Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 3/21/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I splice the ID3 tags onto the front of an MP3 stream in PHP on this site: http://uncommonground.com/ The id3 library in PHP is quite good at this, but needs a maintainer... Well, it is a start, now only processing work needs to be done :) To convert from MP3 to Wave for example, I think this will require the LAME lib, and to use with OGG, it will require the OGGvorbis lib. But about WMA, I never saw a Linux lib for it. So that would require creating a new lib for WMA, or directly implementing it into the PHP source. So the MP3 and OGG support shouldn't bee too hard to implement, but other file formats might be harder. And now I'm only talking about Audio, my first idea was to implement Video (Audio+Video). Video is even more advanced, then we should work with DivX and XviD codecs. (Thank god, they are Open Source). But having this support for video, it would be possible to easily create a site like youtube, where they even have a screenshot of the movie, which is actually just a frame in the middle of the file. And of course it would be possible to resize the video files. Kind Regards, Tijnema On Tue, March 20, 2007 3:21 pm, Tijnema ! wrote: On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tijnema, cool, have a look at the site then. If Ilia didn't update it just wait a bit - we are having network problems here during the conference. best regards marcus Hi, I read a lot of text, just for information and i like the idea of GSoC. There are some interesting things on the PHP Ideas list, and it looks like this idea is the simplest one. As the phpt file structure is quite easy and there's (AFAIK) no knowledge of C/C++ needed. Only a little bit PHP programming, and writing the expected result :) But i have also some ideas, but i have no idea if it is possible or useful in PHP. For example i'd like to see support for handling audio/video files in PHP, to do all kind of music processing in PHP, or create music streams directly from within a website. I haven't seen this on any other web based programming language yet. Kind Regards, Tijnema ps. Yes i know the oggvorbis PECL package, but this is only for OGG. Thursday, March 15, 2007, 10:09:11 PM, you wrote: On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ilia, of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we have? best regards marcus I'm a student :) I'm not sure what the requirements for this are, but i've programmed a lot in PHP and C/C++. Tijnema Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote: Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of GSoC. On 15-Mar-07, at 10:50 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello guys, PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the following on php.net. Any comments? --- The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer of Code. We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In case you want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, PHP, and get some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of March 2007. The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If you have not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here http://code.google.com/soc. --- Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP version and Zend API Number
Michael B Allen wrote: The get_zend_version function returns a string like 'Zend Engine v1.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2004 Zend Technologies\n'. It would be nice to be able to get the ZEND_MODULE_API_NO (e.g. 20060613) the standard module was compiled under. basic_function_module.zend_api might be what you're looking for. I'm still confused about how many versions of extensions I need to provide with my product. Currently I just compile it against late versions of 4, 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2 and hope for the best. But looking at ZEND_MODULE_API_NO changes in webcvs shows it changes more frequently than that. But so far I haven't ran into major problems with ZEND_MODULE_API_NO so maybe I'm just being paranoid. From looking at zend.c it looks like it will print diagnostic info if some tries to load an incompatible extension. It looks like that: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ php -n -dextension_dir=/usr/local/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20050922/ -dextension=ffi.so -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: ffi: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20050922, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=1 These options need to match -- Michael -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
you should look at ffmpeg and other multi-codec libraries (sdl?) On 3/21/07, Tijnema ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/21/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I splice the ID3 tags onto the front of an MP3 stream in PHP on this site: http://uncommonground.com/ The id3 library in PHP is quite good at this, but needs a maintainer... Well, it is a start, now only processing work needs to be done :) To convert from MP3 to Wave for example, I think this will require the LAME lib, and to use with OGG, it will require the OGGvorbis lib. But about WMA, I never saw a Linux lib for it. So that would require creating a new lib for WMA, or directly implementing it into the PHP source. So the MP3 and OGG support shouldn't bee too hard to implement, but other file formats might be harder. And now I'm only talking about Audio, my first idea was to implement Video (Audio+Video). Video is even more advanced, then we should work with DivX and XviD codecs. (Thank god, they are Open Source). But having this support for video, it would be possible to easily create a site like youtube, where they even have a screenshot of the movie, which is actually just a frame in the middle of the file. And of course it would be possible to resize the video files. Kind Regards, Tijnema On Tue, March 20, 2007 3:21 pm, Tijnema ! wrote: On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tijnema, cool, have a look at the site then. If Ilia didn't update it just wait a bit - we are having network problems here during the conference. best regards marcus Hi, I read a lot of text, just for information and i like the idea of GSoC. There are some interesting things on the PHP Ideas list, and it looks like this idea is the simplest one. As the phpt file structure is quite easy and there's (AFAIK) no knowledge of C/C++ needed. Only a little bit PHP programming, and writing the expected result :) But i have also some ideas, but i have no idea if it is possible or useful in PHP. For example i'd like to see support for handling audio/video files in PHP, to do all kind of music processing in PHP, or create music streams directly from within a website. I haven't seen this on any other web based programming language yet. Kind Regards, Tijnema ps. Yes i know the oggvorbis PECL