Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 07:50:29PM -0500, Jack Timmons wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote: I'm not arguing about learning another culture. The argument is that an error message that should be straight forward, isn't. You misunderstand my point. It isn't straightforward for -you- because that isn't your native language. Thus the cultural point. But if switched to T_DOUBLE_COLON, then others who don't know English could then argue it isn't straight forward. It's an entirely pedantic point to argue, I agree, but thus far you entire complain was because it isn't in English, and you want it changed so you don't have to hear about it constantly. The fact is, it says double colon in a different language, so aside from translation there's nothing wrong with it at all. Magic would be internationalizing the error messages, but then there will be someone whose language doesn't have a version. My native language isn't English and isn't Hebrew. I'm being fucked twice! A lot of people (including me) don't know Hebrew nor care about it. The reason for keeping this error message seems to be to teach people a lesson about how difficult it is for some people to learn a new natural language. It's obvouisly your right to do so. But what you'r saying here is just nonsense. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON
Colon? Be doubly sure to eat a healthy fiber enriched diet with plenty of water! Regards, Philip -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON
On 10/30/2010 07:50 PM, Jack Timmons wrote: On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Chad Emrysad...@codeangel.org wrote: I'm not arguing about learning another culture. The argument is that an error message that should be straight forward, isn't. You misunderstand my point. It isn't straightforward for -you- because that isn't your native language. Thus the cultural point. But if switched to T_DOUBLE_COLON, then others who don't know English could then argue it isn't straight forward. It's an entirely pedantic point to argue, I agree, but thus far you entire complain was because it isn't in English, and you want it changed so you don't have to hear about it constantly. The fact is, it says double colon in a different language, so aside from translation there's nothing wrong with it at all. Magic would be internationalizing the error messages, but then there will be someone whose language doesn't have a version. That wouldn't bother me if it was in a different language as long as all tokens are consistently in another language. The fact there is ONE token in Hebrew is inconsistent and not straight forward. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
