Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Voting RFC votes closed

2011-06-29 Thread Sean Coates
*BUMP*

It would be really helpful if we could find consensus on this… I feel like the 
RFC process is stalled until these questions are answered.

S

On 2011-06-27, at 9:06 PM, Sean Coates wrote:
 The RFC was accepted.
 
 Ok; so is this official now, or does it need to be ratified somehow?
 
 If I clean up my RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/objectarrayliterals) and put 
 it to vote, are these now the rules that will be followed?
 
 Since I didn't use [RFC] in the original email to internals, do I need to 
 start from the start?


--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Voting RFC votes closed

2011-06-29 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Sean,

In any case I would do it anyway.

Whether it can make it to 5.4 or not is another question and I can't
give you an answer. But doing it anyway will finally clear this point.
We have to re do the short array syntax as well.

From my side it will be a -1 as I really don't think having json
syntax is a good thing. For the object, why not, but I would love to
have a way to do it for all kind of classes, not only stdclass :) But
that should be another thread :)

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Sean Coates s...@seancoates.com wrote:
 *BUMP*

 It would be really helpful if we could find consensus on this… I feel like 
 the RFC process is stalled until these questions are answered.

 S

 On 2011-06-27, at 9:06 PM, Sean Coates wrote:
 The RFC was accepted.

 Ok; so is this official now, or does it need to be ratified somehow?

 If I clean up my RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/objectarrayliterals) and put 
 it to vote, are these now the rules that will be followed?

 Since I didn't use [RFC] in the original email to internals, do I need to 
 start from the start?


 --
 PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
 To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php





-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Voting RFC votes closed

2011-06-29 Thread Paul Dragoonis
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
 hi Sean,

 In any case I would do it anyway.

 Whether it can make it to 5.4 or not is another question and I can't
 give you an answer. But doing it anyway will finally clear this point.
 We have to re do the short array syntax as well.

 From my side it will be a -1 as I really don't think having json
 syntax is a good thing. For the object, why not, but I would love to
 have a way to do it for all kind of classes, not only stdclass :) But
 that should be another thread :)

Although I like sean's RFC doc my two cents is:

We already have inline array syntax with array( .. ) wrapped around
it. I still wouldn't mind the [ ... ] syntax.

For stdclass objects we have nothing like this, and would be happy to
see the object literals idea pushed forward even if the array one is
rejected. The wrapper syntax proposed by sean is { ... } just like JS,
however to be consistent with array() I wouldn't mind seeing $o =
object(  ) just like $a = array( ... )

Overall, I'm with sean, but wanted to give my opinion on what we
already have and to push the idea of object(...)

Thanks,
Paul Dragoonis.


 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Sean Coates s...@seancoates.com wrote:
 *BUMP*

 It would be really helpful if we could find consensus on this… I feel like 
 the RFC process is stalled until these questions are answered.

 S

 On 2011-06-27, at 9:06 PM, Sean Coates wrote:
 The RFC was accepted.

 Ok; so is this official now, or does it need to be ratified somehow?

 If I clean up my RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/objectarrayliterals) and put 
 it to vote, are these now the rules that will be followed?

 Since I didn't use [RFC] in the original email to internals, do I need to 
 start from the start?


 --
 PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
 To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php





 --
 Pierre

 @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org

 --
 PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
 To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Voting RFC votes closed

2011-06-29 Thread David Soria Parra
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 11:15 -0400, Sean Coates wrote:
 *BUMP*
 
 It would be really helpful if we could find consensus on this… I feel like 
 the RFC process is stalled until these questions are answered.

I'm not the one who decides this. My personal opinion is that the rules
do not apply for RFCs older than the voting and releaseprocess RFC. 
When the RFC was written and proposed the voting RFC was not accepted
and therefore you might have written the RFCs with the intention of
following a different way to get it accepted. We cannot apply approved
RFCs to older RFCs. This is similar to laws (although RFCs are not laws
or anything like that at all).

Long story short: you can go on with the RFC the way you want, you don't
have to stick to the voting RFC, but I would rather recommend to do it
anyway. I personally don't have a problem with not sending the RFC mail
again to internals.

Just my 50ct

 S
 
 On 2011-06-27, at 9:06 PM, Sean Coates wrote:
  The RFC was accepted.
  
  Ok; so is this official now, or does it need to be ratified somehow?
  
  If I clean up my RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/objectarrayliterals) and put 
  it to vote, are these now the rules that will be followed?
  
  Since I didn't use [RFC] in the original email to internals, do I need to 
  start from the start?
 



-- 
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



[PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Voting RFC votes closed

2011-06-27 Thread David Soria Parra
Hi,

the voting for the Voting RFC is closed.

Results can be found here:

https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting/vote

The RFC was accepted.

David

-- 
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php



Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Voting RFC votes closed

2011-06-27 Thread Sean Coates
 The RFC was accepted.

Ok; so is this official now, or does it need to be ratified somehow?

If I clean up my RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/objectarrayliterals) and put it 
to vote, are these now the rules that will be followed?

Since I didn't use [RFC] in the original email to internals, do I need to 
start from the start?

S
--
PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List
To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php