package, but this is only for OGG. Thursday, March 15, 2007, 10:09:11 PM, you wrote: On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ilia, of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we have? best regards marcus I'm a student :) I'm not sure what the requirements for this are, but i've programmed a lot in PHP and C/C++. Tijnema Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote: Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of GSoC. On 15-Mar-07, at 10:50 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello guys, PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the following on php.net. Any comments? --- The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer of Code. We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In case you want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, PHP, and get some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of March 2007. The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If you have not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here http://code.google.com/soc. --- Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alexey Zakhlestin http://blog.milkfarmsoft.com/
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 3/21/07, Alexey Zakhlestin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you should look at ffmpeg and other multi-codec libraries (sdl?) ffmpeg is cool, and probably good for this, but I'm not sure what you want to do with SDL library. Tijnema On 3/21/07, Tijnema ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/21/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I splice the ID3 tags onto the front of an MP3 stream in PHP on this site: http://uncommonground.com/ The id3 library in PHP is quite good at this, but needs a maintainer... Well, it is a start, now only processing work needs to be done :) To convert from MP3 to Wave for example, I think this will require the LAME lib, and to use with OGG, it will require the OGGvorbis lib. But about WMA, I never saw a Linux lib for it. So that would require creating a new lib for WMA, or directly implementing it into the PHP source. So the MP3 and OGG support shouldn't bee too hard to implement, but other file formats might be harder. And now I'm only talking about Audio, my first idea was to implement Video (Audio+Video). Video is even more advanced, then we should work with DivX and XviD codecs. (Thank god, they are Open Source). But having this support for video, it would be possible to easily create a site like youtube, where they even have a screenshot of the movie, which is actually just a frame in the middle of the file. And of course it would be possible to resize the video files. Kind Regards, Tijnema On Tue, March 20, 2007 3:21 pm, Tijnema ! wrote: On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tijnema, cool, have a look at the site then. If Ilia didn't update it just wait a bit - we are having network problems here during the conference. best regards marcus Hi, I read a lot of text, just for information and i like the idea of GSoC. There are some interesting things on the PHP Ideas list, and it looks like this idea is the simplest one. As the phpt file structure is quite easy and there's (AFAIK) no knowledge of C/C++ needed. Only a little bit PHP programming, and writing the expected result :) But i have also some ideas, but i have no idea if it is possible or useful in PHP. For example i'd like to see support for handling audio/video files in PHP, to do all kind of music processing in PHP, or create music streams directly from within a website. I haven't seen this on any other web based programming language yet. Kind Regards, Tijnema ps. Yes i know the oggvorbis PECL package, but this is only for OGG. Thursday, March 15, 2007, 10:09:11 PM, you wrote: On 3/15/07, Marcus Boerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ilia, of course we can. The question is how do we find a student for ideas we have? best regards marcus I'm a student :) I'm not sure what the requirements for this are, but i've programmed a lot in PHP and C/C++. Tijnema Thursday, March 15, 2007, 4:21:01 PM, you wrote: Ca we have a project designed to improve code coverage of PHP by creating .phpt tests? I may not seem like a complex project, but in terms of improving PHP as a language it would be exceptionally useful. Probably more so then any one extension that can come out of GSoC. On 15-Mar-07, at 10:50 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello guys, PHP has been chosen as a summer of code project. I suggets we put the following on php.net. Any comments? --- The PHP team is proud to once again participate in the Google Summer of Code. We are still looking for project ideas of interested students. In case you want to spend your summer with your favorite open source project, PHP, and get some money for adding an interesting project to it, you should contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The deadline for submitting ideas is the 24th of March 2007. The current list of ideas can be seen here http://php.net/ideas. If you have not heard of the Google Summer of Code, then have a look here http://code.google.com/soc. --- Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Alexey Zakhlestin http://blog.milkfarmsoft.com/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 03/21/2007 10:47 AM, Tijnema ! wrote: On 3/21/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I splice the ID3 tags onto the front of an MP3 stream in PHP on this site: http://uncommonground.com/ The id3 library in PHP is quite good at this, but needs a maintainer... Well, it is a start, now only processing work needs to be done :) To convert from MP3 to Wave for example, I think this will require the LAME lib, and to use with OGG, it will require the OGGvorbis lib. But about WMA, I never saw a Linux lib for it. So that would require creating a new lib for WMA, or directly implementing it into the PHP source. So the MP3 and OGG support shouldn't bee too hard to implement, but other file formats might be harder. And now I'm only talking about Audio, my first idea was to implement Video (Audio+Video). Video is even more advanced, then we should work with DivX and XviD codecs. (Thank god, they are Open Source). But having this support for video, it would be possible to easily create a site like youtube, where they even have a screenshot of the movie, which is actually just a frame in the middle of the file. And of course it would be possible to resize the video files. I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP. PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load. There is a bunch of mature opensource utilities (transcoder, lame, oggenc etc.) and you can always use them to convert WAV to MP3 and AVI to OGG, it's just a matter of implementation. That said, I would be glad to see a PECL extension able to read video files and grab screenshots (that seems to be quite common requirement). The ffmpeg extension is GPLed, which is a no-no for PECL. Re sound files, we already do have something: http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/pecl/sndfile/ It just wasn't released. