Re: [PHP-DEV] Future stability of PHP?

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On 08/04/2023 19:36, Stephan Soller wrote:



A few days ago I migrated a project from PHP 7.1 to 8.2 and the amount of
deprecations and fatal errors spooked me a bit (details below if you're
interested). That got me wondering about the long-term stability of 
PHP (as in
language and API breaks) and I looked at the RFCs. I got the 
impression that
static typing has a lot of traction now and I have no idea of what the 
fallout
might be of changing a dynamically typed language into a statically 
typed one.
Also API breaks seem to become more frequent (e.g. utf8_decode). I 
stumbled
across the language evolution RFC proposals but it seems that approach 
was

abandoned.


I think the php focus has shifted from its original ethos. PHP was 
designed to be a tool to access sql databases and so the language was 
quite simple.


Now php has become so difficult that people are asking what is the point 
pf PHP when programming languages such as c# or C or C++ or JS can do 
everything. It is difficult to learn these languages but so is PHP 
because it is becoming more like a desktop programming language. Might 
as well spend time learning main stream programming languages.


PHP should focus on one thing and one thing only and that is to be the 
simplest tool for sql servers, mainly MySQL but also try supporting 
MS-SQL and PL-SQL (Oracle's premium database system).


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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

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On 06/03/2022 22:32, Kris Craig wrote:
>  From a philosophical perspective, it could be argued that the war was
> already underway.  And since Hitler started that war to conquer, I would
> argue that WWII, like every other war, was unnecessary.
>
> That's not to say it wasn't necessary for the allies to get involved.  But
> we didn't start that war, and it most certainly was not necessary for
> Germany to invade Poland.
>
> Fighting a war to end a war is one thing.  Starting a war, on the other
> hand
>
Why are you still going on about this. This is a PHP forum and there is 
no room for history or philosophy lessons here. Just cut it out and move on.


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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

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On 05/03/2022 22:26, Kris Craig wrote:
>
> out a statement of solidarity with the victims of war or are we talking
> about putting out a political statement demanding the arrest of a world
> leader?  *THE TWO ARE NOT ONE AND THE SAME!! *


Putin is no longer a world leader by any standards. He is a pariah 
because of his actions over the past 10 years.

I was simply trying to create something when you said:

"I think just about everybody here agrees that Putin is a war criminal 
and an all-around ass
who deserves to be brought to justice for his many crimes, including those
against Ukraine. "

Did you say that?

However, let's cut the chaff. How about this sanitised version?

We Stand With Ukraine 


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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

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On 05/03/2022 11:45, Sergey Panteleev wrote:
>
> Several members have asked not to have a debate on this mailing list,
> let's respect their opinions too.
>
>
>

It's not debating. The original post was simply asking to show true 
colors of Ukraine's flag in these posts but HTML is not allowed here. I 
have created a simple HTML code that show something like this:

Arrest Dictator Putin 


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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP Community to support Ukraine and help to stop Russian agression

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Please read post in HTML to see the main message!!


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Broken reference at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/howto

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On 13/08/2021 23:43, Willian de Souza wrote:

Hi all,

Hope I'm in the right place, I was reading 
 and I found a broken reference,
the link to the explanation of the "bottom post"  in first step 
redirects to this page:
 


I don't know what is correct page, i can't find it.

Regards, Willian.



I believe the correct link should be:




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Re: [PHP-DEV] Reply to an old thread

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On 21/07/2021 18:46, Tobias Nyholm wrote:

Hey.
Sorry for my beginner questions.

I’ve decided to be more active on the mailing list now and to reply to different threads. 
I’ve saw this RFC [https://wiki.php.net/rfc/parse_str_alternative 
] which interest me and I would like 
to rely to to this message: https://news-web.php.net/php.internals/115081 


I was not subscribed at the time, so how would I properly reply to that thread 
in the mailing list?

// Tobias


I don't use the mailing list but I get the feeds on gmane. Perhaps you 
can try this link:




You need a news reader such as Mozilla Thunderbird or something similar. 
This allows you to down all the messages in a particular mail list and 
then you can reply from it.



