR content in HDR mode, and I could only find UWP API for that. We had to patch Qt a lot to make HDR work properly, including getting the SDR luminance level. Those patches in in gerrit, as well as in Krita's repo. ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] [Development] Qt 6 Planning: Consideration of dropping support for UWP applications
On zondag 21 april 2019 10:43:37 CEST Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: > It seems a lot of new Windows API is UWP specific. For instance for HDR > support I need to read the luminance level for SDR content in HDR mode, and I > could only find UWP API for that. We had to patch Qt a lot to make HDR work properly, including getting the SDR luminance level. Those patches in in gerrit, as well as in Krita's repo. -- https://www.valdyas.org | https://www.krita.org ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] [Development] Qt 6 Planning: Consideration of dropping support for UWP applications
On Donnerstag, 18. April 2019 14:46:59 CEST Oliver Wolff wrote: > Hi, > > as you might have heard, we are currently in Qt 6's planning phase and > thus checking things that have to be done to make Qt even better. > Of course we also want to use this opportuniy to drop support for > platforms that are no longer relevant in Qt's new environment. > > One of these platforms is Microsoft's Universal Windows Platform which > is used on desktop PCs (for "Tiled" UWP applications, no classic desktop > applications), Windows Phone, Xbox one, Microsoft Hololens, and > Microsoft IoT devices. With Windows Phone no longer being relevant and > Microsoft's IoT strategy being unclear we now consider dropping support > for these platforms. Additional benefits and reasons can be found in > https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-74755 > > To be able to make the right decision, we now want your input as well. > If you can give some input on why support should be kept or have > additional reasons for dropping support, please reply to this mail or > add your input to https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-74755 where we > want to gather all the needed information before making a decision. > > As said before, nothing is set in stone. At the moment we are gathering > information so that we can make a well informed decision. How does UWP support relate to using UWP APIs? It seems a lot of new Windows API is UWP specific. For instance for HDR support I need to read the luminance level for SDR content in HDR mode, and I could only find UWP API for that. 'Allan ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] [Development] Qt 6 Planning: Consideration of dropping support for UWP applications
On donderdag 18 april 2019 15:29:33 CEST Pier Luigi Fiorini wrote: > Does this affect shipping Qt apps in the store? > I'm not a Windows expert but as far as I remember only UWP apps are > supposed to go there, but I can be wrong. > No -- you can also ship ordinary desktop Qt applications that have been converted with the DAC. -- https://www.krita.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
Re: [Interest] [Development] Qt 6 Planning: Consideration of dropping support for UWP applications
Does this affect shipping Qt apps in the store? I'm not a Windows expert but as far as I remember only UWP apps are supposed to go there, but I can be wrong. Il giorno gio 18 apr 2019 alle ore 14:50 Oliver Wolff ha scritto: > Hi, > > as you might have heard, we are currently in Qt 6's planning phase and > thus checking things that have to be done to make Qt even better. > Of course we also want to use this opportuniy to drop support for > platforms that are no longer relevant in Qt's new environment. > > One of these platforms is Microsoft's Universal Windows Platform which > is used on desktop PCs (for "Tiled" UWP applications, no classic desktop > applications), Windows Phone, Xbox one, Microsoft Hololens, and > Microsoft IoT devices. With Windows Phone no longer being relevant and > Microsoft's IoT strategy being unclear we now consider dropping support > for these platforms. Additional benefits and reasons can be found in > https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-74755 > > To be able to make the right decision, we now want your input as well. > If you can give some input on why support should be kept or have > additional reasons for dropping support, please reply to this mail or > add your input to https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-74755 where we > want to gather all the needed information before making a decision. > > As said before, nothing is set in stone. At the moment we are gathering > information so that we can make a well informed decision. > Olli > ___ > Development mailing list > developm...@qt-project.org > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development > -- https://liri.io ___ Interest mailing list Interest@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/interest