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 3/21/07, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/21/2007 10:47 AM, Tijnema ! wrote: On 3/21/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I splice the ID3 tags onto the front of an MP3 stream in PHP on this site: http://uncommonground.com/ The id3 library in PHP is quite good at this, but needs a maintainer... Well, it is a start, now only processing work needs to be done :) To convert from MP3 to Wave for example, I think this will require the LAME lib, and to use with OGG, it will require the OGGvorbis lib. But about WMA, I never saw a Linux lib for it. So that would require creating a new lib for WMA, or directly implementing it into the PHP source. So the MP3 and OGG support shouldn't bee too hard to implement, but other file formats might be harder. And now I'm only talking about Audio, my first idea was to implement Video (Audio+Video). Video is even more advanced, then we should work with DivX and XviD codecs. (Thank god, they are Open Source). But having this support for video, it would be possible to easily create a site like youtube, where they even have a screenshot of the movie, which is actually just a frame in the middle of the file. And of course it would be possible to resize the video files. I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP. PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load. Like i said, video resizing might be useful for sites like youtube. And what i'm trying to do with audio is more extending the limits of PHP. Ever wanted to become a web DJ? There is a bunch of mature opensource utilities (transcoder, lame, oggenc etc.) and you can always use them to convert WAV to MP3 and AVI to OGG, it's just a matter of implementation. What about WMA? do you know a library/encoder dat does convert from/to WMA? That said, I would be glad to see a PECL extension able to read video files and grab screenshots (that seems to be quite common requirement). The ffmpeg extension is GPLed, which is a no-no for PECL. Well, video files are just a set of frames, so if a PECL extension is able to read video files, they already need to be decoded, and so, all work is done already, it shoudl be very easy to also create other formats then. Re sound files, we already do have something: http://cvs.php.net/viewvc.cgi/pecl/sndfile/ It just wasn't released. Ah, never checked the CVS for items. I will take a look at this PECL extension, and see what's done already :) Tijnema -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 03/21/2007 12:08 PM, Tijnema ! wrote: Like i said, video resizing might be useful for sites like youtube. I'm sure they don't do it each time the video is viewed. And what i'm trying to do with audio is more extending the limits of PHP. Ever wanted to become a web DJ? Nope. There is a bunch of mature opensource utilities (transcoder, lame, oggenc etc.) and you can always use them to convert WAV to MP3 and AVI to OGG, it's just a matter of implementation. What about WMA? do you know a library/encoder dat does convert from/to WMA? That windows-only format? I've never seen anybody using it. Well, video files are just a set of frames, so if a PECL extension is able to read video files, they already need to be decoded, and so, all work is done already, it shoudl be very easy to also create other formats then. Are you really going to create videos on the fly? -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 3/21/07, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/21/2007 12:08 PM, Tijnema ! wrote: Like i said, video resizing might be useful for sites like youtube. I'm sure they don't do it each time the video is viewed. Nope, they do it when uploading the video. And what i'm trying to do with audio is more extending the limits of PHP. Ever wanted to become a web DJ? Nope. Some others might ;) and there are of course a lot of ohter possibilities of usage. There is a bunch of mature opensource utilities (transcoder, lame, oggenc etc.) and you can always use them to convert WAV to MP3 and AVI to OGG, it's just a matter of implementation. What about WMA? do you know a library/encoder dat does convert from/to WMA? That windows-only format? I've never seen anybody using it. Well, i got huge music collection out here, just checking my main dir with 3104 songs, it says 2674 MP3, 320 WMA and 110 other file formats. Well, video files are just a set of frames, so if a PECL extension is able to read video files, they already need to be decoded, and so, all work is done already, it shoudl be very easy to also create other formats then. Are you really going to create videos on the fly? Yeah why not? what about setting up a stream? Having an movie showed at your homepage where you create that videos from your admin panel :) Tijnema -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 03/21/2007 12:26 PM, Tijnema ! wrote: That windows-only format? I've never seen anybody using it. Well, i got huge music collection out here, just checking my main dir with 3104 songs, it says 2674 MP3, 320 WMA and 110 other file formats. Well, video files are just a set of frames, so if a PECL extension is able to read video files, they already need to be decoded, and so, all work is done already, it shoudl be very easy to also create other formats then. Are you really going to create videos on the fly? Yeah why not? what about setting up a stream? Having an movie showed at your homepage where you create that videos from your admin panel :) Well, imagine your homepage became very popular and you have say 100 clients grabbing the video (created on the fly). I'm afraid you'll have to buy a Cray cluster to handle that. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
Robin Ericsson wrote: On 3/21/07, Bankó Ádám [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The project is existing, I'm doing it for about a year and a half, and SoC is way I can spend more time on it in the summer. If there is someone willing to something, and someone else is paying for it, let him do it. Why should it bother whether it's C or PHP? The community will benefit from it either way. Its a question of maintainability. Stuff like reverse engineering schema's from a database is simply not sensible to be done by C code. It requires a low barrier to entry, the ability to quickly fix things if you encounter a newer or very old obscure RDBMS version etc. regards, Lukas -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