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Could we drop the bottom-posting rule?

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On 11/05/2021 15:36, Sara Golemon wrote:

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 9:21 AM Chase Peeler  wrote:

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 2:34 AM Mel Dafert  wrote:

(Gmail certainly can't, it can't even send non-HTML mails, and even with
K-9 I have to remember doing it.)


I’m sending this from gmail on my phone, so not sure what you are talking
about.


This plaintext reply sent via Gmail web client. I don't know what Mel is
talking about either.



I decided to bottom-post and in HTML to see if it works here.  I know it 
is going to cause unnecessary discussion about HTML on these 
forums/newsgroups or whatever they are called these days.








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Re: [PHP-DEV] Could we drop the bottom-posting rule?

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People are using smart phones these days so top posting is very 
convenient.  As you say people don't read the entire thread so why keep 
them in the posts when replying?  Surely, there are other means to get 
the gist of the discussion if one wants to be reminded about.



On 11/05/2021 08:23, Pierre wrote:
I'm opposed to dropping the bottom-posting rule, for the simple reason 
that you naturally read from top to bottom, and most people don't 
bother reading again the whole thread when they read a single answer.






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Re: [PHP-DEV] Could we drop the bottom-posting rule?

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With top posts people can go straight to the point raised by the 
poster.  If anyone is following the thread, he doesn't need 3 pages of 
previous posts.  All he needs is what is being posted by the poster in 
question.


People don't need the history of entire thread in one post because it is 
available by some other means.


On 11/05/2021 08:11, Marco Pivetta wrote:


Heck, even my phone can read top-posts,




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Re: [PHP-DEV] Could we drop the bottom-posting rule?

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On 10/05/2021 23:00, Alain D D Williams wrote:

Please do not change - keep bottom posting.



No I don't agree.  People can do whatever is convenient for them.  Some 
will top-post; Some will bottom-post and some will inter-post.  By 
interpost I mean people will try to respond to a post on a point by 
point basis.


Frankly anything is acceptable to people as long as it gives a coherent 
answer that is convincing!



People should learn to trim some part of the post that they are not 
responding to like I have done here.




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Re: [PHP-DEV] Abusive emails was: silly question : what is more secure at the moment, php7, php8, or plain .sh shell scripts?

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On 14/01/2021 10:29, Kris Craig wrote:


Wait did somebody actually contact this troll's employer?!


And his/her ISP.  these days ISPs are taking these things very seriously 
indeed.



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Moving from SVN to git - finally!

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On 29/12/2020 20:01, Tiffany Taylor wrote:
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020, 1:11 PM  Good Guy  <mailto:xfs...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


On 29/12/2020 18:34, Andreas Heigl wrote:
>
> Tomorrow we will remove docs-karma from SVN, do a final
transition and
> then add doc-karma to git. Then all contributions to the
> PHP-Documentation will be via git.php.net <http://git.php.net>
>

Why kill it so soon?  Keep it for two or three more weeks in tandem
with  GIT for the process to settle down.    Sometimes moving can go
wrong so there is always a fall back.



They have been running in tandem for several months already. Someone 
involved with the migration, please correct me if I'm wrong. Members 
of the docs team who also contribute through GitHub have spent the 
past several months this year maintaining a repo for SVN and a repo 
for GitHub, it has been frustrating to keep them correctly synced.




I just went to the base and didn't get anything so I concluded that it 
hasn't been migrated yet.


<https://git.php.net/repository/doc/base.git>

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[PHP-DEV] Re: Moving from SVN to git - finally!

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On 29/12/2020 18:34, Andreas Heigl wrote:


Tomorrow we will remove docs-karma from SVN, do a final transition and
then add doc-karma to git. Then all contributions to the
PHP-Documentation will be via git.php.net



Why kill it so soon?  Keep it for two or three more weeks in tandem 
with  GIT for the process to settle down.    Sometimes moving can go 
wrong so there is always a fall back.