I believe that PHP should have a bundled feature that can even support OO approach for OO enthusiasts (like me) and also Structural. If not bundled, support the project like Smarty, something like http://orm.php.net ... I have to say that your idea is good enough to even be out of Google SoC. This could be a separate project, and should already exist for years. If the only needed starting point is SoC, that's ok. But you have to understand that this project should already exist in PHP land. Java already has a lot of ORM tools, and Hibernate is the most known. PHP should have a similar thing. I like the idea of the bundled ORM support, I think it's getting so common, that bundling it with PHP makes sense. However, in the C vs. PHP question I agree with Jacob Santos, I think PHP land implementations are good, but if we create a common API, it should be written in C. Why is PDO implemented as a native extension? The project is existing, I'm doing it for about a year and a half, and SoC is way I can spend more time on it in the summer. I am not part of Core Team, but I'll deliver my proposal to everyone here. If we group ORM authors, generate a draft and implement it, I think we can reach a commom sense. As I already mentioned, this is out of SoC scope. I don't see why any open source project should be out of SoC scope. It's only a way for students to work on OS project in the summer instead of flipping burgers in McDonald's. Please, do not ignore the idea. An answer that this does not belong to PHP land is going against your own principles, since you're trying to bring PHP more OO. Yes, I like OO, and want create good object-oriented API, but I don't see why can't that be achieved with a native extension. Maybe you are thinking that C is not an OO language, so I can't build nicely object oriented software with it? If you look at a source you can see that OO and C can live together nicely. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=183889 I am opened to start a dialog about this subject. If you want to add me to your MSN/GTalk/Yahoo!/Skype: MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GTalk/Yahoo!/Skype: guilhermeblanco I've added you to my contact list, but I think the main discussion belongs to this list. Adam -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
On 3/21/07, Bankó Ádám [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The project is existing, I'm doing it for about a year and a half, and SoC is way I can spend more time on it in the summer. If there is someone willing to something, and someone else is paying for it, let him do it. Why should it bother whether it's C or PHP? The community will benefit from it either way. -- regards, Robin -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
You're talking about massive processing tasks here, which aren't really suited for PHP. The problem isn't just with clients waiting for a script to finish executing, but also with hammering the webservers. There's only so many MaxClients a webserver allows. It may be useful for CLI apps, but keep in mind that you're talking about highly complex and specialized tasks, and interfacing them from PHP can only be as complex, so what's the gain really when you can execute external programs? Extracting movie snaps is interesting but it also could be resource intensive. You'd need to decode to raw video, then grab the frame (a frame at a random position isn't always complete in compressed video, thus the need for decoding). I have no thorough video knowledge, but this is what I ended up doing when I needed this and similar functionality (movie snaps and 10 second previews). Got the job done with mplayer and mencoder. Resizing videos for online use isn't just *that*. You'd probably want to encode (to flv, or whatever you're using) the video and fiddle with different video aspects/properties while at that. You'd also need to reencode the audio part. So you'd need to expose a very complicated API - provided you find a library suited for all this. I'd say leave this to specialized projects. V Tijnema ! wrote: On 3/21/07, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/21/2007 12:08 PM, Tijnema ! wrote: Like i said, video resizing might be useful for sites like youtube. I'm sure they don't do it each time the video is viewed. Nope, they do it when uploading the video. And what i'm trying to do with audio is more extending the limits of PHP. Ever wanted to become a web DJ? Nope. Some others might ;) and there are of course a lot of ohter possibilities of usage. There is a bunch of mature opensource utilities (transcoder, lame, oggenc etc.) and you can always use them to convert WAV to MP3 and AVI to OGG, it's just a matter of implementation. What about WMA? do you know a library/encoder dat does convert from/to WMA? That windows-only format? I've never seen anybody using it. Well, i got huge music collection out here, just checking my main dir with 3104 songs, it says 2674 MP3, 320 WMA and 110 other file formats. Well, video files are just a set of frames, so if a PECL extension is able to read video files, they already need to be decoded, and so, all work is done already, it shoudl be very easy to also create other formats then. Are you really going to create videos on the fly? Yeah why not? what about setting up a stream? Having an movie showed at your homepage where you create that videos from your admin panel :) Tijnema -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 03/21/2007 03:48 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 11:57 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote: I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP. PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load. I think this is a limitation in your grasp of where and why PHP is being used. I (and many others I've seen pass through php-general -- and countless others I'm sure) use PHP as a general purpose scripting engine for not just the web, but for shell scripts, and anything else that comes to mind. I'm using PHP as a general purpose language either, but that doesn't mean I'm encoding video with it. There are specialized tools for that and I don't think we should re-implement them just because we can (c). Btw, if you read whole discussion (and not just the last email), you'd see that nobody even mentioned CLI. I'm sure the PHP-GTK and other GUI binding extensions would argue with you also. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
I agree. Because I can use 1 language to deal with web/cli/gui, I can create classes which can be used in all 3 environments (though I'm not GUI-ing at the moment). And from that single code base I can fix multiple applications instantly without the need to recompile hundreds of programs and libraries. I can potentially enhance all the applications by adding new functionality. All sorts of good things. Being interpreted and having multiple modes of operation is a fantastic thing. I no longer write C/Delphi/BAT/sh scripts. I write PHP classes and use them wherever I want/need. Testing via a CLI is a lot easier sometimes than via a browser. Though, I probably WOULDN'T to video encoding using userland PHP, being able to do some things in userland PHP via an extension to a library would be excellent. The JEDI project for Delphi comes to mind (http://www.delphi-jedi.org/). In its simplest form, the results of the JEDI project is to allow Delphi to interact with any library. Normally libraries have .h header files. But Delphi doesn't so the JEDI project is a massive repository of code to allow you to interact with these libraries. JEDI extends the capabilities of Delphi considerably. And I doubt everyone uses every new piece of functionality. As a GSoC project idea, how about a mechanism to allow OS interaction OUTSIDE of a PHP extension? I'm on windows, so that's what I know, but not all things can be accessed from within PHP. But if there was a way to bind to a particular library (like you would do in compilable languages), then this could open PHP to a LOT more libraries a LOT quicker and without the need to understand ALL the intricacies of PHP's internals. Maybe. On 21/03/07, Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 11:57 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote: I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP. PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load. I think this is a limitation in your grasp of where and why PHP is being used. I (and many others I've seen pass through php-general -- and countless others I'm sure) use PHP as a general purpose scripting engine for not just the web, but for shell scripts, and anything else that comes to mind. I'm sure the PHP-GTK and other GUI binding extensions would argue with you also. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- - Richard Quadling Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498r=213474731 Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants! -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 16:09 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote: On 03/21/2007 03:48 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 11:57 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote: I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP. PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load. I think this is a limitation in your grasp of where and why PHP is being used. I (and many others I've seen pass through php-general -- and countless others I'm sure) use PHP as a general purpose scripting engine for not just the web, but for shell scripts, and anything else that comes to mind. I'm using PHP as a general purpose language either, but that doesn't mean I'm encoding video with it. There are specialized tools for that and I don't think we should re-implement them just because we can (c). It's common in PHP to take specialized tools and create a PHP wrapper layer. I would never suggest re-implementation when a great lib already exists. Btw, if you read whole discussion (and not just the last email), you'd see that nobody even mentioned CLI. I did read the entire discussion... but that doesn't change the point of the comment :) Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
Andrey Hristov wrote: Hi, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Robin Ericsson wrote: On 3/21/07, Bankó Ádám [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The project is existing, I'm doing it for about a year and a half, and SoC is way I can spend more time on it in the summer. If there is someone willing to something, and someone else is paying for it, let him do it. Why should it bother whether it's C or PHP? The community will benefit from it either way. Its a question of maintainability. Stuff like reverse engineering schema's from a database is simply not sensible to be done by C code. It requires a low barrier to entry, the ability to quickly fix things if you encounter a newer or very old obscure RDBMS version etc. Then make a mix of PHP and C code. C call call PHP userland, so it shouldn't be a problem. And as I see it, it is always good to have reference implementation in PHP and port it to C. I think Marcus did it while implementing SPL. Yes .. so for the proposal .. step 1) would be defining interfaces and abstract classes to represent things. this could go into C regards, Lukas -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 03/21/2007 04:15 PM, Richard Quadling wrote: I agree. Because I can use 1 language to deal with web/cli/gui, I can create classes which can be used in all 3 environments (though I'm not GUI-ing at the moment). And from that single code base I can fix multiple applications instantly without the need to recompile hundreds of programs and libraries. I can potentially enhance all the applications by adding new functionality. All sorts of good things. Being interpreted and having multiple modes of operation is a fantastic thing. I no longer write C/Delphi/BAT/sh scripts. I write PHP classes and use them wherever I want/need. Testing via a CLI is a lot easier sometimes than via a browser. Though, I probably WOULDN'T to video encoding using userland PHP, being able to do some things in userland PHP via an extension to a library would be excellent. The JEDI project for Delphi comes to mind (http://www.delphi-jedi.org/). In its simplest form, the results of the JEDI project is to allow Delphi to interact with any library. Normally libraries have .h header files. But Delphi doesn't so the JEDI project is a massive repository of code to allow you to interact with these libraries. JEDI extends the capabilities of Delphi considerably. And I doubt everyone uses every new piece of functionality. As a GSoC project idea, how about a mechanism to allow OS interaction OUTSIDE of a PHP extension? I'm on windows, so that's what I know, but not all things can be accessed from within PHP. But if there was a way to bind to a particular library (like you would do in compilable languages), then this could open PHP to a LOT more libraries a LOT quicker and without the need to understand ALL the intricacies of PHP's internals. Maybe. You mean something like this? http://pecl.php.net/package/ffi -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 11:57 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote: I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP. PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load. I think this is a limitation in your grasp of where and why PHP is being used. I (and many others I've seen pass through php-general -- and countless others I'm sure) use PHP as a general purpose scripting engine for not just the web, but for shell scripts, and anything else that comes to mind. I'm sure the PHP-GTK and other GUI binding extensions would argue with you also. Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
Hi, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Robin Ericsson wrote: On 3/21/07, Bankó Ádám [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The project is existing, I'm doing it for about a year and a half, and SoC is way I can spend more time on it in the summer. If there is someone willing to something, and someone else is paying for it, let him do it. Why should it bother whether it's C or PHP? The community will benefit from it either way. Its a question of maintainability. Stuff like reverse engineering schema's from a database is simply not sensible to be done by C code. It requires a low barrier to entry, the ability to quickly fix things if you encounter a newer or very old obscure RDBMS version etc. Then make a mix of PHP and C code. C call call PHP userland, so it shouldn't be a problem. And as I see it, it is always good to have reference implementation in PHP and port it to C. I think Marcus did it while implementing SPL. regards, Lukas Ciao, Andrey -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