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Re: [PHP-DEV] Microsoft Statement on PHP

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On 14/07/2020 00:46, Dale Hirt via internals wrote:

For over a decade, Microsoft has helped fund build infrastructure for the PHP 
for Windows community. We decided to transition out of this effort starting 
with the upcoming release and as part of our yearly review of this investment. 
During this transition, we will work with members of the community who choose 
to take this packaging on. While we will no longer work on PHP builds for 
Windows, expect to see us remain involved in PHP in many ways across MS as we 
continue supporting PHP developers and collaborating with the community on 
security fixes.

Dale Hirt
Service Engineer
Microsoft

What will help this community most is to have a copy of your notes of 
workflow of how the binaries were created so easily!. Microsoft has got 
one of the best document site on C#, C++ and Azure but I haven't seen 
anything about php.  It would, therefore be very useful if something 
about php is posted somewhere so that php users, who are still on 
Windows and wants to remain on windows, can continue  compiling the php 
code for private use.



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Microsoft Support of PHP on Windows

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On 10/07/2020 17:01, Jan Ehrhardt wrote:



I am building PHP for Windows myself, but I know from the questions I am
getting that a lot of corporate customers of Microsoft are running PHP
on Windows Server 2016 or 2019. They are only allowed to use the
official binaries that are supplied on windows.php.net or pecl.php.net.
These corporate customers surely will not be amused by dropping
Microsoft's support for PHP 8.



Have you thought of uploading your binaries on php.net AFTER Microsoft 
has quit the php support?  Windows binaries were very useful for 
developing websites on windows system which is still the dominant 
operating system though, web developers will adapt the workload on 
ubuntu and Mint.  I still use Windows and I regularly  download Apache 
from apachelounge and php from the official website.





Besides that, SMB customers are often using Microsoft Azure for their
Windows Server needs. Windows Azure will loose a lot of selling points
without supported PHP binaries. A quick search on Azure marketplace
revealed as well that some Azure partners will also be left in the cold:
https://azuremarketplace.microsoft.com/en-us/marketplace/apps?search=windows+php
Are the Azure Sales people already informed about your decision?


I suspect Microsoft wants to market its own product called Blazor 



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Re: [PHP-DEV] People.php.net

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On 23/06/2019 17:15, Scott Dutton wrote:

It seems people is down

For example https://people.php.net/rasmus

Not sure if people are aware

Thanks

Scott


did you try this link:



Remove the s after http.   something wrong with the security settings.





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Re: [PHP-DEV] Official Twitter Account

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On 06/12/2018 18:08, Sara Golemon wrote:

Because Europeans have different sleeping hours than Americans.



No the hours are the same;  Time Zones are different; :-) :-) :-)





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Re: [PHP-DEV] unsuscribe

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On 30/01/2018 14:20, Alvaro Torres wrote:


Please read this if you want to unsubscribe:






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Re: [PHP-DEV] The site bugs.php.net appears to be down

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On 17/11/2017 22:03, Ryan Jentzsch wrote:

I am trying to look up and/or enter a bug report:

downforeveryoneorjustme.com reports:
   Is bugs.php.net down?
   It's not just you! bugs.php.net looks down from here.



Could be a bug! :-) :-) :-)

Re: [PHP-DEV] Misspelled word

[Good Guy]

On 25/04/2016 01:13, Gregg Taylor wrote:

The word person is misspelled as perason on this page:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc in the note near the top



Is this what you are talking about?



Person Text 

Re: [PHP-DEV] php wiki

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On 13/03/2016 23:17, Avtandil Kikabidze wrote:

Hi. I am web developer from Georgia, Tbilisi. About me https://longman.me/cv
How I can register on php wiki? I am trying here
https://wiki.php.net/rfc?do=register but I got error: "That wasn't the
answer we were expecting"
Please help me



Please contact at this email and ask them to redirect you to the correct 
department:


internals@lists.php.net

Good luck.