Hi, Bankó Ádám wrote: Then make a mix of PHP and C code. C call call PHP userland, so it shouldn't be a problem. I don't want to write a full ORM, only a common base, that others can extend .. for example with INI/XML file configuration, schema auto discovery etc. And as I see it, it is always good to have a reference implementation in PHP and port it to C. I think Marcus did it while implementing SPL. If I'd be doing it Top-down, that clearly would be a good idea. But I'm doing it with a iterative, XP like method. you can do the same with XP too. As in PHP so in C you will have to establish a common ground on which the further development will stand on. Then part by part implement in PHP and port to C. Having tests will help a lot. First I do simple implementations for parts, and then I extend it to support more features. For example on the first run, the system was monolithic, now it has database drivers, database types and high-level types implemented as sub-modules (mostly as polymorphic classes). This is not the most effective approach, but it produces working code early. Adam Andrey -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
you can do the same with XP too. As in PHP so in C you will have to establish a common ground on which the further development will stand on. Then part by part implement in PHP and port to C. Having tests will help a lot. Maybe you are right, but I don't like the idea of doing everything twice. Once for the PHP and once for the C version. I think for me this would more disadvantages then advantages. Adam -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] GSoC
On 3/21/07, Antony Dovgal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/21/2007 03:48 PM, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 11:57 +0300, Antony Dovgal wrote: I don't think anybody sane is doing audio encoding and video resizing in PHP. PHP is about interface, clients are not going to wait an hour or two for a page to load. I think this is a limitation in your grasp of where and why PHP is being used. I (and many others I've seen pass through php-general -- and countless others I'm sure) use PHP as a general purpose scripting engine for not just the web, but for shell scripts, and anything else that comes to mind. I'm using PHP as a general purpose language either, but that doesn't mean I'm encoding video with it. There are specialized tools for that and I don't think we should re-implement them just because we can (c). Btw, if you read whole discussion (and not just the last email), you'd see that nobody even mentioned CLI. I'm sure the PHP-GTK and other GUI binding extensions would argue with you also. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal Well, what I'm doing nowadays is using PHP for more then only creating websites. As at this point a large amount of people is on broadband and not caring about a big site. Also the server's are getting faster, of course it still requires a good server to handle a lot of video encoding/decoding tasks, but this could also be done with 1 at a time, setting the others in wait list stored in a database for example. I never care about speed, I want things be done easily. and that's one of the biggest reasons i'm using PHP for about everything. if you compare PHP with C/C++ then is PHP a lot simpler, for example PHP variables are just defined when using them for the first time. And then you don't need to define what it exactly is, is it an array?, integer?, string? and just a little bit later i changed my mind and use the same variable as something else. If a real PHP Compiler existed I think I would even write programs in PHP. I'm just trying to extend the limits of PHP what it is now. Currently it supports already a lot of things, from databases to XML parsing :) And of course the portability of PHP is very nice. Most scripts run on browser and CLI, windows and linux. But not everyone is using PHP like me, and that's why I'm talking here with you guys about my ideas. And so if there's enough interest we could start a new project. But it seems like that there's not enough interest for this project. I also noted a PHP Compiler, I saw some tools on the net about this, but found that it was only for creating windows applications, anyone saw a PHP compiler for linux? Regards, Tijnema -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Re: google SoC - dbobj
Hi! I've created a draft of what would be the Abstract of my application. Please review it, if I'm mistaken in something or left out an important point. This will be the public part of the application. There will be a more detailed description, but it will be visible only to mentors. BEGIN Creating a native object persistence module for PHP Object persistence is a form of Object-Relational Mapping, a technology that has recently became very important for complex web applications. For the PHP developer, ORM means a layer that abstracts the complexity of the relational database, and presents a nicer, object-oriented interface. So it simplifies data access. There are many different implementations, most are written in PHP. I'm proposing a native (compiled from c) extension that would only support some basic features, but can be extended (with PHP) to have complex, high-level features (like database schema auto-discovery). The overall goal is to have an extension bundled with PHP, that could be a common base for full ORM solutions. If the currently very diverse ORM implementations would have a common base, it would ease the learning of different implementations, and enable ORM developers to concentrate on high-level features. Using ORM solutions based on a native module would also mean a smaller overhead compared to pure-PHP implementations. The project (in it's current form) is about 70% ready, and during the summer my plan is to make it about 90% complete. The most important goals for the summer are: - Implementing a database driver module that uses PDO, so all PDO supported databases will be supported. - Implementing exception-based error handling. - Rewriting the outer interface to what the community finds the best. - Some testing, finding and eliminating bugs. So the extension will be mostly usable. However it won't be complete. It will still lack: - A good documentation, - a full code review to eliminate possible security holes, - support for safe_mode and for cases where non-controlled PHP code is used (for example web hosting). For the current status of the project and more information consult the project's wiki at http://dbobj.sourceforge.net/ . END Adam -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Re: google SoC - dbobj
Hi! I've created a draft of what would be the Abstract of my application. Please review it, if I'm mistaken in something or left out an important point. This will be the public part of the application. There will be a more detailed description, but it will be visible only to mentors. BEGIN Creating a native object persistence module for PHP Object persistence is a form of Object-Relational Mapping, a technology that has recently became very important for complex web applications. For the PHP developer, ORM means a layer that abstracts the complexity of the relational database, and presents a nicer, object-oriented interface. So it simplifies data access. There are many different implementations, most are written in PHP. I'm proposing a native (compiled from c) extension that would only support some basic features, but can be extended (with PHP) to have complex, high-level features (like database schema auto-discovery). The overall goal is to have an extension bundled with PHP, that could be a common base for full ORM solutions. If the currently very diverse ORM implementations would have a common base, it would ease the learning of different implementations, and enable ORM developers to concentrate on high-level features. Using ORM solutions based on a native module would also mean a smaller overhead compared to pure-PHP implementations. The project (in it's current form) is about 70% ready, and during the summer my plan is to make it about 90% complete. The most important goals for the summer are: - Implementing a database driver module that uses PDO, so all PDO supported databases will be supported. - Implementing exception-based error handling. - Rewriting the outer interface to what the community finds the best. - Some testing, finding and eliminating bugs. So the extension will be mostly usable. However it won't be complete. It will still lack: - A good documentation, - a full code review to eliminate possible security holes, - support for safe_mode and for cases where non-controlled PHP code is used (for example web hosting). For the current status of the project and more information consult the project's wiki at http://dbobj.sourceforge.net/ . END Adam -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
Developing the extension like SPL would allow for very quick development and maintainability for the extension. It is extremely easy to have interfaces, exceptions, and in some cases abstract classes written in C and easily updated when changes, if any, are made. I was able to translate a great portion of one project library to a PHP extension over a short time period of three days (of course I had the Extending PHP book, PDO, and SPL as references... and luckily I didn't need to work with any of the C Standard Library). The way the current project is handled is extremely good. It shouldn't be difficult to isolate where the changes need to be made and make them. As for maintainability, if there are enough programmers, then it shouldn't be a hassle to maintain the extension. There are quite a number of features that should be implemented in C, even if they are extremely difficult, because it would take too long to process in PHP. I think the ORM C PHP extension will be quicker than anything in PHP. It doesn't have to handle everything, just the most common ORM features and allow extending. Just need to decide what features that is and what features the project already has. I do think it would be easier to come up with a standard for the project, if perhaps Banko didn't spend a whole year and a half on it. I do hope that the mailing list sorts out which features should be in the PHP extension to allow for interoperability between the ORM PHP libraries. It would probably take another year, but it would be nice if it was bundled in a later version of PHP 5.x and PHP 6. Jacob Santos Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Andrey Hristov wrote: Hi, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Robin Ericsson wrote: On 3/21/07, Bankó Ádám [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The project is existing, I'm doing it for about a year and a half, and SoC is way I can spend more time on it in the summer. If there is someone willing to something, and someone else is paying for it, let him do it. Why should it bother whether it's C or PHP? The community will benefit from it either way. Its a question of maintainability. Stuff like reverse engineering schema's from a database is simply not sensible to be done by C code. It requires a low barrier to entry, the ability to quickly fix things if you encounter a newer or very old obscure RDBMS version etc. Then make a mix of PHP and C code. C call call PHP userland, so it shouldn't be a problem. And as I see it, it is always good to have reference implementation in PHP and port it to C. I think Marcus did it while implementing SPL. Yes .. so for the proposal .. step 1) would be defining interfaces and abstract classes to represent things. this could go into C regards, Lukas -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] PATCH: anonymous functions in PHP
So does this mean that the patch would be included even in its somewhat broken
state? Just don't allow it in loops or warn when it is or access to outside
scope variables.
I need to get VLD working on Windows to see what the fuss is all about. I
thought everything is compiled to oplines, if that is so, then why not back up
to the previous function space, keep the scope when you encounter an inside
function, which should be assumed to be a closure.
If you compile and store the closure function in top level userspace, then it
should be able to be accessed at runtime.
function test()
{
$f = function () { return 0; }
return $f;
}
$closure = test();
$closure();
Err, Pseudo-oplines, but since I don't exactly know anything about PHP opcodes,
I'm just pulling this stuff out of my ass.
CREATE_FUNCTION test
CREATE_FUNCTION zend_anon_0
RET_VAL 0
END_FUNCTION
END_FUNCTION
CALL 'test'
ASSIGN $0, $valuefunction
(I have to admit that I'm not that far in Assembler for procedures (yes, I'm a
kook, but I can change baby, just give me another chance) and I apologize, but
thanks for reading this far!)
CALL $0
In which at run time the following can be replaced with:
CREATE_FUNCTION 'zend_anon_0'
RET_VAL 0
END_FUNCTION
CREATE_FUNCTION 'test'
RET_CLOSURE 'zend_anon_0'
END_FUNCTION
CALL 'test'
CALL 'zend_anon_0'
I do recall that parameters are passed somewhere. Eh. Aside from getting the
Oplines, opcodes, as well as the instruction names wrong, and pretty much
everything. What else is wrong with this?
But if that's the best that can be done with the resources available,
I think it would be a good compromise.
Especially as it leaves open the possiblity of someday nailing down a
complete clear definition of what the scoping rules turn out to be,
with room for experimentation in the meantime without violating BC.