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.1 is available

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On 17/12/2015 14:36, Anatol belski wrote:

Hi,

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP
7.0.1. Several bugs have been fixed. All PHP 7.0 users are encouraged to
upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 7.0.1 please visit our downloads page:
http://www.php.net/downloads.php

  Windows binaries can be found on http://windows.php.net/download/

The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog:
http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-7.php#7.0.1






So it must be time to force our hosts to offer php 7.  Just downloaded 
the windows binanries to try it on my local machine. Hope it works with 
WP, joomla and Drupal.



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Re: [PHP-DEV] Benchmark Results for PHP Master 2015-12-17

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On 18/12/15 02:15, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
The objective of this benchmark is to alert developers accidental 
performance drop. Even small change may affect performance a lot. This 
would be good enough for the purpose. IMO. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki


I would like to see Joomla 3.4.6  and Drupal 8.0 included in this test.




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Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0.0 release

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On 23/11/2015 21:10, Anatol Belski wrote:

Hi,

it is sad to see that the discussion went in the direction it went, but I'm 
glad to have missed that being away all day and at the end of it realizing my 
mail server messed up. Please lets get the tone down and discuss factually!

I would like to turn back to the point I was depicting in my first mail - the 
current stuff destined (including the bug fix for the sym table issue ofc) into 
the 7.NEXT looks pretty much like a set of fixes for a patch version. It is 
enough to go through the NEWS of 5.5 or 5.6 and compare to realize that. In 
aforementioned NEWS files, several bugs can be evaluated even as more critical 
as the subject caused the discussion. An accusation that the intention to 
deliver this as GA has the purpose of something bad has therefore just no 
objective base. In opposite - looking like a patch release is a testimony that 
7.0 is ripe enough to enter the routine life cycle.

Today, we have a set of patches that can deliver a stable 7.0.0 to the today's 
knowledge (remember also 5.x NEWS files in conjunction with this). I probably 
just repeat what I was telling - any known app compatible with 7.0.0 today has 
the tests green today.

To comply with the above and the definition of stable. Now, with
7.0.0. The gap between 5 and 7 is big, the number of
ported apps is small, same with the number of developers using it. How
do we get the wheel to spin? Please think strategically. How do we get the 
7.0.0 GA to have the gap to be the same as between some adjacent PHP5 minor 
releases?

Short - one can delay. There is a group of people who wants it to be done. What 
does that mean? That means, less usage, less testing, slower bug discovery. 
Even shorter - one can release. What does that mean? That means that we are on 
the track, more apps are getting ported, more people use it, more bugs we fix - 
we are stable.

Just to remind - the RC7 was caused but the exact reason that it were 
impossible and extremely bad to deliver an untested lot of various and 
partially bad issues. And that was suitable. That's why also other two weeks 
was taken. It is quite pointless to have a one week RC, because the feedback on 
that is negligible and consequently no real bugs are catched. It doesn't comply 
with the expressed intention to validate the bug fix. Now, it is of course the 
matter of the definition, but issuing one more RC for the bugs that are don't 
even stand near the cause of the RC7 doesn't sound like an appropriate action. 
Either the bugs are heavy weight and  the fixes need to be properly tested, or 
they are not. Except one turns back to the thesis that there should be no bugs.

So in the end, a solution is wanted. I don't think any opinion is allowed to be 
ignored for such a topic. So options

a) release on 26th including all known bug fixes
b) do RC8, assume there are no bugs, so target 10th for RTM
c) do RC8, release on 3rd, expect there are no bugs come in
d) continue issuing release candidates till it's stable enough (needs 
definition of stable and probably an RFC)

I would really ask to reach a consent on either a) or c). IMO, the options b) 
and d) are the direct road to curbing 7.0.0.  There is no hurry to release just 
to release, but it is definitely harmful to slow down the rise.