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Re: [PHP-DEV] google SoC - dbobj
I do think it would be easier to come up with a standard for the project, if perhaps Banko didn't spend a whole year and a half on it. I do hope that the mailing list sorts out which features should be in the PHP extension to allow for interoperability between the ORM PHP libraries. It would probably take another year, but it would be nice if it was bundled in a later version of PHP 5.x and PHP 6. Maybe true, it would be easier to create the standard from scratch. But look at the good side. There's a current API that we can start talking about. The current outer interface (what matters most for PHP developers) is very flexible. And if the community can settle at a standard API, I'm willing to implement it. Please, everyone, have a look at one of the examples (dbobj.php or forum.php in the source) and decide if the current API is a good starting pont. As for the SoC application, I'll try to write something not too specific so the specification won't go against the community's future decisions. I hope google will accept it this way... Adam Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Andrey Hristov wrote: Hi, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Robin Ericsson wrote: On 3/21/07, Bankó Ádám [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The project is existing, I'm doing it for about a year and a half, and SoC is way I can spend more time on it in the summer. If there is someone willing to something, and someone else is paying for it, let him do it. Why should it bother whether it's C or PHP? The community will benefit from it either way. Its a question of maintainability. Stuff like reverse engineering schema's from a database is simply not sensible to be done by C code. It requires a low barrier to entry, the ability to quickly fix things if you encounter a newer or very old obscure RDBMS version etc. Then make a mix of PHP and C code. C call call PHP userland, so it shouldn't be a problem. And as I see it, it is always good to have reference implementation in PHP and port it to C. I think Marcus did it while implementing SPL. Yes .. so for the proposal .. step 1) would be defining interfaces and abstract classes to represent things. this could go into C regards, Lukas -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] php6CVS cannot be compiled
Trying to compile php6 with next configure line: ../configure \ --with-curl \ --enable-fastcgi \ --with-mysql \ --without-mysqli \ --with-mbstring \ --enable-force-cgi-redirect \ --with-xpm \ --with-jpeg \ --with-png \ --with-zlib \ --with-tiff \ --with-zip \ --with-gd \ --with-ttf \ --with-freetype=/usr/include/freetype2/freetype \ --enable-discard-path \ --enable-gd-native-ttf \ --enable-freetype And I got the next compile error: /bin/sh /root/php/cvs/php6/libtool --silent --preserve-dup-deps --mode=compile cc -Iext/standard/ -I/root/php/cvs/php6/ext/standard/ -DPHP_ATOM_INC -I/root/php/cvs/php6/include -I/root/php/cvs/php6/main -I/root/php/cvs/php6 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/root/php/cvs/php6/pcrelib -I/root/php/cvs/php6/ext/date/lib -I/usr/include/mysql -I/root/php/cvs/php6/TSRM -I/root/php/cvs/php6/Zend-I/usr/include -g -O2 -c /root/php/cvs/php6/ext/standard/basic_functions.c -o ext/standard/basic_functions.lo /root/php/cvs/php6/ext/standard/basic_functions.c:45:34: error: zend_language_parser.h: No such file or directory make: *** [ext/standard/basic_functions.lo] Error 1 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] php6CVS cannot be compiled
On 03/21/2007 07:30 PM, paul sohier wrote: /root/php/cvs/php6/ext/standard/basic_functions.c:45:34: error: zend_language_parser.h: No such file or directory make: *** [ext/standard/basic_functions.lo] Error 1 You need to install flex 2.5.4. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] PATCH: anonymous functions in PHP
Err, Pseudo-oplines, but since I don't exactly know anything about PHP
opcodes, I'm just pulling this stuff out of my ass.
CREATE_FUNCTION test
CREATE_FUNCTION zend_anon_0
RET_VAL 0
END_FUNCTION
END_FUNCTION
CALL 'test'
ASSIGN $0, $valuefunction
It looks like you misunderstand how the engine compiles functions. Each
function has its own op array. Also, the code you brought is less
interesting. More interesting is code such as:
function prefixer($p)
{
$f = function ($name) { return $p. $name; }
return $f;
}
$mr = prefixer(Mr);
$mrs = prefixer(Mrs);
echo $mr(Jones);
echo $mrs(Jones);
As you could have guessed, that should result in Mr. Jones and Mrs.
Jones printed. Figuring out where the Mr. comes from when
$mr(Jones) is called would help understand how closure works.
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: google SoC - dbobj
Sounds interesting.. - You may want to reference these on your docs: http://pecl.php.net/package/DBDO http://www.akbkhome.com/wiki.php/DBDO/index.html http://www.akbkhome.com/svn/dbdo/ http://www.akbkhome.com/svn/dbdo_pdo/ While the project is pretty dead now, the API was pretty fully worked out by the time I gave up.. From my perspective the reality is that DB_DataObject works for every situation I've thrown at it, so the only motivation to fix it is external (occasional complaints about speed/overhead) rather than on a 'need' basis... I also got fed up digging through PHP's and PDO's macro hell... - If someone wanted to do a really cool SoC - creating a method/makefiles/base classes etc. of writing PHP extensions in D would make a mindblowing toolkit... - I suspect something like dbobj/dbdo would be a few days work if that existed... Anyway good luck. Regards Alan Bankó Ádám wrote: Hi! I've created a draft of what would be the Abstract of my application. Please review it, if I'm mistaken in something or left out an important point. This will be the public part of the application. There will be a more detailed description, but it will be visible only to mentors. . For the current status of the project and more information consult the project's wiki at http://dbobj.sourceforge.net/ . END Adam -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