Thanks

Anatol




when is it available from Windows binaries download site?  It still says 
this:


7 has no release 


http://windows.php.net/download/




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Re: [PHP-DEV] Benchmark Results for PHP Master 2015-09-09

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On 09/09/2015 13:39, lp_benchmark_robot wrote:

Results for project php-src-nightly, build date 2015-09-09 05:00:00+03:00
commit: 7c8798834aefe4d4071eb66020e7dfa47111e343
revision_date:  2015-09-09 03:58:37+02:00
environment:Haswell-EP
cpu:Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz 2x18 cores, stepping 
2, LLC 45 MB
mem:128 GB
os: CentOS 7.1
kernel: Linux 3.10.0-229.4.2.el7.x86_64

Baseline results were generated using release php-7.0.0beta3, with hash 
1674bd9b151ff389fb8c9fc223bc6aafdd49ff2c from 2015-08-05 04:56:40+00:00

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:-)Wordpress 4.2.2 cgi -T1 php opc=on  0.14%  1.65% 
 2.00%
:-)Drupal 7.36 cgi -T1 php opc=on  0.32%  0.82% 
 1.30%
:-)MediaWiki 1.23.9 cgi -T5000 php opc=on  0.23%  0.41% 
 2.48%
:-)  bench.php cgi -T1 php opc=on  0.37%  1.26% 
 3.10%
:-|micro_bench.php cgi -T1 php opc=on  0.04%  0.56% 
-0.46%
:-) mandelbrot.php cgi -T1 php opc=on  0.43%  1.22% 
-0.33%
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Why nothing for Joomla? Joomla is slowly becoming the industry standard 
CMS package, only second to Wordpress.  The latest version is 3.4.4 
released yesterday.







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Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.6.12 is available

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This is good news but it is also bad news because I will need to find 
binaries for VC9 to run on Apache 2.2.31.  Not sure if ApacheLounge will 
release this as they did for 5.6.10/11.  It looks like I may need to 
recompile myself to get these working on my server.


Thanks anyway and will run it on Apache 2.4.16 as it can run quite easily.

On 07/08/2015 22:52, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:

Hello!

The PHP development team announces the immediate availability of PHP 5.6.12.
Twelve security-related issues in PHP were fixed in this release. All PHP
5.6 users are encouraged to upgrade to this version.

For source downloads of PHP 5.6.12 please visit our downloads page:
http://www.php.net/downloads.php

  Windows binaries can be found on http://windows.php.net/download/.

The list of changes is recorded in the ChangeLog:
http://www.php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.6.12

To verify the downloads, you can use the following information:

php-5.6.12.tar.bz2
SHA256 hash:
6f27104272af7b2a996f85e4100fac627630fbdaf39d7bd263f16cf529c8853a
PGP signature:
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Version: GnuPG v1

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php-5.6.12.tar.gz
SHA256 hash:
7799b42606c1770d1ad90bfc7521d2b6c294c4c27dcf1a206dee562533b4f984
PGP signature:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Gifts and Handicrafts

[Good Guy]

On 25/01/2015 01:11, Prosperity Crafts wrote:
 spam deleted

Do you use php in your development projects and have you got any 
questions or suggestions for php development?


If the answer is no then you are clearly in the wrong newsgroups.

Good bye.

[PHP-DEV] PHP books Recommendations please!!

[Good Guy]

I consider myself to be a newbie and wish to learn PHP insiode out.  Do 
you expert guys have any recommendations for me of books I should 
consider for my book shelf?


I have identified these books but not sure if they will give me enouigh 
knowledge to manipulate PHP themes and templates for Wordpress, Joomla 
and Drupal.


a 
href=http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0956895646/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE;Robin 
Nixon's PHP Crash Course [Paperback]/a

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a 
href=http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1449319262/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8amp;smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE;Learning 
PHP, MySQL, JavaScript, and CSS: A Step-by-Step Guide to Creating 
Dynamic Websites [Paperback]

/a


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Re: [PHP-DEV] Change of email address

[Good Guy]

On 22/07/2012 15:40, Andrew Faulds wrote:

  Hi there,

My old email address was ajf...@googlemail.com, I am now using a...@ajf.me.

I'm not sure I need to point this out, but just in case it matters.

Thanks.




It matters only if you mind receiving duplicates of all postings on 
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